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I think I bricked my nexus (my fault) please help!

Hello all,
I think I may have bricked my nexus one. It is completely my fault for attempting things that I knew little about, so flame away But after the flaming, if anyone is willing to help I would be sooooo thankfull...
I successfully rooted my phone following the instructions on this page: (all links edited with a double asterisk as I don't believe I can post links)
h**p://theunlockr.com/2010/01/02/how-to-root-the-nexus-one/
Then successfully installed cyanogenmod (which is awesome!) following this page:
h**p://theunlockr.com/2010/01/08/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-nexus-one/
All was well, I even got the modaco desire rom up and running, and was happily switching back and forth using the recovery screen. I had nand backups for specific setups, etc.
Then I decided it would be good to know how to go back to stock, and found this page:
h**p://**w.androidspin.com/2010/05/06/guide-unrooting-your-nexus-one-its-like-it-never-happened-almost/
I followed the instructions to the letter (I think) except for erasing userdata (it said "failed: remote not allowed"). I thought that things would be ok, since I'd recently wiped, so I followed the page till the end.
The phone rebooted, and I got the original nexus boot animation - but it's in an endless loop! What's worse, it that now when I try to go to the bootloader or recovery mode, I get the exclamation triangle with the little android.
Is there any way through a command prompt (or other method) that I can fix this? I tried to re-flash the RA recovery image through the command prompt, but the response was, "waiting for device."
ANYTHING that anyone can suggest to help, I would be so thankful! I've been loving the nexus, and hate to think that I crippled it
Thanks in advance,
Randy

I doubt its bricked.
Noticed you didnt mention that fast boot doesnt work? (power button+trackball) try it.
Once you get to fastboot you can flash any ROM back. (fastboot flash **** commands from a command shell)

Did you ever perform a Nand Backup from Recovery?

It's not bricked, the only way to brick is to interrupt power when flashing a Radio image

Connect phone to PC. Open command prompt.
adb reboot recovery
Wipe, reflash.

So far, nobody has managed to brick a Nexus. There is no way as the fastboot mode can restore the whole phone and can't be messed with. Make sure you have the latest version of the SDK with correct USB drivers and fastboot. Then try and reflash the recovery image.
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nexus5894 said:
So far, nobody has managed to brick a Nexus. There is no way as the fastboot mode can restore the whole phone and can't be messed with. Make sure you have the latest version of the SDK with correct USB drivers and fastboot. Then try and reflash the recovery image.
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Actually...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6320068&postcount=404

Paul22000 said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6320068&postcount=404
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It worked!!!!!
It worked!!
britoso, thank you soooooo much! The only way that I knew to get into bootloader/recovery was via power button/volume down, but power/trackball brought up the bootloader screen, and I clicked on fastboot. I was able to flash the RA recover image through the command terminal via fastboot, then able to get into recovery. I had cyan and modaco sense on the sd, and was able to flash one of them on.
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I never thought I'd be so happy to see "quietly brilliant"!!! I WILL buy you a beer, a case in fact as soon as money clears my paypal account.
I have learned my lesson, research research research. (I did do some, but not enough to feel comfortable with what I was doing - hence my cry for help!)
Other than the phone and OS itself, the thing I like most about the nexus is the fact that one CAN root, and then customize (sold a Telus moto droid because I could not do that very thing).
I digress... thanks again so much!
And Paul, thanks for your sense ROM; I've had HTC phones from the Touch to the the diamond to the Hero, and missed the UI!

Randy Malkoski said:
It worked!!
britoso, thank you soooooo much! The only way that I knew to get into bootloader/recovery was via power button/volume down, but power/trackball brought up the bootloader screen, and I clicked on fastboot. I was able to flash the RA recover image through the command terminal via fastboot, then able to get into recovery. I had cyan and modaco sense on the sd, and was able to flash one of them on.
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I never thought I'd be so happy to see "quietly brilliant"!!! I WILL buy you a beer, a case in fact as soon as money clears my paypal account.
I have learned my lesson, research research research. (I did do some, but not enough to feel comfortable with what I was doing - hence my cry for help!)
Other than the phone and OS itself, the thing I like most about the nexus is the fact that one CAN root, and then customize (sold a Telus moto droid because I could not do that very thing).
I digress... thanks again so much!
And Paul, thanks for your sense ROM; I've had HTC phones from the Touch to the the diamond to the Hero, and missed the UI!
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Glad to hear it. You learn the most by trial and error.

