There is a lot of information floating around about the factory cable but there doesn't seem to be a thread dedicated to the topic. I bricked my device today so I need to make a factory cable. I tried making a cable but I f'd up the soldering job so I am awaiting delivery of a breakout board. I just wanted to gather some information here on the topic because there seem to be a lot of bricks popping up around here. So for now I am going to post what I know and ask a few questions here and there so that I can get my cable done and hopefully help someone out along the way.
When I started messing around with soldering a jumper from pin 1 to pin 4 i melted the connector, blah, blah, anyway, I screwed it up. Hopefully I will have more luck with the breakout (see below).
From what I understand, using the cable is a simple a plugging it in so I guess that part is self explanatory for now.
I got most of my information about the cable and how to make it from here. Lots of good info with pics and diagrams.
Someone in these forums recomended using this breakout board. I ordered 2 of them today so I will let you guys know how it goes when they get here.
My one big question is about the the jumper from pin 1 to pin 4; I read that some people are using a resister and I am unclear as to where the resister is being used and the specs of the resister. Please enlighten me
I might add some pics to this thread just for fun. If you have built this cable please jump in a post any information that might help.
Thanks
BTW-You can buy a cable here but I have yet to see them listed as "in stock"
I'm interesting to how correctly build this cable...
I simply used a jumper wire. No resistor used. I hear a 1k can be used as a precaution, but is not necessary. Without the resistor, it works like a champ. I turned off the Kindle, Plugged in the "Factory cable", and it went directly into fastboot.
PIN out is as follows on the SparkFun Breakout board:
VCC: RED
D-: White
D+: Green
ID: Jumper RED
GND: Black
MayfairDROID said:
I simply used a jumper wire. No resistor used. I hear a 1k can be used as a precaution, but is not necessary. Without the resistor, it works like a champ. I turned off the Kindle, Plugged in the "Factory cable", and it went directly into fastboot.
PIN out is as follows on the SparkFun Breakout board:
VCC: RED
D-: White
D+: Green
ID: Jumper RED
GND: Black
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Thanks a ton! I was looking confirmation that this wod work without a registered.
So I assume you fixed you device or accomplished whatever it was that you where trying to do?
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hahaha...Nope I didn't have anything wrong, but before I went modding, I wanted to be sure I could get into FastBoot if I messed something up. I have tested and made sure that I had Fastboot commands, so I know it works.
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There is a lot of information floating around about the factory cable but there doesn't seem to be a thread dedicated to the topic. I bricked my device today so I need to make a factory cable. I tried making a cable but I f'd up the soldering job so I am awaiting delivery of a breakout board. I just wanted to gather some information here on the topic because there seem to be a lot of bricks popping up around here. So for now I am going to post what I know and ask a few questions here and there so that I can get my cable done and hopefully help someone out along the way.
When I started messing around with soldering a jumper from pin 1 to pin 4 i melted the connector, blah, blah, anyway, I screwed it up. Hopefully I will have more luck with the breakout (see below).
From what I understand, using the cable is a simple a plugging it in so I guess that part is self explanatory for now.
I got most of my information about the cable and how to make it from here. Lots of good info with pics and diagrams.
Someone in these forums recomended using this breakout board. I ordered 2 of them today so I will let you guys know how it goes when they get here.
My one big question is about the the jumper from pin 1 to pin 4; I read that some people are using a resister and I am unclear as to where the resister is being used and the specs of the resister. Please enlighten me
I might add some pics to this thread just for fun. If you have built this cable please jump in a post any information that might help.
Thanks
BTW-You can buy a cable here but I have yet to see them listed as "in stock"
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A resistor is the "safe" route. Mine doesn't have one at all and woks flawlessly. You just need a resistor large enough to simulate a short to the device. I imagine anything above 250k would be more than enough.
But as I said before I have used mine more than most people probably have while testing TWRP, I don't have a resistor and it works fine.
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Was just thinking. If you used a female breakout board with a male breakout board you could essentially ground the male boards ground to the male boards vcc. And the female boards ground to the male boards ground as well.
This way you could leave vcc hanging (capped of course) from the female source (computer) side.
