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Wow, talk about confusing, the A7 is a whole new world to me.
I've had computers for years, currently I have two running XP & 7, plus I have two laptops running XP & 7. I understand a lot when it comes to computers, but the A7 is so different.
I've downloaded & printed the User Manual and I have read it several times. I've read numerous posts on this forum and now I'm confused. I feel so dumb. Too many words that I don't understand. I want to learn everything I can about running every aspect of this tablet, but it's like just as I learn one thing, the next time it doesn't work that way.
I need more reading material. Whether it be links to posts, books to read, anything to help me understand what I am doing. I make notes of things I have read so that I will remember what to do next time. Post something to help me, PM me or even email me.
I will be so greatfull for any help given.
Thank you
The user manual you can download on elocity's site is useless because there is a lot of things that were never edited out to match the actual release version of the tablet.
As far as computer knowledge and relating it to the a7 or android in general, windows knowledge will not get you very far. A good working knowledge of Unix/Linux will give you a much better idea of what's going on behind the scenes since android is based on Linux (loosely, in my opinion) but still functions very similarly.
If you have any programming or web design experience, I would recommend downloading the android sdk and do some playing around with simple programs. Also with the sdk you can make a virtual android device to monkey around with without fear of messing up your new $300 toy I use eclipse as my development environment in Linux, not sure what a good windows alternative would be, but the structure of an android app is pretty easy to follow. There are example programs and source available on the android developer site developer.android.com if I remember correctly (same place to get the sdk). And the language itself tends to be pretty similar to writing a Java app.
I've probably missed the mark completely on the information you were trying to find, but if you are anything like me, you'll find hours (years if it gets you going down the Linux/Unix path lol) of obsession with just this info.
Hopefully it gets you on the opensource band wagon (the reason I love Linux/Android)
Wow...where to start? Well, you got that you turn it on and slide the lock to the dot to unlock. Then you are in a "home page". There are 5 of them. there are dots at the top of the screen showing which home page ur on. Usually the center one. Touch the screen and slide one way or the other to move the home pages.
If you touch the square whitish pad at the right of the screen with a bunch of darker squares in it, it takes you to your apps - the programs that do what you want.
If you touch an app it runs. Touch the return arrow just to the right of the screen to close the app and go back. It always takes u back.
You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
The home button at the right side of the screen always takes you to the center home page. - It DOES NOT close the app you have open at the moment.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
Based on Linux ... now I understand why this is confusing to me. I've never worked with it before, but I understand from fellow users, they like it better than Windows OS.
I've never done any programming or web design, but maybe it's not too late to learn something new.
I thank both of you for your info and appreciate everything you have said.
mrpete2u I really appreciated the details of your instructions. I know I'm a dummy at this, and I'm sure there are more of you guys out there to help.
Thanks
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You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
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Another newbie jumping in....and trying to figure this out. To "root" the machine do I need to update the firmware from the elocity site or can I jump to Dexters right away. If so, where do I find that?
Thanks for your advice.
your a7 is rooted already with dexters mod or elocity firmware.
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
koalaw said:
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
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You are one version in the rear, version now is 2.0133, most member her are running Dexter Mod 1.41 include myself an entirely different beast, stock Roman won't let me load Asphalt5 game so Dexter it is...A7 come from factor rooted Don't think any other tablet come out already root...
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
koalaw said:
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
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look here for Dexter mod forget about the stock rom ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042
I have now updated to 2.0.0133
Now I need to figure out how to get the market icon so I can start looking for more apps & games. Tried downloading earlier and it keeps telling me that I have downloaded to my phone? I don't have a fancy phone to download to.
Here I am again confused, but what's new about that!!
There is a thread in the device section on adding market to stock rom.
Or you could just run elocitymod by Dexter.
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
koalaw said:
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
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Yes, yes you are lol
For all intents and purposes (as far as Google is concerned at least) your tablet is a phone.
Install market enabler on the a7 and fake a cell provider. The a7 should show up on the Google market website after that.