I think i got the same problem. i tried to Unlock Bootloader and Root Google Nexus One which was successful but then i tried to superboot it and when it came to the part where you "double click the ‘install-superboot-windows.bat’ file" i clicked it but it did not go to the nnext screen where the superboot completes it just stayed at the "bootloader screen". i must hve not done something or done something wrong i dont know.
So then i unplugged the phone from the pc and rebooted it. when it reeboted i wasnt getting any network, the phone was slow and the notification bar would not slide down...also i noticed the phone restarting on itself...
/i tried all kinds of "restore to factory settings" but not solved. Can anyone tell me what to do tht will work. I coud not understand what was said in the above thread as i am new to this android n my first time rooting n stuff n i believe that solution would work for me too..if some one could please explain in simple tirms the steps i need to take would be good...
Really appreciate it....

revonomics said:
I think i got the same problem. i tried to Unlock Bootloader and Root Google Nexus One which was successful but then i tried to superboot it and when it came to the part where you "double click the ‘install-superboot-windows.bat’ file" i clicked it but it did not go to the nnext screen where the superboot completes it just stayed at the "bootloader screen". i must hve not done something or done something wrong i dont know.
So then i unplugged the phone from the pc and rebooted it. when it reeboted i wasnt getting any network, the phone was slow and the notification bar would not slide down...also i noticed the phone restarting on itself...
/i tried all kinds of "restore to factory settings" but not solved. Can anyone tell me what to do tht will work. I coud not understand what was said in the above thread as i am new to this android n my first time rooting n stuff n i believe that solution would work for me too..if some one could please explain in simple tirms the steps i need to take would be good...
Really appreciate it....
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Tell me what i need to download again and how to go about it...i really need my phone working again ((((

Major Brick!!

Hi all!
Seriously in need of some expert help from your kind selves. Basically my phone is rooted with custom roms. I'm needing to try to get it back to normal as it has developed a hardware fault in the way that the volume key doesn't work, more so the down volume. Sometimes the up volume works when it feels like it. The camera itself has also been playing up and not working at times (not sure if this would be hardware related). As you can guess I'm wanting to get the phone repaired under warranty. The major headache comes when I need to get into the bootloader and I can't with the down button not working. Earlier I flashed a different kernel and when the phone went to reboot all hell broke loose. I'm currently stuck on the white screen with HTC logo. So without getting into the bootloader to try to recover I'm in serious bother! I tried this link and followed all the steps but in the end it just kept giving me an unknown error message
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841890
I'm just trying to get the phone back up and running and then will take it from there to return it back to stock if possible. One thing I didn't try was the fact I have a 1.84 rom on and tried to flash with 1.72. May well try a 1.84 later on when I get the chance.
I hope you basically understand what I've done and what I'm trying to achieve and the problems I've got.
Thanks in advance if you can provide any solutions or ideas to try.

oooo boi thats gota hurt... but dont worry.. download "quickboot" from the market with it u can go to bootloader and cmw recovery .. about the rest.. i didnt get it.. u have 1.72 stock ruu and u want to get 1.84 ? why not just use 1.32 old rom and send it back repair guys ?

Find the downgrade thread in the Dev section, download the PD98IMG.zip from that thread. Put that on your SDcard.
Now you want to boot into bootloader which maybe difficult given your button predicament. I am sure there must be a fastboot/adb command to do this, possibly
fastboot reboot-bootloader
The bootloader should read and flash the PD98IMG.zip automatically, returning you to stock.

