[Q] Is the Kindle Fire still "hackable"? - Kindle Fire General

Hi!
I have read a few posts about the Kindle fire now being locked from rooting(if I have understood them correctly).
As I have an unopened device at home that I'm givning myself for christmas I have a few questions.
1. Is there an update that makes my untouched Kindle Fire un-rootable?
2. Will this update install automatically when connected to Wi-Fi?
3. Is it the bootloader that is locked or will it be rootable/able to install other ROM's in the future?
Would very much appreciate if someone took some time and answered these questions. I would also appreciate if someone could make some kind of summary. Read a lot on the forum but i am still a bit confused about the current status.
/Masssy
Edit: Read on some more about it and I believe that is is thr 6.2.1 update that screws things up.
Does that make me able to not enable Wi-Fi and then flash CM7 before even using WiFi on the device? That should make it fully hackable with ICS etc in the future, right?

Masssy said:
Hi!
I have read a few posts about the Kindle fire now being locked from rooting(if I have understood them correctly).
As I have an unopened device at home that I'm givning myself for christmas I have a few questions.
1. Is there an update that makes my untouched Kindle Fire un-rootable?
2. Will this update install automatically when connected to Wi-Fi?
3. Is it the bootloader that is locked or will it be rootable/able to install other ROM's in the future?
Would very much appreciate if someone took some time and answered these questions. I would also appreciate if someone could make some kind of summary. Read a lot on the forum but i am still a bit confused about the current status.
/Masssy
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If it was me i would root it and install titanium using ADB before i connect it to wifi then freeze or uninstall the otasilentinstall app.
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you could rename or move the OTA certs, and change the hosts file as well if your paranoid about it.
apparantly they are pushing the update even if the device isnt registered with amazon.
Check this thread

6.2.1 breaks root and prevents the only method anybody has used so far. Another method will most likely surface. That said, there is a pre-rooted 6.2.1 ROM, the Fire semi supports android market in Silk in the latest update, and installing CM7 totally gets rid of any Amazon stuff.
You’re best bet is to disable wifi or block the amazon server in your host file.

Winglerw28 said:
6.2.1 breaks root and prevents the only method anybody has used so far. Another method will most likely surface. That said, there is a pre-rooted 6.2.1 ROM, the Fire semi supports android market in Silk in the latest update, and installing CM7 totally gets rid of any Amazon stuff.
You’re best bet is to disable wifi or block the amazon server in your host file.
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I'm going to open it up when I am away for christmas. Although, I have no use for starting to use WiFi on it that day.
Just keeping WiFi off and then root+CM7 directly when I'm home should be smartest, right?
Edit: I'm not after the Amazon crap anyway since I'm from Sweden.

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[Q] How to protect against future OTA update?

Now that I've got my kindle rooted and running very nicely, just how I like it, I want to protect against future updates, as the last OTA blew away my root and there's supposedly a new OTA coming before Christmas. Just in case it disables the ability to re-root using SuperOneClick, I'd prefer to keep it from updating until others have tested it.
There are other threads that talk about this, however, nothing has really been tested to actually work yet. Won't really know until the next update.
Sorry, didn't mean to post a dupe thread, I didn't find any definitive answer in the others; I guess that's because there aren't any yet
There was one speculating about renaming a file, maybe I'll go ahead and try that. I did install OTA Rootkeeper but who knows what will come with that next update and whether that will be enough.
krelvinaz said:
There are other threads that talk about this, however, nothing has really been tested to actually work yet. Won't really know until the next update.
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A custom recovery would help i bet. it appears that when an update is ran it boots into the factory recovery (which you cant see).
Well the only way I know for sure is to have a fire which is not registered, and there is a way to have an unregistered fire and still use the amazon services, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385301 . You can always download and update manually if the update is found to be harmless.

How likely will 6.2.1 get root?

