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I have searched around the forum but cant find any recent discussions on what is the best HD2 rom, i recently used CoreDroidGBX and i find the battery life to be pretty good on that (Lasts me till end of day with light use (Light use being screen on about 2-3 hours out of that day) End of day being 7:00 Unplugged Low bat around 5-6:00) But i see about 300-500 mA useage when im actually doing anything on my phone(But just like 2-3mA when its off and i disable data)
So i keep experimenting with different roms and i am wondering what you guys have experienced the best battery life with on your HD2's.
Also i have to manually toggle off data, is there a app to auto do it, like automatically whenever the screen is turned off? I had my phone on battery nearly 24hours (Although i was on my laptop and only used it for like 20 mins of phone calls and a few texts) but still a real full day was awesome
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I have searched around the forum but cant find any recent discussions on what is the best HD2 rom, i recently used CoreDroidGBX and i find the battery life to be pretty good on that (Lasts me till end of day with light use (Light use being screen on about 2-3 hours out of that day) End of day being 7:00 Unplugged Low bat around 5-6:00) But i see about 300-500 mA useage when im actually doing anything on my phone(But just like 2-3mA when its off and i disable data)
So i keep experimenting with different roms and i am wondering what you guys have experienced the best battery life with on your HD2's.
Also i have to manually toggle off data, is there a app to auto do it, like automatically whenever the screen is turned off? I had my phone on battery nearly 24hours (Although i was on my laptop and only used it for like 20 mins of phone calls and a few texts) but still a real full day was awesome
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Coredroidgbx? There is a Coredroid series by Sergio and a hyperdroidgbx by Pongster. Both get rave reviews for battery. I run hyperdroid and I get 18 hours of normal use no problem. If you consider watching YouTube and flash video all day normal there is no rom that will last doing that.
Do you prefer a sense or a non sense build? GB or Froyo? CM7 or ASOP?
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deadant2 said:
I have searched around the forum but cant find any recent discussions on what is the best HD2 rom, i recently used CoreDroidGBX and i find the battery life to be pretty good on that (Lasts me till end of day with light use (Light use being screen on about 2-3 hours out of that day) End of day being 7:00 Unplugged Low bat around 5-6:00) But i see about 300-500 mA useage when im actually doing anything on my phone(But just like 2-3mA when its off and i disable data)
So i keep experimenting with different roms and i am wondering what you guys have experienced the best battery life with on your HD2's.
Also i have to manually toggle off data, is there a app to auto do it, like automatically whenever the screen is turned off? I had my phone on battery nearly 24hours (Although i was on my laptop and only used it for like 20 mins of phone calls and a few texts) but still a real full day was awesome
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I would say u need to check some nand built on your own as different phone respond differently to rom built. hyperdroidgbx and rafroid hd 4 are good option to move ahead and check
+1 agree.
Thoese are my favorites too.
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tried using CoreDroidGBX before also..
smooth... but battery is almost the same as other builds..
In my opinion the best battery life was in unofficial nightly CM7 by charsingh (1-3mA in standby). But due to some issues i had to switch to Typhoon CM, battery drain is notably higher (6-10mA standby) but for me it is the best ROM ever.
I think that the functionality of the ROM is litle bit more important than small diferences in battery drain.
Motoman234's Moto-MyTouch4G v3.3
Nand build and the best I've tried so far. I can get 2 days with light use (text and moderate calls) and a full day with fairly heavy use ie: web for 1-3 hrs and 1-2 hrs of various games along with calls and texting. I call my family on the east coast frequently and a 2 1/2 hour call is not unusual, loose maybe 20 to 25percent on the call depending on my signal. Great rom, a chef that responds and helps, again nand build. totally functional for me no issues flashed 4 different phones to it so far! .
I as a rule, leave wifi on always and use bluetooth, location, and background data only as needed. Blue tooth and background data will suck the juice right out! Still, if I forget and leave those on I can still get a full 10 hr day out of a single charge, provided i dont spend hrs surfing.