Hi mate. I had same problem my volume buttons don't work at all but i managed to flash latest recovery witch let's you scroll with home button don't no if this helps but try it

Thanks guys for trying to help. Leatherface I'm stuck on the white boot screen with htc logo and it won't go any further so can't get into market to download any apps. Or is the program you're talking about available for pc? I have custom roms on and not stock but want to put stock back on to send in for repair.
AndyHarney I will try your advice later but obviously as soon as I turn phone on it goes straight to the boot screen so I really can't see how I could get into the bootloader any other way but I may be wrong. Hopefully I am!!
Biggy I did flash with the latest CWM right before it went beserk but still no way of getting into bootloader.
I'm off for an Easter drink now to take my mind off it coz it's stressing me out and will return soon to butcher my phone a little more lol
Happy Easter

Of course, to use fastboot you need to be in fastboot in the bootloader.
Using the app Leather|Face mentioned, is there an option to boot into bootloader?
Anyways, enjoy your bank holiday.

thegeordiehunk said:
Thanks guys for trying to help. Leatherface I'm stuck on the white boot screen with htc logo and it won't go any further so can't get into market to download any apps. Or is the program you're talking about available for pc? I have custom roms on and not stock but want to put stock back on to send in for repair.
AndyHarney I will try your advice later but obviously as soon as I turn phone on it goes straight to the boot screen so I really can't see how I could get into the bootloader any other way but I may be wrong. Hopefully I am!!
Biggy I did flash with the latest CWM right before it went beserk but still no way of getting into bootloader.
I'm off for an Easter drink now to take my mind off it coz it's stressing me out and will return soon to butcher my phone a little more lol
Happy Easter
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as long as the rom ur using is not cynogenmod7... ur warranty isnt void my friend
did u try to re-flash a rom ? trying flashing a fresh rom.. full wipe ur phone before.. bellow in atttachment is full wipe.. download it extact it and put "full wipe 1.3" in ur sd card.. and put a rom there too.. then boot into recovery.. 1st do a full wipe.. then flash the rom.. see if that solves ur problem doode..
Edit : aaa crap.. i forgot u cant go into bootloader.. :|
Edit 2 : the guy 2 posts above said that u can use ur home key to navigate thro recovery... maybe u could use it for booting it to boot loader too.. donno lemme try if that can happen
Edit 3 : no that didnt work... btw abt 6 months back... on my samsung galaxy s... volume keys wudnt work so i couldnt get into recovery to get make to stock rom because i was using custom roms... i cudnt do anything and i was still under warrantly. so i perposly bricked ma phone to the extent that no matter wat u do with it, it wudnt switch on.. and i was sent a new one

If you are trying to get into bootloader another way worked for me but maybe not every. Body is to flash a new splash with android flasher then pull cable at correct moment when it boots into fastboot briefly. He'll it works for me LOL

biggy81168 said:
If you are trying to get into bootloader another way worked for me but maybe not every. Body is to flash a new splash with android flasher then pull cable at correct moment when it boots into fastboot briefly. He'll it works for me LOL
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thanks for letting me knw man... i cud use that if nothing else is possible lol

my down volume key does not work either, and i have had difficulty with this.
i have just tried to install a theme, and reboot and it was stuck on white htc screen.
plugged phone into computer, use adb reboot bootloader and load up recovery from there..

I flashed a full wipe zip by mistake and with no volume buttons i thought i was screwed but after two days trying i found i could only go back to stock 132 every thing else would fail?

For anyone who is in this predicament, if you can't or are unwilling to use adb, then if you download and install Droid Explorer, there is the option to boot into bootloader, flash other ROMs and loads more besides.

Nope... u just need. To. Root and eng s off and s off again...then ur back in business
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like someone said before, you can access the phone with adb and forget about touching the controls on the actual phone, it can go into bootloader, and from there i guess you can reflash or recover your stock rom
adb is more simple than it sounds, it's just sort of like remote control via the computer

I've tried adb fastboot as suggested but all it says is <waiting for device>. I've tried plugging device in and turning it on both before and after entering this command but the phone just immediately goes to the white HTC screen. Also tried Droid Explorer as suggested but I can't even get that to install as it throws up an error message during install!! I'm not having a good time with this phone at the moment lol

If you downloaded the PD98IMG.zip from the downgrade thread, and download Quick Boot from the market.
Put the zip on your SDcard and use Quick Boot to get to the bootloader. From there is should be an automated process, and your phone will be restored to HTC stock.

