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It always takes me through the worst most dangerous side streets and neighborhoods in Detroit. Then when I get to my destination it's like 1 block away from the freeway. It's very important to stay on the freeway as long as possible when traveling in Detroit. Android GPS insists on taking me through crack dealer and prostitute hangouts. These may be more direct but the freeway is faster and safer. Google needs to do something about this before they get someone killed.
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It always takes through the worst most dangerous side streets and neighberhoods in Detroit. Then when I get to my destination it's like 1 block away from the freeway. It's very important to stay on the freeway as long as possible when traveling in Detroit. Android GPS insists on taking me through crack dealer and prostitute hangouts. These may be more direct but the freeway is faster and safer. Google needs to do something about this before they get someone killed.
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LMAO!
atlease it didnt take you to a gun fight
It fings the shortest route based on either distance or time!!!
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You could always create Via points and place them on the freeways, I know it's extra work but at least you know you know which way your going.
lol...this reminds me of the girl who tried to sue google because her nav wanted her to walk on the freeway...
...come on ppl, you have to excercise better judgment on your behalf. if you would have taken a safer route, it would have recalculated for you...if you got shot in the ghetto because you were following what a computer told you to do...I dont think anybody would feel sorry for you.
Cheers
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...if you got shot in the ghetto because you were following what a computer told you to do...I dont think anybody would feel sorry for you.
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This is the most priceless comment I have ever seen on XDA! ROFL!
if I'm not mistaken it says that you are not to use google nav for driving and you use the app at your own risk...... well it use to have a popup that said that.
Every time I try to go to Europe google tries to have me killed. It keeps me on the freeway for a while, then all of a sudden I'M IN THE OCEAN AND I CAN'T SWIM. AHHHHHHHHHH.
LMFAO lol google is gonna tell you sorry we don't take crack infested neighborhoods into consideration lol.
And technically google drove through those neighborhoods lol for street view on google maps so...Probably with a police escort lol
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LMFAO lol google is gonna tell you sorry we don't take crack infested neighborhoods into consideration lol.
And technically google drove through those neighborhoods lol for street view on google maps so...Probably with a police escort lol
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lol in the bulletproof google security van
This has happened to me several times where it leads me to dead ends, not good...
Wonder why it does that?
Reminds me of a Dr.Who episode where people had this NatSav in their cars and this girl got locked in her car and drove into a lake! LOL
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Reminds me of a Dr.Who episode where people had this NatSav in their cars and this girl got locked in her car and drove into a lake! LOL
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lol i remember that lol
OMG detroit is not even that BAD. Now I'll admit some places don't look too hott but its nto even that bad lol..ppl blow stuff out of proportion. Now I also will admit if it takes you to certain areas on the eastside by e. warren or westside by joy then you do have to be a lil concern. Otherwise, everything else is ok.
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It always takes me through the worst most dangerous side streets and neighborhoods in Detroit. Then when I get to my destination it's like 1 block away from the freeway. It's very important to stay on the freeway as long as possible when traveling in Detroit. Android GPS insists on taking me through crack dealer and prostitute hangouts. These may be more direct but the freeway is faster and safer. Google needs to do something about this before they get someone killed.
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Isn't that most of Detroit? Lol
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Street view photos would look good with a police escort.
I so wish Garmin would release an Android app already for just these reasons.
Only settings available with Google are to AVOID highways which I don't know why you would ever want to do unless you were texting while driving! lol
i was going to propose an app, that was community based, where users plot areas that are sketchy, then this is overlayed google maps and the navigation steered you around those areas.
"if you're unarmed, turn right"
"if you want crack, turn left"
I love this one.. "kayak across the pacific ocean"
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I love this one.. "kayak across the pacific ocean"
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PMSL that's class!
