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HDMI Output Compatibility Testing

I updated my B60 U.S. Transformer with the Android 3.2 OTA update and decided to do some HDMI-output compatibility testing.
I used the following:
15-foot HDMI cable: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10240&cs_id=1024009&p_id=4959&seq=1&format=2
Mini-HDMI-to-HDMI adapter: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10419&cs_id=1041909&p_id=3653&seq=1&format=2
Here are my results:
Sony BRAVIA KDL-46Z4100 (1080p) - the 3.2 OTA update makes the Transformer work perfectly on this 1080p set. It changes its resolution to 1280x720, and then the BRAVIA picks up the 720p signal and displays the cloned output with no issues and no need to make any screen position adjustments on the HDTV side. No sound problems as the Transformer sends the audio output to the HDTV set speakers.
Sony BRAVIA KDL-40S300 (720p) - there is a an overscan display issue with this BRAVIA where a bit of each side is cut off on the HDTV. This BRAVIA doesn't have detailed enough controls to scale back the output display to make everything fit properly. It's not terrible, but it's not ideal looking either. No sound problems as the Transformer sends the audio output to the HDTV set speakers.
Westinghouse TX-42F430S (1080p) - the 3.2 OTA update makes the Transformer work perfectly on this 1080p set. It changes its resolution to 1280x720, and then the Westinghouse picks up the 720p signal and displays the cloned output with no issues and no need to make any screen position adjustments on the HDTV side. No sound problems as the Transformer sends the audio output to the HDTV set speakers.
Acer H233H (1080p) - the 3.2 OTA update makes the Transformer work perfectly on this 1080p LCD computer monitor. It changes its resolution to 1280x720, and then the Acer picks up the 720p signal and displays the cloned output with no issues and no need to make any screen position adjustments on the monitor side. No sound problems as the Transformer sends the audio output to the monitor's built-in speakers.
Sony VAIO VGC-RT150Y - this is actually a desktop all-in-one computer system that happens to have an HDMI input. The Transformer changes its resolution to 1280x720, and then the VAIO picks up the 720p signal and displays the cloned output centered on its 1920x1200 LCD panel. No sound problems as the Transformer sends the audio output to the computer's speakers.
I hope this is of use for some of you out there.

why would you use a hdmi cable then an adapter and instead a actual mini hdmi cable
heres what im using http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1024201&p_id=3645&seq=1&format=4#feedback
and the 15 foot version http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10242&cs_id=1024201&p_id=7649&seq=1&format=2

So glad I looked in here first. I was about to buy a micro hdmi to hdmi, had it in my cart and everything.

krispy1 said:
why would you use a hdmi cable then an adapter and instead a actual mini hdmi cable
heres what im using http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1024201&p_id=3645&seq=1&format=4#feedback
and the 15 foot version http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10242&cs_id=1024201&p_id=7649&seq=1&format=2
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I bought my 15-foot cable and the adapter some time ago before Monoprice started selling the straight cables that don't need adapters.
Anyway, I rarely connect anything with a mini- or micro-HDMI output, so it makes more sense for me to use standard HDMI (A) cables and then have adapters for when I need them.

More TV's
Thank you for this thread!
Now, are you guys going with your mini-HDMI cable to TV stores to try out HDMI-out compatibility? Thinking I could do that
I have a Samsung LE37xxx, hope it will work, would be kinky!
On another note, you may have to upgrade the TV's firmware because the newer ones (from few years back already) with USB etc. should be upgradeable...

I had a HDMI to mini HDMI adaptor that I bought off ebay however it did not work. I tried it on several different TV's and different cables and a receiver. Due to time constraints I bought a new replacement adaptor from Jaycar - tried it out and worked on two different Panasonic TV's. There were some overscan issues but I didn't have time to confirm if that was just a setting on the TV. I travel a lot for work hence the adaptor is better - don't want to carry the whole cable. If I am in a hotel with a TV with HDMI there is a good chance it will have a HDMI cable plugged into it that I can use.

[Q] Acer HDMI - special settings?

I have an A500 with the Acer stock rom on it (3.2), and I'm having problems getting the HDMI out to work. Is there a special setting somewhere that sends the screen output to HDMI? Or should it automatically appear?
I got a micro HDMI to HDMI adapter off of eBay, so I don't know if that's the cause of the problem. I know the HDMI on the TV works because my XBox works fine on it.
I would appreciate anyone's insight into this problem.

mightyorbots said:
I have an A500 with the Acer stock rom on it (3.2), and I'm having problems getting the HDMI out to work. Is there a special setting somewhere that sends the screen output to HDMI? Or should it automatically appear?
I got a micro HDMI to HDMI adapter off of eBay, so I don't know if that's the cause of the problem. I know the HDMI on the TV works because my XBox works fine on it.
I would appreciate anyone's insight into this problem.
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Have you tried turning off your tab, plugging in the HDMI cable to both your tab, and TV, then booting up tab?