You didn't install dextermod and then apply eLocity update over it did you? Just want to be sure.
Your laughing at me .... that's ok ... right now I'm so new at this, I really don't care, in fact I am laughing at myself for being so dumb.
I went to dexter's site and downloaded a file called elocitymod1.41 and renamed it to update.zip and that is what I installed.
OK I will install market enabler
Thank you again for helping this dummy .... LOL
From the perceived tone of the post prior to my last one, I thought you were already at the laughing stage. I thought I was just laughing along, sorry for the mix up.
Sounds like you are doing everything right. I just wanted to make sure that we were dealing with a clean install of elocitymod, and not something mixed together by trying to ally another update on top of it.
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
koalaw said:
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
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Why not just use market from the tablet? I wouldn't stress so much about trying to get it to work and remotely install from the web site.
Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
koalaw said:
Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
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So are you hitting the Market icon (opening the Market app) or are you trying to open http://market.android.com/ in the web browser?
http://www.unlockroot.com/guide.htm
Device list is here
http://www.unlockroot.com/unlockroot.php
HTC HTC Desire Z 2.3.7
have anyone tryied it yet?
Using this for rooting looks like a longshot to me...
Rooting through ADB is much much much safer.
Avira has detected 2 virus. i deleted it
moshafidi said:
Avira has detected 2 virus. i deleted it
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Microsoft Security Essentials detected stuff too, seems like I'll brick my phone with this. So I think I'll just stick with gfree
wanted to try, but kaspersky also say "virus alarm"
Guys, you do realize that rooting exploits are technically viruses, right?
Superoneclick comes up as a virus on my home computer, yet everyone except HTC phone owners use it to gain root.
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Guys, you do realize that rooting exploits are technically viruses, right?
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Would rooting exploits on Linux/Android come up as viruses on Windows?
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Would rooting exploits on Linux/Android come up as viruses on Windows?
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This tool is downloaded to your computer, then you execute it and it's supposed root your android automatically. Yes, they do show up as viruses sometimes.
The question, is it legit? I have my doubts.
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Superoneclick comes up as a virus on my home computer, yet everyone except HTC phone owners use it to gain root.
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Did a bit of Googling around, just to find out more about why Superoneclick comes up as containing a virus sometimes.
The following gives some theories on why this happens.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/fwm9b/superoneclick_severe_virus_alert_in_windows/
So to answer my own question, it seems that the anti-virus programs may indeed be screening for exploits that don't actually affect Windows, but Linux. Whether this is the case with Unlock Root, or its actually spreading a Windows virus, who knows?
These are all very valid points, yes as with any rooting process, you could end up with a nice shiny brick but then again, "He who dares, Wins!"
However i am a at this having just about rooted my old milestone on the 8th attempt so i think i may leave this to someone else a little than me to try 1st!
No good
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
adamchap said:
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
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I found it pretty easy following the main wiki. You need adb but it's easy if you do a little reading.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
adamchap said:
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
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It was really hard for me at first learning adb, but now it's pretty easy. I'm no expert, but I can follow directions. PM me if you need any help.
The main things that would concern me about this is that it took so long to be released, it's being told to us by some new person who's barely posted anything before, and even more concerning he never came to check back/talk about it :S
I just rooted a friend's EVO Shift which is really similar to the G2. It was a pain but if you follow the steps to the "t" you should be okay. The reason I meantioned it was because I rooted my G2 when it had stock Froyo on it and was easy as cake The problem which makes it difficult is downgrading to Froyo. Once you get past that part... its as easy as using Visionary apk and clicking a button. Its pretty safe inspite of what people think. I'm all for the one click root apps but it's better (and maybe required) to downgrade to Froyo first.
The REAL problem people have is learning adb. It's easy for us veterans but does seem difficult for most people and the command prompt can be intimidating. the only thing I can suggest is put the adb in a folder that you can remember and just copying and pasting commands. just make sure the spaces in the lines are right and its pretty safe.