Why Kayak though? I'd get a cruise liner
What would have been an excellent day for me has turned me into a ball of negative energy. I read reports here that Sprint stores were letting the Nexus S go early. Boy was I ready. Since there are only two stores I can drive to, I called the nearest one, an hour away. I ask the rep twice, If I make the trip, can I land a Nexus S today. Was told twice, sir we have the phone and yes we will sell it to you. I can't tell you how excited I was to hop in the car and take off like a bat outta hell. I pushed the S2000 to 100+ over the overpasses flying by cars thinking, get outta my way I'm getting the Nexus S *****es. I pull up hop out the car, don't even remember pulling the key from the ignition right? Well I get inside first thing on the agenda is to sit down and "play/test" the phone out a bit. Explore the gingerbread OS, determine if I REALLY want to drop 200 after just getting the Epic full price. They hand me the phone no hesitation let me play. Didn't take but 5 minutes, decided, sure let me blow my upgrade, I want the Nexus S from a development standpoint. To have pure google, and to have seemless rom options in the future cause I know the major devs will support it. Also to help me understand the lower levels of pure android to help bring that to the Epic which I plan on continuing to work on. Hell I was planning on keeping both phones. The woman goes to get me the new phone, box, etc... Manager approaches, ask what's going on. What's going on is I'm about to leave another satisfied customer. NOT. Manager says he "just received word via e-mail" he can't sell it. I explained I called ahead and drove from out of town to get it. He tells me "that's not far to drive come back sunday". You ************. I left the store before I opened my mouth because that usually ends in my vent cut short by police who then have to take the rest of my vent, which ends up in a trip to the local jail until I calm my temper down. It's really hard to raise it but when I'm heated, it's hours before it falls. Needless to say I been on the phone with the owner of the store who is very considerate, considering I'm not polite at this minute. She is taking my rant telling me it's deserved (despite the fact she's at home obviously dealing with family and life). We work out a deal that is NOT me getting the device.
So what's the point of this all? beside me ranting? I hope one thing comes of this thread. Whomever is responsible for my waisted drive, (its not the lady on the phone when I called, she put me on hold while going into the back to ask permission, the guy who gave her permission points his finger at the district manager who had "just sent the email" that I found was lie, the store owner tells me they got the do not sell e-mail 4 hours before I even called). So whoever is truely to blame, and I'm sure I know and looked you in the eyes. Eat a bag of dicks, and enjoy the trouble your now in.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not at all mad at the fact that they couldn't sell the phone early, I expected that from the first call. I'm pissed at the fact I drove down there and back for NOTHING. Does he/she not understand, we are in the middle of a recession, in Louisiana where there are NO jobs left in my town since the oil field was tanked by the spill. I'm busting ass for just over minimum wage till the work returns, and I attempt to drop 200, plus burn a tank of gass to get this device, and get strung along? ****ers.
Alright Rant Over, I'm ordering from Google, and I'll get over it, but the Houma Park Ave. store will never see me again after buying the Moment and Epic last year, then first thing this year headed to go get the Nexus. Thats 1010.00 in phones in 13 months.
Failure all around... I despise incompetent employees who find it fun to screw customers around.
Hope you have a good radar detector... they (EDIT: they? Who's they? The guy who did it.) should be paying for your gas.
I would say anger management and a new hobby might solve this problem. I'd say "not to sound like a jerk" if I hadn't already, but you need to stop worrying about keeping up with the jones' about phones. They're going to come and go and have their advantages and disadvantages, but freaking out, making a choice to drive a long distance on a longshot that you clearly were sceptical about and then getting nearly irate over the fact that a retail manager got overridden on selling you it while you lolly-gagged on getting the thing you drove over an hour for sounds ridiculous and makes me wonder where your priorities are. (Pardon the atrocious grammar) If you got there and it didn't blow your mind were you going to come here and type a long rant about how Samsung wasted your time making you drive an hour to make a phone you weren't impressed with? Keep working hard, yes, but stop loudly blaming others because you aren;t satisfied and stop getting so worked up that you land yourself at the police station, that's just acting like a child.
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Failure all around... I despise incompetent employees who find it fun to screw customers around.
Hope you have a good radar detector... they (EDIT: they? Who's they? The guy who did it.) should be paying for your gas.
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Valentine 1 Ofcourse I'm covered hwy 90 is a speed trap from texas to mississippi
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Valentine 1 Ofcourse I'm covered hwy 90 is a speed trap from texas to mississippi
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Right on... I'm a Passport 8500 X50 user at the moment, but I'm going to go V1 in the near future, I think. Will go hardware with a mirror mount, should be sweet. And watch out for TXHP next time you're in Texas (esp. on 20)... Those bastards are snipers with their rear-facing instant-on.
Sounds like you got your priorities straight.
