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Great device but for some reason after installing BT Tools and SPB GPRS Monitor the turn off after so many minutes fails to work.
The setting are correct and I've even used the same settings for both the BT Tools battery profiles but it doesn't work. The backlight goes off just like it should but the unit never powers down. As a result I'm unwittingly chewing through battery power unless I manually press the power button.
Has anyone ever experienced this? If so do you know why? Many thanks in advance.
Update: I have since removed BT Tools and the auto-power off is functioning properly again. Any and all advice will be appreciated.
mmm maybe this is the same problem i am having?
I get messages SMS at 6am every morning (scheduled from work) most mornings when I pick my phone up, it is off and the message is there, some mornings even though when I went to bed the battery was full the phone is dead (backup battery and all) I presume the phone is waking up when the SMS comes in and not shutting down so the battery runs completely dead. Although the blue light on the top of the phone is falshing....
I also run BT Tools and will try uninstalling it and waiting a week or two to see if the problem goes away. It doesn't happen every day by the way it seems to happen maybe every 10 days or so......
OHHH BTW I don't have GPRS Monitor installed, just BT Tools!
You dont put it on charge overnight?
I do, but I find that if I leave it on the entire day I only get 3.5 hours of use out of it and then it needs to re-charge. So it needs to turn off when idle.
cruisin-thru said:
You dont put it on charge overnight?
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I do sometimes but not always especially if it is already 100% (or close to it), it is still an issue IMHO, having to leave the phone plugged in when fully charged isn't a perfect solution and generally I thought not the best for the battery in the long term!!!!
Besides the same thing could happen during the day, if you dont hear the SMS come in and the phone is in the case clipped to your belt and its switched on for an hour, when it need not be on at all!!!!
Don't get me wrong I love the functionality BT Tools provides, it is a fantastic program, I would just like to know how common this problem is? I will also try and contact the author and see if they know of this problem?
Hardest part is that it doesn't happen every time, only sometimes, just makes it harder for the author to track down the cause, from personal experience I hate tracking down these sorts of problems!!!
I think I've discovered a bug on the X that's causing battery drain.
I installed Spare Parts and saw my phone had been unplugged for about 12 hours and that my phone was been Running (not sleeping) for 100% of that time.
After being methodical and getting data points after opening various programs, I determined that after I opened any program that accessed the GPS, the phone no longer would go into sleep mode.
To get the phone to start sleeping again, all I have to do is toggle GPS off and then back on again.
It's completely reproducible every time on my phone.
Now, I don't know what kind of effect this will have on battery life, but seems like it probably would have some effect.
If others can test this and see if it affect you at all, it'd be helpful to see if there's a potential major software bug here or if it's just something with my phone.
Easiest way to test is to start with a fresh reboot with GPS toggle on, install Spare Parts, plug in the phone for a second (to reset the counters), let it sit sleeping for a few minutes, then read the Running % in Spare Parts. Should be pretty low. Plug in the phone to reset the counters again. Then start Google Maps or any other program that will activate your GPS. Close that program and then let the phone sit idle for a few minutes. Check Spare Parts running time again and, for me, it's pegged at 100%.
It stays like that until I toggle the GPS off or reboot the phone.
Very curious to see if others get the same results.
lexluthor said:
I think I've discovered a bug on the X that's causing battery drain.
I installed Spare Parts and saw my phone had been unplugged for about 12 hours and that my phone was been Running (not sleeping) for 100% of that time.
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I'm not trying to flame... but, after 12 hours your phone was unplugged, and still working... battery drain doesn't seem like a huge issue for me based on this information.
I would recommend an app called Tasker. I use it to turn gps off when it's not in use. I open google maps, gps starts. I close maps, gps off. I put my phone into the car mount, bluetooth starts, gps on, pandora on. unplug it, then everything off. I can have the cell radio off at night, but come on every 30 minutes to check for sms, email or whatever. I have Wifi turn on automatically when I get home, based on gps of course, and when I get out of the car, gps turns off and wifi turns on.
It saves a ton of battery for me, and might be something you'd appreciate. I have my phone running on performance mode all the time, and it still lasts all day and has 30+% to spare when I go to sleep. I'm a heavy user. almost 4GB of data this month with no tether.
