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Tmobile and the damn data speed throttling

For the first time ever I hit 2gb in one month and then tmobile throttled my speed down to something between edge and 3g...
just for a tip to anyone out there, if you have wifi at home then use wifi while you are at home. I am only throttled from 17th-19th (new billing cycle) but it sucks bad...

That's a bummer. I'm stoked that I have Wi-Fi at home AND work that I tap into. I rarely have to use my data so I don't have that fear of going over. I hope that I never get into a situation where this happens.
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Mog said:
For the first time ever I hit 2gb in one month and then tmobile throttled my speed down to something between edge and 3g...
just for a tip to anyone out there, if you have wifi at home then use wifi while you are at home. I am only throttled from 17th-19th (new billing cycle) but it sucks bad...
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I also had the displeasure of being throttled last month. I make it a point to turn on WiFi when I'm at home so that it doesn't happen again. This sucks, considering a lot of apps are using large amounts of data these days. :/

Its only a 2 gig limit for newer customers right? Us oldie customers still get up to 5 I hope!
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Just an idea for those who haven't considered, you can use apps like Tasker or AutomateIt (free) to automatically turn on wifi when at home using location-based triggers and things like that.

u guys think u had it bad,, i used two gigs of data withing a week of my bill cuz i had to tether to my laptop. so im stuck with this like edge **** for the rest of the month...

Your 2 gig cap is the data feature you have, you can upgrade it to a 5 gig cap if you pay $10 more a month, or you could go with the outrageous 10gig cap for an extra $40 a month on top of what your paying now, wifi is your best bet. Throttled speeds are around 50-100kbps, but hey it beats overages any day
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hd2brick said:
Your 2 gig cap is the data feature you have, you can upgrade it to a 5 gig cap if you pay $10 more a month, or you could go with the outrageous 10gig cap for an extra $40 a month on top of what your paying now, wifi is your best bet. Throttled speeds are around 50-100kbps, but hey it beats overages any day
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Ok so what if I just have the unlimited grandfathered that I have had for the past five years? Is it now magically just a 2 gig limit instead of the five it always used to be?
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xsteven77x said:
Ok so what if I just have the unlimited grandfathered that I have had for the past five years? Is it now magically just a 2 gig limit instead of the five it always used to be?
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On the same boat as u. I've had internet for about 4-5 years now.
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I thought I read something about not being grandfathered in, once you upgrade to an android/data plan. And top it off, they weren't even mentioning that you would not be grandfathered in. where's our tmo reps? chime in plz
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tmo sucks ?
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I thought I read something about not being grandfathered in, once you upgrade to an android/data plan. And top it off, they weren't even mentioning that you would not be grandfathered in. where's our tmo reps? chime in plz
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maybe this is the beginning of how tmo will suck when att takes over ?
I got the txt yesterday, but haven't been throttled. its near my cycle to restart, so how much data doesn't even show on mytmobile. called customer service, they couldn't tell me if I was throttled....
verizon here we come (5 of us)

wilnotdie said:
I thought I read something about not being grandfathered in, once you upgrade to an android/data plan. And top it off, they weren't even mentioning that you would not be grandfathered in. where's our tmo reps? chime in plz
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Well I haven't touched a thing on my account since the garbage data plans went into effect FOR that reason. So hopefully nothing has changed. I have been very careful cause I knew they would pull a fast one if I so much as took visual voicemail or something off lmfao.
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Okay guys I know getting throttled sucks but during this and last month I've had unlimited data! I mean truly unlimited no cap! I've have passed the 5Gb cap and have gotten the infamous text telling me my speed will be slowed. I've been experiencing this since I updated the leaked gingy from t-mobile I don't know if that's the case of my fortunate situation. Last month I used 10.2Gb(lol double checked dang that's a lot!) and right now I'm at 5.5Gb.I'm still at full speed with 18 or so days left on my billing cycle. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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SkullNBones19 said:
Okay guys I know getting throttled sucks but during this and last month I've had unlimited data! I mean truly unlimited no cap! I've have passed the 5Gb cap and have gotten the infamous text telling me my speed will be slowed. I've been experiencing this since I updated the leaked gingy from t-mobile I don't know if that's the case of my fortunate situation. Last month I used 10.2Gb(lol double checked dang that's a lot!) and right now I'm at 5.5Gb.I'm still at full speed with 18 or so days left on my billing cycle. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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If your using the leaked gingerbread, then you are also on the 04.30 radio, which is the thing keeping you from being throttled. This has been confirmed by me and various other users on different roms, as far as I know it's the only radio that can defeat throttling.... somehow. But hey I'll take it
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PaganAng3l said:
If your using the leaked gingerbread, then you are also on the 04.30 radio, which is the thing keeping you from being throttled. This has been confirmed by me and various other users on different roms, as far as I know it's the only radio that can defeat throttling.... somehow. But hey I'll take it
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Really? Wow never heard about that!
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OMG!!!!! You saying that if I install this radio, i'll have TRULY unlimited data!?!?!?!
OMG OMG OMG!!! I'll be flashing ASAP!!