It should just work as soon as it's plugged in. You'll see a notification that an HDMI display was detected or somesuch. My A500 had a loose HDMI port so it would flake out with the slightest touch. Cables are cheap, so it may be worthwhile to get another cable from a place like monoprice.com and see if that makes a difference. If not, it's either the device or TV. Maybe a friend has an Android phone with micro-HDMI you can test with?

I found plugging into tv first then connecting to tab worked best, before that I only had a blank tv screen... Seems the A500/501 needs the tv connected first, at least mine does...

mine to just works..
WELL it does on my SAMSUNG SMART TV..
ON MY LAME BUT Huge screen SANYO.. (DONT LAUGH IT WAS ON SALE) tv in the living room i have to sometimes plug the cable into the tv.. set the tv to hdmi 4.. IT WILL ONLY WORK ON PORT 4 .. then when i have black screen saying no input found or something like that i plug in the tablet.and all is well..
ALSO PAY GOOD MONEY FOR THE CABLE.. THE CHEAP TINY Connector is not equal on all cables my iconia only works on the gold plated high end cable
i use the same one as i do for my cell phone...
ACER WAS LAME BY PUTTING SUCH A SMALL PORT. there is room in that spot of this tablet for atleast a mini port if not full size I hate micro ports...

I bought a micro to standard HDMI cable (by PNY) last night at Staples and it works fine. I got 10ft for $29.00, compared to the Monster micro 4ft for $39. It worked fine at the hotel I was at on the flat panel in my room. No complaints from me.
I'm surprised at the diameter of the cable, as it is very thin. But, it works! Hellooooo Netflix!
I'm about to try it at home on my old Sony XBR...
Cheers!

I bet he's using a Westinghouse TV if I'm right for some reason the Westinghouse brand doesn't like any android hdmi out this goes for my a500 and my evo. Mine doesn't work and I have had it working with my Sanyo as everyone mentioned just by plugging it in
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adambomb_13 said:
I bet he's using a Westinghouse TV if I'm right for some reason the Westinghouse brand doesn't like any android hdmi out this goes for my a500 and my evo. Mine doesn't work and I have had it working with my Sanyo as everyone mentioned just by plugging it in
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I also had a problem of not getting my Westinghouse TV, that is only a few years old, to recognize the HDMI input from my A500. Tried everything and it didn't work, but the A500 works on my other three tvs.

I plugged my A500 into an older Sony 52", using the side-mounted HDMI input, and it 'just worked'. Mind you it freaked out momentarily when I flipped the tablet around and the screen auto-rotate kicked in, but once I oriented the tablet in it's normal "upright" (volume buttons on top) position, everything looked great.
On this same topic, I noticed that standard/full-sized HDMI to HDMI Micro cables are hard to find in the retail chain, so I bought mine (dirt cheap prices/shipping and excellent quality) from monoprice dot com.

Really? Huh. Rotation is disabled for me when i plug it into my 25" hanspree
And it 'just works' for me too
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HTC ONE OTG not supported/MHL playing up

Any info on this would be well appreciated.
Don't know if this is already covered somewhere but I can't find it. I'm well gutted about this, Just tried watching a film on HTC ONE with OTG cable and it doesn't work. I get a warning notification saying " unable to charge device, please use supported charger " Gutted. I thought this would of been covered since the one-x supported OTG when it got 4.1 update. Also, don't know if it's related but the MHL (an official HTC 1) isn't working properly either as it did on my one-x. It wil be playing fine for 20/30 seconds and then cuts off for 10 seconds then comes back on. It's does this repeatedly which makes what ever your trying to watch - unwatchable.
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It supports OTG

Haven't tried mhl, but otg works fine here.
Tried it with my memory sticks and fiio dac.
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using Tapatalk HD

Seem to be working now. Must of been the memory card adapter I tried, tried another one and ok now but still getting error notification " unable to charge device, please use the supported charger " Don't know what that's all about. Keyboard and mouse work fine with OTG, never tried them before.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Definitely something wrong with MHL.just tried again with official HTC adapter and flawless on one-x, unstable on the ONE.
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Isn't the one purportedly MHL 2.0? Maybe the adapter needs to be different...

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Isn't the one purportedly MHL 2.0? Maybe the adapter needs to be different...
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I just tried MHL on my One using the official HTC M490 adapter (NOT the M500 which I think won't work). I have no problems at all with MHL. It is stable. I don't know what difference MHL 2.0 makes, but I did notice that the phone seems to be capable of outputting something different to MHL out, vs what is on the phone screen.
For example, and I have no idea why, I seem to have a free copy of Thor on the phone under the HTC Watch application (freebie?). I found that when I choose Thor as the film, the phone screen is showing a synopsis, while the TV is showing a still frame from the movie. However, when actually playing the film, both are showing the same thing. Nevertheless it is a good indication that dual screen gaming applications may be possible for example.
Also tried the OTG using a Samsung usb adapter. No problems functionally but I can confirm the misleading error message about not being able to charge the phone. No problems accessing the USB storage though and Gallery automatically will find pictures on an externally mounted SD card.