Aditionally you could put in a dual pole switch between ground from the the target (kindle side) and vcc on the target side that would toggle between ground on the target side and vcc on the source side. Essentially eliminating the need for two cables and letting you switch from a factory cable to a normal cable with the flip of a button.
Hope this sparks some good conversation .
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I built one with the sparkfun breakout board. Piece of cake if you have some soldering skillz. You might melt something or make a mess if you haven't soldered anything before so I recommend practicing on something else first and/or watching some "how to solder" youtubes.
I configured mine with a female header in the pin 4 location, and a 400 ohm resistor coming off of pin 1. If I want to fastboot, I put the free end of the resistor into the female header. To use the cable like an ordinary USB cable, I just pull the free end back out. It's kinda nice to use the same cable for everything.
RE: resistor value. Since any value up to 1K ohm reportedly works, I thought I might as well use one vs just running a direct short. The higher the value of your resistor, the greater the chances that it won't work though. I used the one I did because it was less than 1K ohm, I had it on hand, and it's a higher wattage resistor with thicker wire that fits nicely in the female header.
FWIW, YMMV.
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Was just thinking. If you used a female breakout board with a male breakout board you could essentially ground the male boards ground to the male boards vcc. And the female boards ground to the male boards ground as well.
This way you could leave vcc hanging (capped of course) from the female source (computer) side.
Hope this sparks some good conversation .
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This will NOT work, as the female breakout boards from Sparkfun does NOT have a breakout trace for pin 4 present. Only the male breakout boards have all 5 pins/traces needed. I've purchased hundreds of both and sold thousands of download mode JIG's for Samsung phones, and was forced to modify the female breakout boards to include a pin 4 trace for special projects of mine. I do not know if they since added the trace or not and its been over a year now since I asked for this feature.
Is there even a market for these factory cables?
EDIT: I know this post used to be how to get a cable from me, but I ran out of the actual cables and never replaced them. With only about one request per week or month I decided to stop stocking the cables. I have everything else though (new micro ends etc) to build a professional one if you want to send a old cable to me.
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This will NOT work, as the female breakout boards from Sparkfun does NOT have a breakout trace for pin 4 present. Only the male breakout boards have all 5 pins/traces needed. I've purchased hundreds of both and sold over 1300 download mode JIG's for Samsung phones, and was forced to modify the female breakout boards to include a pin 4 trace for special projects of mine. I do not know if they since added the trace or not and its been over a year now since I asked for this feature.
On the other hand, if there was a market for it, I could manufacture special mini to micro data/charger adapters made specifically for this task. But the user would still need a standard mini usb data cable with all 5 pins/wires present (everyone should have one lying around somewhere).
Something like this could be purchased in bulk and then modified on demand. These are easily taken apart and reassembled. I do this daily 7 days a week so its easy for me.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/394616755/Mini_USB_to_Micro_Adapter_Charger.html
Is there even a market for these though, is my question?
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Probably not much of a market. I think most of us are attempting to make our own. I'm sure you could sell a few but I wouldn't quit your day job ;-)
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Not really concerned with making money as opposed to just helping. I sell JIG's at only $3.95 plus s&h which just barely covers my cost of materials, so I'm not in it for the money (it never even crossed my mind to try and make money off this stuff). Some people can not make things like this to save their lives, in fact most people can't and that's where a talented ex-electronics tech like myself comes in.
Below are the JIG's I make... Just to show how serious I get with quality and design. They are filled with SureBonder PDR glue, the worlds strongest hot glue according to the glue manufacturers, and I even went as far as logo them. I am thinking something along the lines of the same thing with the Factory Adapter (just without the lanyard). I could make 50 of them and list them on ebay for what I mentioned above and only $2 s&h. But, ONLY if I knew that they might sell. I'm willing to break even, but not lose money... And oh, I'm unemployed at the moment so I have plenty of time on my hands and every specialty tool you can think of...
I'm just bored and love helping people save their devices.... My ebay ratings can contest to that... ;-)
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I would buy 1
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Nice. Mine looks positively nasty (but it works). What I did was buy a cheap 8" usb micro male to usb micro female adapter, cut it in half, stripped the wires back, and twisted them back together. Then simply jumpered the two wires together and taped the whole mess up. The hardest part was getting a meter on the usb micro pins. Had to clip my meter leads to a needle to get to them. Had to wear my glasses too. They are really small and close together.