That's not really the point.
The point is that there's potentially a bug with the phone that's not allowing the phone to go into sleep mode.
Seems like that might be a pretty important thing.
Point blank, the Droid X is one of the only Androids who last more than on day on the same charge! And what you all don't know is that if you use the blk taskbar and services.jar V.8 from teenfaces you will literally double or triple your life!
I have been unplugged for about 7 hrs and still have a sturdy 70%. All this with a normal discharge rate of about 5% every hour! That'd not bad! But then you have ATK set to aggressive... then the batt manager set to smart then cache mate running at full blast clearing caches every half hour. Plus the apps are killed and shut down when te screen ia off! So technically the X is dead till you power it up!
Take a look... I promise many will agree, that is if they did it right and are using V8.
Sent from my DROIDX via Telepathic DLNA.
What in the world is services.jar V.8 from teenfaces?
Ok, so then both of you are saying that the fact that the phone doesn't ever go to sleep once the GPS has been activated (even after the program that did so exists), isn't an issue?
Seems to me that you can only further improve battery life by having the phone sleep when it's not being used.
But who am I to argue I guess.
Seems like you dint understand my previous post. There is mod to change the task bar and shade. Like V8 is the latest with the services.jar replacment. Now how this affected my batt life i don't know, but, it did.
Now i see a lil longer batt life than with the original items.
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this post is hilarious.
homeboy is trying to get bug testers, and people are talking about how to change the color of their taskbar : /
ixobelle said:
this post is hilarious.
homeboy is trying to get bug testers, and people are talking about how to change the color of their taskbar : /
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Lol yea. Im gonna head home and try what ur saying. I use tasker for turning wifi on and off for maps and the new google places thing (because most of the time im in buildings) but maybe i should use it for gps too. My friend with the evo has his turned off all the time he says its a huge battery drainer. I say how could that be if it only runs when the icon is up. But this might just explain that as well.
Also other logging programs might keep it awak but this one ur suggesting doesn't i take it. Good to keep in mind. Will update later today
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Sorry, I guess I'm lost/confused.
No one really has a concern that this is a potential system problem that's causing excess battery drain?
I do we still don't have an extended battery im very curious to what we can do with the battery life. If this is true id imgine tasker is the way we would go around fixing it. But went we getting 2.2 next week? Maybe that will fix it. Like i said when i get home im going to try what u said when i get home
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Just noticed something, I formated my phone just today. (for some reason i had to activate again. is that normal never had to do that with my WM phone when i would put roms on it and stuff)
During setup it asked if i wanted to share anymous location info to google, which i know the fist time i said yes (actually maybe the guy at verizon said yes for me) in any case it says under it something "will anonymously collect your location data even if a location app isn't running"
which could explain why it stays on when the gps is on
if you can go into your system settings and it's on for you try turning it off and see if then leaving the gps switched on will still keep the phone on.
mavermc said:
Just noticed something, I formated my phone just today. (for some reason i had to activate again. is that normal never had to do that with my WM phone when i would put roms on it and stuff)
During setup it asked if i wanted to share anymous location info to google, which i know the fist time i said yes (actually maybe the guy at verizon said yes for me) in any case it says under it something "will anonymously collect your location data even if a location app isn't running"
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I think that's the option in settings->privacy, which I turned off the other day, so I don't think that's it.
Good find. Seeing the same thing. Repeated your test, and yep, system stays on till gps is bounced.
Certainly doesn't look right. Is it that once satellite fix is established, it's maintained (even if not used)? And on GPS on/off, the fix is lost and the system forgets about GPS till it's actually called?
Next step would be to see how it affects power consumption. Will try to run some more tests later in the day.
Is there an easy way to test power drain? it'll be very interesting to see what effect this is really having.
lexluthor said:
Is there an easy way to test power drain? it'll be very interesting to see what effect this is really having.
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Unfortunately with the Droid X only showing battery power in 10%, it's not easy to discern small differences without waiting for hours.
I wonder if looking at the voltage would offer more precision. But, not sure how reliable that is. After all, if it was, why wouldn't the 3rd party battery meters use that to show more precise % readings.
exempli_gratia said:
Unfortunately with the Droid X only showing battery power in 10%, it's not easy to discern small differences without waiting for hours.
