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Was wondering if this was possible on our hd2s?
I like all the htc skins parts in android (dialer, text, browser, general theme) but want launcher pro instead on the sense home screen.
I use taskiller but the sense stuff always comes back. I did a search and found this on the evo forum. Sounds good, would it mess the phone? Or not work at all?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769525
worst case scenario is that you have to start your android build again.
no danger of bricking the phone anyway......
id try it but id want sense back after 10 mins.....
what im wondering is why dont you just run a non sense android build?
was trying to get it working, but unsure how to run it? its a zip file which contains loads of other files that i cant run?
I use ADW launcher with MDJ Froyo 1.1 Matt with no problems as my default launcher and that is a sense build, it actualy runs a little smoother in my opinion.
I use Launcher Pro on top of Sense (see my build and pic below). It is fantastic. I recommend purchasing the full, as well as purchasing Beautiful Widgets (both from the market).
Fantastic custom screen and faster movement.
woks well, but with froyo I am always fighting for a bit of ram. If froyo is your type of build then launcher pro is recommended. You can still launch the radio via programs
Install your launcher of choice from the market/apk and when you click the home button you'll get a pop-up asking which one you'd like to use (sense/your other launcher). click the box saying "always use this choice" and select your launcher. Sense will close, your launcher will open and that's it, done.
You can change your option later if you regret it in your system settings.
So, what your saying is that it doesnt matter? Its just when using taskiller i see the services restarting all the time...
I'm not saying it won't stop the services from starting all the time (there's probably a way round that as well, although I've not bothered looking) but the services shouldn't use much ram anyway, and they're responsible for other background tasks, not just the graphical front end.
Yeah, I dont want to stop it all...just certain parts. Im unsure how to run the file which i posted up on the original post...any ideas? I would like to try it as it sounds ideal (you might like the sound of it yourself)
I don't think I would run that file with these builds. Go download a Nexus build if you really want no Sense. Otherwise, some files run, but take so little space it is incidental.
For example HTC Sense takes a several MB's when running as your home screen. Using Launcher Pro as default home causes that number to drop to 48kb...almost nothing.
And I would get Home Switcher from the market in case you change your mind later or need to access Sense.
So...just to confirm I cannot get rid of the sense launcher...but keep:
taskbar
dialer
skinned browser
general theme throughout
It it honestly just me that wants this haha!
fracmo2000 said:
So...just to confirm I cannot get rid of the sense launcher...but keep:
taskbar
dialer
skinned browser
general theme throughout
It it honestly just me that wants this haha!
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I would be nice to know how to flash that file uploaded in the evo forum..
Anyone knows how to dit it and ill give it a try
I tried, but dont know how...can any expert look at my original post and see?
Other parts of the xda forum ask for this...but here im told to use either sense or froyo...i want the best of both.
Many people like a 200dpi UI for android.
Some NAND builds even have 200dpi by default.
The only problem with it is that some apps and games are sqauled totally wrong with 200dpi.
They are build for an screen with 240dpi. Thats why im back on 240dpi but i dont really want to.
So how to solve that?
Thought something out and maybe its possible or maybe not but wanna ask you guys.
What if we can make a program that will put the screen back to 240dpi when you start an app or game, automaticly.
In the program you can select what apps/games need it and when you start it up the program changes from 200dpi to 240dpi.
Now i learned that you must restart your device to let the change work.
So what if the program also remembers your PIN-Code and enters it automaticly and start up the app/game.
And when you close the app/game the program changes back to 200dpi.
Something like that. Is it even possible to make a program like this or something?
I searched the forums but couldnt found a real good solution for this problem so maybe this is a solution if someone makes this program
This is actually a pretty good idea, I love a lower density and it's a shame some apps don't scale well.
Unfortunately, for obvious security reasons no app has access to your SIM input. Can't read it, can't input it. I think it should be possible to make the lcd density change go in effect without a real reboot though, just no clue how...
Well exactly, maybe a reboot isnt needed but they dont know how yet . Gope some devs will see this
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I am eagerly awaiting my a500, which is being shipped right now.
In the mean time, I'd like to know what kind of optimizations you would suggest to get the best performance and utility from the tablet, so that when I do get it i'm all ready to go.
I have an android phone, and I know a big thing for it, was replacing the launcher with ADW, Launcher Pro, or Zeam. How is the default launcher on the a500? Is there a better alternative?