lawalty said:
OMG!!!!! You saying that if I install this radio, i'll have TRULY unlimited data!?!?!?!
OMG OMG OMG!!! I'll be flashing ASAP!!
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I wouldn't expect it to last too much longer, lol. But hey it works right now so get it while you can!
Edit: I would first test this toward the end of your billing cycle, there are scattered reports that this doesn't work for some people.
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There are people on all different radios that get the throttle text and never get throttled. It really seems like a roll of the dice no matter what radio your on now that you said the .30 doesn't work for all people. All the other radios work for some and not for others as far as throttling goes also.
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Oh no, I don't like reading this. I just joined Tmobile because their data plans are cheap and I THOUGHT they had unlimited 3G. I only bought 200MB of 4G thinking I'd be on semi decent 3G but now I'm screwed. Queue buyer's remorse...

5 Gigs Data from Tmobile

Hello everyone,
I have this phone with 2 GB data plan. I called tmobile and they said they are offering 5 GB data plan for just 5 bucks extra for 3 months. I thought I should let you now about this offer.

I say go for its its five bucks I download Tom's and flash them and watch Netflix surf the web and I have a 5 gig plan and you could tether internet if you Ned to from 3rd party apps ..its a good deal
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alitaw said:
Hello everyone,
I have this phone with 2 GB data plan. I called tmobile and they said they are offering 5 GB data plan for just 5 bucks extra for 3 months. I thought I should let you now about this offer.
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Sounds like a good deal, are you with a classic or value plan?
Does that require new contract /extension?
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denverguy said:
Sounds like a good deal, are you with a classic or value plan?
Does that require new contract /extension?
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Need contract extension your upgrade date wont change though. I looked online classic plans are $15 more for 5 gigs than 2 gig plan. So this applies with the value plan most likely. I have unlimited minutes and and texting but don't need it I only made like 86 minutes in calls in the actual day. all my calls are during free nights and weekends anyway. Free wifi calling its like I have the unlimted minutes anyway.

This is a normal bump up to 5gb with discounts applied to the account. Its worth it and shouldn't extend your contract as it is only a feature and not a rate plan change. PLUS 5gb now includes tethering!
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mbernusg said:
This is a normal bump up to 5gb with discounts applied to the account. Its worth it and shouldn't extend your contract as it is only a feature and not a rate plan change. PLUS 5gb now includes tethering!
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Are you sure on the 5gb including tethering? My data plan is like $20 a month for 5gb

All 5 gig plans include tethering and mobile album for free. The extra features are separately 14.99 each.
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I believe the 5gb plan that goes for $25-30 includes tethering.
The 5gb preferred android data plan is only $20 and does not include it.
^not many people know this one, but there it is lol, You can call in and ask for it. It is better askign the loyalty/retention department about it. Some of the regular customer reps don't know about it for some reason.
I may be wrong about the preferred android data plan not including the extra features... it's been awhile since i bothered the CSRs lol

mbernusg said:
This is a normal bump up to 5gb with discounts applied to the account. Its worth it and shouldn't extend your contract as it is only a feature and not a rate plan change. PLUS 5gb now includes tethering!
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On classic plan called said it was $35 dollars and extend my contract. So it only applies to value plans.