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Oh, and I forgot to point out that the reason for using the usb micro male to female cable is that you are insured of a wire on pin 4 with this approach, rather than an unsoldered pin to test your soldering skills. You will of course still need a micro to the normal usb cable to go from this to your pc, but I already had that on hand.
Considering the number of kindle fires that have sold, I bet you could easily sell 50 of those cables on ebay.
I'd probably buy one even though I've already made my own. Your's look really nice!
teookie said:
Considering the number of kindle fires that have sold, I bet you could easily sell 50 of those cables on ebay.
I'd probably buy one even though I've already made my own. Your's look really nice!
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Thanks, but the pictures I posted are of my Samsung Download Mode JIG's, they are NOT Motorola Factory jig's, lol... I ONLY posted pics of my Samsung jig's to show how dedicated I am to making quality stuff for us device flashing junkies. Factory Adapters would not look anything like what I posted, they would just be a Mini to Micro usb adapter with the proper short from pin 1 to 4 (user would have to supply their own standard cable, which most people already have). I have NOT sourced any adapters yet, but I have sent emails to some of my suppliers asking about them. No replies as of yet... I did find a few cables but I do not like cutting products up, I instead like making something that looks like it was produced on a assembly line, lol. Doing the mod to an adapter just seems smarter, as the end result is a clean functional product without any visible damage.
1. I would need to source adapters that are either already un-assembled.
2. Or, can easily be un-assembled and re-assembled.
3. Fairly affordable, 35-50 cents each or something close to.
4. And, be purchased in really small quantities such as lots of 50 to start out with.
5. And most importantly, they must have all 5 pins/wires. MANY adapters do not have all 5 pins on the female side, as pin #4 is simply not needed for most functions. This is why I need to source them first so I can ask questions in regards to pin #4. If the supplier guarantees pin 4 is present on both sides of the adapter, then I can move forward on this product.
I have quite a few emails and PM's for this item already though. Still not convinced its worth it though. How many Kindle Fires have been sold? And how many people actually modify or flash them? lol
EDIT: Let me get this straight. If I try to flash my Kindle Fire and I brick it, I would need a factory cable in order to restore it to functional?
I'd definitely grab one! I don't think you'll have any problem selling out of 50.
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Thanks, but the pictures I posted are of my Samsung Download Mode JIG's, they are NOT Motorola Factory jig's, lol... I ONLY posted pics of my Samsung jig's to show how dedicated I am to making quality stuff for us device flashing junkies. Factory Adapters would not look anything like what I posted, they would just be a Mini to Micro usb adapter with the proper short from pin 1 to 4 (user would have to supply their own standard cable, which most people already have). I have NOT sourced any adapters yet, but I have sent emails to some of my suppliers asking about them. No replies as of yet... I did find a few cables but I do not like cutting products up, I instead like making something that looks like it was produced on a assembly line, lol. Doing the mod to an adapter just seems smarter, as the end result is a clean functional product without any visible damage.
1. I would need to source adapters that are either already un-assembled.
2. Or, can easily be un-assembled and re-assembled.
3. Fairly affordable, 35-50 cents each or something close to.
4. And, be purchased in really small quantities such as lots of 50 to start out with.
5. And most importantly, they must have all 5 pins/wires. MANY adapters do not have all 5 pins on the female side, as pin #4 is simply not needed for most functions. This is why I need to source them first so I can ask questions in regards to pin #4. If the supplier guarantees pin 4 is present on both sides of the adapter, then I can move forward on this product.
I have quite a few emails and PM's for this item already though. Still not convinced its worth it though. How many Kindle Fires have been sold? And how many people actually modify or flash them? lol
EDIT: Let me get this straight. If I try to flash my Kindle Fire and I brick it, I would need a factory cable in order to restore it to functional?
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In many cases people are able to restore a bricked kindle because the Factory cable allows one to boot in to fastboot and repair the system or do a factory reset or whatever needs to be done based on what the brick was caused by.
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But, ONLY if I knew that they might sell.
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I'd buy one.
I feel confused. Typical someone says factory to describe an item that comes with a product when you buy it vs. aftermarket. Are you saying that the cable that comes with the fire is somehow special and different from a regular micro USB cable?
