Parents--teaching them new technology is a pain in the a--! - EVO 4G General

My mother and father (69 and 70, respectively) have had very old and basic flip phones from AT&T Wireless for several years. Well, their service basically has sucked, and their monthly rates are way too much for what they have. So, my dad decided to do a major upgrade and get smart phones for him and my mom. Moreover, to save money--they're both retired--I recommended they go on my Sprint account and we get the family plan. I live 30 minutes from them and get a nice discount of 25% from Sprint, so everyone's overall costs would be less than what we currently pay. Plus, with a great promotion this week, I could get them a new HTC EVO and the Samsung EPIC at a total cost of $99 then two $50 rebates. Net cost = a credit of $1! Nice.
My mom demanded a slideout QWERTY keyboard; hence my recommending the EPIC. She didn't need the phone rooted, so I left hers as stock. I rooted my dad's EVO so his would be like mine and my sister's, whose I just also rooted. My brother in another state has a nonrooted EVO.
Well, I got the phones in Monday, worked on them yesterday (rooting, putting apps on, setting up some things for them, etc.) and today went to their house to sit them down and play Smart Phone Teacher for a day (well, for a few hours at least). As expected, things didn't go as I had hoped. My father? No big problem, because my sister can always help him since she has an EVO (she lives with them because she's a single mom, so she's there to assist him).
Well, got home about an hour ago. As I expected, it didn't go that well with my mom. She has all the patience of an ice cube in a frying pan set on high. My father is playing with his rooted EVO and seems to like it (he has always been a techie sort of guy, though he always ends up calling me for technical support--crap).
My mom just may be a lost cause. I was at their place at 1:00 p.m. I gave each of them their phones and tried to explain some basic stuff (what Android is, what these phones can do, etc.). Of course, my dad ignores me, toys around with his EVO, then just walks out and leaves to do other things. I remain with my mom to try and tell her how to do some stuff on the Epic (set up and check Emails, add contacts, make phone calls, send/receive text messages, go to the Internet, add/use apps, etc.). Of course, it didn't take her long to start *****ing about how she has "no patience for this crap." So I simply yelled at her and said, "Then learn to have some patience for a change and get into the 21st century!"
Within a couple hours, they had to leave for an early dinner engagement with her sister and brother-in-law (my aunt and uncle). Upon my parents' return, I was still at their house finishing up putting Warm2.2 on my sister's EVO and having dinner with her and her daughter, my niece.
My dad walks in and I hear him yelling at my mom, "...well, you can't get the old phone back. Learn how to use it!" They walk into the rec room and my mom tosses her phone down on the table near me *****ing, "Take this phone back. I don't want it. I don't have the patience to learn this!"
To this I retort, "You're frickin' retired. You have plenty of time to learn how to use it. You're just being lazy and not wanting to learn something new. Take the phone and the manual and go to your bedroom. Read the entire manual like you're reading a book so you can see just what the phone can and will do. When you're done, start playing around with it."
"I don't care. That won't work. I hate this touch thing. It doesn't work for me," she replies as she picks up the tossed phone and starts pressing wildly all over the screen. Of course, I have to tell her that she has to use the touch screen in a recommended manner. "You can't just go pressing anywhere on the screen to scroll around, because sometimes there's nothing to scroll or nothing to respond on the screen," I advised her.
I then reminded her that as a woman, she can't use her finger nails. She can use the slide out keyboard for that. I downloaded and installed both Iris and Vlingo for her, telling her that those apps might help do certain tasks that she otherwise would do using the touch screen or keyboard, but then she *****ed about having to learn those.
Unbelievable.
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I told her that she had 14 days to decide if she wanted the phone. If not, then she'd get some basic flip phone with no Internet, no Email, no cool ring tones, and limited text messaging, among other absent, nice things.
Her biggest problem, again, is that she simply has ZERO patience (I'm not talking a little; I mean absolutely NONE). She won't listen; she won't pay attention; she assumes everything; she finishes my sentences when I try to explain things to her (it's like I'm playing a game of Mad Libs); then she *****es when she can't figure something out.
If I become anything like her, someone please--shoot me.

what in the exact hell was the point of posting this in the development section, really...
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Move it, then. I clicked on the wrong section heading.

Interesting to read but why in the development section? Do you want to test out your flame retardant suit? because you will get burned now that you have done this.
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this has to be the stupidest topic I've ever seen on here. How disrespectful can u be to the woman who birthed u. Someone delete this crap.
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bobarune said:
Interesting to read but why in the development section? Do you want to test out your flame retardant suit? because you will get burned now that you have done this.
my evo is aggressively runny
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I had several browser tabs open on this forum (was working on multiple topics) and wasn't paying attention to the section, obviously. I requested a mod move this, as I hadn't intended to post it in this section.
Hey! I'm getting old. Sometimes I can't multi-task that well.

interesting topic. thanks for the enjoyment darth . either way anyone responding to this topic with "why post this in this development section" is dumb enough to state the obvious.
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I agree. That's why I've Emailed the mods to request it be moved, so people, enough. I know it was mislocated.