I know there are rooted 6.2.1 roms for those who currently have root but how likely is it that there will be a method to root for those with 6.2.1 stock? I am getting a Fire for Christmas and I am hoping it was boxed up before 6.2.1 was released but in the event that it comes with the update I want to root.
Most of the units shipping now were built a while ago. They most likely have 6.0 or perhaps 6.1 on them. When you first start them up and turn in WiFi, they will auto update to the current version then.
So the key is to not turn on WiFi until you have rooted and updated to the 6.2.1 rooted image.
As for root for stock 6.2.1.. hopefully soon.
SirVilhelm said:
I know there are rooted 6.2.1 roms for those who currently have root but how likely is it that there will be a method to root for those with 6.2.1 stock? I am getting a Fire for Christmas and I am hoping it was boxed up before 6.2.1 was released but in the event that it comes with the update I want to root.
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You should try to block all amazon associated hostnames in your router. But, I recommend you turn off wifi when you unbox it. Root it, install FIREFIREFIRE with TWRP and install Voodo OTA Rootkeeper to backup root. The Voodoo method might or might not work but certainly worth the try!
You can also try to de-register the kindle from your account. However, you will lose all of Amazon's perks.
I can confirm that Voodo OTA Rootkeeper will NOT retain root. I had 6.2 rooted and OTA RK installed. Last night the kindle got updated to 6.2.1 while I was sleeping. Woke up, root is gone .. and can't recover using OTA RK.
krelvinaz said:
Most of the units shipping now were built a while ago. They most likely have 6.0 or perhaps 6.1 on them. When you first start them up and turn in WiFi, they will auto update to the current version then.
So the key is to not turn on WiFi until you have rooted and updated to the 6.2.1 rooted image.
As for root for stock 6.2.1.. hopefully soon.
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Got my Fire yesterday, can say that it came with 6.1 on it, then updated to 6.2, and then, even after I deleted OTASilentupdate.apk (or whatever it is), it still updated to 6.2.1 when I put it down for 5 minutes
jlocohustler said:
You should try to block all amazon associated hostnames in your router. But, I recommend you turn off wifi when you unbox it. Root it, install FIREFIREFIRE with TWRP and install Voodo OTA Rootkeeper to backup root. The Voodoo method might or might not work but certainly worth the try!
You can also try to de-register the kindle from your account. However, you will lose all of Amazon's perks.
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If you rename com.amazon.dcp.apk to com.amazon.dcp.apk.bak you can still use all of you amazon apps without having the fire registered.
Why not buy it, when starting, turn off wifi, root it, install TWRP, install the rooted version of 6.2.1 from the development thread, and call it a day....
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Cm7 is the way forward loving it would never go back to kindle stock and it was easy as 123 to do.
To answer the OP's question, the probability of 6.2.1 being root is tremendously high, but it may take a while.
As for alternatives, CM7 is now running totally smooth with the exception of mac issues (easily fixed by an ADB command), and 6.2.1's browser allows the installation of APKs from the market if you download them via the Silk browser. No root needed!
Google just patched the exploit used to root. With ICS being released it might take a little longer to find another exploit, but I would expect gingerbread to have another root method.
Sent from my Kindle Fire