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bsoplinger said:
I feel confused. Typical someone says factory to describe an item that comes with a product when you buy it vs. aftermarket. Are you saying that the cable that comes with the fire is somehow special and different from a regular micro USB cable?
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This is a special cable that puts the device into fastboot mode when the device is otherwise locked up. It is not a normal cable you would get or use that would come with the device or be orderable from the company. It has only one purpose and would not be used again.
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Got myself a new Transformer. Unboxed. Looks gorgeous, but wait... the two bits that make up the wall charger don't seem to, you know, slot in? It's very loose, and when plugged in doesn't do squat all. No charge. Am I being an idiot and not fitting one piece to the other right, or do I go back to the shop to get a replacement? :/
It snaps together, and when I got mine it was a pretty snug fit. So you may have to apply a little force, but it does snap together.
Right, the problem is that however much force I apply, the thing doesn't want to snap in. I've been googling like mad to see if anyone else has this problem and did find this one chap with the same trouble; he ended up having to ask the shop to swap it.
When I got mine it was already together
I had to press with what I would deem as an 'unreasonable' amount of force to get them to snap together. Just FYI.
Lucky you. Sigh.
I've even tried to charge with my Samsung Tab's wall adapter. No goddamn luck. Fail, ASUS, fail.
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Right, the problem is that however much force I apply, the thing doesn't want to snap in. I've been googling like mad to see if anyone else has this problem and did find this one chap with the same trouble; he ended up having to ask the shop to swap it.
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Can you take a pic?
I was going to upload the pics, but I followed advice given in another thread and--using enough force I thought I was about to break them--bent the prongs outward. Voila: it now snaps in and charges. Still a bit of a fail on ASUS for not shipping the two pieces already joined, or better yet make the wall adapter a one-piece affair. Ah well!
This happens to everyone. You really need to FORCE it. There's no particular technique that worked for me, just slide and apply a lot of pressure...you only need to do it once, thankfully.
yeah the amount of force required to put that thing together is insane. after about 5 minutes i grabbed something heavy and just started pounding the thing to death with it until it clicked in lol
That is the one area of the transformer that has disappointed me so far, the charging systems. I didn't understand why the unit wasn't assembled in the box... why I can't charge via usb...and why the cable is so short.
Other than those gripes, I love this thing!!
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This happens to everyone. You really need to FORCE it. There's no particular technique that worked for me, just slide and apply a lot of pressure...you only need to do it once, thankfully.
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*giggles childishly*
nebrando said:
...and why the cable is so short.
Other than those gripes, I love this thing!!
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Seriously the cable length is ridiculous
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Heh, I wedged a coin between the prongs to bend them a bit. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, though.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab's cable is also stupidly short. A trend, I guess?
Mine took some force but it wasnt like i had to stand on a table to make it work.
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Still a bit of a fail on ASUS for not shipping the two pieces already joined, or better yet make the wall adapter a one-piece affair. Ah well!
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I could see pre-joined but not a one piece affair. I like that its modular because that means you could get plug adapters that could make it fit any country you move to. This is how it should be with mobile devices.
grainysand said:
Heh, I wedged a coin between the prongs to bend them a bit. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, though.
The Samsung Galaxy Tab's cable is also stupidly short. A trend, I guess?
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Apparently so is the Iconia's cable. Very strange, as if they expect us to build a little charging stand next to an outlet just for these Android tablets. Somewhat easily solved with a USB 3.0 extension cable, but it's an ugly solution (at least for me, my extension is blue).
not assembled because it's modular and different countries have different adapters. They are wrapped separately and the only variable in the box.
Also, the oem ipad adapter should provide plenty of oomph to charge and comes with a long cord from outlet to charging unit. Again, not as nice and neat as a normal two piece charger and cable, but neither as the add one. Plus, the apple one is modular too and can take a regular one piece like the one on the asus if you don't need the extension cable or if someone comes out with a longer stock cable.
Weird, mine came already assembled from Best Buy.
I do remember my GTablet came with the adapter apart, but that was easy to put together.
Hell I didn't even know it was in 2 peices, got mine yesterday from Newegg and it was already together. Yes the cable length is a joke but I heard about that earlier this week and ordered a 6 ft USB3 cable extension from monoprice for like $4 and it got here today and using it now to charge mine and it's working fine, highly recommended!