Lord Darth Vader said:
My mother and father (69 and 70, respectively) have had very old and basic flip phones from AT&T Wireless for several years. Well, their service basically has sucked, and their monthly rates are way too much for what they have. So, my dad decided to do a major upgrade and get smart phones for him and my mom. Moreover, to save money--they're both retired--I recommended they go on my Sprint account and we get the family plan. I live 30 minutes from them and get a nice discount of 25% from Sprint, so everyone's overall costs would be less than what we currently pay. Plus, with a great promotion this week, I could get them a new HTC EVO and the Samsung EPIC at a total cost of $99 then two $50 rebates. Net cost = a credit of $1! Nice.
My mom demanded a slideout QWERTY keyboard; hence my recommending the EPIC. She didn't need the phone rooted, so I left hers as stock. I rooted my dad's EVO so his would be like mine and my sister's, whose I just also rooted. My brother in another state has a nonrooted EVO.
Well, I got the phones in Monday, worked on them yesterday (rooting, putting apps on, setting up some things for them, etc.) and today went to their house to sit them down and play Smart Phone Teacher for a day (well, for a few hours at least). As expected, things didn't go as I had hoped. My father? No big problem, because my sister can always help him since she has an EVO (she lives with them because she's a single mom, so she's there to assist him).
Well, got home about an hour ago. As I expected, it didn't go that well with my mom. She has all the patience of an ice cube in a frying pan set on high. My father is playing with his rooted EVO and seems to like it (he has always been a techie sort of guy, though he always ends up calling me for technical support--crap).
My mom just may be a lost cause. I was at their place at 1:00 p.m. I gave each of them their phones and tried to explain some basic stuff (what Android is, what these phones can do, etc.). Of course, my dad ignores me, toys around with his EVO, then just walks out and leaves to do other things. I remain with my mom to try and tell her how to do some stuff on the Epic (set up and check Emails, add contacts, make phone calls, send/receive text messages, go to the Internet, add/use apps, etc.). Of course, it didn't take her long to start *****ing about how she has "no patience for this crap." So I simply yelled at her and said, "Then learn to have some patience for a change and get into the 21st century!"
Within a couple hours, they had to leave for an early dinner engagement with her sister and brother-in-law (my aunt and uncle). Upon my parents' return, I was still at their house finishing up putting Warm2.2 on my sister's EVO and having dinner with her and her daughter, my niece.
My dad walks in and I hear him yelling at my mom, "...well, you can't get the old phone back. Learn how to use it!" They walk into the rec room and my mom tosses her phone down on the table near me *****ing, "Take this phone back. I don't want it. I don't have the patience to learn this!"
To this I retort, "You're frickin' retired. You have plenty of time to learn how to use it. You're just being lazy and not wanting to learn something new. Take the phone and the manual and go to your bedroom. Read the entire manual like you're reading a book so you can see just what the phone can and will do. When you're done, start playing around with it."
"I don't care. That won't work. I hate this touch thing. It doesn't work for me," she replies as she picks up the tossed phone and starts pressing wildly all over the screen. Of course, I have to tell her that she has to use the touch screen in a recommended manner. "You can't just go pressing anywhere on the screen to scroll around, because sometimes there's nothing to scroll or nothing to respond on the screen," I advised her.
I then reminded her that as a woman, she can't use her finger nails. She can use the slide out keyboard for that. I downloaded and installed both Iris and Vlingo for her, telling her that those apps might help do certain tasks that she otherwise would do using the touch screen or keyboard, but then she *****ed about having to learn those.
Unbelievable.
I told her that she had 14 days to decide if she wanted the phone. If not, then she'd get some basic flip phone with no Internet, no Email, no cool ring tones, and limited text messaging, among other absent, nice things.
Her biggest problem, again, is that she simply has ZERO patience (I'm not talking a little; I mean absolutely NONE). She won't listen; she won't pay attention; she assumes everything; she finishes my sentences when I try to explain things to her (it's like I'm playing a game of Mad Libs); then she *****es when she can't figure something out.
If I become anything like her, someone please--shoot me.
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This is Bull****. Who cares.

No, it's true. No one forced you to read it, pinhead.

This why I refuse to have kids after 60.
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LOL. Well, I'm certainly not some tech genius in his 20s (or even 30s, for that matter).
My parents aren't typical senior citizens. They admittedly don't look or act their age. They're in remarkable good, physical condition for their ages. Well, maybe my mom's impatience is more typical. Who knows?

What in the hell is babbling about?
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Whoa I'm sorry... I thought I clicked on Development, not pointless random story section.
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Do you feel proud coming here spewing your tales of douchery and disrespect towards your mother? Have you considered the fact that not everyone can grasp the advancements in technology as fast as you? You should be ashamed of both the way you acted towards the woman that birthed/raised you, and the fact that you actually came here to tell us about it.
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to those saying his disrespecting his mother get over it lol i found it rather amusing a and to the jerks saying why is it a in a dev thread come on once was all that was needed he explained himself on why it was here it happens. but i feel ur pain my grandpa is 100% lost when it comes to anything hell he can barely work his dvd player lol and my grandma isnt to much better with the tech she has. she got a reg flip phone and couldnt figure out how to answer it for like 2 weeks haha.

Thanks, CK. The sooner a mod can relocate this thread the better. Pay no attention to Kommodo, who obviously has no sense of humor. He/she would have to know my mother, because my father and sister both agree that she's being ridiculous.

Lord Darth Vader said:
Thanks, CK. The sooner a mod can relocate this thread the better. Pay no attention to Kommodo, who obviously has no sense of humor. He/she would have to know my mother, because my father and sister both agree that she's being ridiculous.
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Lol me and my family feel that way about my grandpa half the time lol
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Lord Darth Vader said:
Thanks, CK. The sooner a mod can relocate this thread the better. Pay no attention to Kommodo, who obviously has no sense of humor. He/she would have to know my mother, because my father and sister both agree that she's being ridiculous.
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First, its Kommodore not Kommodo. Second I have a sense of humor, but not when it comes to bashing your mother for not being technically minded. You said yourself that they had a basic phone for years. And yet you think that only after a couple of hours of training she was going to be an expert?
Lord Darth Vader said:
As expected, things didn't go as I had hoped.
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Going in with a negitive attitude, way to set the bar low. At that point any sign of failure or confusion is amplified.
Lord Darth Vader said:
my sister can always help him since she has an EVO (she lives with them because she's a single mom, so she's there to assist him).
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First, maybe let her try to help your mother. Second, honestly why do we need to know the reason she is living there? Not bashing it or her but do we really need this tidbit of info amongst this?
Lord Darth Vader said:
So I simply yelled at her and said, "Then learn to have some patience for a change and get into the 21st century!"
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So when someone does not understand something because it is new or unfamiliar you response is to simply yell at them? I seriously hope that you are not in a position that you have people working under you.
Lord Darth Vader said:
Take the phone and the manual and go to your bedroom. Read the entire manual like you're reading a book so you can see just what the phone can and will do. When you're done, start playing around with it."
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Really? Sending your mother to her room. Im surprised she didn't slap you across your smartass mouth for that comment. I know my mother would have, but I don't have to pop off to her to find that out she raised me better than that.
Lord Darth Vader said:
I then reminded her that as a woman, she can't use her finger nails. She can use the slide out keyboard for that.
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Wow, sexist much?
You are the one that needs the patients, not you mother. I had a similar experience with my parents moving from the Razors to the Evo. I never once spoke to my mother in the tone/language that you have. But after a couple of days she was calling me telling me how she used her phone that day.
Remember patience my young Skywalker.

Warm 2.2? At least bring them up to date man. Lots of benefits with gb.
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Caught a thief red handed...