Secondly, do the available roms provide noticeably better performance? I'll probably be rooting for CIFS support if DLNA doesn't work out anyways, so it'd be nice to know if the roms are worth it.
Are there any settings I should change from default that would make the performance better? Or anything else you suggest?
Thanks for all your help
Some of the roms do offer performance improvements.. Thou usually break something.. unless they are the near stock rooted themed ones..
same with overclocking each kernel offers different features you will have to find what suits your needs..
the biggest issue with custom roms kernels is trade off there is always something you will be trading.. WITH Many of them its battery life and app compatibility.Th biggest two most important things for me . well 3 really.. all require you to root your tablet
1 ad-hoc network support (just a single file to replace to allow this)
2 GPS.. There is a gps fix that allows much better sat locks.
3 Backup... Titanium backup needs root not to mention full backup thru CWM RECOVERY.. aCER Recovery installer from market can do this for you .
So other than rooting the device, you don't do anything else for performance gains?
you can put a custom kernel, the one i use allows overclocking up to 1.64GHz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170319
That looks pretty awesome to me, bwassef.
I'd definitely use it just for the CIFS support, but its good to know OC is supported if I feel the need.
Are there any other things I could do, or that are necessary besides kernels & roms?
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That looks pretty awesome to me, bwassef.
I'd definitely use it just for the CIFS support, but its good to know OC is supported if I feel the need.
Are there any other things I could do, or that are necessary besides kernels & roms?
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DON'T CHANGE A THING , not for several weeks. erica_renee gave that advice before and it's the best you can follow. You need to see how it's suppose to work and get a baseline so you know how it should work. Get all your applications running and working first then see what you'd like to change that it doesn't allow you to do. Then look at other ROM's.
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DON'T CHANGE A THING , not for several weeks. erica_renee gave that advice before and it's the best you can follow. You need to see how it's suppose to work and get a baseline so you know how it should work. Get all your applications running and working first then see what you'd like to change that it doesn't allow you to do. Then look at other ROM's.
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The not changing a thing of course goes without saying. even thou yes i guess it does need to be spoken always.. If its not broken dont fix . Root and modify your device only if it does not suit your needs stock..
im Blonde i cant remember to type everything.. Giggles.
Of course, if I can get along just fine on 100% stock, I'll do that. However chances are I will need to route for CIFS support if the DLNA app doesn't work well enough.
I was actually hoping for more suggestions that don't require rooting. Like alternative launchers, or settings on the device.
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Of course, if I can get along just fine on 100% stock, I'll do that. However chances are I will need to route for CIFS support if the DLNA app doesn't work well enough.
I was actually hoping for more suggestions that don't require rooting. Like alternative launchers, or settings on the device.
List of my favorite apps.
1 .Thumbs keyboard
2.Titanium backup. (Need root)
3.autodesk sketchpad.
4.co-pilot. GPS app that does not need data service area.
5.Paltalk video program..(social video chat)
6.office program. I have Polaris .quicknoffice and a couple otherness.
7.splashtop HD. (To acess my desktop from anywhere)
8.root explorer. (Does not have to have root but recommended)
Also astro. And file manager he. Es file manager are nice.
9.Yahoo messenger and the video plugin.
10. Google voice. Awesome so I dont have to give out my real phone number.
11.beautiful Widgets. I love there clock and weather add ons.
I could go on but will stop here
One more I use alot is andcad. Awesome cad drawings app.
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I can tell you that in regards to a home launcher, ADW Launcher is great, and has awesome honeycomb integration. some (including me) notice a lag in the stock launcher and ADW takes care of that
NonRoot Performace Tweaks / Apps:
- Disable animations. (Settings/Screen/Animation).
- Set wifi to turn off when screen is off. (Settings/Wireless & Networks/Wifi Settings/Advanced)
- Turn off all unnecessary radios. (Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi)
- Set screen brightness to as low as you can or use auto broghtness.
- Use Opera Mobile instead of the stock browser. You may find one you like better, but this is the fastest one that I've found. Also, make sure to turn off Opera Turbo.
- Use File Manager HD as you as your file manager.
- MX Video player for video playback.
- Thumb Keyboard to replace the stock one.
- Stock launcher isn't bad, but I like to customize everything so I use ADW EX.
If I think of anymore I'll post em .
Thanks guys, these were the kind of tips I was hoping for.
Especially that there is value using ADW as an alternative launcher, and that there may be slight lag in using the stock launcher.