HTC M500 adapter has 12 pins and was the adapter for HTC tablets (Flyer and Jetstream). The majority of connectors use 5 pins, except Samsung (SIII and Note 2) that uses 11 pin, which allows for MHL and USB OTG simultaneously.
Regarding MHL 2.0, it has the ability to pass 1080p video at 60Hz (up from 30Hz of MHL 1st generation) and charge up to twice as fast. Samsung SIV has it, but I haven't find anything official that shows HTC One also has it, or for the need of a different adapter.

All the MHL adaptors i've seen (mine included- Cablesson) have a micro USB slot so you plug in your charger* to that, then the device to your phone, and it charges as it outputs.
Are you all doing that, or trying to output with no charger attached.
*Mains charger

techguyone said:
All the MHL adaptors i've seen (mine included- Cablesson) have a micro USB slot so you plug in your charger* to that, then the device to your phone, and it charges as it outputs.
Are you all doing that, or trying to output with no charger attached.
*Mains charger
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I have no problems but to confirm the adapter won't even start-up if you don't connect the charger...it is totally ignored. I am assuming the original poster either has a bad USB/MHL port on the phone, or the adapter is slightly out of tolerance with its connections hence working on some phones and not others.

I've bought an adapter on ebay for my One X. Besides ths usb charging port having issues, it messed my One X usb port - it only worked with the adapter pluged in. I had to reset One X. So, mhl adapters can be really a mess.

myself11 said:
I've bought an adapter on ebay for my One X. Besides ths usb charging port having issues, it messed my One X usb port - it only worked with the adapter plugged in. I had to reset One X. So, mhl adapters can be really a mess.
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First day with phone today so briefly trying lots of things, I had pre-bought cheap ebay MHL adaptor and tried it with a few youtube videos seems to work OK (confirm you must have a charger micro-usb MHL).
It did give about 20 secs of white snow interference at start almost as though it was tuning in channel but steady after that.
More investigations to follow I think.

silas184 said:
First day with phone today so briefly trying lots of things, I had pre-bought cheap ebay MHL adaptor and tried it with a few youtube videos seems to work OK (confirm you must have a charger micro-usb MHL).
It did give about 20 secs of white snow interference at start almost as though it was tuning in channel but steady after that.
More investigations to follow I think.
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How did you get on after more tests?
can you link me to the one you purchased if all worked fine please
if anyone else has a 100% working MHL to HDMI can you post which one and where to purchase.

brainimpact said:
How did you get on after more tests?
can you link me to the one you purchased if all worked fine please
if anyone else has a 100% working MHL to HDMI can you post which one and where to purchase.
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Sucks that I don't have mine yet. I have two different MHL adapters I could try.

I just experienced the original "HTC AC M490" MHL-Adpater with my HTC One (Stock ROM).
It was working straightaway, but the device display as well as the TV screen where a little bit slow and choppy.
Is it possible to change some settings (like resolution or frame rate) to improve the performance?
THX
Edit: Is it MHL 2.0 ? (Regarding to this thread it seems to be only MHL 1.0)?

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Isn't the one purportedly MHL 2.0? Maybe the adapter needs to be different...
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No, it isn't.
The S4 will be the first MHL 2.0 spec device.

Is there any way to set the output resolution manually to 720p?

night4awk said:
I just experienced the original "HTC AC M490" MHL-Adpater with my HTC One (Stock ROM).
It was working straightaway, but the device display as well as the TV screen where a little bit slow and choppy.
Is it possible to change some settings (like resolution or frame rate) to improve the performance?
THX
Edit: Is it MHL 2.0 ? (Regarding to this thread it seems to be only MHL 1.0)?
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With a custom kernel you can do this. Flar2 did this for the one XL, I see he's starting to migrate over here.
Sent from my HTC One X

Yes obviously plugged the charger in aswell with the MHL. The picture is perfect. It just play's for 20/30 seconds then cuts out for a couple and just keeps doing that. Even though the OTG works I still get the error triangle in the notification bar, which I don't on my ONE-X, but I can put up with that.
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MHL

I gather the Zenfone 2 has MHL capability - high definition video and audio (up to 7 channels) output to HDMI via a USB MHL cable/adapter. Has anyone tried connecting to a TV by this method?