Killbynature said:
On classic plan called said it was $35 dollars and extend my contract. So it only applies to value plans.
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whoa what?? who did you talked to? let me go through t-mobile's website and see whats up with their services
okay wow, it looks like they did UP the data plan, but whoever you talked to might have been trying to change your entire PLAN and not just a service. Service upgrades should not be a contract extension.
I would recommend to switch to the $20 5gb preferred android plan. I hope they still offer it.. they should be able to though. This works on any plan. It was a hidden offer and was not a grandfathered service unless things have changed. Doesn't hurt to try. This goes for everyone.
talk to the retention/loyalty department for smoothest help. Regular CSR will say they can't do that etc etc.

Yeah preffered is 20 its an older feature.. you have to ask for it through care not available in store system. New 5gb feature is 35 but does include tethering on classic. On value its 25
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Last week I was offered 5GB for $15 including wifi hotspot tethering. $5/month for the first 3 months sounds great, and I imagine it would revert to $15/month after the first 3.

Just letting you know the preffered $20 5GB does include tethering. Myself and my brother have it
and it's listed on the bill.
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robo21 said:
Last week I was offered 5GB for $15 including wifi hotspot tethering. $5/month for the first 3 months sounds great, and I imagine it would revert to $15/month after the first 3.
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Where were you offered that?
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jtroye32 said:
Where were you offered that?
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Something like that is only offered through loyalty and they will most likely extend your contract to give you that.
On value 5gb is 25$ and on classic its 35$. So the only way to get any other price is through loyalty.
I'm a T-Mobile rep so...
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Rayman0625 said:
Something like that is only offered through loyalty and they will most likely extend your contract to give you that.
On value 5gb is 25$ and on classic its 35$. So the only way to get any other price is through loyalty.
I'm a T-Mobile rep so...
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I assume it is actually $25 still but with the usual $10/month discount to the bill. Just another way of saying it
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jtroye32 said:
Just letting you know the preffered $20 5GB does include tethering. Myself and my brother have it
and it's listed on the bill.
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That's awesome! Learned Something new, although using custom roms already does that, but something i can share with my friends! lol
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alitaw said:
Hello everyone,
I have this phone with 2 GB data plan. I called tmobile and they said they are offering 5 GB data plan for just 5 bucks extra for 3 months. I thought I should let you now about this offer.
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for 3 months as in $5 for 3 months and it'll go back to normal rate?
or you have up to 3 months to get this deal?

jtroye32 said:
Where were you offered that?
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Tmo customer care. I had called in about another issue and they usually try to sell something when they have a captive audience. Most of my data usage is done via wifi so I turned him down.
The $15/5GB plan he offered me most definitely included tethering.

protegemini said:
for 3 months as in $5 for 3 months and it'll go back to normal rate?
or you have up to 3 months to get this deal?
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I was switched to this. I was told it would be a $5 a month saving for 3 months and then I would revert back to 2gb for normal price.

T-Mobile truly unlimited data

Who else can't wait for tomorrow to get that "truly unlimited data" from T-Mobile
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And when is happening
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Tomorrow...literally
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Me, I need it because I'm currently without home internet.
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Vain III said:
Me, I need it because I'm currently without home internet.
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Same here man.. I have the 10 gb data plan and I run through it every month
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I want to switch right now!
If you go to t-mobile's site, and click on Individual plans.. you can see it's already implemented "As Unlimited Nationwide 4g"
But when you log in to my t-mobile, it's not an option under services Guess they're still working on it, hah

ericdjobs said:
I want to switch right now!
If you go to t-mobile's site, and click on Individual plans.. you can see it's already implemented "As Unlimited Nationwide 4g"
But when you log in to my t-mobile, it's not an option under services Guess they're still working on it, hah
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RAWR, I know. Ive been dying to update for the past four hours.