Has anyone tried the tablet loaded with widgets versus bare? Is it possible to run it with a lot of widgets without it slowing down a lot? I was also thinking of using some more minimal looking text widgets to displayed weather etc. instead of the fancy graphical ones. I'm assuming these will be lighter on resources?
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Thanks guys, these were the kind of tips I was hoping for.
Especially that there is value using ADW as an alternative launcher, and that there may be slight lag in using the stock launcher.
Has anyone tried the tablet loaded with widgets versus bare? Is it possible to run it with a lot of widgets without it slowing down a lot? I was also thinking of using some more minimal looking text widgets to displayed weather etc. instead of the fancy graphical ones. I'm assuming these will be lighter on resources?
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I've got about 10 widgets plus a LWP and im still able to play games etc. with out any lag. But I'm also rooted with many different mods and tweaks I've done, so I'm not sure how it would be on a stock OS.
So we all know our beautiful Nexus 4 has this problem when pinch to zoom, it will not do it instantly, when uu start pinching by moving your fingers apart, u have to go a certain distance, before it starts zooming, and its kind of annoying sometimes, this happens in the browsers, gallery, gmail, etc.
BUT! altought a lot of people thought it was a hardware issue, IT IS NOT! because in apps like firefox browser, quickpic gallery, whatsapp pic viewer, falcon pro picture viewer, and some others, the issue is not present, you can zoom all the way from the beginning just like other regular phone, im no expert but I assume those apps have a different coding on how the screen shoould recognize touch or something, SO since this is a SOFTWARE ISSUE and not HARDWARE ISSUE I was thinking, why havent the devs fix this already? i Mean i repeat im no expert but someone could make a mod to tweak the way the screen recognizes touch from the kernel, or put some code into a rom that does it, i dont know, the thing is that it is software solvable and it will be great if we can get that solution here from the xda community, lemme know wha you think and if u like the idea (how can you not?) help by spreading the word!
Cheers!
I agree with you, it is something really anoying. IMO it's not rom or kernel related, it's app related. Every problematic app should be recoded or something, I'm not an expert and I hope I'm wrong and someone can fix it in an easier way.
OK, so it seems to be a common thing here where people are wanting to HIDE the navigation buttons as much as possible, but I'm the other way around - I want them on my screen at all times unless there's an actually good reason to hide them.
Some apps, like MX Player Pro, have an option to hide or show the navigation bar - status bar gets hidden by default, as the phone would be in landscape mode for watching videos.
Others do not. Thinking about apps like Netflix, Vudu and such... and the fact that the S8's screen is wider than 16:9, I really don't see a good reason to disable the navigation buttons, except for them possibly being distracting (which they aren't, not to me)
My understanding is that even using the adb commands found in other threads on XDA, you can set it to hide the navigation bar and/or status bar for any apps you want, but NOT the reverse. I tried opening Super Mario Run (that's another one that uses immersive mode, and I'm not quite sure WHY), opening adb shell while it was going, and no matter what command I ran the bar would not show back up. It's like apps can overwrite the system-wide immersive mode preset.
Is there ANY way to do this short of editing the .apk files to remove immersive mode from their manifests so they can't attempt to enter it? The obvious problem with doing that is that any time there's a Play Store update I'd have to redo the modification, and reinstall it from scratch because of .apk signatures.
Based on how MX Player works, and how some apps start immersive and then go back to normal (Pokémon GO seems to use immersive mode for the Niantic logo, but then returns to normal right after that), I'm assuming it's an option inside the app that can be toggled on and off, much like full-screen videos on a PC. But like how web browsers ask if you want to allow a site to use fullscreen, I wish I could do the same to my apps.
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OK, so it seems to be a common thing here where people are wanting to HIDE the navigation buttons as much as possible, but I'm the other way around - I want them on my screen at all times unless there's an actually good reason to hide them.
Some apps, like MX Player Pro, have an option to hide or show the navigation bar - status bar gets hidden by default, as the phone would be in landscape mode for watching videos.
Others do not. Thinking about apps like Netflix, Vudu and such... and the fact that the S8's screen is wider than 16:9, I really don't see a good reason to disable the navigation buttons, except for them possibly being distracting (which they aren't, not to me)
My understanding is that even using the adb commands found in other threads on XDA, you can set it to hide the navigation bar and/or status bar for any apps you want, but NOT the reverse. I tried opening Super Mario Run (that's another one that uses immersive mode, and I'm not quite sure WHY), opening adb shell while it was going, and no matter what command I ran the bar would not show back up. It's like apps can overwrite the system-wide immersive mode preset.