Excuse my typing below but its 4:15AM...I've been drinking..
So I went out with a few "car forum" buddies out today. We decided to head to local bowling alley which honestly ****ing hate. So we're playing there and I decide to leave my phone at a chair in the area we're in. So I see an old ex co-worker, he's 2 buddies and some girl. I say what's up, etc. After they dip...within a minute I'm looking for my phone and I'm like ****...looking everywhere..nothing. I don't forget my phone ever so I know I left it on the chair next to my friend's keys, etc. So I tell my buddy to go outside with me cause I just had a feeling that one of these guys might've taken them.... So as I'm walking outside they look over and I call my ex co-worker over to ask him if he's seen my phone which looks like an iPhone (Samsung Vibrant Galaxy S..lol). And he's like nah man sorry. At the same time I notice one of his friends step over a few feet and get next to some beige looking Crown Vic and acts like he's looking at the tire...I paid no attention to that. And I'm thinking to myself..damn I left the phone on vibrate. But then I remembered I purchased an app called "Where's my droid" and set special "words" that if I text it it can switch off vibrate and turn the ringer to the highest volume and even turn on the GPS so I can track it. So I text it with my friend's phone. Within 30 seconds I hear the phone ringing....I'm looking and looking...and I see it at the Crown Vics rear passenger tire. Then one of them which wasn't the one starts to get all defensive...."That isn't my car"...."I drive that car there"....and at the same time Im telling him that I don't think the Vibrant grew legs and walked over by this tire. He's buddy was the one who stole it. My ex coworker and his girl were in shock that their 2 friends just did that ****. Before even a fight could break out in the parking lot my buddy calm me down.
In this stories current state...its pretty much the worst.story.evar.
I cant wait to read the sobered up version. Glad you took drunken notes. Kinda fun to read.
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shoulda ripped him a new one.
Finish Him
People these days. Why let your buddy talk you out of a fight. My screen name says it all. Smash punks. You let him get away with it, he will try again. I'd kill that fool.
A clever ploy for an advertisement! Glad you got your phone back mate
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zaduma said:
Finish Him
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Lol...time for some Mortal Kombat!
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Finish Him
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I'll admit I laughed out loud at this comment. Ouch, just noticed I spelled thief incorrectly in the title block.
flexnix said:
I'll admit I laughed out loud at this comment. Ouch, just noticed I spelled thief incorrectly in the title block.
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Haha, good to know. Anyways please don't change your story now that you're awake and sober. It is a - mazing.
I put that app on every android I get to play with. It works very well. I guess Latitude would be just as effective, well maybe not.
10/10 this thread rules. Would read again
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flexnix said:
Excuse my typing below but its 4:15AM...I've been drinking..
So I went out with a few "car forum" buddies out today. We decided to head to local bowling alley which honestly ****ing hate. So we're playing there and I decide to leave my phone at a chair in the area we're in. So I see an old ex co-worker, he's 2 buddies and some girl. I say what's up, etc. After they dip...within a minute I'm looking for my phone and I'm like ****...looking everywhere..nothing. I don't forget my phone ever so I know I left it on the chair next to my friend's keys, etc. So I tell my buddy to go outside with me cause I just had a feeling that one of these guys might've taken them.... So as I'm walking outside they look over and I call my ex co-worker over to ask him if he's seen my phone which looks like an iPhone (Samsung Vibrant Galaxy S..lol). And he's like nah man sorry. At the same time I notice one of his friends step over a few feet and get next to some beige looking Crown Vic and acts like he's looking at the tire...I paid no attention to that. And I'm thinking to myself..damn I left the phone on vibrate. But then I remembered I purchased an app called "Where's my droid" and set special "words" that if I text it it can switch off vibrate and turn the ringer to the highest volume and even turn on the GPS so I can track it. So I text it with my friend's phone. Within 30 seconds I hear the phone ringing....I'm looking and looking...and I see it at the Crown Vics rear passenger tire. Then one of them which wasn't the one starts to get all defensive...."That isn't my car"...."I drive that car there"....and at the same time Im telling him that I don't think the Vibrant grew legs and walked over by this tire. He's buddy was the one who stole it. My ex coworker and his girl were in shock that their 2 friends just did that ****. Before even a fight could break out in the parking lot my buddy calm me down.
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So this is the clean-n-sober version...? Whew....
Lookout is free & does the find my phone gig.
-bZj
down8 said:
So this is the clean-n-sober version...? Whew....
Lookout is free & does the find my phone gig.
-bZj
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I've never tried Where's My Droid..I have Lookout but I also have another app called SMS Commander that does the same thing and a lot more. You can silence it, set it to loud or vibrate too. You can send it a command to forward all the texts going to it to another phone. You can get the location of your phone. You can set it on Spy Mode and it will fwd SMS messages to whatever number you want, tell you phone #'s that call your phone and even send you GPS location of your phone when the call was answered or placed. You can even send it a command to send someone a text message and it will look like it came from your phone. This app works great. I've had it since my G1 days..I installed it on my Nexus, my MyTouch Slide and my Vibrant.
smashpunks said:
People these days. Why let your buddy talk you out of a fight. My screen name says it all. Smash punks. You let him get away with it, he will try again. I'd kill that fool.
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Bit much but I understand. I do agree that the OP should have beat the **** out of him. It is true they will do it again.
So you didn't do anything? Let the dude put your phone behind a tire and thats it? 500 bucks?
Smash people yo
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Bit much but I understand. I do agree that the OP should have beat the **** out of him. It is true they will do it again.
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Didn't really mean kill, but I would have totally cleaned his clock... I can't believe people wouldn't do that out of natural reaction. Dude jacked him and he just took phone back..... wow. No wonder people do **** like that..
Good think he didn't need his GPS to find it, it would have sent him to another city with the system wonderful GPS.lol
and what would happen if one just did a hard reset on the phone? or switched it off? lol
...because everybody knows violence solves any problem.
Is this forum full of cavemen or what (no offense Geico dude)? Maybe the real learning moment here is to not set down a $500 phone and walk away. Definitely a good read, and I think you've convinced me to install one of these apps, because you never know.
And to the Neanderthals with all the great advice above, for the love of humanity, please don't procreate.
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...because everybody knows violence solves any problem.
Is this forum full of cavemen or what (no offense Geico dude)? Maybe the real learning moment here is to not set down a $500 phone and walk away. Definitely a good read, and I think you've convinced me to install one of these apps, because you never know.
And to the Neanderthals with all the great advice above, for the love of humanity, please don't procreate.
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Yea I agree, fight the urges that make you a human because some of us can't taken a whoopin.
Instead, pull your XD40 out of it's holster and ... Oh right.
On a serious note: Sometimes violence is the answer. Don't just eat everything mommy feeds you.
Yeah I mean I woulda fought him, dude tried to **** you over, but I mean shady people like that should go to jail for a night atleast if people weren't gonna let y'all fight