+1 for Cyanogen Mod 7. I tried a lot of DesHD builds but CM7 has the longest battery life by far for me. One charge lasts me about two days with light use. With all DesHD builds i never made it past 24 hours. Usually even less than that.
Furthermore CM7 is just beautiful, especially with cyanbreadX
i'm on rafdroid 4.0 and unplugged this morning at 8 am and the time now is 5:30 and i'm at 60% with moderate use and wifi off.
i will say though that if i play bubble blast 2 that thing sucks the battery like nothing and i'm not sure why. it's amost 1% battery per min i can feel the phone get hot from use.
Running cm7 unoficcial right now and seem to be getting good batter life, but I have seen it actually use 700mA (srsly) when just charging ..
But can idle forever. But lost 15% in an hour during lunch...
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I just put HyperDroidGBXv7 on my phone a couple days ago and its been great on battery life so far. I unplugged my phone about a 12hrs ago and its at 74%, averaging about 3-4ma on standby. No classes today, so I've only used it lightly today for some quick wifi browsing, short gaming (Angry Birds), and about 30 texts.
Ok been trying cm7 and for some reason when actually using my phone I seem to get a steady 535mA battery useage, any suggestions on fixing this?
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Anybody know why my actually using my phone usage is so darn high? I just flashed to the stock rom, reinstalled magldr + Clockwork and im about to flash android again.
Doubt that will help but i need battery life..
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Anybody know why my actually using my phone usage is so darn high? I just flashed to the stock rom, reinstalled magldr + Clockwork and im about to flash android again.
Doubt that will help but i need battery life..
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Hyperdroidgbx v9. There really is no comparison to this rom. Be amazed.
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I'm using IamGPC's Pure Gingerbread, although hard to get since he moved his updates from XDA, but I have -2MA in standby. It's a 2.3.3. clean Android version.
Just wondered if there was a better battery on the market to buy or if HTC are developing one?
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3rd Parties do sell batteries with higher capacity. But quality is not assured and they are not endorsed by HTC.
I've always had bad experience with 3rd party batteries.
Custom ROM + setting up your phone correctly is the best way to improve your battery life
Turn your mobile off..
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My battery lasts at least 35 hours no problem and i browse constant i just turn data off wen not using it. I also fully charged my phone let battery die without touching it then fully charged and its great
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try callibration as described in one of the many battery threads on here, and if your running a custom CM7 based rom try mad-murdocks battery fix, But in reality with a high powered smart phone you aint gonna get much more than a days usage out of it without charging.
In the beginning I also had huge problems with my DHD's batterylife.
Now, it easily lasts 2 whole days with constant hspda connection, push on and no task manager, rooting or anything... ow, and my screen is always set to 100% brightness.
Don't know why I had such low batteeylife in the beginning, but I'm absolutely loving it now, lasts way longer than my iPhone 3gs
I have fount using the MIUI rom, has helped my battery.
I wouldn't buy a 3rd party battery...I dont think they live up to the claims they make.
i've bought an extra chinese battery for when im travelling where there's no outlets. works good for me
For me my battery lasts easily 35 hours.
My best advice is, if you have a HTCSense.com account, remove it. It drains battery very fast.
I am on CM7 RC1 with maddock's new kernel and android assistant with auto quick boost every 2 hours, works pretty well for me. idling only 1% power consumption an hour sometimes even less.
THats with push gmail, wifi, 3g constantly turned on.
My battery started of very poor but its improving over time.. current stat : 22 hrs phone idle , screen on : 1:15 , voice call : 22min , WiFi : 4hrs , data connection on when no WiFi , music : 45min , fair bit of browsing , 25% battery left ....
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Problem solved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984337
I am loving it!
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Using Revolution 4.0 rom and took 13 hours to take 10% of battery. Pretty good.
Wireless on and some calls
third party battery's are really cheap, so carrying a few extra battery's while on a flight off more then 8 hours for example is really convinient, because a few extra battery's don't take alot off space and they are really cheap.