About this root tool, yeah, I'd say its much safer to use a reputable method than something new.
and with the virus scanners basically calling all root related stuff viruses... there's no way to check for sure if its safe or not. That's why its probably best to go on reputation. The root exploits are what they say they are: an exploit like some viruses in that category. I recommend Avira virus app for windows because it will actually show you the particular virus in their library/database and it's definition and its use. Very handy app along with AVG. Well... good luck to all!
adamchap said:
You know, there are ZERO decent guides, even I'm afraid to say, here on xda on how to successfully, easily and preferrably with a single click, root a Desire Z - and I've been desperate to do mine for a long time. The problem is a lot of the guides have dead links, hard to follow or half missing instructions.
Anyway.
This looked like deep joy, so I just installed it, ran it, changed to USB debug mode, hit "root" against my device and the upshot was that it looked like it went through the process, did a reboot, then still no root (checked with a root checker app and with Avast, trying to access Firewall mode which needs root).
I'm gutted, I thought I could finally make root happen without WAY too complex instructions.
Desire Z, GSM, 2.3.3 unbranded here if that helps anyone out.
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Wiki guide is the only one you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
But it really doesn't sound like you want a guide, you want a one-click solution. This seems to be an increasing trend, as more of the masses get interested in rooting, but don't want to put forth any effort.
It would seem to me that having root, without an understanding of some of the basic terms, concepts, and tools, is a dangerous place to be. Modding your phone without some basic knowledge can get you in a real mess, without the tools to get you out of it.
Do yourself a favor, just start reading. Understand the guide, roll up your sleeves and do it. Its really not that hard. But it will take some time, as many of the terms, tools, procedures will be new to you. But you'll be better for it in the long run. HTC has a tendency to protect their devices from one-click root apps. So if you like HTC devices, you may as well get used to the fact that rooted is a process, and not one click. Plus, with any ROM flashing or other modding, things like ADB are good to know and be able to use, in case things go awry.
Anything in the guide that you don't understand can usually be answered by just using the XDA search function, or Googling around the net. If you make a halfway legit attempt to research the question yourself, and still don't get it, come back to the forums and ask, and somebody will help you.
Agree with Redpoint73.
A tool that does system manipulation on a remote platform isn't a virus on the platform it's run, so programs that manipulate your windows host file perform actions similar to what some viruses do. Open an ADB and push a few commands is NOT that so if your system warns, take that seriously! Even if I would love to have a SuperOneClick give me root on my HTZ Desire Z (work phone so I really shouldn't mess with it) I am NOT interested in touching something like this. Why would someone register a domain and make an entire homepage, rather than posting the code here, unless it was fishy?
I would be ready to bet that these guys can monitize on this in one way or another, so it *might* work as a root but rest assure that either the PC or the phone is contaminated when it's done.
The point of one-click rooting is just to get to the features I want that I've been locked out from... using a firewall app, using a backup app, maybe a quick flash of a ROM without operator bloatware in it - a couple of other features like that. I'm sure the majority of users such as me don't feel we should NEED to learn command sets and technical stuff that we don't need to, nor have the time in our lives to learn.
It's all about features and user experience for me - and I can't get to those features without root. I don't want to do anything complex, arcane or put nightlies on, but simply have a lighter ROM with a couple of more features, and that doesn't need anything more than a button marked "Root".
Cheers for all the input on this everyone.
Hello All,
I'm quite the noob (see? didn't even use zeroes) and I rooted my Fire using the Kindle Fire Utility. I installed market, did CHMOD and all that to the apk, and installed Market Opener. I can get to the market fine, but most apps I want to download, like the facebook app, or the twitter app, I get "Your device isn't compatible" Anyone have any ideas to remedy this one?