I'm about to rage on Best Buy for Zagg install

So I went to best buy a few hours ago to get a screen protector for my newly replace Evo. Sadly there was not much of a selection so I went with the Zagg invisible shield one. As I as about to go to the front to pay the mobile person said that he could install it for me if I wanted for $7. I said ok why not I hate installing screen protectors anyway. So he got it on and it was crooked so I told him that it's no good. He tried again and used more solution spray. I got a little worried about the amount he was using and told him maybe that's a little too much spray. He said don't worry it will be ok. Well flash forward to now, I just turned on my Evo and guess what? Solution leaked under the screen!!! I'm about to flip!
Oh no ****ed that guy talk **** to him that you want a brand new evo and to the manager
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verse187 said:
Oh no ****ed that guy talk **** to him that you want a brand new evo and to the manager
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Yea, I just wish tomorrow would come already so I can head down there. I am angry beyond belief. This phone is 2 days old rooted and all my apps, now I have to flash it back to stock and head down there at the crack of dawn to have them most likely give me a hard time about this.
Dammit man...that sucks. Hope you get that resolved. Refund and replace if you ask me.
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I dont like best buy.
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Yea, I just wish tomorrow would come already so I can head down there. I am angry beyond belief. This phone is 2 days old rooted and all my apps, now I have to flash it back to stock and head down there at the crack of dawn to have them most likely give me a hard time about this.
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You are about to have a hard time with them... they are complete dumb asses at bb.. they are gonna try to play lost with you, just ask for the manager as soon as you walk in. He/ she will play dumb too, then ask for the district manager, then they will get you a little white box out the cabinet, say hello to your new evo!
From past experience with same issue!
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LOL, why did you walk out of the store without checking first. Huge mistake on your part. If there was an error, it should have been fixed right then and there no problems.
I dont know if there is any garentee to protect you. But good luck, hope the fix it or at least get a refund.
This could get interesting make a huge scene then walk with a new evo
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You are about to have a hard time with them... they are complete dumb asses at bb.. they are gonna try to play lost with you, just ask for the manager as soon as you walk in. He/ she will play dumb too, then ask for the district manager, then they will get you a little white box out the cabinet, say hello to your new evo!
From past experience with same issue!
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That is exactly my game plan! I will be playing no games with this tomorrow and will not leave until they do so. What a great way to spend my day off
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LOL, why did you walk out of the store without checking first. Huge mistake on your part. If there was an error, it should have been fixed right then and there no problems.
I dont know if there is any garentee to protect you. But good luck, hope the fix it or at least get a refund.
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I took a quick look at it after he was done with it and everything looked fine. I am guessing the solution made it under the screen with time.
Had the same happen to me at bb and they replaced my evo with no problem.
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lol no chance in hell i would have walked out .
Yeah that's some **** you need to be on / get back on.
And I mean GET THE **** BACK ON. Like, some HELL NO ****.
I mean, BB is full of idiots - this we know - but **** like that .... pssh. LOL
Get back in there and explain that ****. And MAKE SURE they don't send you out. WIthout being physical and overly abusive - verbally I mean.
**** like that is what gives these places - and their employees - a bad name.
internet tough guys are funny so is gangster talk
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Cheesy is CHEESY!
Honestly, sometimes it takes a push ... a verbal push, if you will. You know how many people probably have other people put screen protectors on - for whatever reason - and they just suck? And they just walk out with em?
Just being real.
There are people that won't stand for horse **** ... and there are others that will. It's not about "appearing" tough here or there ... it's like getting anything applied / installed and it not being right but "dealing with it." Shouldn't even have to ask. ****ing say something. LOL
Internet tough guy aside ... and you clearly jumped the gun.
Thanks though, I've seen you post before.\
edit: on that note; do you do anything but post bull**** and / or ask questions?
Honest question.
Because, honestly, I see nothing but - and in this case, nothing but a half decades old picture and bull****-run-of-the-mill-every-other-god-damn-forum-thread-post picture. And dude, you really did use that prematurely ... the bandwagon you're jumping on - this "internet tough guy" **** that has been going on for a while - AROUND HERE AT LEAST, is starting to get out of hand. In the way that people are starting to "diagnose" too much as such. It's a Forum. You clearly don't show up looking to impress the English Majors. Most folks are not worried about spelling errors and "complete sentences." Most, read; the majority - and even the people you admire and adore - couldn't care less about that ****.
So you post your cute pictures.
I hope you like mine.
Please, in the future, if you are going to TRY and be demonstrative ... don't post bull**** before the fact. Or at least as often as you do ... because, well, just ..... no.
If you couldn't install one of those by yourself kinda your fault bro... nit a hard process. I had one for months. It got mucked up underneath took it off been without it. No scratches. I'm on a dinc but same idea. It isn't needed
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If you couldn't install one of those by yourself kinda your fault bro... nit a hard process. I had one for months. It got mucked up underneath took it off been without it. No scratches. I'm on a dinc but same idea. It isn't needed
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True.
But, to be fair ... those "liquid" applicators can throw a first timer for a loop ... or whatever.
It can be daunting because you don't know how much / little to use. And I've seen people go overkill with that ish.
That being said ... yes, do it yourself. That's the best way. I mean, these assholes' as BB know little more - if anything - than you do. At least when it comes to their "mobile department."
With that being said about that being said ... should you be so worried, I've heard of others having them do it and when / if they **** up then they are obligated to grab a new one and begin again. If I saw dude doing the same one over and over I'd say something ... can never be embarrassed to question someone who should know what they're doing.
It was like a kid, asking someone to cut out a cut in their griptape ... once I started to work a shop ... **** that, I nailed it or if dude asked for something stupid I said do it themselves. Always worked. I mean, your average consumer can only be so competent.
Make sure the solution isn't just under the protector and will evaporate in a day or so, I've heard that in the past referring to these type of accessories.
i would try using ghost armor. its the best screen protector out there. i had my whole evo done in ghost armor. they use the same material on helicoptor blades to keep it from chipping from flying debre. and you get a lifetime replacement as long as you have your phone. google it for a store near you
Same thing
Happened to me, left a visible shadow like mark on my screen for over a month, out did eventually go away completely,
I also left fingerprints on it so I went to the mall and a zagg booth replaced and installed for only 5 bucks
Zagg makes a good product for protection, it does however seem to yellow after time, of course that could be the oil in. my hands doing that.
Also the feel of it isn't as smooth, it kinda interferes if your a swyper like me.
In closing I will say my phone doesn't have evan a blemish on it, looks as good as it does second week of launch.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......

iPhone 3.0 user since launch. got Atrix yesterday. Want to return it.