And I also do run custom roms, right now I have the Gingerbeard rom from Mike running, but it was said that the custom roms use less enegry, but I don't know if you would notice alot off difference.
Getting at least a day use out of the stock battery
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My battery was crap before i rooted,
With root and gingerroms i cant complain on the battery lifetime anymore.
I got an external battery instead: (search for TeckNet Dual-Port iEP380 5000mAh on Amazon, I can't post links yet).
Lots of capacity, but rather slow to charge (both itself, and the phone)
I can lasts 2 to 3 days with normal use (tweeting sometimes, updating weather, twitter, facebook, htcsense, and anything else every hour, txting 5x a day, calling 0 to 3 times a day, and spending 5 to 10 minutes on market every day).
I am using stock rom.
And using JuiceDefender with UltimateJuice to let my phone turn of 3G every time, and turn on 3G every hour for 1 min to update.
I'd love to have an extr battary.
I just want to know what I can do to improve my battery on CM7 nightly 32. I'm at 21 hours now and almost dead. Yet I see people get stuff like 2 days and 10 hours... I have tasker and the only profile I have is when the screen goes off it turns mobile data off (not sure If it works so I also use apndroid). I NEVER use wifi, bluetooth, or high brightness. I do however have gps on so in case I lose my phone is lost or stolen I can track it. So there's no way I'm disabling that. I have tried juice defender but figured since it can't effectively disable data for 2.3.3 I saw no point in the app. Any tips?
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Sorry for the typos, I'm half asleep and there's no editing option in the xda app... atleast add it to the premium version!
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21 hours on moderate use is great battery life. 12 hours is usually the measuring stick for smartphones, less is bad, greater is good.
Don't know who you saw getting two days plus, but they are either not touching their phone or have an extended battery.
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Best way to extend battery life is to get an extended or high capacity battery. I just got the Mugen Power pack, not the chunky one, and im in the process of breaking it in.
On my stock battery i was getting about 17hrs of moderate use. Almost no talk but alot of texting, engadget and youtube mostly on wifi with gps always on. That might give you an idea, plus, there are countless battery related threads on here.
Will post back in afew days after my Mugen has cycled afew times.
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I have 4 stock replacement batterys and never plug my phone in to the charger. When my phone is at about 5% i just take one out and pop the next one in and charge them in the wall... I know its not the answer you want but I never have a problem with battery life lol
I would agree that 21 hours is great battery life on this phone. I can get a week of battery life on my phone if I put it in airplane mode and stick it in my desk drawer =P
Not sure how big of an impact the tasker profile has. Unless your screen is off for long periods of time I would think that it might harm the battery life because every time you touch the device, it has to 'search' and connect to the tower again.
You can try running the phone at the stock CPU speed to see if that has an improvement on your battery life. I currently run the same 1017/245 as you with a screen off profile set at 245/245.
For me, as long as I can make it through a day's use, the battery life is fine. With moderate use I can go about 15-18 hours and heavy use I'm at around 12. The car charger in those cases is a life saver.
Bottom line is, battery life really depends on your usage habits. Those people getting days out of their phones likely aren't using them very much...
well i have setcpu set at 806 max and 245 min. screen off is at 245/245 and on powersave governor. other then that its on ondemand. i also have profile set to reduce the CPU based on battery. I have it set to <101% its at 806/245 , <41% its at 768/245 and less then 25 is 368/245. i realize that these are low speed but i hardly ever get lag and i use it for everything, music, video, youtube, internet, twitter, facebook, xda , and a here and there gmail. i guess if im getting exceptional battery life... anyone want some tips?
I find the more variation I put into profiles on setcpu, the worse my battery life gets. Theory - it is constantly watching and making changes based on your CPU needs and battery. So I have mine set to 1113-1113 performance, 245-245 powersave screen off, 245-245 powersave 45degrees+ and for your mobile data, try just having a widget to turn it on and off as you need it. You probably don't need it on everytime you turn on your screen do you?