I'm unable to get into the market to download anything since the phone doesn't boot

Ok I'm back in business. Just managed to flash a clean rom. Some nice chappy on another thread was also having the exact same problems as me and he managed to sort it out and helped me. The commands are ADB REBOOT RECOVERY or ADB REBOOT-BOOTLOADER. I was typing FASTBOOT REBOOT-BOOTLOADER as mentioned in an earlier post and wasn't getting anywhere.
However I'd like to thank you all for your efforts and now I should be able to return the phone to stock and get it shipped off for repair with peace of mind that they won't whinge that the warranty is null and void.

Leather|Face said:
Edit 3 : no that didnt work... btw abt 6 months back... on my samsung galaxy s... volume keys wudnt work so i couldnt get into recovery to get make to stock rom because i was using custom roms... i cudnt do anything and i was still under warrantly. so i perposly bricked ma phone to the extent that no matter wat u do with it, it wudnt switch on.. and i was sent a new one
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Luckly you didnt do above method..lol
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naimmkassim said:
Luckly you didnt do above method..lol
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ROFLMAO !

[Q] stuck in boot loop; tried just about everything

I've been ROM-hopping, trying Synergy, Alliance, Myn, and several others. On the last one, MikG 2.3, I had it loaded up and working fine. I started installing apps from the Android Market. That, too, was going fine, until it suddenly rebooted in the middle of an app download/install.
It went to the white screen with HTC EVO 4G on it, and then went black, then back to the white screen, over and over.
Six hours later, I'm still stuck in the loop. To make matters worse, I accidentally lost root (I see "S-ON" at the top). So now I'm stuck without root until GB is rooted successfully, which hopefully isn't tooooo far off in the future.
But that's the least of my concerns. I would be extremely happy with a stock install of any sort at this point, but I can't get anything to load. No recovery, no ROMs, but I can get into HBOOT so I'm able to try to load any PC36IMG.zip files. The last one I tried was the "PC36IMG_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.24.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.05.02_NV_2.15_release_199233_signed.zip" (renamed to just PC36IMG.zip, of course). It appears to load just fine and in the end says "Update Complete... Do you want to reboot device?"
I choose yes, it reboots... and we're back in the loop. I have no idea what to do or try at this point. Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated! My next step is to take it to the Sprint store, but that's over an hour away and will have to wait till the weekend.
Thanks everyone!! If you need any more information, let me know. Believe me, I'll be monitoring this thread closely!
/Kevin

I'm sure uve heard this before and prob won't work but worth a try....try reformatting ur SD card and then flashing the file in bootliader again. Could be a corrupt SD card

Papa Smurf151 said:
I'm sure uve heard this before and prob won't work but worth a try....try reformatting ur SD card and then flashing the file in bootliader again. Could be a corrupt SD card
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Yeah, I tried. I have several SD cards of varying sizes (4GB, 8GB, and my primary 16GB). Formatted the 4- and 8GB ones and tried from each, but no go. Thanks for the try though!
/Kevin

Reset phone to recovery (stock), choose fastboot. Plug in USB to computer.
Look for the correct ruu exe file and ruu it via exe method

trim81 said:
Reset phone to recovery (stock), choose fastboot. Plug in USB to computer.
Look for the correct ruu exe file and ruu it via exe method
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Just did it and the process went well, said it was successful... but it's still stuck in the same loop. I'm thinking the phone is beyond repair. Thanks for trying, though. It really looked like it might work for a second.
/Kevin

what was the app?

That's what I want to know and how do you get accidentally to S-On?