KFSOWI: update despite host file manipulation

Hello,
My system underwent an fireos update to. 11.3.2.1 despite manipulation of the hosts file. I will try rerooting my device using known methods as soon as I get home and keep you updated.
jonathanlyng said:
Hello,
My system underwent an fireos update to. 11.3.2.1 despite manipulation of the hosts file. I will try rerooting my device using known methods as soon as I get home and keep you updated.
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Same here ... any luck with re-rooting?
Danged Amazon and their OTA
jonathanlyng said:
Hello,
My system underwent an fireos update to. 11.3.2.1 despite manipulation of the hosts file.
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Same here. I suppose I'll patiently wait for the next iteration of rooting this one. And hopefully a good way to stop the OTA updates from Amazon. If anyone reads this and knows of anything I can do in the way of offering files from my now unrooted device (ADB still connects at user level), I'll be glad to help the cause.
On the bright side, most stuff I've done works fine without root. I didn't bother with Google Play because that hadn't been perfected and the 1 Mobile Market seems to work fine, as well as side loading.
If you feel like it you can downgrade your is now, there no utility to do it for you yet, but the images are there now so you can flash the older pre-rooted system and boot image from fastboot and it should do the trick, just figure out a way to keep it from updating as well.
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Sorry about that
chalid said:
Same here ... any luck with re-rooting?
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I didn't have spare time yet. I'm gonna try whenever, I get some gadget time.
Downgrading? It would be worthwhile if I knew the push server's IP; and it's clearly not any of those that have roamed the net. There is a stray IP that hasn't been identified yet. downgrading and keeping the system offline or under a low battery level is too anoying to be worthwhile IMHO.
But those who want may try to proxy their wifi connection through their computer, downgrade their device, leave it alone and check in their proxy logs to pinpoint which IP is uploading the update to their device. Re-downgrade, root, re-wall their device.I'll try this but I won't be able to do it within the next few days.
In the meantime, gotta go.
Couldn't you just leave an adb shell running on the PC while running a continuous netstat?
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stunts513 said:
Couldn't you just leave an adb shell running on the PC while running a continuous netstat?
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Oh... yes, obviously... *puts on dunce hat*
BTW: such a thing might not be necessary, as I read on the HDX forum this about said update:
"It now appears that renaming or removing com.amazon.dcp.apk stops Amazon ota updates. Ex. com.amazon.dcp.apk.old"
jonathanlyng said:
Oh... yes, obviously... *puts on dunce hat*
BTW: such a thing might not be necessary, as I read on the HDX forum this about said update:
"It now appears that renaming or removing com.amazon.dcp.apk stops Amazon ota updates. Ex. com.amazon.dcp.apk.old"
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Yeah I've done something like that (on the 2012 model), but instead I used Android Firewall to block it from using Wi-Fi, no OTA updates now, been good for months
Seems the best way to prevent updates.
stunts513 said:
If you feel like it you can downgrade your is now, there no utility to do it for you yet, but the images are there now so you can flash the older pre-rooted system and boot image from fastboot and it should do the trick, just figure out a way to keep it from updating as well.
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I presume the files you speak of are:
boot0block.zip img CRC = AA7AB538
stock-boot.zip img CRC = DF69BAA8
stock-recovery.zip img CRC = B95DDD44
stock-system.zip img CRC = CA6A9595
But NOT the boot0block.zip img because that's specific to the individual's device. I thought about doing this, but admittedly, was a little uncertain. I don't want to brick it. Basically, if I fastboot, I can push those images over safely? I presume I'd want to have my wireless turned off in advance of this operation, lest I end up exactly where I began with the thing wanting to update right away again.
Thanks much for the feedback!
kfsowi 11.3.2.1
hello people,
this is my first post here love the site, anyways anything yet that can be done about kfsowi on 11.3.2.1 yet can it be rooted or downgraded so i could get my root back.
thanks
SOLUTION!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544736&page=30#post_message_50878798
Courtesy of GranPC
Fastboot cable
where is the best and fastest way to get a fastboot cable online or in a store.
thank you
louiep said:
where is the best and fastest way to get a fastboot cable online or in a store.
thank you
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From Amazon.COM though they are quite easy to make
Sent from my KFSOWI using xda app-developers app

FireOS 5.3.1.1 is coming - root 5.3.1 ASAP & disable OTA !!!