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The apndroid widget eventually gets out of sync with on/off with the data... I think its gingerbread. Most apps can't effectively turn the radio off. I hope they make one soon!
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I find the stock battery to be not that great. I bought the Chichi batteries way back in October (when they were still considered cheap) and theyve been great. I havent really done any new tests since October, but back then (before I had a data plan) I was getting atleast a day and more (from 100% to dead) with moderate usage.
I'd look for a high capacity battery, though they seem to be expensive now.
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The apndroid widget eventually gets out of sync with on/off with the data... I think its gingerbread. Most apps can't effectively turn the radio off. I hope they make one soon!
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The power bar widget that comes with cm7 works perfect for me. Turns onoff Wi-Fi/apn/GPS/brightness/airplanemode
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I just tested out my battery the other day. I got a day and 13 hours and I was at 19 percent. Wifi is a big battery killer, and brightness is too.
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Ill post a battery success story...sounds nerdy lol. And i live at my own home with my own family lol.
My mothers g2 is rooted and running cm7 nightly 29 or 30, I installed it last week. I asked her today for the first time how the battery was after a week. She is using an aftermarket 1800mah battery, wifi only at home, she was almost at 32 hours and had 39% battery left!!!!
Not sure of all settings but i put it on 1113mhz, on demand with min 368, autobacklight, wifi only at home, bluetooth is always connected and on. Talk is about 70% of her usage overall. 4 gmail accounts. I did not install set cpu at all. I even stopped it on my phone because it didnt help me one bit.
Not too shabby. I was at 57% with some texting but a lot of gps usage for latitude and wifi always on even when not at home.
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here is what i get out of a day (battery consumption for specific tasks are mentioned in percentages measured using juiceplotter)
wifi on constantly
display set to 24% brightness
background sync enabled (google, weather 6hrs, whatsapp and facebook once a day)
45 min video (rockplayer no h/w decoding) 15%
1 hr browsing+chat 15%
30 min calls 6%
20 min music+chat 5%
20 min general usage 5%
1 hr flash streaming 15%
24 hrs standby 24% (@ 1% for every hr of standby)
15% battery remaining after 24 hrs i.e. low battery warning.
i disabled the use wireless network option under locations and always on mobile data
and get much better battery life, also i use wifi constantly when available (which is 90% of the time), it is much better for battery life than using 3g or gprs/edge.
pretty amazing battery life IMO i am very happy.
So i have cycled my Mugen 1800mA battery acouple times. on average, i'm able to get about 27hrs of heavy use. Here are some settings as a baseline:
Always on Data
Wifi always on
Auto brightness
1GHz clock speed
massive amounts of text use
massive amounts of screen on time
will report back in afew days time after some more cycles.
hey there
basically, last night i:
1)wiped battery stats
2)discharged till phone shuts off
3)turned phone on again so it turns off again
4)went to sleep with it charging
5)woke up 9 hours later, on 100%
so if its fully charged, battery ETA is only giving it 7 hours and 44 minutes estimated time, WITHOUT WIFI, GPS OR MOBILE DATA, AND 25% BRIGHTNESS USING 'BRIGHTNESS PROFILES' APP. isnt this like.... rubbish? this is my setup
stock battery
cyanogenmod 7.0.3 w/ Eugene's Smartass overclock kernel V9
*******Setcpu profiles: default 245/1228 smartass
Screen Off 192/368 conservative (100 priority)
Temp >38.5C 245/806 ondemand (priority 80)
Charging 368/1459 ondemand (priority 78)
battery <10% 245/368 ondemand (priority 71)
battery 15% 245/768 ondemand (priority 60)*********
ADW launcher w/honeycomb theme
-no widgets!-
i dont want to buy one of those bulky batteries, as it wont fit in my school blazer. the question is, how do i extend my battery?
Thanks
Sounds like a duff battery. I get about 20 hours with everything on on stock rom.
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oh okay thanks, where could i buy a decent battery, adding no bulk but not too expensive?