Yeah mine was pre-assembled, got mine Monday of this week (and it was brand new stock). Maybe they're doing that on the newer units. I have no idea how I'd ever get it apart if I needed to, I tried and the two pieces are very tightly attached.
The cable... yes the cable is crazy-short. So if you want to use a USB extension, it has to be a USB 3.0 one?
Does anyone sell a long MicroUSB adapter kit for DIY docking stations?
Something that can be assembled onto a fiberglass or wood dock.
As in, a connector that doesn't have the molded end with cable already attached.
But wht exacty u need? Micro/mini usb cable? Usb male/female pin/plug? Give some mor details.
HD2 HYPERDROID EXTREME EDITION V6.0.1 @ FIKERT KERNAL.
Most micro USB connectors come apart pretty easily.
There are usually 3 tack solder contacts on one side and 2 on the other.
Get yourself a few $3 cables and a razor blade to try out.
You can strip the shells off, route a hole in your stand and insert it.
I think by "long" microUSB he mean really those longer ones, with ~16 additional pins, like one we can find in Nook Tablet.
Rebellos said:
I think by "long" microUSB he mean really those longer ones, with ~16 additional pins, like one we can find in Nook Tablet.
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I disagree, he wants to make his own dock, and needs something a bit longer that will be easier to mount. I have thought about the same thing myself
I think one of these below should do the trick, as they can be taken apart, but obviously, you'll have to do your own soldering. It's a bit tricky, even with a 0.5mm pencil tip iron.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8pin-micr..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item43afbf91cb
Good luck!
you might want to check out parts sites. I did a quick search on mouser.com for micro usb and under interconnects i selected "USB connectors" you can see a picture of most of the options and even go with micro 3.0 if its better for you
Whoops, I forgot about this thread.
Thanks for all the great suggestions so far!
Yeah, I want the longer USB. Because right now, I have an OEM Samsung car dock that I use.
But when I have my phone in a TPU case, the USB isn't long enough anymore to properly insert all the way into the phone. Because the TPU case puts the phone about 1/4" further from the USB.
I like the idea of stipping a three dollar USB cable.
I think this will be a long term project that I'll work on here and there.
Looking into this myself but for a different reason. I can't find what I want but I did order two of these and I reckon they will work perfectly for you.
http://ie.farnell.com/hrs-hirose/zx80-b-5s/micro-usb-type-b-plug/dp/1719110?Ntt=171-9110
I think that's also Newark in the US. Probably the same part number there. There is at least an extra 5mm there to get you past the TPU case.
One of the rules I live by is to never pay for something I can make/do myself. With this idea in mind, I set out to make my own fastboot cable, rather than forking over $15. Besides, it looked like a fun project.
The result?
Yeah... I'm pretty sure a blowtorch wasn't in the list of required tools. I found another unused micro-USB cable lying around the house. Hopefully it won't meet the same fate as the first.
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One of the rules I live by is to never pay for something I can make/do myself. With this idea in mind, I set out to make my own fastboot cable, rather than forking over $15. Besides, it looked like a fun project.
The result?
Yeah... I'm pretty sure a blowtorch wasn't in the list of required tools. I found another unused micro-USB cable lying around the house. Hopefully it won't meet the same fate as the first.
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Lol, it is a pain. If you have a magnifier set up, it will make this much easier.
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Ph0enix_216 said:
One of the rules I live by is to never pay for something I can make/do myself. With this idea in mind, I set out to make my own fastboot cable, rather than forking over $15. Besides, it looked like a fun project.
The result?
Yeah... I'm pretty sure a blowtorch wasn't in the list of required tools. I found another unused micro-USB cable lying around the house. Hopefully it won't meet the same fate as the first.
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you use this guide to build the cable is not very complicated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693
or try this modification
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432650
viktormax3 said:
you use this guide to build the cable is not very complicated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392693
or try this modification
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432650
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@viktormax3,
I have seen the second link you posted, and I've been thinking of attempting this for a while. Also thinking of buying this and stripping back a cable and re-connecting it with the short.