You might be able to fix some of those issues by editing your build.prop to make it look like another device. I believe there is either a utility or tutorial kicking around here somewhere, maybe in the development section?
im not sure theres away around that until someone does a screen density hack, like with the nook color its baked into cm7. eventually it wont be a problem, for now just google apk you want and download it, with my friends i just have a dropbox shared folder and when ever we find an app that we cant acces in the market we just put it in that folder for the rest of us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428231
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416224
I have the same issue with the sideloaded apps that I originally bought on Android Market with my phone. I don't want to root, but it seems like it would be worthwhile for someone to make a utility that will patch an APK to fool Kindle into thinking the app is made for Kindle.
Of course, then maybe there would be some validation issues between the app and the market.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I'll try it out when I get home tonight and let you know if anything suggested works.
I'm using twa_priv's Jelly Bean ROM with SGT7 enhancements on my (first-generation) Kindle Fire, and wanted to install and use WhatsApp on this device.
Not having an Android phone, I found that the instructions here worked well: use Bluestacks on my PC to help get the needed code to install and start up WhatsApp. But when I actually tried to enter a chat on WhatsApp, the application kept crashing.
After seeing that someone else was having the same problem, and looking through the logcat.txt, I figured out that the crash has something to do with a bitmap/image operation in WhatsApp. That led me to a workaround, and now I can use WhatsApp on my Kindle Fire running CM10.
The relevant setting is found in Settings -> Chat preferences -> Wallpaper. I simply set it to "No wallpaper" (it's the conversation, not the background, that matters to me!). But I found it also works if I choose an image somewhere in my filesystem ("Android System"); selecting "WhatsApp" prompts me to download the WhatsApp Wallpaper package, which I don't really care to do. Just don't set it to "Default" -- that's what leads to the app crashing.
This workaround works using WhatsApp Messenger 2.8.4930. Hope this helps others!
Update for WhatsApp 2.9.2871
With the latest version of WhatsApp as of this writing (2.9.2871) running on twa_priv's version of the CM10.1 port, I no longer have to set the chat wallpaper to "No wallpaper" to avoid a crash when entering chats. I'm not sure whether it's because of a fix in CM10.1 or in WhatsApp, but that's one less workaround needed. Hurray!
ezekiel_quacks said:
With the latest version of WhatsApp as of this writing (2.9.2871) running on twa_priv's version of the CM10.1 port, I no longer have to set the chat wallpaper to "No wallpaper" to avoid a crash when entering chats. I'm not sure whether it's because of a fix in CM10.1 or in WhatsApp, but that's one less workaround needed. Hurray!
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I have recently bought a kindle fire and was hoping to use whatsapp on it. I was pleased to find the recent messages re this, however I am a middle-aged grandmother and I'm sorry but they may just as well be written in an alien language from another planet! Is there any way instructions can be given to me that I could easily follow? Thank you for any help.
you can use Whatsapp if you are willing to use a custom ROM...
mario's mum said:
I have recently bought a kindle fire and was hoping to use whatsapp on it. I was pleased to find the recent messages re this, however I am a middle-aged grandmother and I'm sorry but they may just as well be written in an alien language from another planet! Is there any way instructions can be given to me that I could easily follow? Thank you for any help.
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Before I attempt to do so, I'd have to first ask some preliminary questions:
1. Which version of the Kindle Fire are you using? My instructions were based on my experiences on the first generation Kindle Fire, so if you have something different, then I'm not 100% sure this will work for you.
2. Are you running the default software/firmware for the Kindle Fire?
3. If so, are you willing to install a custom firmware (like the various kinds being discussed on these forums), or would you prefer to stick with the default firmware? Installing a custom firmware ("flashing a custom ROM") is not for the technologically faint of heart, even though it's in practical terms not that difficult.
I'm not sure if my instructions will work with the default ("stock") firmware on any version of the Kindle Fire. But depending on your answers, I might still be able to offer some pointers...
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Before I attempt to do so, I'd have to first ask some preliminary questions:
1. Which version of the Kindle Fire are you using? My instructions were based on my experiences on the first generation Kindle Fire, so if you have something different, then I'm not 100% sure this will work for you.