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I would say anger management and a new hobby might solve this problem. I'd say "not to sound like a jerk" if I hadn't already, but you need to stop worrying about keeping up with the jones' about phones. They're going to come and go and have their advantages and disadvantages, but freaking out, making a choice to drive a long distance on a longshot that you clearly were sceptical about and then getting nearly irate over the fact that a retail manager got overridden on selling you it while you lolly-gagged on getting the thing you drove over an hour for sounds ridiculous and makes me wonder where your priorities are. (Pardon the atrocious grammar) If you got there and it didn't blow your mind were you going to come here and type a long rant about how Samsung wasted your time making you drive an hour to make a phone you weren't impressed with? Keep working hard, yes, but stop loudly blaming others because you aren;t satisfied and stop getting so worked up that you land yourself at the police station, that's just acting like a child.
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You don't come off as a jerk, I'm just venting here so that's expected that people like you would wonder what's wrong with me. My priorities are where they need to be I own all my possession, don't pay bills sept insurance and phone. I save and splurge on what I want. Driving an hour isn't rediculous when you live in a ghost town in the middle of nowhere and I was making 3 times the money when I got the Moment and Epic. Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. Oh forgot you can't unmount the SD and pop in another one. I knew what I was headed there for but I do expect a company be it a retail store or anyone to keep true to their word. That kinda was the point of calling ahead of time....twice. About the police you'd just have to live here to understand, getting in a verbal confrontation with a business owner is a reason to arrest alone, disturbing the peace. I closed my mouth and exited the store, so no childish acts there, I came here to vent instead . But by all means, your entitled to your opinions the matter not to me so I'm not hating on you for your post, **** I expect worse here shortly .
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Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. .
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The S definitely has a front facing camera
living in NY this happens to me all the time. been sent from store to store on wild goose chases. i expect to be treated like crap when i have to step into a brick and mortar store these days
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Right on... I'm a Passport 8500 X50 user at the moment, but I'm going to go V1 in the near future, I think. Will go hardware with a mirror mount, should be sweet. And watch out for TXHP next time you're in Texas (esp. on 20)... Those bastards are snipers with their rear-facing instant-on.
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So does LA State Troopers! I know the feeling. I passed on the passport because the only cigarette lighter port is on the side of the driver seat, didn't want that wire hanging across the car, its hardwired into the battery.
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no ****, misinformed. It don't affect me either way on that tho, because I don't use the one on the Epic. The no 720p hurts because I love the video quality but I still will have an Epic to record on!
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You don't come off as a jerk, I'm just venting here so that's expected that people like you would wonder what's wrong with me. My priorities are where they need to be I own all my possession, don't pay bills sept insurance and phone. I save and splurge on what I want. Driving an hour isn't rediculous when you live in a ghost town in the middle of nowhere and I was making 3 times the money when I got the Moment and Epic. Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. Oh forgot you can't unmount the SD and pop in another one. I knew what I was headed there for but I do expect a company be it a retail store or anyone to keep true to their word. That kinda was the point of calling ahead of time....twice. About the police you'd just have to live here to understand, getting in a verbal confrontation with a business owner is a reason to arrest alone, disturbing the peace. I closed my mouth and exited the store, so no childish acts there, I came here to vent instead . But by all means, your entitled to your opinions the matter not to me so I'm not hating on you for your post, **** I expect worse here shortly .
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No worries. Was just wondering and your answers all make sense. Points of view and descriptions of regionalism can easily bring things into perspective when high-tuned emotions are no longer driving thought. I still don't trust corporate America if I had 2 phone calls and a signed contract unless I had a million in the bank for legal fees to back my opinion up.
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So does LA State Troopers!
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I'd be more worried about laser with them boys.
First, S2000 is a cute little car. Where you driving with the top off? It would probably cool down your temperature afterward.
Second, I would have pissed all over the store, and take a crap on the table inside manager office (if he/she has one).
Third, I would take off running out the store with the phone.
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No worries. Was just wondering and your answers all make sense. Points of view and descriptions of regionalism can easily bring things into perspective when high-tuned emotions are no longer driving thought. I still don't trust corporate America if I had 2 phone calls and a signed contract unless I had a million in the bank for legal fees to back my opinion up.