I wonder if looking at the voltage would offer more precision. But, not sure how reliable that is. After all, if it was, why wouldn't the 3rd party battery meters use that to show more precise % readings.
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You'd actually have to write an event for every single percent in the Android system for anything to detect the battery much more accurately and Motorola is too lazy to do that. Its only gonna show every 10% because thats what Android was programmed to show.
just an update, i said no to google doing it's data mining off my gps. but then i found in location, when i check "use wifi" it asked me again. My guess is thats how they know where you are when you turn on wifi, because if you want that feature you also have to be used in mining data of where the wifipoints are physically located.
So maybe that has something to do with it.
Saw this on Android Central Yesterday.
I can confirm it, when used with fancy widget. When standard weather app is used, no major power drain. Fancy widget seems to pin the GPS and run it hard the entire time.
hijackerjack said:
You'd actually have to write an event for every single percent in the Android system for anything to detect the battery much more accurately and Motorola is too lazy to do that. Its only gonna show every 10% because thats what Android was programmed to show.
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I would think that if Android had 1% events some app would take advantage of it (there are certainly plenty of battery monitors in Market). But I don't know of any that show anything other than 10%. The HTC phones do 1%, and the battery widgets on HTC phones show likewise. Must be a Motorola implementation limitation.
Battery won't charge past 88%. How do I recalibrate it?
goodintentions said:
Battery won't charge past 88%. How do I recalibrate it?
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I am sure there are other ways, but if you are running CWM you can try booting into recovery and clearing the battery cache.
wiping cwm bat stats doesnt do anything. Still cant charge beyond 88%. Should I exchange for another one?
goodintentions said:
wiping cwm bat stats doesnt do anything. Still cant charge beyond 88%. Should I exchange for another one?
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If I could I would - have not had any problems of this nature myself, you are (I think) the first or second person here on XDA to report this - since you just purchased it perhaps a exchange would be a easy fix
goodintentions said:
wiping cwm bat stats doesnt do anything. Still cant charge beyond 88%. Should I exchange for another one?
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Are you charging with the tablet turned on? If so, I've had a similar situation where it wouldn't charge past 92% while plugged in. I just ran it down to almost no battery, shut the tablet off, charged it up while I slept, and all was well again,
My left side is creaking anyway. So i will exchange tomorrow.
how come there is not a 'never' setting for when screen turns off? I cant keep it on to drain battery.
goodintentions said:
how come there is not a 'never' setting for when screen turns off? I cant keep it on to drain battery.
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There may be other ways to do it, but look for extended controls in the market. It has an option for 'screen always on'
Hope that helps
vanisleguy1976 said:
There may be other ways to do it, but look for extended controls in the market. It has an option for 'screen always on'
Hope that helps
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You can use GPS Test to keep the screen on. Found in market.
I use screebl. I love it because I set it to turn off my screen in 5 seconds when the tablet is flat on it's back and to never turn off then I have it on my lap.
That way I can download or do anything and it won't turn off on me and I don't have to manually lock it if I set a long timeout for the screen and I just place it on my desk and do something else.
bpivk said:
I use screebl. I love it because I set it to turn off my screen in 5 seconds when the tablet is flat on it's back and to never turn off then I have it on my lap.
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Thank you so much for telling me about this app.
I just got a new iconia. I actually had a choice to exchange for either another iconia and a transformer. After weighing the options, I went for the iconia. The ports just can't be beat. I've been incorporating the gtab in to my work. I am now going to incorporate the iconia into my work. The full usb and hdmi just can't be beat.
About the new iconia that I got, wow. Very solidly built. No creaks at all. Testing out the battery now. I'm going to let it run out of battery from 36% that came with it. Then I'm going to charge it all the way up. Hopefully, this one will go to 100%.
Playing around with it, I can already tell this runs smoother than the one I traded in. I guess the other one just had hardware problems.
Anyway, I am happy that I was able to find one within 10 minute driving distance. I called around this morning and almost every place is out of iconias. Then I called this place 10 minutes away and they had 1 more in stock.
Anyway, I'm happy with the end result.