I've been an iPhone user since the launch of 3.0. Problems here and there, nothing too major. But I wanted a new phone after my contract was up. Nothing for a few months. Then, the Attic. So yesterday I got it. From the moment I stepped out, NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. Now, some if. It most are not really Android problems but if they work on the iPhone they should work in general. I'm so pissed I want to return it but I'm not sure what'll happen to my contract (they overrode and let me keep unlimited).
1) No voicemail. Not Atrix but AT&T. So angry.
2) My school email doesn't work unless I download a 3rd party app. What is this? With apple, one mail app and everything in it. Works perfectly. This is a big deal for me. Gmail works perfectly, but...
3) Contacts is ****ed beyond belief. I add gmail and it adds everyone who I've ever emailed or enailed me as a contact. Merging takes forever. This also pissed me off.
4) Hardware issue. Which retard put the power button in the BACK of the phone? Great way to turn it on flat on a table.
4) tap to correct. Iphone tap and it puts the cursor where you are and then asks what you want to do. Android? Menu pops up and I have to choose select text.
In all, this is by far the worst first impression of a phone I have EVER had. I hate it so much and I hope I can return it without adverse effects on my unlimited data plan. To those that day u need time to get used to it, how can I get used to it when half of what I want to do doesn't work?
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Let me be clear. I fixed some of these issues after factory resets:4 of them. This phone has caused me nothing but aggravation. I fixed google contacts and my friend with an Ego is helping me customize it. I hope to god someone will post a bootloader or whatever it is. Maybe ill like the phone. Im giving ituntil monday and then tuesday I return it.
Thanks for posting this wonderful insight in the *Development* section of the forum.
which part of your post is to do with deveopment?
WRONG SECTION!!!!
Oops. Sorry guys, my bad. Can someone move it?
And don't wait - with the mindset you're already in, just go back to the iPhone where you don't get the choices and options. Android is not for everybody...
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3) Contacts is ****ed beyond belief. I add gmail and it adds everyone who I've ever emailed or enailed me as a contact. Merging takes forever. This also pissed me off.
4) tap to correct. Iphone tap and it puts the cursor where you are and then asks what you want to do. Android? Menu pops up and I have to choose select text.
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3) There is a filter. You have to activate it in the menu. This confused me as well.
4) Tap once really short. If you tap longer, the mentioned menu pops up.
so what do you want to accomplish with these rants? you're probably not cut out for android. return it the attrix and make-up to your iphone. tell the csr, you want to keep everything intact and give you back your upgrade option, pay the 15% restocking fee and be done with it. no more frustrations and rantings like a teenage, and live happily ever after with iphone.
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And don't wait - with the mindset you're already in, just go back to the iPhone where you don't get the choices and options. Android is not for everybody...
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The reason I did not get the iphone 4 is because I thought the biggest best android would have the best to offer. So I waited. I love choice. But when simple things go wrong along with first day frustration? Incredibly bad. I'm at a loss over the emailing thing and the hardware thing. I think my friend is going to install some volume rocker on/off thing for me.
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I hope to god someone will post a bootloader or whatever it is. Maybe ill like the phone. Im giving ituntil monday and then tuesday I return it.
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Noooo, please don't!!! We need you, don't leave us..!!!
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And don't wait - with the mindset you're already in, just go back to the iPhone where you don't get the choices and options. Android is not for everybody...
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lol.
Most of us like standard not automatic, l hate windows and mac but love linux.
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And don't wait - with the mindset you're already in, just go back to the iPhone where you don't get the choices and options. Android is not for everybody...
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+1000
But seriously if your not willing to take the time to learn android as you took time to learn your iPhone then stfu about it and stick with your iPhone 4. Don't complain because its not an iPhone.
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This entire forum gives you a love/hate relationship for Android phones.
I hate my iPhone 4. Nothing works on it but texting and calling (at least usually) facebook is ****, email is ****, signal is ****, its slow, buttons dont respond.
But it sounds like I'm not getting any sort of upgrade with another Android. I broke my Galaxy S in half. Literally half. Maybe I'll keep waiting for another phone and not the Atrix.
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so what do you want to accomplish with these rants? you're probably not cut out for android. return it the attrix and make-up to your iphone. tell the csr, you want to keep everything intact and give you back your upgrade option, pay the 15% restocking fee and be done with it. no more frustrations and rantings like a teenage, and live happily ever after with iphone.
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I was hoping someone else was in similar shoes about the frustrations.
My friend loves the phone. I igure if he can get it to work ill keep it and hopefully it never dies or whatever.
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3) There is a filter. You have to activate it in the menu. This confused me as well.
4) Tap once really short. If you tap longer, the mentioned menu pops up.
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Thanks TinyRK. I figures thus on my third reset.
pfaction said:
I've been an iPhone user since the launch of 3.0. Problems here and there, nothing too major. But I wanted a new phone after my contract was up. Nothing for a few months. Then, the Attic. So yesterday I got it. From the moment I stepped out, NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. Now, some if. It most are not really Android problems but if they work on the iPhone they should work in general. I'm so pissed I want to return it but I'm not sure what'll happen to my contract (they overrode and let me keep unlimited).
1) No voicemail. Not Atrix but AT&T. So angry.
2) My school email doesn't work unless I download a 3rd party app. What is this? With apple, one mail app and everything in it. Works perfectly. This is a big deal for me. Gmail works perfectly, but...
3) Contacts is ****ed beyond belief. I add gmail and it adds everyone who I've ever emailed or enailed me as a contact. Merging takes forever. This also pissed me off.
4) Hardware issue. Which retard put the power button in the BACK of the phone? Great way to turn it on flat on a table.
4) tap to correct. Iphone tap and it puts the cursor where you are and then asks what you want to do. Android? Menu pops up and I have to choose select text.
In all, this is by far the worst first impression of a phone I have EVER had. I hate it so much and I hope I can return it without adverse effects on my unlimited data plan. To those that day u need time to get used to it, how can I get used to it when half of what I want to do doesn't work?
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Let me be clear. I fixed some of these issues after factory resets:4 of them. This phone has caused me nothing but aggravation. I fixed google contacts and my friend with an Ego is helping me customize it. I hope to god someone will post a bootloader or whatever it is. Maybe ill like the phone. Im giving ituntil monday and then tuesday I return it.
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Someone should send this thread to Motorola... the people they're trying to protect with all their control over the device are the people who don't want it to begin with.
The people they're screwing by keeping it locked down actually want the phone. lol.
Sounds to me like you entered all your accounts in the motorblur account thing.
That would give you the most iphone-like integration but it will also slow down the phone and make it more of a pain in the butt.
You can customize a TON on Android but it takes work. The phone doesn't read your mind yet... iphone "works" because it DOES NOT WORK... lol
It's great at what it does but that's not enough for power users. It's great for soccermoms and even surface level dorks... super nerds NEED android... Hell I'd take customized winmo6 over iphone ios. It does more. It's just not pretty doing it or simple to setup.
compumasta said:
+1000
But seriously if your not willing to take the time to learn android as you took time to learn your iPhone then stfu about it and stick with your iPhone 4. Don't complain because its not an iPhone.
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I'd love to hear your explanation about my email. Gmail works fine. My school's? Not at all. I used the help files and whatever. My friend synced his to his gmail, I prefer separate. Your Android motto is to be ABOVE the iphone. Whatever it can do you can do better. Now he got it to work in k9. Im perplexed as to how a stock email app wouldn't have some basic features like TLS (I could be getting acronym wrong) or whatever else he did. I took some time to learn it but not as much as I should have, you're right, but if I have to mess with it so much to get what tiij no effort with an inferior phone?
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I'd love to hear your explanation about my email. Gmail works fine. My school's? Not at all. I used the help files and whatever. My friend synced his to his gmail, I prefer separate. Your Android motto is to be ABOVE the iphone. Whatever it can do you can do better. Now he got it to work in k9. Im perplexed as to how a stock email app wouldn't have some basic features like TLS (I could be getting acronym wrong) or whatever else he did. I took some time to learn it but not as much as I should have, you're right, but if I have to mess with it so much to get what tiij no effort with an inferior phone?
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I have never heard of TLS.
NonovUrbizniz said:
Someone should send this thread to Motorola... the people they're trying to protect with all their control over the device are the people who don't want it to begin with.
The people they're screwing by keeping it locked down actually want the phone. lol.
Sounds to me like you entered all your accounts in the motorblur account thing.
That would give you the most iphone-like integration but it will also slow down the phone and make it more of a pain in the butt.
You can customize a TON on Android but it takes work. The phone doesn't read your mind yet... iphone "works" because it DOES NOT WORK... lol
It's great at what it does but that's not enough for power users. It's great for soccermoms and even surface level dorks... super nerds NEED android... Hell I'd take customized winmo6 over iphone ios. It does more. It's just not pretty doing it or simple to setup.
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I wouldn't say that. Now yes it is simplistic to use but there should be no argument that a phone should be simple to use. With jailbreaking people do aaazing things. That's meant for the afficinados. Same with android. Im not an afficinado. I just want it to work in he surface before I go further. If minor tweaking doesn't work and someone knowledgable had to sideswipe it ut shows. To me. A lack in openness.
External SMTP setting: Server name: pod51000.outlook.com Port: 587 Encryption method: TLS your SMTP server name should be set to pod51000.outlo
Don't know how to properly copy paste. There is TLS.
Pm'd you.
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Sent back, on school laptop at home now. I should expand on it.
It definitely supports it. As stated, the k9 application was able to send and recieve. Using the default mail app, I can RECIEVE but not SEND.
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Horrible Experience. Warning ranting, cussing included