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As far as my hobbies, since the decline of the economy, which I don't even much feel but others around me lost everything, android is keeping me sane until I'm allowed to personally feel productive again. I've been into hacking and tweaking the phone and it really give me that since of accomplishment, that's why I'm gadget jumping. I don't plan on stopping development for the Epic to move to the S, I'm planning on adding more options to what IS my hobby. I don't even plan on buying another device after this one. I said plenty times before, when the development phone from Google is supported on Sprint, I'll gladly jump on it. Until now I could only sit back and watch T-moble get the glory. I bought the Epic cause the original S was close but I never expected us to get one. It was like christmas for me.
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First, S2000 is a cute little car. Where you driving with the top off? It would probably cool down your temperature afterward.
Second, I would have pissed all over the store, and take a crap on the table inside manager office (if he/she has one).
Third, I would take off running out the store with the phone.
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LMFAO, much needed smile there! Top down both ways, it's hot as hell in Louisiana right now. Perfect weather before the rain season spoils it.
Must be a requirement
Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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I have to disagree. I realized ever since I've bought a cellphone it has always been from Best Buy and I've always been satisfied with sale, service, and warrantee/guarantees.
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Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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Corporate stores follow the rules strict. The only chance of getting it was a retail store since they "sort of" govern themselves. Awell, 3 more days
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Yay, Louisiana's a ****hole. The one thing you can rely on here is that someone will **** something up and then act like it's your fault.
I can't wait to leave this place.
First let me start off by saying I'm a noob, a virgo, and like taking long walks on the beach LOL. I have been lurking around for the past couple of months and have learned a lot from the great people that like to help and share information. This is indeed a great community of people. This is my first post so if it seems long winded I apologize. Now my reason for my thread title. I live in Phoenix AZ (I know it's a dry heat), I was watching the news tonight and they did a story on the search of cell phones by the police. It seems that in California if you get stopped for anything, traffic ticket, jay walking, ect. and your cell phone is within arms length of you, the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed! Yes that means anything and everything that is on your phone is free game (I find that a little strange since last year a husband went to court over accessing his wife's email and reading it.) But as the story was told California Supreme court upheld the ruling which again states that any person who comes in contact with a law enforcement officer can have their cell phone "looked at". This means call history, web sites visited, your phone book, and any and all information that is stored on your device. The only catch is that the device has to be within arms reach of the person. I am not a criminal, never even had a traffic ticket, but the thought of someone going through my phone drives me crazy. I keep my phone locked with a passcode, so would that mean that I would have to unlock my device for them to snoop through it? Anyway I found this interesting and I thought that I would share it with anyone who cares. My question is, of all of the talent that is in this community, has there ever been an app made like a "kill all pill", something that with just the touch of a button your device would be reset to factory settings and/or scrub the sd card? Just a thought. Once again thank you for allowing me to gain more knowledge of my device and to share in the community. Keep up the great work!
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First let me start off by saying I'm a noob, a virgo, and like taking long walks on the beach LOL. I have been lurking around for the past couple of months and have learned a lot from the great people that like to help and share information. This is indeed a great community of people. This is my first post so if it seems long winded I apologize. Now my reason for my thread title. I live in Phoenix AZ (I know it's a dry heat), I was watching the news tonight and they did a story on the search of cell phones by the police. It seems that in California if you get stopped for anything, traffic ticket, jay walking, ect. and your cell phone is within arms length of you, the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed! Yes that means anything and everything that is on your phone is free game (I find that a little strange since last year a husband went to court over accessing his wife's email and reading it.) But as the story was told California Supreme court upheld the ruling which again states that any person who comes in contact with a law enforcement officer can have their cell phone "looked at". This means call history, web sites visited, your phone book, and any and all information that is stored on your device. The only catch is that the device has to be within arms reach of the person. I am not a criminal, never even had a traffic ticket, but the thought of someone going through my phone drives me crazy. I keep my phone locked with a passcode, so would that mean that I would have to unlock my device for them to snoop through it? Anyway I found this interesting and I thought that I would share it with anyone who cares. My question is, of all of the talent that is in this community, has there ever been an app made like a "kill all pill", something that with just the touch of a button your device would be reset to factory settings and/or scrub the sd card? Just a thought. Once again thank you for allowing me to gain more knowledge of my device and to share in the community. Keep up the great work!
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I saw the same report about California on our news.
I have news for you, I will never consider living in that state.
That is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS and a step away from the government having video cameras in your house.
I don't know what you can do exactly.
If you ever get pulled over, send the ***** into your custom recovery and format all.