2. Are you running the default software/firmware for the Kindle Fire?
3. If so, are you willing to install a custom firmware (like the various kinds being discussed on these forums), or would you prefer to stick with the default firmware? Installing a custom firmware ("flashing a custom ROM") is not for the technologically faint of heart, even though it's in practical terms not that difficult.
I'm not sure if my instructions will work with the default ("stock") firmware on any version of the Kindle Fire. But depending on your answers, I might still be able to offer some pointers...
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Thank you,
1. How can I find this out? I've looked on the box and the two small leaflets that came with it and all I can see is Model Number D01400? I have literally just bought it.
2. I presume I am running the default/firmware as I haven't made any changes or downloaded anything - would you agree?
3. I'm willing to give anything a go - as long as I can understand what I am supposed to be doing and also as long as it is not going to cause any lasting damage.
Actually I think I should not have bought the kindle and what I wanted was an android tablet - my mistake. But if by installing anything you suggest this would enable me to download Whatsapp - and any other app that Amazon does not seem to allow - then I would be happy. Is this what may be achieved?
Thanks again, sorry I'm not good at all this technical stuff!
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Thank you,
1. How can I find this out? I've looked on the box and the two small leaflets that came with it and all I can see is Model Number D01400? I have literally just bought it.
2. I presume I am running the default/firmware as I haven't made any changes or downloaded anything - would you agree?
3. I'm willing to give anything a go - as long as I can understand what I am supposed to be doing and also as long as it is not going to cause any lasting damage.
Actually I think I should not have bought the kindle and what I wanted was an android tablet - my mistake. But if by installing anything you suggest this would enable me to download Whatsapp - and any other app that Amazon does not seem to allow - then I would be happy. Is this what may be achieved?
Thanks again, sorry I'm not good at all this technical stuff!
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Swipe down from the top of the screen. And press more, from there go to the device section, What does the software version say?
read the beginner's guide first
mario's mum said:
Actually I think I should not have bought the kindle and what I wanted was an android tablet - my mistake. But if by installing anything you suggest this would enable me to download Whatsapp - and any other app that Amazon does not seem to allow - then I would be happy. Is this what may be achieved?
Thanks again, sorry I'm not good at all this technical stuff!
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Well, let me be the first to say that I admire your courage, at least! :good: You need to understand, though, that you probably have to do more than just install some app -- this is more like completely replacing the operating system (e.g., Windows) on your PC with another one (e.g., MacOS X). If you make it through these minefields, you'll effectively have a pretty fully functional Android tablet, but it's generally more for the technically minded (i.e., geeks) to attempt and maintain.
Maybe a good first step would be for you to go here and read through a Beginner's Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547. If that's too intimidating, then you probably won't be able to get to the point where I can help you install Whatsapp on your Kindle Fire.
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Well, let me be the first to say that I admire your courage, at least! :good: You need to understand, though, that you probably have to do more than just install some app -- this is more like completely replacing the operating system (e.g., Windows) on your PC with another one (e.g., MacOS X). If you make it through these minefields, you'll effectively have a pretty fully functional Android tablet, but it's generally more for the technically minded (i.e., geeks) to attempt and maintain.
Maybe a good first step would be for you to go here and read through a Beginner's Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547. If that's too intimidating, then you probably won't be able to get to the point where I can help you install Whatsapp on your Kindle Fire.
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Hello again, thanks for that - but after reading what you've said I don't think my courage extends that far! Anyway, not just so I can Whatsapp when I've got it on my phone. I'm hoping I'll get used to the kindle in time - while I save up for what I really wanted in the first place!
Thanks again.
might be just as well...
mario's mum said:
Hello again, thanks for that - but after reading what you've said I don't think my courage extends that far! Anyway, not just so I can Whatsapp when I've got it on my phone. I'm hoping I'll get used to the kindle in time - while I save up for what I really wanted in the first place!