kanagawaben said:
I gather the Zenfone 2 has MHL capability - high definition video and audio (up to 7 channels) output to HDMI via a USB MHL cable/adapter. Has anyone tried connecting to a TV by this method?
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GSMArena says that it did have MHL, but everyone who has tried had not gotten it to work, so I'd say it doesn't have it.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD

Good job I didn't buy an HML adapter I saw yesterday then

I tried to compile in Moorefield's HDMI into my kernel for fun the other day; not so great.
Phone booted up, but said that there was an hdmi connection ( without connecting anything ) and started overheating fast.
I'm guessing that there might be an hdmi connection on the board somewhere that connects to the microUSB bus, but it's soldered/jumpered over.

ycavan said:
I tried to compile in Moorefield's HDMI into my kernel for fun the other day; not so great.
Phone booted up, but said that there was an hdmi connection ( without connecting anything ) and started overheating fast.
I'm guessing that there might be an hdmi connection on the board somewhere that connects to the microUSB bus, but it's soldered/jumpered over.
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I think, it's full-featured HDMI connector reserved on SoC (in case if used in Android TV dongle), not MHL.

There is Intel WiDi wifi display service integrated in the Rom. How can we use that for wireless display to a pc or android/smart tv?

Mhl didn't work, tested and asked in zentalk, online chat support and in xda..
But i seen an apk with name hdmi don't know what it is for

Reliable HDMI CONNECTOR

I've tried a couple of devices that claim to connect V20 to tv by wired usb c to HDMI connector. They work for a while then the picture is lost or the phone itself freezes up. About the longest play I've gotten successfully is an hour but usually something goes wrong within 15 minutes.*
The phone has been out over 6 months now so I thought someone may have found a really dependable HDMI connector? I don't mind the lack of power in because I can always change batteries but phone should be able to play through HDMI long enough to watch one movie. That's all I really need hut I don't want to have to screw around with it 10 times to watch one movie.
Thanks so much for your help!

I've been wanting to make use of this feature, but haven't extensively yet. I have though gotten to make fair use of a micro-USB to HDMI adapter. A few trouble spots come to mind here.
Sounds like you're powering the adapter/phone from an external power source? How good is that power source? My micro-USB to HDMI was distinctly less reliable when plugged in since I was merely powering it from a normal USB port. Try running it entirely from the phone's battery. If this works better then it could be you really need a higher power source when using the adapter.
How good is your HDMI cable? Depending on how strongly the phone/adapter drives the HDMI signal, a lower quality cable could break the camel's back.
I've been running into a different bit of trouble with USB-C to HDMI adapters. I've found several of these, but whenever they've got a USB-C pass-through, the pass-through is strictly for power and does not carry the USB signals. The MyDP specification allows for USB3 to be passed through if 1 or 2 pairs are used for the HDMI signal, but allows for USB2 to be passed through no matter how many pairs are used for the HDMI signal. There are adapters which also include USB-A port(s), yet none which include an external USB-C with the USB signals. Grr!

I use C to HDMI not micro usb. V20 doesn't use micro usb. It uses slimport. I have one adapter which allows simultaneous charging and one strictly slimport C to HDMI. Both behave the same way. I have a high quality 2.5 foot HDMI wire.
Power source was Samsung tv usb powered output 1 amp. Point is I have the same issue with pure slimport and no charging.
The one that allows simultaneous charging does in fact charge and work but always craps out but so does the slimport C to HDMI.

Hmm, entertaining what you find when you do research. I suspect the V20 is using the "MyDP" specification, which is the official specification name behind "Slimport". Seems there are at least two other video out methods for USB-C.
I haven't done enough with the video-out feature of my V20 to have much experience yet. With a V10 whenever an adapter was plugged in without external power there were no problems, but when an adapter with external power was plugged in video wasn't reliable.
I'm interested in reading if you find out anything.

Slim Port USB-C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung I got this one from amazon it works will for screen sharing to the head unit in my SUV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

frome901 said:
Slim Port USB-C to HDMI Adapter for Samsung I got this one from amazon it works will for screen sharing to the head unit in my SUV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M733OQA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Can you watch an entire movie from Netflix without jamming or losing hdmi connection?

recDNA said:
Can you watch an entire movie from Netflix without jamming or losing hdmi connection?
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Sorry I haven't tried, but its seems to connect smoother the a wifi dongle.

does anyone know if there's a compatible dongle for the V20 with not only hdmi but also power input and usb host?

Happening to me too - Any suggestions
Your situation's description fits my problem exactly. I have a USB C to HDMI that was vouched as working by several V20 owners. I plug it into my Dell monitor to play games on a bigger screen. It works well for a while, then disconnects and popup on my screen says something like, "LG Bridge has stopped working do you want to exit?". Once this happens, it's almost impossible to get the V20 to share the screen again. It's not a hub, just a USB C (male) to HDMI (female).