Scary what this country is turning into.
Just toss the phone in the back seat.
I'd actually be kinda curious about the existence of such an app, also....
Ridiculous is all I can say
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I'd tell them to **** themselves and take them to the supreme court. That's purely unconstitutional.
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One more step in complete government control .... I live in Cali and truth be told if it wasn't for my son(separated parents) I wouldn't even live in this country.
"praise the lord and pass the ammunition"
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I'd tell them to **** themselves and take them to the supreme court. That's purely unconstitutional.
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I completely agree with you but unfortunately in this day and age "unconstitutional" doesn't mean a damned thing.
The Patriot act is "unconstitutional"...
Actually I just decided to NOT list all the things that are "unconstitutional" that are realities, I don't have that kind of time.
This country went to **** years ago
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"Tase me, bro."
*smash*
*I'm assuming this is similar to the 'plug n' pull' (ya like that?) that was mentioned before. If all it takes is smashing the phone to ****, well, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If I just had pr0n on my phone I wouldn't even care. But that never touches my phone. Nor my computer; felt the need to add that. I'm talking serious business. Not that 'phone tapping' couldn't be possible (yes, it can happen to us all) but anything to shut an effort down. I'd even smash my rooted device and give up a chance of rooted glory for all the bull**** that could come of it. I hate cops. I've had some horrible experiences with them in the past. I'm not a 'blah blah f*ck you' to the face anymore, but I don't play that ****. You can instantly tell when a cop is on the push, and usually it is because you are in a bad situation. But some trivial ****? Nah, I don't, and won't, play that.
Keep your phone locked. If they ask for the pass code, tell them no.
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Keep your phone locked. If they ask for the pass code, tell them no.
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I don't think it works like that, provided this was similar to the talk before ... your 'ish' gets plugged in and by some 'miracle super duper government cop pull' they jack any and everything off your phone.
I'd like some clarification though. I haven't seen a link, but this sounds pretty similar to the talk before.
I'd honestly laugh if this was a, "Gimme your phone son. Ok, how do I see your 'texties?'"
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I don't think it works like that, provided this was similar to the talk before ... your 'ish' gets plugged in and by some miracle super duper government cop pull they jack any and everything off your phone.
I'd like some clarification though. I haven't seen a link, but this sounds pretty similar to the talk before.
I'd honeslty laugh if this was a, "Gimme your phone son. Ok, how do I see your 'texties.'"
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They have a device they can hook the phone up to which copies all of the data.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying this sounds like. 'That talk before.'
If you could honestly lock your phone and deny access, well, that's a massive failure on their part. That is what I was saying. It sounds like all that business mentioned a month or two ago.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying this sounds like. 'That talk before.'
If you could honestly lock your phone and deny access, well, that's a massive failure on their part. That is what I was saying. It sounds like all that business mentioned a month or two ago.
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Locking the phone will do nothing.
I suppose you can wipe the phone but, as we all know, the only way to truly destroy data is acid.
Right. If I am remembering correctly it was mentioned as such before. That's what I was saying. I wouldn't be surprised if this was being considered in Illinois. I should make a point of turning my phone off / removing the card everytime we / I get pulled over. Swallow the card if it appears suspect and smash the phone. I'd totally get tasered over as much.*
*tasers aren't that bad*
*yes, for fun
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This is BULL**** !
Im glad I live in Sin City
Just another reason for me to hate living in Cali. I must have missed the report but I remember about a month or so ago some state in the north eastern part of the us displayed a new device just for cell phones that police were beginning to use. Basically it comes with universal plug or what ever and totally scans phone in a matter of seconds. All contents are then stored in said device for further review. files included absolutely everything! Pictures, videos, internet history/cache, emails, call history etc. Welcome to socialism! California is leading the way.
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Just use titanium backup and dropbox. Then if being pulled over just boot to recovery and format all. Might still be able to recover the data though. We need a secure format option.
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Here is the key part:
eddiegaz said:
the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed!
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Police officers can ask for lots of things. You don't have to give it to them. If an officers asks if he can look in your trunk you can say no, if they ask to come into your house you can say no, if they ask you anything you can remain silent. So if you have something on your phone that you don't want the police to see, just say no when they ask if they can look at it.
I have seen police go to apartments where the neighbor reported that someone was smoking pot. They can smell the pot, but if no one answers the door, or the person who answers does not let them in they can't take any further action.