What would have been an excellent day for me has turned me into a ball of negative energy. I read reports here that Sprint stores were letting the Nexus S go early. Boy was I ready. Since there are only two stores I can drive to, I called the nearest one, an hour away. I ask the rep twice, If I make the trip, can I land a Nexus S today. Was told twice, sir we have the phone and yes we will sell it to you. I can't tell you how excited I was to hop in the car and take off like a bat outta hell. I pushed the S2000 to 100+ over the overpasses flying by cars thinking, get outta my way I'm getting the Nexus S *****es. I pull up hop out the car, don't even remember pulling the key from the ignition right? Well I get inside first thing on the agenda is to sit down and "play/test" the phone out a bit. Explore the gingerbread OS, determine if I REALLY want to drop 200 after just getting the Epic full price. They hand me the phone no hesitation let me play. Didn't take but 5 minutes, decided, sure let me blow my upgrade, I want the Nexus S from a development standpoint. To have pure google, and to have seemless rom options in the future cause I know the major devs will support it. Also to help me understand the lower levels of pure android to help bring that to the Epic which I plan on continuing to work on. Hell I was planning on keeping both phones. The woman goes to get me the new phone, box, etc... Manager approaches, ask what's going on. What's going on is I'm about to leave another satisfied customer. NOT. Manager says he "just received word via e-mail" he can't sell it. I explained I called ahead and drove from out of town to get it. He tells me "that's not far to drive come back sunday". You ************. I left the store before I opened my mouth because that usually ends in my vent cut short by police who then have to take the rest of my vent, which ends up in a trip to the local jail until I calm my temper down. It's really hard to raise it but when I'm heated, it's hours before it falls. Needless to say I been on the phone with the owner of the store who is very considerate, considering I'm not polite at this minute. She is taking my rant telling me it's deserved (despite the fact she's at home obviously dealing with family and life). We work out a deal that is NOT me getting the device.
So what's the point of this all? beside me ranting? I hope one thing comes of this thread. Whomever is responsible for my waisted drive, (its not the lady on the phone when I called, she put me on hold while going into the back to ask permission, the guy who gave her permission points his finger at the district manager who had "just sent the email" that I found was lie, the store owner tells me they got the do not sell e-mail 4 hours before I even called). So whoever is truely to blame, and I'm sure I know and looked you in the eyes. Eat a bag of dicks, and enjoy the trouble your now in.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not at all mad at the fact that they couldn't sell the phone early, I expected that from the first call. I'm pissed at the fact I drove down there and back for NOTHING. Does he/she not understand, we are in the middle of a recession, in Louisiana where there are NO jobs left in my town since the oil field was tanked by the spill. I'm busting ass for just over minimum wage till the work returns, and I attempt to drop 200, plus burn a tank of gass to get this device, and get strung along? ****ers.
Alright Rant Over, I'm ordering from Google, and I'll get over it, but the Houma Park Ave. store will never see me again after buying the Moment and Epic last year, then first thing this year headed to go get the Nexus. Thats 1010.00 in phones in 13 months.
Failure all around... I despise incompetent employees who find it fun to screw customers around.
Hope you have a good radar detector... they (EDIT: they? Who's they? The guy who did it.) should be paying for your gas.
I would say anger management and a new hobby might solve this problem. I'd say "not to sound like a jerk" if I hadn't already, but you need to stop worrying about keeping up with the jones' about phones. They're going to come and go and have their advantages and disadvantages, but freaking out, making a choice to drive a long distance on a longshot that you clearly were sceptical about and then getting nearly irate over the fact that a retail manager got overridden on selling you it while you lolly-gagged on getting the thing you drove over an hour for sounds ridiculous and makes me wonder where your priorities are. (Pardon the atrocious grammar) If you got there and it didn't blow your mind were you going to come here and type a long rant about how Samsung wasted your time making you drive an hour to make a phone you weren't impressed with? Keep working hard, yes, but stop loudly blaming others because you aren;t satisfied and stop getting so worked up that you land yourself at the police station, that's just acting like a child.
k0nane said:
Failure all around... I despise incompetent employees who find it fun to screw customers around.
Hope you have a good radar detector... they (EDIT: they? Who's they? The guy who did it.) should be paying for your gas.
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Valentine 1 Ofcourse I'm covered hwy 90 is a speed trap from texas to mississippi
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Valentine 1 Ofcourse I'm covered hwy 90 is a speed trap from texas to mississippi
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Right on... I'm a Passport 8500 X50 user at the moment, but I'm going to go V1 in the near future, I think. Will go hardware with a mirror mount, should be sweet. And watch out for TXHP next time you're in Texas (esp. on 20)... Those bastards are snipers with their rear-facing instant-on.
Sounds like you got your priorities straight.
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I would say anger management and a new hobby might solve this problem. I'd say "not to sound like a jerk" if I hadn't already, but you need to stop worrying about keeping up with the jones' about phones. They're going to come and go and have their advantages and disadvantages, but freaking out, making a choice to drive a long distance on a longshot that you clearly were sceptical about and then getting nearly irate over the fact that a retail manager got overridden on selling you it while you lolly-gagged on getting the thing you drove over an hour for sounds ridiculous and makes me wonder where your priorities are. (Pardon the atrocious grammar) If you got there and it didn't blow your mind were you going to come here and type a long rant about how Samsung wasted your time making you drive an hour to make a phone you weren't impressed with? Keep working hard, yes, but stop loudly blaming others because you aren;t satisfied and stop getting so worked up that you land yourself at the police station, that's just acting like a child.