Vain III said:
RAWR, I know. Ive been dying to update for the past four hours.
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Well, at least the call center and chat open in an hour and a half! Haha
Buuuuuuut that's not needed because IT'S THERE!
Unlimited Nationwide 4G
Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages.
Now to test FoxFi, hahaha

ericdjobs said:
Well, at least the call center and chat open in an hour and a half! Haha
Buuuuuuut that's not needed because IT'S THERE!
Unlimited Nationwide 4G
Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages.
Now to test FoxFi, hahaha
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+1 I just did it right after I typed my message :| I got rid of issuance to keep the price around the same.

yeah... now if t-mobile only built a cell tower near me.
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P.S. Did anybody here that is so overly excited about this "Unlimited Data" notice the jump in price from $10 (for the 2GB) to $30 (for the unlimited)? Just be aware of the price increase before changing your plan(s).

WellTrainedVC said:
P.S. Did anybody here that is so overly excited about this "Unlimited Data" notice the jump in price from $10 (for the 2GB) to $30 (for the unlimited)? Just be aware of the price increase before changing your plan(s).
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What are you talking about. My bill literally went up two dollars when I took off my insurance, which I don't need because I root. I think it only went up to thirty dollars on the classic plans.

Vain III said:
What are you talking about. My bill literally went up two dollars when I took off my insurance, which I don't need because I root. I think it only went up to thirty dollars on the classic plans.
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If you had the $10 Android plan that they gave out to preferred customers, you'd have a $20 price increase..
But those of us who were unable to get the $10 deal.. 2gb was previous $20.
Considering 5gb was $35, I'd say $30 for completely unlimited is a damn good deal, lol

Did anyone else just lose data? It's redirecting me to a "choose a plan" page but when I click it, it says I have a data plan. Weird :| That was on my phone, non-tether.

WellTrainedVC said:
yeah... now if t-mobile only built a cell tower near me.
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P.S. Did anybody here that is so overly excited about this "Unlimited Data" notice the jump in price from $10 (for the 2GB) to $30 (for the unlimited)? Just be aware of the price increase before changing your plan(s).
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Wow..the price are so expensive in US. $10 only for 2gb?
Can you tell me the speed off connection?it's slow or fast? Because I will travelled to US.
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Vain III said:
Did anyone else just lose data? It's redirecting me to a "choose a plan" page but when I click it, it says I have a data plan. Weird :| That was on my phone, non-tether.
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Yup I just got off the phone with Tmo support they said they have to readd it to my line and it could take 2 hours. FWIW I was off the phone 10 minutes ago and still get the upsell page.

Best Deal Around YO

http://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Mobile-Pre-Paid-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-w-30-Airtime-Card/21631986

jeffreygtab said:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Mobile-Pre-Paid-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-w-30-Airtime-Card/21631986
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That is a little much for a Galaxy 2 IMO.....
but I agree that the plan cannot be beat. 100 minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data with no throttling for $30, you cant touch that. Plus you can use their unlimited WiFi calling feature on that plan.

**** that's unlimited no throttle?!?!? I need a 4G Tmobile phone now! I'm on that plan but I'm using an ATT phone so no 4G for me, and I don't want for the refarming to finish.

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http://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Mobile-Pre-Paid-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-w-30-Airtime-Card/21631986
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jeffreygtab said:
**** that's unlimited no throttle?!?!? I need a 4G Tmobile phone now! I'm on that plan but I'm using an ATT phone so no 4G for me, and I don't want for the refarming to finish.
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There is ZERO fine print anywhere stating throttling. On every other plan that has it, it is easy to find out when you get throttled. A call to customer service confirmed this. It is only available online on tmobile.com and walmart.com. It is pretty new.......just saw it about a week ago.
Plus, remember, Tmobile just announced true unlimited data for post and pre paid, but this is the cheapest/lowest minute one I can find.