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Welcome to socialism! California is leading the way.
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While I won't dispute Cali's socialist leanings, this is NOT evidence of it. Evidense of Fascism? Sure is! Socialism? No. There are big differences between communism and socialsim, and both can be facist...but so can democracy. Fascism is the real evil. Socialism and communism are only theoretical evils that tend to die off as time progresses (though either one work very well in small communities. Funny thing: almost any humane fiscal system can work, and work well, on a small scale...it is when one starts dealing with larger societies that the sh1t hits the fan). But this is all far more political than is allowed.
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Here is the key part:
Police officers can ask for lots of things. You don't have to give it to them. If an officers asks if he can look in your trunk you can say no, if they ask to come into your house you can say no, if they ask you anything you can remain silent. So if you have something on your phone that you don't want the police to see, just say no when they ask if they can look at it.
I have seen police go to apartments where the neighbor reported that someone was smoking pot. They can smell the pot, but if no one answers the door, or the person who answers does not let them in they can't take any further action.
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Someone hasn't been paying attention to what is going on
What is "allowed" and what has been actually happening are two completely different things. Wanna see a video of people being body-slammed and tied up for dancing at the Jefferson monument? Minute 2:40 is when they tell someone that they will be arrested for continuing to record.
Here is a news report on the incident
Carrier IQ Tries to Censor Research With Baseless Legal Threat
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/carrieriq-censor-research-baseless-legal-threat
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...it-brouhaha/&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13220578434512
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...ny-carrieriq&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13220579318351
http://briefmobile.com/a-conversation-with-andrew-coward-marketing-vp-of-carrier-iq
http://briefmobile.com/breaking-carrier-iq-has-withdrawn-cease-and-desist-order-on-tevor-eckhart
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/...y-legal-threat-apologizes-security-researcher
Cease and desist for PUBLIC files posted on a PUBLIC web site? If people were on the fence about CIQ before, this should give them pause. When I first read about CIQ it seemed like a good way for my carrier to find additional information about dropped calls, but clearly it is much, much worse.
The reply outlined in the first PDF is one awesome legal kick in the nuts. Definitely beats my "lolumad" defense strategy.
CIQ is the devels syknet.
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
Several people seen this coming.
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i dont see how ciq isnt illegal.
no one signs a contract to allow them to monitor what we do on our phones.
that sort of thing should require a contract or atleast some knowledge to the people that buy these phones.
no one would willingly allow them to gather information on us and even sell it.
if we were being credited some money back for allowing them to use it, i guess that would be fair.
i honestly think its ridiculous.
this is only on sprint samsung and htc phones right?
They can, trust me, you wont find CIQ, but you will fi.d we can do what ever we want, pretty much.
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CIQ is DHS dream think about it people the patriot act.
This is just the kinda thing Big Gov loves. All they ask is the keys to the black door & they will look the other way.
Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
Interestingly, I clicked on the megaupload link in the legal response letter and it is still active.
http://www.multiupload.com/BAAKNNSM3J
The rar file contains the training materials and stock CIQ client apps in question. I figured I would post the link in case the EFF article and pdf's mysteriously disappear.
PC Jona said:
no one signs a contract to allow them to monitor what we do on our phones.
that sort of thing should require a contract or atleast some knowledge to the people that buy these phones.
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Well it may be in our contract. I haven't read the contract, like ~75+% of carrier customers, so we could have agreed to allow Sprint to gather metrics. Regardless of the intrusiveness of this tool, it could be argued that only the metrics gathering segments would be activated. Of course there are always counter arguments.
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no one would willingly allow them to gather information on us and even sell it.
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Uh... yes they would. If the big 4 carriers in the US all had this on their phones, what are the customers options for cell service? The demand for the service would outweigh the need for privacy. Prime example is the Aviation industry and the TSA.
Now in the portal-
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
Again, these comments are all about worst case scenarios of what this software COULD do, not what it does.
It's about time CIQ and Sprint make some public statements about what this software is collecting. The silence just adds to the paranoia.
So, an interesting discovery lol.