Also, in the first post you mentioned, someone mentioned this:
kfuller said:
Nice. Mine looks positively nasty (but it works). What I did was buy a cheap 8" usb micro male to usb micro female adapter, cut it in half, stripped the wires back, and twisted them back together. Then simply jumpered the two wires together and taped the whole mess up. The hardest part was getting a meter on the usb micro pins. Had to clip my meter leads to a needle to get to them. Had to wear my glasses too. They are really small and close together.
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Oh, and I forgot to point out that the reason for using the usb micro male to female cable is that you are insured of a wire on pin 4 with this approach, rather than an unsoldered pin to test your soldering skills. You will of course still need a micro to the normal usb cable to go from this to your pc, but I already had that on hand.
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So I may try this as well.:fingers-crossed:
Hey guys,
I'm mostly a lurker of XDA. I was interested in soldering an internal inductive receiver in my one and was having a difficult time finding any information on it. I had been using a USB adapter that worked ok, but I found it annoying that I could not use my usb port without taking my case off and unplugging the adapter. I took matters into my own hands a soldered in a receiver. I was mostly successful. The usb port works great and the receiver functions, but it's right behind the NFC in the back case and it has problems staying connected to the charger with the back cover on. Once replacement backs are available I plan on modding it further so that I can rely on it daily for wireless charging.
My original thread at the one plus one forums:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/soldering-in-an-inductive-charging-coil-internally.57772/
and my gallery of my mod:
http://imgur.com/a/jRnN4
I'll keep you guys updated on any progress I make.
Thanks for looking!
inaudible101 said:
Hey guys,
I'm mostly a lurker of XDA. I was interested in soldering an internal inductive receiver in my one and was having a difficult time finding any information on it. I had been using a USB adapter that worked ok, but I found it annoying that I could not use my usb port without taking my case off and unplugging the adapter. I took matters into my own hands a soldered in a receiver. I was mostly successful. The usb port works great and the receiver functions, but it's right behind the NFC in the back case and it has problems staying connected to the charger with the back cover on. Once replacement backs are available I plan on modding it further so that I can rely on it daily for wireless charging.
My original thread at the one plus one forums:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/soldering-in-an-inductive-charging-coil-internally.57772/
and my gallery of my mod:
http://imgur.com/a/jRnN4
I'll keep you guys updated on any progress I make.
Thanks for looking!
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This is awesome, mate. Really neat. :good:
Nice! If it wouldn't void my warranty I would so do this mod. Great job.
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Thanks for posting this. I read it with great interest.
I think this is what I will do when my OPO arrives in a few days' time. I ordered the bits off of eBay yesterday, so one they arrive I will follow your guide.
I guess at 500ma, it should take about 6 hours to properly charge the phone. I just want it for topping up at work, so heavy charging isn't what I need.
Thanks again.
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Hi guys,
I'm posting on xda what I wrote on OPO forums:
inaudible101 said:
On the wireless receiver coils there is only a positive and a negative wire. If you look at the ebay link for the adapter I used you will see the two wires on the close up shot of the USB adapter.
On the port on the phone there are five pins, a VCC (5 volt +), two data pins, a ground or dead pin, and a -5 volt. If you look at the first picture in the gallery I believe the two pins on the right at both +5 Volt and the two on the far left are both -5 volt. I tried to solder on the 2 and 6th pin though just to be on the safe side but according to my multimeter pins 1 and 2 are shorted and pins 6 and 7 are shorted so you should be able to use either or both without any problems. One the wireless adapter I was able to peal the coil cover back a bit and the PCB showed which wire was + and -.
I cut off the usb adapter on the bottom of the wireless receiver I was using so I just used the wire that was already attached and used my multimeter to identify which one was + and - since it was printed on the PCB of the receiver. After cutting the end off I was unable to strip the wire because it's a weird flat wire. I ended up just melting back the shielding with the soldering iron.
The inductive receivers I have on the way don't have a wire attached but have little copper pin things that I can take off with a soldering iron and attach my own wires. They are also labeled + and - so it should be easy.
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Hi inaudible101,
I saw your post on xda and I went curious about it. I was actually thinking of doing the same thing, so I'm glad that someone managed to get it working!
I have some ideas to make it better: you can cut the cable that you soldered in the middle to create some sort of connector pins (like in the galaxy s4), and then removing the black pouch in which the receiver coil is, in order to glue it to the back cover itself. Also, when gluing it, you will have to position it a little bit more towards the USB port so that it doesn't block the NFC.