I've glanced at the updates for the latest Fire HD 8 2016 model, and it has version 5.3.1.1 already available :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202073860
So if history is any guide, all the other Fires will see the same update real soon now ...
Use the latest Kingroot to root FireOS 5.3.1, and disable OTA !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/root-t3471289
How do I remove ota Updates?
I renamed 2 APKs now when I check for updates it reports "Failed" am I Fine?
I want to switch to CM12.1 but I am afraid to try the method for 5.1.2 someone said it is the same procedure but I am not yet srue.
and I need to pay for Super Sume I guess.
so At least can someone clear out how we disable ota updates? I don't trust PM hide method, Renamed some apk but I am not sure if it worked.
-Yami- said:
How do I remove ota Updates?
I renamed 2 APKs now when I check for updates it reports "Failed" am I Fine?
I want to switch to CM12.1 but I am afraid to try the method for 5.1.2 someone said it is the same procedure but I am not yet srue.
and I need to pay for Super Sume I guess.
so At least can someone clear out how we disable ota updates? I don't trust PM hide method, Renamed some apk but I am not sure if it worked.
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You could use rootjunky's supertool but if it already says failed it should be fine
tonibm19 said:
You could use rootjunky's supertool but if it already says failed it should be fine
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thanks I'll go ahead and also apply rootjunkies supertool method, I wasnt sure if it gonna work on 5.3.1 so didn't try.
Just to make sure I am not letting it connect to internet, switching to CM12.1 will be the best.
-Yami- said:
How do I remove ota Updates?
I renamed 2 APKs now when I check for updates it reports "Failed" am I Fine?
I want to switch to CM12.1 but I am afraid to try the method for 5.1.2 someone said it is the same procedure but I am not yet srue.
and I need to pay for Super Sume I guess.
so At least can someone clear out how we disable ota updates? I don't trust PM hide method, Renamed some apk but I am not sure if it worked.
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Really need to take a step back and review the documentation that has already been posted starting with the forum index . Tons of relevant material. The SuperTool should handle everything you need in advance of flashing a new ROM if that's your objective:
- SuperTool can disable OTAs, replace KingUser with SuperSU and perform a host of other useful tasks
- "renamed some apk" is not helpful; details matter
- don't need to pay for anything beyond the device itself
- if still worried about OTA updates turn off WiFi and keep reading on another device
Davey126 said:
Really need to take a step back and review the documentation that has already been posted starting with the forum index . Tons of relevant material. The SuperTool should handle everything you need in advance of flashing a new ROM if that's your objective:
- SuperTool can disable OTAs, replace KingUser with SuperSU and perform a host of other useful tasks
- "renamed some apk" is not helpful; details matter
- don't need to pay for anything beyond the device itself
- if still worried about OTA updates turn off WiFi and keep reading on another device
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I am aware of supertool, I was not sure if it gonna work on 5.3.1 or not and someone said he switched using super sume so it was paid.
I renamed otaverifier.apk and devicesoftwareota.apk
I'll go ahead and use supetool thank you.
edit:
I got an option:
1 block OTA updates from Amazon 5.0.1
2 block OTA updates from Amazon on 5.1.1 and 5.1.2
so this was why I avoided this tool, not sure which one to use and not sure if it gonna brake something or not because I am on 5.3.1
I'll go ahead and read .bat file.
edit2:
found these lines
files\adb.exe shell pm hide com.amazon.otaverifier
files\adb.exe shell pm hide com.amazon.device.software.ota
files\adb.exe shell pm hide com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
Renamed those APKs.
but the tool also have this:
files\adb.exe shell su -c "rm -r /system/app/otaverifier"
files\adb.exe shell su -c "rm -r /system/priv-app/DeviceSoftwareOTA"
files\adb.exe shell su -c "rm -r /system/priv-app/SystemUpdatesUI"
so these are responsible APKs, I missed out "SystemUpdatesUI" on my first try thanks to this tool now I know what do rename.
I must be safe now I guess, it is not going to download and replace those bcz I didnt use PM-Hide.
edit:
I also cannot find any option to convert from kingroot to SuperSu in supertool.
at least not in its menu.
-Yami- said:
I am aware of supertool, I was not sure if it gonna work on 5.3.1 or not and someone said he switched using super sume so it was paid.
I renamed otaverifier.apk and devicesoftwareota.apk
I'll go ahead and use supetool thank you.
edit:
I got an option:
1 block OTA updates from Amazon 5.0.1
2 block OTA updates from Amazon on 5.1.1 and 5.1.2
so this was why I avoided this tool, not sure which one to use and not sure if it gonna brake something or not because I am on 5.3.1
I'll go ahead and read .bat file.
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- devicesoftwareota.apk is the operative file; just make sure it does not end in .apk
- as noted in numerous recent posts follow the procedures for 5.1.2 with 5.3.1