I got the orb recently and my plan was to use my phone as a bedside alarm clock with it. However, when I have the phone on "desk clock" mode while on the charger, the battery slowly drains overnight by around 1-2% every half hour instead of going up. When the screen is off, it seems to charge fine. Is the orb just really that slow at charging? It kind of defeats the purpose if it can't keep a steady charge with the screen on as I like be able to just glance at the time while in bed instead of having to turn on the screen first.
well the orb wont charge as fast as wall charger
but if it doesnt provide enough mA to charge while screen on i guess there is something wrong. however i dont have the orb, so cant help you any further.
It should still charge with the screen on. Mine will gain 1-2% every 10mins with the deskclock night clock on. Are you using a case?
username8611 said:
It should still charge with the screen on. Mine will gain 1-2% every 10mins with the deskclock night clock on. Are you using a case?
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No case at all. I am using the power adapter that came with it too, because i read using a different one caused problems too. I am however using visceralpsyche's gamma color settings from franco's thread which require you to have your brightness at 50%, but I should still be able to get a positive charge I would think.
traybourne said:
No case at all. I am using the power adapter that came with it too, because i read using a different one caused problems too. I am however using visceralpsyche's gamma color settings from franco's thread which require you to have your brightness at 50%, but I should still be able to get a positive charge I would think.
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i think you definitely still should. I know that if you place the phone on it centered near the bottom half (if you do it vertically, the phone will be about 1/2 - 3/4" from the table or whatever surface the orb is on), thats the optimal part of the phone to have touching it. If it's still not working, I'm guessing something isn't quite right with it.
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i think you definitely still should. I know that if you place the phone on it centered near the bottom half (if you do it vertically, the phone will be about 1/2 - 3/4" from the table or whatever surface the orb is on), thats the optimal part of the phone to have touching it. If it's still not working, I'm guessing something isn't quite right with it.
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I've tried a few positions all with the same results. I did notice though that with the first 20 minutes of charging, it will go up like 3-4% like it should, but afterwards it just goes on a slow and steady decline. I guess I'll contact Google about it, and I already had to sell my DT-910 because of the problems with that charger :/
I'm not sure if my problem is with OxygenOS or Nougat, but I've scoured the internet for months and haven't found an answer
I have two problems that I think are linked to doze mode on my device, and they both occur under the same conditions. First is my alarm clock (Alarm Clock Xtreme) doesn't work in the morning, and second is my Samsung Gear Fit 2 needs manually reconnected each morning. And through troubleshooting I've determined the problem occurs under rather unique conditions. The problem ONLY occurs when my phone is plugged in and sits overnight (so fully charged sometime during the night). Which is most nights, because I want a full battery in the morning.
But if I happen to go to bed and leave the phone unplugged, the alarm clock WORKS in the morning and the smart watch stays connected all night. So unplugged overnight, no problems. Plugged in, alarm clock won't work and Bluetooth connection to smart watch is dropped.
I haven't been able to find an answer in the 3 months I've had my OnePlus 5. Any thoughts?
Specs: OnePlus 5, Oxygen OS 4.5.10, Nougat 7.1.1.
I can also move this post elsewhere if there is a more appropriate area of the forum for this question. But I don't have this problem with my old device.
You can try disabling battery optimization for selected apps.
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You can try disabling battery optimization for selected apps.
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Thanks, but I already tried that. It doesn't work.
It's probably the apps man if you think about it. Try using a different application and report back.
Dchoi229 said:
It's probably the apps man if you think about it. Try using a different application and report back.
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I actually had another alarm clock app before, that was doing the same thing. And I don't really have an alternate application for the watch.
I've researched this fairly extensively and have only been able to grasp small nuggets of insight. I did find one source on xda (but I can't remember where I saw it) that talked about doze mode acting funny when the phone is plugged in to charge. Basically an inability to wake from doze under certain circumstances.
Liam1694u said:
I actually had another alarm clock app before, that was doing the same thing. And I don't really have an alternate application for the watch.
I've researched this fairly extensively and have only been able to grasp small nuggets of insight. I did find one source on xda (but I can't remember where I saw it) that talked about doze mode acting funny when the phone is plugged in to charge. Basically an inability to wake from doze under certain circumstances.