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You don't come off as a jerk, I'm just venting here so that's expected that people like you would wonder what's wrong with me. My priorities are where they need to be I own all my possession, don't pay bills sept insurance and phone. I save and splurge on what I want. Driving an hour isn't rediculous when you live in a ghost town in the middle of nowhere and I was making 3 times the money when I got the Moment and Epic. Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. Oh forgot you can't unmount the SD and pop in another one. I knew what I was headed there for but I do expect a company be it a retail store or anyone to keep true to their word. That kinda was the point of calling ahead of time....twice. About the police you'd just have to live here to understand, getting in a verbal confrontation with a business owner is a reason to arrest alone, disturbing the peace. I closed my mouth and exited the store, so no childish acts there, I came here to vent instead . But by all means, your entitled to your opinions the matter not to me so I'm not hating on you for your post, **** I expect worse here shortly .
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Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. .
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The S definitely has a front facing camera
living in NY this happens to me all the time. been sent from store to store on wild goose chases. i expect to be treated like crap when i have to step into a brick and mortar store these days
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Right on... I'm a Passport 8500 X50 user at the moment, but I'm going to go V1 in the near future, I think. Will go hardware with a mirror mount, should be sweet. And watch out for TXHP next time you're in Texas (esp. on 20)... Those bastards are snipers with their rear-facing instant-on.
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So does LA State Troopers! I know the feeling. I passed on the passport because the only cigarette lighter port is on the side of the driver seat, didn't want that wire hanging across the car, its hardwired into the battery.
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The S definitely has a front facing camera
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no ****, misinformed. It don't affect me either way on that tho, because I don't use the one on the Epic. The no 720p hurts because I love the video quality but I still will have an Epic to record on!
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You don't come off as a jerk, I'm just venting here so that's expected that people like you would wonder what's wrong with me. My priorities are where they need to be I own all my possession, don't pay bills sept insurance and phone. I save and splurge on what I want. Driving an hour isn't rediculous when you live in a ghost town in the middle of nowhere and I was making 3 times the money when I got the Moment and Epic. Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. Oh forgot you can't unmount the SD and pop in another one. I knew what I was headed there for but I do expect a company be it a retail store or anyone to keep true to their word. That kinda was the point of calling ahead of time....twice. About the police you'd just have to live here to understand, getting in a verbal confrontation with a business owner is a reason to arrest alone, disturbing the peace. I closed my mouth and exited the store, so no childish acts there, I came here to vent instead . But by all means, your entitled to your opinions the matter not to me so I'm not hating on you for your post, **** I expect worse here shortly .
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No worries. Was just wondering and your answers all make sense. Points of view and descriptions of regionalism can easily bring things into perspective when high-tuned emotions are no longer driving thought. I still don't trust corporate America if I had 2 phone calls and a signed contract unless I had a million in the bank for legal fees to back my opinion up.
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So does LA State Troopers!
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I'd be more worried about laser with them boys.
First, S2000 is a cute little car. Where you driving with the top off? It would probably cool down your temperature afterward.
Second, I would have pissed all over the store, and take a crap on the table inside manager office (if he/she has one).
Third, I would take off running out the store with the phone.
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No worries. Was just wondering and your answers all make sense. Points of view and descriptions of regionalism can easily bring things into perspective when high-tuned emotions are no longer driving thought. I still don't trust corporate America if I had 2 phone calls and a signed contract unless I had a million in the bank for legal fees to back my opinion up.
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As far as my hobbies, since the decline of the economy, which I don't even much feel but others around me lost everything, android is keeping me sane until I'm allowed to personally feel productive again. I've been into hacking and tweaking the phone and it really give me that since of accomplishment, that's why I'm gadget jumping. I don't plan on stopping development for the Epic to move to the S, I'm planning on adding more options to what IS my hobby. I don't even plan on buying another device after this one. I said plenty times before, when the development phone from Google is supported on Sprint, I'll gladly jump on it. Until now I could only sit back and watch T-moble get the glory. I bought the Epic cause the original S was close but I never expected us to get one. It was like christmas for me.
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First, S2000 is a cute little car. Where you driving with the top off? It would probably cool down your temperature afterward.
Second, I would have pissed all over the store, and take a crap on the table inside manager office (if he/she has one).
Third, I would take off running out the store with the phone.
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LMFAO, much needed smile there! Top down both ways, it's hot as hell in Louisiana right now. Perfect weather before the rain season spoils it.
Must be a requirement
Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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I have to disagree. I realized ever since I've bought a cellphone it has always been from Best Buy and I've always been satisfied with sale, service, and warrantee/guarantees.
humdrum2009 said:
Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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Corporate stores follow the rules strict. The only chance of getting it was a retail store since they "sort of" govern themselves. Awell, 3 more days
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Yay, Louisiana's a ****hole. The one thing you can rely on here is that someone will **** something up and then act like it's your fault.
I can't wait to leave this place.