- if you can read/interpret the .bat file then none of this should be a mystery; the SuperTool simply automates a number of relatively trivial tasks that can be performed manually if desired (taking nothing away from the SuperTool; it is a fantastic resource for a huge community of individuals who have benefited from the selfless individual who authored it; props to @tomstg, a.k.a. Root Junkie!).
- if you have a question, ask; just be sure you have done your homework first given the vast pool of resource that is already out there; no interest in repackging what has already been written; props to @sd_shadow who tirelessly collects information from contributors and and assembles guides for YOUR benefit.
- if still uncertain shelve the device for a few weeks until the dust settles given the recent (<48 hours old) discovery that 5.3.1 can be rooted
Can 5.3.1.1 be downgraded to 5.3.1.0?
Danny1976 said:
Can 5.3.1.1 be downgraded to 5.3.1.0?
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Unknown but assume not unless posted otherwise. Only way to know is someone tries it and scores success or a brick.
I got my Fire HD8 (6th gen/2016) and the update for 5.3.1.1 is available. Still hasnt updated, I turned it off now. I cannot root 6th gen HD8 and I dont know of any methods that prevent the OTA update without root. Help
Edit: ops, I fail at navigating the xda forum apparently. I didn't see im in the wrong section.
I guess a benefit of the having a low end device like the Fire 7" is that they receive updates later than other devices. So you are aware of problems related to rooting early.
Anyways I ordered a Fire at Amazon Germany that arrived today and was initially shipped with Firmware 5.0.1.
I wonder why they still ship out devices with such old firmware. But tht's good for us
sebr said:
I guess a benefit of the having a low end device like the Fire 7" is that they receive updates later than other devices. So you are aware of problems related to rooting early.
Anyways I ordered a Fire at Amazon Germany that arrived today and was initially shipped with Firmware 5.0.1.
I wonder why they still ship out devices with such old firmware. But tht's good for us
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You know the drill - root and protect that bootloader before connecting to WiFi! Or take the express route and boot directly into fastboot via <power>+<vol-down>, fire up TWRP and have your way with a custom ROM. Bounce back if you need any help with procedures.
Yeah no worries CM12 already running on it. But what is different in Bootloader versions past 5.0.1? I thought the bootloader is locked anyways - regardless of what firmware version is used - and cannot be flashed.
sebr said:
Yeah no worries CM12 already running on it. But what is different in Bootloader versions past 5.0.1? I thought the bootloader is locked anyways - regardless of what firmware version is used - and cannot be flashed.
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5.0.x bootloader allows a custom recovery (eg: twrp) to be booted from fastboot. Nothing like a true recovery to expedite flashes and recover from missteps.
Yeah.... I wasn't able to get KingRoot to work with 5.3.1.1 and now I'm on 5.3.2 and it still won't work. I just got this tablet about a week ago. I should have rooted it before I first connected to WiFi, but I received it as a gift, so I hadn't researched the process in advance and I wasn't certain that I wanted to mess with it. I usually root my devices, but I considered leaving this one unrooted... until it was too late. Sometimes, a little hesitation makes the decision for you.
ManWithCamera said:
Yeah.... I wasn't able to get KingRoot to work with 5.3.1.1 and now I'm on 5.3.2 and it still won't work. I just got this tablet about a week ago. I should have rooted it before I first connected to WiFi, but I received it as a gift, so I hadn't researched the process in advance and I wasn't certain that I wanted to mess with it. I usually root my devices, but I considered leaving this one unrooted... until it was too late. Sometimes, a little hesitation makes the decision for you.
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First I have heard of 5.3.1.1 and 5.3.2 for 5th gen tablets. Sure you have a 7" model (first released Sept 2015) and not the latest HD8 (released 2016)?
Davey126 said:
First I have heard of 5.3.1.1 and 5.3.2 for 5th gen tablets. Sure you have a 7" model (first released Sept 2015) and not the latest HD8 (released 2016)?
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That's probably because the smart people on here have already blocked their updates. Yes, I confirmed that a 7" tablet is what was ordered from Amazon. It also has 2015 stamped on the back and it claims to be a 5th generation tablet in the settings. It installed the 5.3.2.0 update last night at 11:18pm.
ManWithCamera said:
That's probably because the smart people on here have already blocked their updates. Yes, I confirmed that a 7" tablet is what was ordered from Amazon. It also has 2015 stamped on the back and it claims to be a 5th generation tablet in the settings. It installed the 5.3.2.0 update last night at 11:18pm.
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So now we know: FireOS 5.3.2 is in the wild and (apparently) can not be rooted w/KingRoot at present. What isn't known is whether 5.3.2 can be rolled back to 5.3.1 without bricking. Typically someone has to sacrifice their device (accidentally or intentionally) to determine that.
I'll create a new thread with you findings later today if someone doesn't beat me to it. Thanks for sharing.