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You can always enable Developer Options and choose the option for the screen to stay awake while charging which should also keep your phone awake. You can also disable Doze completely in Developer Options.
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You can always enable Developer Options and choose the option for the screen to stay awake while charging which should also keep your phone awake. You can also disable Doze completely in Developer Options.
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Thanks! I don't want to disable doze, but I might try that other one. My other quick fix I juts thought of is to use a timer switch or smart switch to have the charger shut off after an hour. That's enough to give me a boost, but not fully charge. I tried it last night and everything worked this morning. Though my battery was only at 60%, it was better than nothing.
Liam1694u said:
Thanks! I don't want to disable doze, but I might try that other one. My other quick fix I juts thought of is to use a timer switch or smart switch to have the charger shut off after an hour. That's enough to give me a boost, but not fully charge. I tried it last night and everything worked this morning. Though my battery was only at 60%, it was better than nothing.
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It's recommended these days to keep your battery charged between 40%—80% to prolong its life and not keep the phone plugged in overnight like in the old days. I charge mine to 80% before going to bed.
If it's actually a Doze issue I don't understand why it wouldn't happen when the phone isn't plugged in. Do you have a screen saver enabled?
Fellow OP5 user here, I have the EXACT same problem.
If I leave the phone charging for long time and doze kicks in, the phone basically shuts down for all purposes until I unlock it with my pattern. Meaning, only the built in alarm (that works even with the phone turned off) will work. Any other (Timely, radio...) won't.
Now here's the kicker: sometimes the deep sleep will cause a weird bootloop, upon which the screen will indefinitely hang on the spinning logo, with the screen turned on, requiring a reboot. And of course this makes the alarm not sound.
This last bit happens at random. If I disable the screen sleeping in Dev options, the alarm will work but when I wake up the pattern input screen would be there, after all night on, which isn't really healthy for the screen.
Turning doze off makes this problem apparently disappear, but I need to investigate some more to draw conclusions. For the time being I sleep without charging, quick charge and the phone's great battery makes it unnecessary to keep it connected all night.
Another fun tidbit of this deep sleep mode: it stops USB tethering. I would have imagined a wakelock in there, but apparently there isn't.
For information : I use vanilla kernel and OOS. I have Magisk on and Gravitybox via Xposed Magisk, but other than that I have nothing particular going on.
I've been hearing that from other sources as well, about not letting it sit overnight on the charger at 100%. Which is why I think I'm gonna keep using the smart switch of my nightstand charger. The OnePlus Dash charging system works great for a quick charge anyways, so having 100% fully charged to last all day long is no longer necessary. I have a normal USB cable at my night stand, so it's a slow charge. If I set the timer to stop after an hour it at least gives me a small charge overnight, without overdoing it. And I have dash charger at work to give me the full quick 20 minute charge that puts me at 60-70%.
No I don't have a screensaver running. It is weird that the phone locks in the doze mode for the alarm and boots me off my watch's BT connection, but only when plugged in and sitting at a full charge for an extended time (haven't stayed awake all night to test just how long it has to sit). But that IS what it IS. Those have been confirmed as the only conditions in which this problem arises. I've been using the smart switch for 3 days now to keep my phone from going to and staying at 100%, and the alarm clock is working again and the watch is staying connected.
It's not that it's a big of a deal for me to have to use a work around like this. I don't mind. But I hate finding a glitch in something and not being able to truly "fix" it. Work-arounds work. But they don't actually solve the problem. This is just a gripe I have in general whenever something like this happens. It's in my nature to want things to work properly. Which is why I haven't had a non-rooted device in at least 5 years. I NEED to have the ability to fix the [email protected]$$ sh1t the software developers and phone manufacturers screw up. Of course, that's probably the number one reason xda exist. This open up the full potential of these devices, because the manufacturers are either too dumb or are financially motivated to not fix things (ahem...Samsung). Thank you everyone who chimed in with advice. I appreciate it.
It has been my experience with this phone so far that doze mode doesn't work. At all. I regularly have widgets that won't update even though I have doze turned off...
Just one of the many annoyances that has me thinking about finally rooting and getting rid of this garbage os...