Could you guys look into /dev if you're rooted for me? CM7/MIUI/Stock, it doesn't matter I'm only curious about something.
you guys can't really be surprised about this. Look at the SOPA law running though and how it can devastate how the internet works(torrent sites will still be accessable through typing ip addresses so its really not targetting piracy). AT&T has an agreement with the NSA where the NSA basically can see anything your doing on those phones. Carrier IQ is Verizon and Sprint's Big Brother method. The Patriot Act covers landlines.
sent from my Epic... in the middle of somewhere.
Can someone on stock, look into /dev on their phones and tell me if they see TtyCIQ0, please lol.
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Can someone on stock, look into /dev on their phones and tell me if they see TtyCIQ0, please lol.
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On stock (rooted) EI22, ttyCIQ0 is in /dev. I assume that is what you meant.
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On stock (rooted) EI22, ttyCIQ0 is in /dev. I assume that is what you meant.
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Yes, it's CIQ from the kernel side. It's fine however, it's not interfacing with the framework, as far as I know. I wanted to be sure that it wasn't some random thing. It's still present in our kernel nonetheless. In our current source in the parts we don't use there are supposedly 90 instances of CIQ. But only 2 lines closely regarding it involving us. All the others are gone due to framework.
That's funny, Android Central posted about this just a bit ago.
http://www.androidcentral.com/security-advocate-eff-go-toe-toe-data-collection-company-carrieriq
Check briefmobile.com Korey had a discussion with ciq.
I'll keep the OP updated as this topic receives more press.
i just saw where they passed a law against cell phone use whether it be hand held or hands free in chapel hill n.c.while driving.... didn't think that with all the money cell companies are making they would ever let this get going...once it starts anywhere it usually spreds....i'm not wanting to get into a debate about cell phone usage danger and trust me i have seen it a lot being on the road with my job...but it looks like a lot of confusion coming with having to find places to pull of the road especially in the country road areas to handle a business deal or a personal call..just my 2 cents worth.
We've had that law in California for a while now.
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NY Passed a no hand held devices like 12 yrs ago. I really can't see how they can stop you from using a hands free device. For one thing, how can anyone even SEE a an ear piece while your driving? They gonna ban all talking while driving next?
Some states allow you to use a hands free device as long as its already built into the vehicle.
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A cell phone is just as dangerous/distracting as makeup,shaving, radio, or other people, pets in the car.
Just my 2 cents,
Michigan outlawed texting. But not phones or other phone activities.
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I agree I usually just answer calls not txt since I keep my phone where I can reach it at all times with out taking eyes off the road, yesterday I passed someone with both arms on top of the steering wheel texting while going 80mph
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A cell phone is just as dangerous/distracting as makeup,shaving, radio, or other people, pets in the car.
Just my 2 cents,
Michigan outlawed texting. But not phones or other phone activities.
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it is coming brother... the Feds are mandating that ALL states pass some sort of hand held device law or risk losing federal funding for road repairs/upkeep. I gotta say anyone that argues this is a damn idiot. I commute 80 miles to work and have been damn near run off the road about once a week because some jack ass is talking on the phone or texting. I also am a motorcycle rider. If you drift into my lane, you are getting steel ballbearings into you windshield!
Yeah, I'm not sure how they would enforce this either. More and more cars nowadays have integrated bluetooth audio, or one can add aftermarket devices to do this. I guess they can catch people texting while driving (which I agree, is a crazy thing to do anyways).
I think texting is the worst. I'm a teenager and I have tried to text and drive but I don't do it anymore because of how difficult it is.
But other teens gladly take that risk
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In Washington your legally able to use a phone while driving if its a phone call on speaker or blue tooth or to report ilegal crimes you witnessed or just anything related to 911
All the super multi taskers here raise your hand.
Text while driving, smoking a blunt, adjusting amp gain and beating 2 fighting kids in the back seat, same time. True story.
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All the super multi taskers here raise your hand.
Text while driving, smoking a blunt, adjusting amp gain and beating 2 fighting kids in the back seat, same time. True story.
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real responsible parenting there bro... smoke a blunt, blast the music and beat your kids LOL just giving you **** bro.
austin420 said:
All the super multi taskers here raise your hand.
Text while driving, smoking a blunt, adjusting amp gain and beating 2 fighting kids in the back seat, same time. True story.
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Lol this is why my wife drives, then I don't have to waste my time with that damn steering wheel when the kids start fighting over who got the better happy meal toy "boy I don't gotta wait to pull this car over I'll climb back there and show you who's got the better toy when i knock you upside the head with it"
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