Big Brother Lives In CA & Coming to A State Near You

First let me start off by saying I'm a noob, a virgo, and like taking long walks on the beach LOL. I have been lurking around for the past couple of months and have learned a lot from the great people that like to help and share information. This is indeed a great community of people. This is my first post so if it seems long winded I apologize. Now my reason for my thread title. I live in Phoenix AZ (I know it's a dry heat), I was watching the news tonight and they did a story on the search of cell phones by the police. It seems that in California if you get stopped for anything, traffic ticket, jay walking, ect. and your cell phone is within arms length of you, the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed! Yes that means anything and everything that is on your phone is free game (I find that a little strange since last year a husband went to court over accessing his wife's email and reading it.) But as the story was told California Supreme court upheld the ruling which again states that any person who comes in contact with a law enforcement officer can have their cell phone "looked at". This means call history, web sites visited, your phone book, and any and all information that is stored on your device. The only catch is that the device has to be within arms reach of the person. I am not a criminal, never even had a traffic ticket, but the thought of someone going through my phone drives me crazy. I keep my phone locked with a passcode, so would that mean that I would have to unlock my device for them to snoop through it? Anyway I found this interesting and I thought that I would share it with anyone who cares. My question is, of all of the talent that is in this community, has there ever been an app made like a "kill all pill", something that with just the touch of a button your device would be reset to factory settings and/or scrub the sd card? Just a thought. Once again thank you for allowing me to gain more knowledge of my device and to share in the community. Keep up the great work!
eddiegaz said:
First let me start off by saying I'm a noob, a virgo, and like taking long walks on the beach LOL. I have been lurking around for the past couple of months and have learned a lot from the great people that like to help and share information. This is indeed a great community of people. This is my first post so if it seems long winded I apologize. Now my reason for my thread title. I live in Phoenix AZ (I know it's a dry heat), I was watching the news tonight and they did a story on the search of cell phones by the police. It seems that in California if you get stopped for anything, traffic ticket, jay walking, ect. and your cell phone is within arms length of you, the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed! Yes that means anything and everything that is on your phone is free game (I find that a little strange since last year a husband went to court over accessing his wife's email and reading it.) But as the story was told California Supreme court upheld the ruling which again states that any person who comes in contact with a law enforcement officer can have their cell phone "looked at". This means call history, web sites visited, your phone book, and any and all information that is stored on your device. The only catch is that the device has to be within arms reach of the person. I am not a criminal, never even had a traffic ticket, but the thought of someone going through my phone drives me crazy. I keep my phone locked with a passcode, so would that mean that I would have to unlock my device for them to snoop through it? Anyway I found this interesting and I thought that I would share it with anyone who cares. My question is, of all of the talent that is in this community, has there ever been an app made like a "kill all pill", something that with just the touch of a button your device would be reset to factory settings and/or scrub the sd card? Just a thought. Once again thank you for allowing me to gain more knowledge of my device and to share in the community. Keep up the great work!
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I saw the same report about California on our news.
I have news for you, I will never consider living in that state.
That is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS and a step away from the government having video cameras in your house.
I don't know what you can do exactly.
If you ever get pulled over, send the ***** into your custom recovery and format all.
Scary what this country is turning into.
Just toss the phone in the back seat.
I'd actually be kinda curious about the existence of such an app, also....
Ridiculous is all I can say
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I'd tell them to **** themselves and take them to the supreme court. That's purely unconstitutional.
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One more step in complete government control .... I live in Cali and truth be told if it wasn't for my son(separated parents) I wouldn't even live in this country.
"praise the lord and pass the ammunition"
RileyGrant said:
I'd tell them to **** themselves and take them to the supreme court. That's purely unconstitutional.
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I completely agree with you but unfortunately in this day and age "unconstitutional" doesn't mean a damned thing.
The Patriot act is "unconstitutional"...
Actually I just decided to NOT list all the things that are "unconstitutional" that are realities, I don't have that kind of time.
This country went to **** years ago
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"Tase me, bro."
*smash*
*I'm assuming this is similar to the 'plug n' pull' (ya like that?) that was mentioned before. If all it takes is smashing the phone to ****, well, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If I just had pr0n on my phone I wouldn't even care. But that never touches my phone. Nor my computer; felt the need to add that. I'm talking serious business. Not that 'phone tapping' couldn't be possible (yes, it can happen to us all) but anything to shut an effort down. I'd even smash my rooted device and give up a chance of rooted glory for all the bull**** that could come of it. I hate cops. I've had some horrible experiences with them in the past. I'm not a 'blah blah f*ck you' to the face anymore, but I don't play that ****. You can instantly tell when a cop is on the push, and usually it is because you are in a bad situation. But some trivial ****? Nah, I don't, and won't, play that.
Keep your phone locked. If they ask for the pass code, tell them no.
Prugor said:
Keep your phone locked. If they ask for the pass code, tell them no.
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I don't think it works like that, provided this was similar to the talk before ... your 'ish' gets plugged in and by some 'miracle super duper government cop pull' they jack any and everything off your phone.
I'd like some clarification though. I haven't seen a link, but this sounds pretty similar to the talk before.
I'd honestly laugh if this was a, "Gimme your phone son. Ok, how do I see your 'texties?'"
conqu1stador said:
I don't think it works like that, provided this was similar to the talk before ... your 'ish' gets plugged in and by some miracle super duper government cop pull they jack any and everything off your phone.
I'd like some clarification though. I haven't seen a link, but this sounds pretty similar to the talk before.
I'd honeslty laugh if this was a, "Gimme your phone son. Ok, how do I see your 'texties.'"
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They have a device they can hook the phone up to which copies all of the data.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying this sounds like. 'That talk before.'
If you could honestly lock your phone and deny access, well, that's a massive failure on their part. That is what I was saying. It sounds like all that business mentioned a month or two ago.
conqu1stador said:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying this sounds like. 'That talk before.'
If you could honestly lock your phone and deny access, well, that's a massive failure on their part. That is what I was saying. It sounds like all that business mentioned a month or two ago.
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Locking the phone will do nothing.
I suppose you can wipe the phone but, as we all know, the only way to truly destroy data is acid.
Right. If I am remembering correctly it was mentioned as such before. That's what I was saying. I wouldn't be surprised if this was being considered in Illinois. I should make a point of turning my phone off / removing the card everytime we / I get pulled over. Swallow the card if it appears suspect and smash the phone. I'd totally get tasered over as much.*
*tasers aren't that bad*
*yes, for fun
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This is BULL**** !
Im glad I live in Sin City
Just another reason for me to hate living in Cali. I must have missed the report but I remember about a month or so ago some state in the north eastern part of the us displayed a new device just for cell phones that police were beginning to use. Basically it comes with universal plug or what ever and totally scans phone in a matter of seconds. All contents are then stored in said device for further review. files included absolutely everything! Pictures, videos, internet history/cache, emails, call history etc. Welcome to socialism! California is leading the way.
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Just use titanium backup and dropbox. Then if being pulled over just boot to recovery and format all. Might still be able to recover the data though. We need a secure format option.
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Here is the key part:
eddiegaz said:
the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed!
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Police officers can ask for lots of things. You don't have to give it to them. If an officers asks if he can look in your trunk you can say no, if they ask to come into your house you can say no, if they ask you anything you can remain silent. So if you have something on your phone that you don't want the police to see, just say no when they ask if they can look at it.
I have seen police go to apartments where the neighbor reported that someone was smoking pot. They can smell the pot, but if no one answers the door, or the person who answers does not let them in they can't take any further action.
mbaseball3 said:
Welcome to socialism! California is leading the way.
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While I won't dispute Cali's socialist leanings, this is NOT evidence of it. Evidense of Fascism? Sure is! Socialism? No. There are big differences between communism and socialsim, and both can be facist...but so can democracy. Fascism is the real evil. Socialism and communism are only theoretical evils that tend to die off as time progresses (though either one work very well in small communities. Funny thing: almost any humane fiscal system can work, and work well, on a small scale...it is when one starts dealing with larger societies that the sh1t hits the fan). But this is all far more political than is allowed.
Fazulka said:
Here is the key part:
Police officers can ask for lots of things. You don't have to give it to them. If an officers asks if he can look in your trunk you can say no, if they ask to come into your house you can say no, if they ask you anything you can remain silent. So if you have something on your phone that you don't want the police to see, just say no when they ask if they can look at it.
I have seen police go to apartments where the neighbor reported that someone was smoking pot. They can smell the pot, but if no one answers the door, or the person who answers does not let them in they can't take any further action.
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Someone hasn't been paying attention to what is going on
What is "allowed" and what has been actually happening are two completely different things. Wanna see a video of people being body-slammed and tied up for dancing at the Jefferson monument? Minute 2:40 is when they tell someone that they will be arrested for continuing to record.
Here is a news report on the incident

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