I'm wondering the same thing... the Desire Z only comes with a 1300mAh battery... My previous phone had a more powerfull battery (2100mAh) and that was an older model WM6 smartphone (which was rubbish on power savings) and it would outlast the desire Z... Even after two years of extensive use, the old phone's battery is better then this phones brand new battery
I've been unable to find any official HTC batteries for the Desire Z which pack more juice...
At the OP. What is your signal strength like? Mine is rubbish at work as I work in a converted barn and that makes a big difference to the battery life.
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at home i ALWAYS have 3/4 bars out of 4
btw i am also using JuiceDefender, if that would make a difference :L...
since the OP, ive been on facebook for about 30-40 mins, already 82% battery.....
Have a look through the accessories section. Lots of threads about replacement batteries.
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I am in the process of 'breaking in' a new 1800 MuganPower battery. Fits perfectly with no mods needed.
It should take a few more charges etc to settle down, so things should theoretically improve.
I pulled the plug off charge 6.5 hours ago.
I have it set to use wifi when at home, and 3g for the phone connection (I have a 3G femtocell at home).
When I leave my home area, it switches off 3g and wifi and drops to 2g.
I have made a couple of 2 minute calls, checked my emails and twitter, and was out of the house for say 1.5 hours earlier.
I have had a couple of texts to which i replied.
I am on 95% charge now, and pretty pleased with that.
I've got the same mugen battery, and get through a full day easily no matter what I do. Screen full bright, wifi always on, some internet, games, gps.... etc. Only 7 hours of battery to me sounds terrible.
since my last post, i havent touched the phone at all, and its got 66% charge -__- i seriously need a better battery, may buy the mugen, would you say they are worth it?
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since my last post, i havent touched the phone at all, and its got 66% charge -__- i seriously need a better battery, may buy the mugen, would you say they are worth it?
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Have you made sure there are no apps or services that are using to much?
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Are you using the Google News and Weather widget? I still don't know why, but it was murdering my battery. Soon as I removed the widget, battery life shot back up.
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nope, no widgets except the built in analogue clock.
the battery usage is used by mobile standby, wifi, display etc. no apps....
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nope, no widgets except the built in analogue clock.
the battery usage is used by mobile standby, wifi, display etc. no apps....
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What percentage per section(standby, display) is being used?
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mobile standby 33%
wifi 28%
phone idle 28%
display 5%
im surprised its been 10h 15m and im still on 58%
the battery seems okay when not touching the phone, as i have only checked facebook for 2 minutes, and sent around 10 texts (been playing football)
looks like imma turn off wifi when not using it from now!
When I first got my Desire Z when it first came out I was pretty disappointed in the battery life. I tried programs like juice defender and minimized every possible battery sucking option I could find. I could maybe get 12 hours of use out of it so I bought a 1800mAh MuganPower battery which gave me maybe 15 hours instead. Pretty poor I thought but what more could I do?
A couple of months ago I finally did a factory reset after encountering a lot of frustrating little bugs, some of which had been around since the phone was new. Since then not only has my phone worked a lot better and faster, but battery life is MUCH improved. My phone now consistently lasts 24 - 30 hours with the same usage or more than I was using it before. So obviously buggy software can make a huge impact on battery life and it's not something you are going to be able to easily discern as to what program(s) are causing the problem.
Hmmm im not sure then..
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Okay, played a bit of speedx 3D, heavy texting and facebook/gochat, still on 31%. Battery seems ok, still going to invest in a better one though, as using the phone for games or internet heavily drains the battery, whereas standby seems to be quite good, but need to turn off wifi. I will see how it fairs tomorrow, and post a picture.
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28% for wifi seems really high. I always have wifi on and it only takes up 6%.
I wanted to start a new thread comparing which GB roms have the best battery life....
I'm running CM7 and battery life isn't that great.
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^THANKS^^ battery life on Simply honey 3.8 was pretty good....
This thread is a great idea, but let's put some numbers down rather then, "I get really good battery life!"
CM7: I get about 13 - 15 hours with minimal use on edge network.