Is there ANY way to do this short of editing the .apk files to remove immersive mode from their manifests so they can't attempt to enter it? The obvious problem with doing that is that any time there's a Play Store update I'd have to redo the modification, and reinstall it from scratch because of .apk signatures.
Based on how MX Player works, and how some apps start immersive and then go back to normal (Pokémon GO seems to use immersive mode for the Niantic logo, but then returns to normal right after that), I'm assuming it's an option inside the app that can be toggled on and off, much like full-screen videos on a PC. But like how web browsers ask if you want to allow a site to use fullscreen, I wish I could do the same to my apps.
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Did you find the way?
I'm looking for this too but preferably a shell command to use in tasker on a per app basis
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paolo200 said:
Did you find the way?
I'm looking for this too but preferably a shell command to use in tasker on a per app basis
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No
But given what I've read, and from experimentation, it looks like it's impossible to do this without having root.
I'm not sure *why* but unless someone can prove otherwise, it seems that the System UI can't override apps - even user-installed apps! Sorta weird if you ask me...
What I was trying to do instead was decompile the .apk and remove the function that puts the app in immersive mode. Problem is, I don't understand the smali language at all... my trials just resulted in failures to compile the app again. Bah. If anyone knows about Android app development and actually somewhat understands smali, let me know...
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No
But given what I've read, and from experimentation, it looks like it's impossible to do this without having root.
I'm not sure *why* but unless someone can prove otherwise, it seems that the System UI can't override apps - even user-installed apps! Sorta weird if you ask me...
What I was trying to do instead was decompile the .apk and remove the function that puts the app in immersive mode. Problem is, I don't understand the smali language at all... my trials just resulted in failures to compile the app again. Bah. If anyone knows about Android app development and actually somewhat understands smali, let me know...
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Ok I'll let you know. As for the knowledge I'm a beginner too... I'm trying to learn a bit about what can be done using Tasker but I haven't found anything. As you said it seems impossible to force the bars to stay visible if the app hides it. When I was on KitKat there was an Xposed module called app settings that allowed just that, among other things, but I'm on Nougat now and Xposed is not available so... We'll keep looking
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That's what I mean - you need root to do it (Xposed obviously requires root), and I don't really understand why since in theory a user app from the Play Store shouldn't be able to overwrite system settings. If it was a matter of getting the built-in camera to not be immersive or something, that's another story.
The most you can do with Tasker, really, is mess with secure_settings. I've tried this extensively, and all you can do is set the SYSTEM DEFAULT to immersive on or off - changing it to on makes it so apps not normally in immersive become immersive, but changing it to off does nothing because, well, the default is off anyway...
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That's what I mean - you need root to do it (Xposed obviously requires root), and I don't really understand why since in theory a user app from the Play Store shouldn't be able to overwrite system settings. If it was a matter of getting the built-in camera to not be immersive or something, that's another story.
The most you can do with Tasker, really, is mess with secure_settings. I've tried this extensively, and all you can do is set the SYSTEM DEFAULT to immersive on or off - changing it to on makes it so apps not normally in immersive become immersive, but changing it to off does nothing because, well, the default is off anyway...
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Hello,
I have root and I also cannot disable immersive mode. I haven't found any xposed module that allow this and App Settings prevent fulscreen also doesn't change anything. Do you know any other solution with root access?
Thanks in advance!
Borchuck said:
Hello,
I have root and I also cannot disable immersive mode. I haven't found any xposed module that allow this and App Settings prevent fulscreen also doesn't change anything. Do you know any other solution with root access?
Thanks in advance!
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Sadly, no I don't. I've still never found a solution for this, with or without root. And more and more app developers are updating their apps to support the screen ratio... Super Mario Run is now locked to "fullscreen" mode, you can't put it back into windowed compatibility mode anymore, and it takes up 100% of the screen with no room for the navbar anyway.
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Sadly, no I don't. I've still never found a solution for this, with or without root. And more and more app developers are updating their apps to support the screen ratio... Super Mario Run is now locked to "fullscreen" mode, you can't put it back into windowed compatibility mode anymore, and it takes up 100% of the screen with no room for the navbar anyway.
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That really sucks... I don't know what is all about, why it is so hard to achieve. Anyway, thanks for answer!