Put the phone in a refrigerator ... as crazy as it sounds, it might be the infamous overheating issue.
Put in refrigerator, for about 5min

The app was "Kid Zone" (Zoodles), but I'm not blaming the app by any means. I've used it for a long time, it's highly-rated in the market, etc. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
As far as getting back to S-ON, I think it must have been when I flashed the stock recovery. I was flashing so many things out of desperation that I can't swear to that, but I'm pretty sure that's what did it. Now that it looks like I'm heading to the Sprint store tomorrow, I guess it's a GOOD thing it's back to S-ON. Heh.
Pretty sure it's not heat-related. My phone was off all night (since it's not usable) in an air conditioned room, so it's cool to the touch. I tried the RUU process again with the same results. (I'm not sticking it in the refrigerator, because I'm afraid of activating the water-damage sensor -- I don't want any excuses from Sprint when I bring it in tomorrow!)
Appreciate the help!!
/Kevin

That sucks, but tbh, I have yet to see one case of anyone at Sprint checking a bootloader to see if a phone is S-On. MOF, I bet if it doesn't boot at all, or is a stock ROM , they wouldn't even know the difference.

HipKat said:
That sucks, but tbh, I have yet to see one case of anyone at Sprint checking a bootloader to see if a phone is S-On. MOF, I bet if it doesn't boot at all, or is a stock ROM , they wouldn't even know the difference.
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I hear ya. I haven't run into any techs at my local stores that are knowledgeable about this kind of stuff. (I know others have, so you never know, but I have yet to see one.)
/Kevin

To conclude this: I went to the Sprint store today where they assured me they would reload the software but it would take 1.5 hours. I came back 1.5 hours later... and they handed me a new (refurb) EVO. They said they weren't able to load anything on the phone.
So, no surprise with the outcome there. I was fairly certain they were going to have to replace the EVO, and they did.
Thanks to everyone who tried to help, but it was just beyond help!
/Kevin

I had that same problem with my phone back in November. Continues boot loop. Finally, having boot loop for 8hrs, I took it to Sprint and they replaced my phone. They called it a power cycle issue. $35 new refurbished phone works well. Never had a problem since.

Is there any way to use fastboot to access phone and fix bootloop?

I've searched and searched but I think the answer is no. I had an earlier post, but now I know the only way will be through fastboot since it is s-on so no point in putting any PC36IMG file on the root of the sd card. There was an unbrick program that seemed to connect, but I don't think it did anything, but it seemed to access the phone since it showed the phone in the C prompt. Just wondering if there is anything out there like "Evo_Brickfix" that uses fastboot. Thanks
Edit: I found a one click fast boot fix for bootlooping another android phone. I wonder if it can be adapted for the evo or maybe it is made for rooted phone that have s-off

I was just told, that, if you can get into flashboot, then you can do anything.
Like usb toggle and use an RUU file from your pc.
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eggsack said:
I was just told, that, if you can get into flashboot, then you can do anything.
Like usb toggle and use an RUU file from your pc.
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If you mean fastboot then that would be great. I'll have to read up or look for someone going over how to use RUU. Thanks

eggsack said:
I was just told, that, if you can get into flashboot, then you can do anything.
Like usb toggle and use an RUU file from your pc.
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Ok so I searched and found an RUU exe file that actually put a different new stock ROM, but it still boot loops. When I'm in the bootloader I can see that the HBOOT is updated from .79 to 2.4 and the date has changed to 2011 versus 2010 so I know it RUUed in just fine. Now I just need an RUU file that will fix the recovery or something besides the ROM?
Edit: ok after I took battery out and boot it up this morning 8 hrs ago it didn't boot loop as of now isn't boot looping. So maybe it needed to power down and whatever was boot looping needed to reset. Maybe while it's working I should s-off it. Does anyone know what will root it with newer ROM? It is dated August 2011 SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.24.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.05.02_NV_2.15_release_199233_signed. Is there even a ROOT for it now. I'll google to see.