You could end up with something like this :
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I'm going to try this as soon as I receive my wireless charging receiver. What do you think? Could it work better, since the coil will be closer to the back of the case, and a little bit away from the NFC antenna?
Dan.
PS : sorry if I was unclear, English is not my native language. Please ask if you didn't understand something!
Hi Dan.
Some great ideas there, and well worth considering.
I love the idea the pins, as you mentioned. This would allow you to mount the coil to the case, as you suggested.
I like the idea of moving it lower too, away from the NFC antenna. That is a good thought for those whose banks etc actually use it. Or to use your own NFC tags.
Great thinking.
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Has anyone tried using a multimeter on the exposed pins?
Hilbe said:
Has anyone tried using a multimeter on the exposed pins?
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Yeah there's nothing there.
@inaudible101, what tools did you use to free the backing from the phone without damaging it?
Where are the pinch points?
AJ RIMMER! said:
@inaudible101, what tools did you use to free the backing from the phone without damaging it?
Where are the pinch points?
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To free the backing, you first have to remove the micro sim slot, after that use your finger nails to remove the back (just go around the phone and pull off gently).
Great! Thank you for that. It would have taken me a while to work that out
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Jesus, so many people on the oneplus forum do not understand what is going on
In what way?
They don't understand the initial post and keep linking to other threads about USB adapters. I updated the thread over there with pictures of the cut I made in the back to run the coil outside the phone so that it works a little better while keeping the USB port open.
OK, I read that post.
They are the kind of people who will try it, and blame either you or OnePlus for them screwing their phones up.
Clueless people like that should only be given Nokia 1610's, and made to sit in a corner.
OnePlus How To: Change StyleSwap Cover
dansou901 said:
AJ RIMMER! said:
@inaudible101, what tools did you use to free the backing from the phone without damaging it?
Where are the pinch points?
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To free the backing, you first have to remove the micro sim slot, after that use your finger nails to remove the back (just go around the phone and pull off gently).
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OnePlus have made the following how-to video.
OnePlus How To: Change StyleSwap Cover
As more people get their hands on the OnePlus One, we would like to take the time to show you guys how to change the StyleSwap Cover. In this video, you can see the newly announced Bamboo StyleSwap Cover.
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Zmartphone said:
OnePlus have made the following how-to video.
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Great work on this. I'm interested in doing the wireless charging thing myself.
Bakuryu91 said:
Hi guys,
I'm posting on xda what I wrote on OPO forums:
Hi inaudible101,
I saw your post on xda and I went curious about it. I was actually thinking of doing the same thing, so I'm glad that someone managed to get it working!
I have some ideas to make it better: you can cut the cable that you soldered in the middle to create some sort of connector pins (like in the galaxy s4), and then removing the black pouch in which the receiver coil is, in order to glue it to the back cover itself. Also, when gluing it, you will have to position it a little bit more towards the USB port so that it doesn't block the NFC.
You could end up with something like this :
hackintech1.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/s4-charging-11.jpg
I'm going to try this as soon as I receive my wireless charging receiver. What do you think? Could it work better, since the coil will be closer to the back of the case, and a little bit away from the NFC antenna?
Dan.
PS : sorry if I was unclear, English is not my native language. Please ask if you didn't understand something!
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Here's the full blog post with instructions to the picture you posted: hackintech1.wordpress.com/tag/palm-pixi/ I would have posted it as a clickable hyperlink, but I'm not allowed to as I haven't made 10 posts yet
And the accompanying video instructions:
vwauditech said:
Nice! If it wouldn't void my warranty I would so do this mod. Great job.
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You can unsolder the wireless charging cable at any time, as the parts which inaudible modded, did not have any warranty tamper-proof stickers. If the phone is bricked, open it up, unsolder your wireless coil, pop the cover back on, and RMA like normal.
Desolutional said:
You can unsolder the wireless charging cable at any time, as the parts which inaudible modded, did not have any warranty tamper-proof stickers. If the phone is bricked, open it up, unsolder your wireless coil, pop the cover back on, and RMA like normal.
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I would just be afraid of them taking notice of the solder points. I guess if I did have to remove it I could make all the solder points look uniform by re-flowing each socket.