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You may find that the Kindle Fire, other than its awkward launcher, may fit the bill just fine as you get used to it. Try browsing the Amazon App Store, and you will probably find most of the apps you'd regularly use on a generic Android tablet. As for Whatsapp, you can't really run it with the same account on more than one device at the same time anyway, so it might be just as well that you only use it on your phone. :cyclops:
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You may find that the Kindle Fire, other than its awkward launcher, may fit the bill just fine as you get used to it. Try browsing the Amazon App Store, and you will probably find most of the apps you'd regularly use on a generic Android tablet. As for Whatsapp, you can't really run it with the same account on more than one device at the same time anyway, so it might be just as well that you only use it on your phone. :cyclops:
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Oh that's made me feel a bit better about the Whatsapp!, and you're right I am getting used to it. Thanks for your advice.
Aplogies for bumping an old thread
I have a rooted Kindle Fire (first generation).
I would like to install WhatsApp Messenger on it. I don't have a CUSTOM-ROM. This is rooted without any customizations.
Is there something I can do, to get this started? Any pointers in the right direction are appreciated.
Well, it's been over a year since my original post, and I no longer run Whatsapp on my Kindle Fire now, so I can't be sure what works now. But I'd suggest you follow the links in the first post on this thread for starters, and see if that gets you anywhere.
Platform: Fire HD 8 (6th edition)
OS: 5.4.0.1
Willing to rollback?: Yes (it has broken some email functionality)
Launcher: Nova paid
I have activity launcher installed, as well as launcherhijack v3.
I have set the home screen button in accessibility, and have Nova enabled as the home. I have Nova enabled as the launcher, but have not deleted the fire launcher, as I would prefer not to.
The issue I'm having is that I can't seem to use widgets. I have read up on adb use for the fire, but Windows doesn't want to play nicely, and I don't currently have a linux machine available (yes, I could VM one, or setup a bootable USB, but I'm looking for a solution that would work with what I have currently in place).
Issue: Any time I go to place a widget on a Nova launcher screen, it brings up the list per normal, but when I go to place the widget, I get bounced back to the Kindle settings UI, and am unable to sort out a workaround.
Any suggestions would be appreciated, particularly if they don't require ADB, as so far Windows does not want to allow me to update the ADB drivers (it shows them as current stock drivers and functioning, as well as stating that the ones from google are a no-go).
Sadly, pushed the update when I did not expect it, so all of this was done after update rolled out. Play store was isntalled prior, and settings are for allowing debugging and developer settings, so at least I got the play store on prior to the update (which apparently some people are having issues with). For me, the store is working well, as is sideloading, which is why I'm thinking there must be a reliable solution to get widgets functioning in Nova without needing to ADB command it on.
Thank you,
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No, you definitely need a working adb, it's your gate to all Fire HD hacks and improvements. If you can't - stay with Amazon bits and don't ask questions like this here.
Thanks to @DragonFire1024, we have a pretty nice hack to enable widgets on any launcher; it's very easy to apply and use. But PLEASE don't complain about prerequisites, if you can't get adb working on Windows, it's better to stay off all hacks and actually this site. Just enjoy your Amazon Fire HD (it's pretty cool even with OEM software installed).
Agreed! There is no need to be rude to those who are just learning. I appreciate those like Dragon who gives help to others without making them feel like idiots. With the help of this forum, I have gotten everything but gmail working! And that weird go to black screen and back to lock screen when I swipe application off the screen. An sure it will get fixed.
The widget script might work in a terminal emulator. Jack Pals on the play store is by far the best. Just search for terminal emulator for Android, place the script in the internal storage and try running it in the emulator. I honestly don't know if that will work though as all the hacks I do are usually with ADB.
DragonFire1024 said:
The widget script might work in a terminal emulator. Jack Pals on the play store is by far the best. Just search for terminal emulator for Android, place the script in the internal storage and try running it in the emulator. I honestly don't know if that will work though as all the hacks I do are usually with ADB.
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Thank you! I will give that a try.
Let's try to keep the comments directly related to Q&A for this device.
Getting snarky with other users and starting a back and forth argument is off-topic, and usually rude (both violations of the rules).