Gvndeb60 said:
There is ZERO fine print anywhere stating throttling. On every other plan that has it, it is easy to find out when you get throttled. A call to customer service confirmed this. It is only available online on tmobile.com and walmart.com. It is pretty new.......just saw it about a week ago.
Plus, remember, Tmobile just announced true unlimited data for post and pre paid, but this is the cheapest/lowest minute one I can find.
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I've known about this plan for months, but they used to throttle at 5gigs but I just checked my account and now it's unlimited! Yeah I need a new Tmobile phone now for sure. I get great service here, but only 2G because of my device.

jeffreygtab said:
I've known about this plan for months, but they used to throttle at 5gigs but I just checked my account and now it's unlimited! Yeah I need a new Tmobile phone now for sure. I get great service here, but only 2G because of my device.
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The funny thing is, how could we even complain about throttling at 5gb for that price??? But for true unlimited? WOW!

I'm not complaining, because this is about the only good plan in the entire US. But I'm for sure getting a phone to take advantage of it, Tmobile is the underdog, they need to be the mass sales/low margin company!

unless they changed it without updating my account here's what mine looks like.View attachment 1346761
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Used ones on CL and eBay people want more than the wallmart price and then its used no warranty and you have to wonder if it will get turned off for non payment or whatever by T-Mobile
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954wrecker said:
unless they changed it without updating my account here's what mine looks like.View attachment 1346761
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Mine shows that but it also show this....
http://imgur.com/XGkMh

Great plan regardless. Skip wallmart and get the sim for .99 and activate the plan yourself.
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
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jeffreygtab said:
Mine shows that but it also show this....
http://imgur.com/XGkMh
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Yes it just goes to 2g for the rest of the cycle when you go over 5gb

jeffreygtab said:
Mine shows that but it also show this....
http://imgur.com/XGkMh
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You have unlimited data... But they throttle it at 5gigs. They count ye throttled as still being unlimited.
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Gvndeb60 said:
Plus you can use their unlimited WiFi calling feature on that plan.
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WiFi calling still uses your minutes, its not unlimited. Unless however, you do have unlimited minutes.
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theking_13 said:
WiFi calling still uses your minutes, its not unlimited. Unless however, you do have unlimited minutes.
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That makes no sense at all, what's the point then for the consumer?

It's not unlimited, it's 5 gigs of data, I have it n
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What about this? Do you actually have to pay for the contract bill or just the $15 bucks? I'm confused, watch the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW4h1tOAsg4

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.talkatone.android
Everyone that gets this deal 100 minutes... Mann go unlimited with this app.. makes Me want to quit on sprint LOL
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gmangut said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.talkatone.android
Everyone that gets this deal 100 minutes... Mann go unlimited with this app.. makes Me want to quit on sprint LOL
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I will try that out.
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That makes no sense at all, what's the point then for the consumer?
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In case you have less than perfect reception in your home. Or want to make call with bad signal, but there's WiFi around. Says like in a very urban area.
Its to have better service, not save money.
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Sorry I'm not sure if you are referring to only the prepaid plans but tmo has wifi calling that no longer uses minutes noq
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AT&T capping their data on i9300

for 4 years now I've been on medianet, using international Samsung phones, today I got a message .. guess we can cross unlimited and cheap data off our 'benefits of owning a i9300 on att'
AT&T Free Msg: This is a courtesy reminder that you have used 90% of your 3GB data plan allowance for the bill cycle ending on 10/12/12. Any overage is charged @ $10/1GB. Learn more at www.att.com/dataplans. Tip: Mobile Data is unlimited over Wifi.
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If you have been using media net for four years why are you on the 3 GB data plan, instead of the unlimited plan?
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ronj1986 said:
If you have been using media net for four years why are you on the 3 GB data plan, instead of the unlimited plan?
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That's because we paid a much lower rate of either $10 or $15 for unlimited data.

At&t won't let you keep your current plan if you buy an LTE phone. You must upgrade to an "lte" data plan, which are only offered with 300mb, 3gb, and 5gb limits.

not sure if you guys are understanding what I'm saying. I'm saying, out of nowhere they switched me over and started capping me all on their own
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See the thread in my signature, there is already a fix for it that worked for me.
☞ sent from GS3 or Nexus

Dang - so do they have the IMEIs for the i9300s?? How'd they switch you over? Unless you're a really heavy user and they just figured that no phone on MediaNET should be consuming that much data as they're all dumb phones right?