It started bootlooping again =(. I went ahead and use REVOLUTIONARY to s-off it and install a recovery. I put the same ROM I have on my evo, Kings Shooter something something, but then it looped even worse, so I put another ROM that was only 200mb versus 333mb. It is Team Nocturnal 4.54 something something and is working fine so far. Maybe my Kings Shooter is corrupted since I've moved it around from computer to computer. I can't imagine how a different rom would fix the bootloop, but maybe when you load another rom it fixes whatever is corrupt and causing the phone to go into looping. Something else I noticed, when I would leave the phone with no battery for hours, it would then boot up fine and run for a lil bit then boot again and get worse. So maybe it loaded something into memory that when left with no battery wasn't present to start with but after being powered, then stayed on. In fact, when it is boot looping, all I needed to do was put the battery back in and it would start again without me even having to press the on button. Oh, well hopefully it is working fine now. But in case anyone searches and finds this thread they can see my specific problem and solution and maybe it can help someone else.

Semi-bricked DHD

Evening all,
I have a DHD that is stuck in HBOOT/FASTBOOT, or at least that and the stock recovery program is all I can get to.
I tried an AAHK, and it basically tried to do a downgrade and has left the phone with no data, still at s-on, and I can't find an operator RUU(three uk) to flash it back to a useable state.
Is there a three RUU available?
I'm running around in circles as I can't make a gold card, due to not having another DHD available to retrieve the MMC2. All I need is a goldcard and then I can flash a WWE, but I cant find anywhere to make one without the phone or a similar one.
I dont think it turned the microsd properly into a gc, before it tried to downgrade. Is their anyway I can test to see if the memory card has been successfully goldcarded?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
James

This might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29203392
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Teichopsia said:
This might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29203392
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Mine has a lot of those symptoms to be honest. If I vol down/power to get to Hboot, it sits there with no keys being able to be pressed, just highlighted blue FASTBOOT and not even checking for files on memory card
If I just turn it on, it sits at the three splash screen, which i assume is the equivalent of the HTC one for branded phones.
I have now turned it on and left it on as per those linked threads, in the hopes the sd is a proper gold card and it is just slow. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for the pointer
James

There are many threads for your problem, do a search, check what it might be. I believe in the second page of that link has another link, check it out. Find out what is wrong before trying anything. If you have any questions, let us know what are the symptoms, what you have done and so on.
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Teichopsia said:
There are many threads for your problem, do a search, check what it might be. I believe in the second page of that link has another link, check it out. Find out what is wrong before trying anything. If you have any questions, let us know what are the symptoms, what you have done and so on.
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Well what I did, was follow the AAHK instructions, cleaned up my environment etc, went through the install. When it asked to do the downgrade, I said yes, then it asked about wiping and was I sure, so I said yes. It then rebooted the phone and it is now as it is. I pulled the battery and tried vol-down/power, which brings up HBOOT, but it doesnt let me do anything, vol keys and power do not work and it doesnt start looking for image files.
From that thread, it was mentioned it just could be going very slow, and people have just left it overnight. This is what I have done now, and will see if it has accessed the files on the memory card and downgraded properly in the morning.
Thanks
James

Have you tried looking for the RUU here?
Last I remember when aahk downgrades, you will be asked to reboot to basic recovery twice

Panic over, thankfully! Not my phone, you see!
It was so easy to root my S2 and the X10 before that, and the iP3G before that(and custom winmo, and nokia etc etc), I said give it to me, i'll sort you out with some ICS rom action.
Then it all went wrong as explained in my previous posts.
2 days later, i finally found the H3G RUU I needed to get an system on it. Silly branded phones. Took 4 hours to download as it was on a throttled download service(my 100MB leased line usually eats 300MB in seconds, but not this time)
So long story short, into FASTBOOT USB, ran the RUU and it completed and put froyo on the phone, and as a happy coincidence it was at a level that didn't need a downgrade, so AAHK ran through like a trooper, busybox installed and hey presto, ENG S-OFF. IceColdSandwich installed through cwm and one happy mate, who then proceeded to ring his wife and tell her to rent a film, as he would be tinkering with the phone all night lol
It was getting to the point I was going to have to give him my S2, and as I've just taken possession of a Sony SmartWatch, I didn't want to do that!!
Thank for everyone's help and pointers, not sure what went wrong the first time(probably a memory card/incompatibility/goldcard problem), but all sorted now.
James