The lack of Qi is the thing I'm missing the most at this point.
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I've got two Simple Touches with loose charging ports. I was as careful as I could be for years, but eventually the not-very-durable attachments broke and they are unusable.
I've taken one of the Nooks apart, but can't find any numbers on the port or the board, or specs on the details of the port to buy some more. So far the best I've come up with is: Micro USB port type B, female, 5-pin, 4-leg. The pics I've found on these show variability of the leg shape and the spacing, and whether the bevel on the male connector faces up or down relative to the legs.
Can anyone help me with further specs for these ports or where to get them? I've spent hours researching this (right now I have more time than money) and no luck so far. My hope is I can mess around with a friend's hot air soldering station and get at least one of these to work again. And beef up the attachment so it doesn't break again.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Bake
WWBaker said:
I've got two Simple Touches with loose charging ports. I was as careful as I could be for years, but eventually the not-very-durable attachments broke and they are unusable.
I've taken one of the Nooks apart, but can't find any numbers on the port or the board, or specs on the details of the port to buy some more. So far the best I've come up with is: Micro USB port type B, female, 5-pin, 4-leg. The pics I've found on these show variability of the leg shape and the spacing, and whether the bevel on the male connector faces up or down relative to the legs.
Can anyone help me with further specs for these ports or where to get them? I've spent hours researching this (right now I have more time than money) and no luck so far. My hope is I can mess around with a friend's hot air soldering station and get at least one of these to work again. And beef up the attachment so it doesn't break again.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
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Sorry to hear about your nook problem.
I am not a technician but the micro Usb port is a pretty common one, So I think a common Micro USB port will work
If you can please contact a professional technician .They will do the fix quickly. If not post this in mobileread forum
(http://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=231) The technical genius in here seems to absent
these days.
Check out these ebay links.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/micro-usb-connector
You can contact the sellers with your orginal port(picture of the port) and get verified. Also check local phone
hardware sellers or even Amazon.com.
Wish you all the best.
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Thanks. I couldn't keep the link I had to the different variations on the 4-leg placement (because I'm new) but I originally had a similar link included. There doesn't seem to be a way to clarify what exactly matches the Nook port except maybe as you say, with ultra close-up pictures. Ebay had a bit more detail in general than Amazon, but still unable to narrow it down sufficiently. There were probably ten different types that were close-but-no-cigar.
I did contact a local cell phone repair place that gets raves for replacing phone ports, but they won't do a Nook, and if it cost more than $20 or 30 wouldn't be worth it. I also have spent hours sifting thru stuff on the mobilereads site (it's how I felt able to take one of the Nooks apart and start messing around) which has some great details, but not this exact one.
Hay, don't be so concerned about this port.
I personally use 3 phones and my sister got 2 phones.
So we use different mini Usb cables to charge or transfer files to our devices.
But we never had problems.
So the lesson is most of the devices use same or identical mini usb ports.
Therefore just use the most common port and just experiment.I know Nook use safty steps to prevent short circuits. So don't be so worried but be careful with the soldering.
(Use the ebay sellers to get the port you want.Most of them are very helpful.)
Best Regards
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Thanks. I couldn't keep the link I had to the different variations on the 4-leg placement (because I'm new) but I originally had a similar link included. There doesn't seem to be a way to clarify what exactly matches the Nook port except maybe as you say, with ultra close-up pictures. Ebay had a bit more detail in general than Amazon, but still unable to narrow it down sufficiently. There were probably ten different types that were close-but-no-cigar.
I did contact a local cell phone repair place that gets raves for replacing phone ports, but they won't do a Nook, and if it cost more than $20 or 30 wouldn't be worth it. I also have spent hours sifting thru stuff on the mobilereads site (it's how I felt able to take one of the Nooks apart and start messing around) which has some great details, but not this exact one.
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There is a place in San Diego that advertises NST repairs (among others), including the micro USB port. Obviously they are in the repair business, but you might get lucky if you contact them. Maybe they can give you specs on the port. Heck, since they are in SD, they might even be able to give you a Mouser part number!
Try searching for the connectors on mouser.com or the like. You should be able to get a good description of the dimensions from the datasheets. You can order in quantities as low as one.