FireOS 5.3.2.1 rollbacks

FYI - early indications 5.3.2.1 -> 5.3.1.0 rollbacks are problematic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/fireos-5-3-2-arrived-t3500922/post70052733
Here as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/fireos-5-3-2-arrived-t3500922/post70061090
Bricked mine too. It shows up as a USB COM port and spits out "READYREADYREADYREADY" until it disconnects itself. I think this means it should be possible to restore 5.3.2.1 via sp flash tool (or maybe another serial loader). If we can get the right files
Attached a scatter file I found online for the MTK8127 chipset, which fire has. No idea if it's right. SP tool for some reason won't keep the com port open...
kaysond said:
Bricked mine too. It shows up as a USB COM port and spits out "READYREADYREADYREADY" until it disconnects itself. I think this means it should be possible to restore 5.3.2.1 via sp flash tool (or maybe another serial loader). If we can get the right files
Attached a scatter file I found online for the MTK8127 chipset, which fire has. No idea if it's right. SP tool for some reason won't keep the com port open...
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scatter files haven't worked, with any firmware versions
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/unbrick-fire-7-5th-gen-downgrade-t3388747
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Yeah, I got the READYREADYREADYREADYREADY brick that I was expecting. Three tablets, got two of them rooted and OTA blocked, then had an emergency and the third apparently wasn't actually Off so it happily ****ed me.
There's never been a recovery from the READYREADYREADY firmware loader, I'd assume? Deciding if I should keep or toss this one. At least this ****'s cheap since we don't actually own it.
I just got an Amazon Fire and am new to this whole thing. Ultimately I'd love to root it, and install a different ROM. But in the short term, I'm just playing with installing the Play Store and turning off lock screen ads. Anyway, I just opened the package up today, and I let it update itself to 5.3.2.1 before I was aware that this might cause me trouble.
I did download the SuperTool here:
http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/?dir=SuperTool
I successfully installed the Play Store. I next tried disabling the lock screen ads, but the tool said I would need to root first. When I selected the option to do that, it asked for my FireOS version, but didn't give 5.3.2.1 as an option. So I'm afraid to go through the root process.
It sounds like downgrading to an earlier version will brick this. What about rooting it with a tool like the one I downloaded? Is that likely to cause trouble as well? Is there much I can do with this currently?
There's no known way (yet) to flash 5.3.2.1 back to something earlier, that's true (and some who got hit by a brick will confirm).
There's also no known success (yet) rooting this, but since KingRoot is evolving, there may be hope. There are multiple releases of KR around, and the cloud part (where the methods are kept) seem to be constantly changing - if you decide to keep the Fire, you may as well spend some time trying to get it rooted... KR versions 4.8.5, 4.9.2, 4.9.6 have been suggested; if you decide to use KR 5, you will have to remove it from the list of device administrators before replacing it with SuperSU - of course only if you're successful. We're all waiting for RootJunky to release a new SuperTool that will possibly automate this - ATM Nov 29 is still the latest version available...
Does the RootJunky SuperTool just use KR under the hood? I'll have to keep an eye on this. I don't mind getting my hands a bit messy on this, but I don't want to be blazing a new trail. I'm not experienced enough with it. I don't mind waiting a bit to get some hand holding.
komi_9 said:
Does the RootJunky SuperTool just use KR under the hood?
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It does:
Code:
$ grep -ri kingroot.apk .
./1-Amazon-Fire-5th-gen.bat:files\adb.exe install -r apps\Kingroot.apk
./3-Amazon-Fire-5th-gen-linux-mac.sh: sudo $ADB install -r apps/Kingroot.apk
SuperTool is a zip file - and the "magic" is done in human-readable scripts (bat or bash). Firmware bin files are zips too. Open them in your fav archive tool, and inspect what's inside.
tl;dr: ST installs whatever you put into apps/Kingroot.apk - watch out for Spelnig when replacing the version coming with ST with another one you have dl'ed from apkmirror.
hope this works! Thanks for the good work guys
dmerillat said:
Yeah, I got the READYREADYREADYREADYREADY brick that I was expecting. Three tablets, got two of them rooted and OTA blocked, then had an emergency and the third apparently wasn't actually Off so it happily ****ed me.
There's never been a recovery from the READYREADYREADY firmware loader, I'd assume? Deciding if I should keep or toss this one. At least this ****'s cheap since we don't actually own it.
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I'm fairly certain you can still write to the flash memory from that loader, just a matter of figuring out how. There's a python script that I think will work as long as you figure out what to write...
So..there is no way to Root or downgrade 5.3.2.1??
At this moment there isn't, sorry. But tools are not static, and there's even the chance that a future fireOS upgrade will be easier to root. You've got the choice to return your Fire while/if still on warranty or wait for better days to come.
Edit: I have read rumours that KingRoot would now be able to root 5.1.3 - this, of course, may be due to the usual number confusion (and 5.3.1 was meant).
On the other hand, the patch level of 5.3.2.1 might not include DirtyCow attacks yet:
Code:
ro.build.version.security_patch=2016-10-05
and indeed I saw RootJunky add some DC stuff to his download site... There might be something around the corner, indeed.
Confirm, even hardbrick if flash from 5.3.2.1 to 5.3.2
I just used the supertool on the same model Fire tab, on 12/27/16. Here's what I've learned:
1. Amazon will indeed remove offers/ads from the discounted Fire, without cost, if you ask.
2. Supertool uses KingRoot, as of my download date.
3. Supertool was not successful in removing ads, but did install the Play Store. It did prevent OTA updates, but the root didn't work for me, so I reloaded original firmware and of course it updated right away. Next time I would try to root after registering my Fire with Amazon.
4. It aopeared to me that the Supertool attempted a downgrade (5.1.1?) before rooting, so if downgrading will brick a device running 5.3.2.1, then I think the answer to the OP's question is "no".
related question: Knowing all the above, can I still re-try the Supertool option #1, and (re)install the Play Store and remove ads? (I bought 3 of them Amazon removed ads on 1 of them so far.))
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I just used the supertool on the same model Fire tab, on 12/27/16. Here's what I've learned:
1. Amazon will indeed remove offers/ads from the discounted Fire, without cost, if you ask.
2. Supertool uses KingRoot, as of my download date.
3. Supertool was not successful in removing ads, but did install the Play Store. It did prevent OTA updates, but the root didn't work for me, so I reloaded original firmware and of course it updated right away. Next time I would try to root after registering my Fire with Amazon.
4. It aopeared to me that the Supertool attempted a downgrade (5.1.1?) before rooting, so if downgrading will brick a device running 5.3.2.1, then I think the answer to the OP's question is "no".
related question: Knowing all the above, can I still re-try the Supertool option #1, and (re)install the Play Store and remove ads? (I bought 3 of them Amazon removed ads on 1 of them so far.))
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- SuperTool does not attempt a FireOS rollback
- 5.1.1 refers to underlying Android build
- Amazon will (reluctantly) remove ads from ONE device registered to an account
- KingRoot works best if device is NOT registered with Amazon
- at present KingRoot is not effective against FireOS 5.3.2+
Thanks for responding, sorry for any misinformation, I'm quite a noob. So - if the supertool doesnt rollback, do you think I'd have trouble retrying the ad removal tool while running 5.3.2.1. ?
rallison203 said:
Thanks for responding, sorry for any misinformation, I'm quite a noob. So - if the supertool doesnt rollback, do you think I'd have trouble retrying the ad removal tool while running 5.3.2.1. ?
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Don't see any significant risks with rerunning but also don't think it will be fully effective on an unrooted device.
Is this probably the best thread to follow if I want to be notified when it's possible to root 5.3.2.1?
valzi said:
Is this probably the best thread to follow if I want to be notified when it's possible to root 5.3.2.1?
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I hope so, I'm certainly subscribed

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