Minimal use for me is about 2 or 3 phone calls about 30 seconds to a minute each. Less then ten text messages, very little to no web surfing. Check weather, look at news headlines.
Well, i have only tried CM7 and MIUI, wich is CM7 based, and to be honest, battery life is the reason that i came back to Froyo...just terrible batery life...i can't be charging my phone every 5-6 hours. On Froyo im using Super DragonModz on Project V, and i havent charged my phone in two days, and still its @ 25%...average/min use. Until GB gets good battery life, i might not be using another GB rom as a daily driver...
My battery just went down 2% on a 40 second phone call with my lady. Simply honey. It drains bad. This is my 4th cycle.
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My battery just went down 2% on a 40 second phone call with my lady. Simply honey. It drains bad. This is my 4th cycle.
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thats odd...have you tried doing a battery calibration....
anyways i get 10 hours on Revolution rom 2.0 with moderate use
moderate use -check xda couple times ,on h network always with background data ,some texting,3-4 30 second calls and ocing to 1.2ghz
Yea. I calibrated. I thought it was just a bad flash but after multiple flashes I had the same result.
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Blitzkrieg 18 to 20hrs moderate use 3-4 hrs screen time one.
Pretty good if u ask me.
Screenie attached 30% batt left. Calibrated two days ago.
With every type of battery caliberation it takes a few cycles of charges for it to actually work. I use sgs tools and apply script and that deletes battery bin files. But doing that is not gonna take effect right away i hope u guys know that.
Im on cm7 and my battery usage is better then i expected. With me using either google music or Audio galaxy streaming for a 8 hour workshift and texting and websurfing during a lunchbreak and when that shift is done i still have about 20-to 30 % left sometimes as high as 40% But if im not streaming music and just doing normal things like playing cut the rope and web surfing and emailing, texing etc i can go on all day with out a charge. So maybe u guys have a bad battery???
Simply honey 3.8 was eating up 3-4% per hour just idling and much more when actually bring used. Back to Trigger.
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simply honey 3.8 has really good battery life i get 19 hours moderate use with kb5 modem and OC'ed to 1.2 ghz
On Revolution Rom, I can get 16-17 hours of heavy use, which is flashing a new build almost every hour, going crazy on the battery life testing. But people have reported about 24 hours of battery with moderate use.
Asgard 3.0 and 3.1 Both are giving me 13-15 hours with moderate use gaming (my kid 45min-1 hour) internet use, tweeting, email and moderate to heavy phone use (20-40 calls per day) and 1 hour of tunein radio.
I got an average of 15 hours on Blitzkreig with 15-20 short (under 3 minute ) calls, 35-40 texts and an hour or so surfing.... plus a little gaming. I am at 5 hours on Asgard 3.1 and 78% battery.
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On Revolution Rom, I can get 16-17 hours of heavy use, which is flashing a new build almost every hour, going crazy on the battery life testing. But people have reported about 24 hours of battery with moderate use.
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I am running the Revolution Rom RC1 also and I'm getting about the same battery life. It's about the best that I have gotten on my phone, Bionix Final 2.1 aside. Great job, keep up the good work Ali.
Revolution ROM's battery life is pretty good.
Can't compare with others since I've just started flashing GB roms now (I had tried MIUI before but back then the battery sucked so much it doesnt even count)
thanks for starting this thread, it was just what i was looking for.
i used CM7 awhile ago and the battery life was pretty terrible so i switched back to froyo. so now i was looking around again for reports of battery life now after a couple months of waiting, and looks like its still pretty bad. i guess im still sticking with froyo.
but hey i still appreciate all the work the devs do to bring GB to the vibrant
with all the MINIMUM use or HEAVY use
can you guys post the screen on time with it to shows how heavy/ minimum you use....
I've been using Blitzkrieg for a week or so and at first it seemed really good but the last few days it has been draining fast for some reason. I also have had it reboot a couple of times while on the phone the last 2 days. I'm not sure if it's related....