So, please; keep the Off-topic back and forth off the thread. If you are offended by, or feel another user's comment violates the rules, simply REPORT the comment and do not engage the other user further. No need to add MORE clutter.
Thanks for your cooperation.
sensboston said:
No, you definitely need a working adb, it's your gate to all Fire HD hacks and improvements. If you can't - stay with Amazon bits and don't ask questions like this here.
Thanks to @DragonFire1024, we have a pretty nice hack to enable widgets on any launcher; it's very easy to apply and use. But PLEASE don't complain about prerequisites, if you can't get adb working on Windows, it's better to stay off all hacks and actually this site. Just enjoy your Amazon Fire HD (it's pretty cool even with OEM software installed).
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Can you please explain to me how I can update the ADB? I'm not familiar with how to do this at all.
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Yeah, but...
bladebarrier said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
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This is where I started, but I have been unable to find a way to find anything mentioning ADB (much less enable it) on our Fire HD 8 (7th Generation).
I have been looking through multiple guides for the past 20 minutes, but the newest firmware seems to have hidden or disabled the ability on the actual device. I am logged into the tablet on the main account, but even under "Device Administrators" it says "No available device administrators".
Did Amazon manage to lock these down to be nothing but a pimp for Amazon (as was their intended goal)?
Edit: Fire OS 5.6.1.0
Did Amazon manage to lock these down to be nothing but a pimp for Amazon (as was their intended goal)?
Yes, they did. It's the razor and blades business model. Such as one item is sold at a low price (or given away for free) in order to increase sales of a complementary goods.
When you go into the Setting then into Device Options, is Developer Options at the bottom of the list? If it isn't I think you need to tap the Serial Number 7 times, then it should appear and that is where you can enable ADB.
The dedication of the members of the xda forums are the only reason why a lot of devices such as these manage to reach their potential. I'm pretty new here (joined in February) but I never seen any member give up on a device. What most see as frustration, including myself, a lot of the members here not only see a challenge but an opportunity.
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Agreed! There is no need to be rude to those who are just learning. I appreciate those like Dragon who gives help to others without making them feel like idiots. With the help of this forum, I have gotten everything but gmail working! And that weird go to black screen and back to lock screen when I swipe application off the screen. An sure it will get fixed.
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For now without a rooted device the kick to the lock screen cannot be fixed. That is an unfortunate event which is a result of disabling fire launcher without root. Gmail is give or take. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. If I really had to take a guess I would say Google and Amazon are fighting between each other to get Gmail to work or stop working. It seems when enough users complain Gmail stops working within a few minutes it works again in a couple days later Amazon stops it. I would go back to an old version of Gmail, take your pick and keep trying different versions from there. If he older versions don't work that I'm at a loss at the moment. I do not currently use Gmail on my Amazon tablets. Only because I get too much mail lol. however with that having been said I have never had a problem with Gmail on any of my Amazon tablets with or without root.
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Did Amazon manage to lock these down to be nothing but a pimp for Amazon (as was their intended goal)?
Yes, they did. It's the razor and blades business model. Such as one item is sold at a low price (or given away for free) in order to increase sales of a complementary goods.
When you go into the Setting then into Device Options, is Developer Options at the bottom of the list? If it isn't I think you need to tap the Serial Number 7 times, then it should appear and that is where you can enable ADB.
The dedication of the members of the xda forums are the only reason why a lot of devices such as these manage to reach their potential. I'm pretty new here (joined in February) but I never seen any member give up on a device. What most see as frustration, including myself, a lot of the members here not only see a challenge but an opportunity.
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Thanks for the reminder of how to enable Developer Options - it has been a while since I had to do that. ADB is now enabled!
Thanks to everyone in the xda-developers community!
AnotherNameFFS said:
Thanks for the reminder of how to enable Developer Options - it has been a while since I had to do that. ADB is now enabled!
Thanks to everyone in the xda-developers community!
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Glad you got it enabled! It's one of those steps that is easy to forget
Why are you saying that he should get off the site. Thats rude