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Got the 16 gb transformer (black seal) and dock (green seal) yesterday at best buy. Here's my thoughts after 24 hrs of use:
1) Form, build and quality are fine, however I think the Sammy 10.1 clearly wins this category.
2) Docking is a bit of a hassel at first but not bad once used to it.
3) This tab overall is sluggish and unrefined. Playing ANY flash video is a joke. HBO GO is not supported, and trying to play it in a desktop browser (dolphin hd) won't work as flash is broken on the TF. In other words, this tab barely works for my normal web usage.
4) Typing lag in browsers is beyond a joke. It's basically unusable. I am typing this on my TF with keyboard dock and it is taking forever. Google shoud be embarrased to release an OS and tab touted so highly that is basically unusuable if one wants to actually ENTER TEXT at all.
5) Most everthing else so far is fine. I use a Droid X (rooted, OC'd) and it is a ten times better experience. Honeycomb and Asus have a lot of refining to do on this tab.
Normally my posts and thoughts would be much more well put but I am stopping here as there is no way my brain can think as slow as this thing enters text in browsers. Chances are high that I will be returning this tab before my 14 day return window at best buy. I may give the Sammy 10.1 a try as most of these issues are not evident, or not as bad on that unit. I liked it better overall anyway except for the lack of a simple micro sd card slot.
again sorry for my sloppy sounding post, but that's what happens at 2 seconds per text input speeds.
Have you updated to 3.1? Flash for me works perfectly. No lag.
Here I am able to type a reply via Opera mini with very little input lag in the browser. Of course, Opera mini is not the full browser but I guess it's at least useable.
To further my thoughts, the TF is a sexy unit with the keyboard dock making this into what looks like a netbook killer. My belief is that this dockable form factor will continue to be very popular, and it is the main reason i chose this over the Sammy 10.1, which also has a keyboard dock, but not one nearly as convenient nor one with a battery in the dock.
Other things I will mention is that I do have some bleeding on the left edge and bottom of the display. This to me I could overlook as it is only really noticeable in certain low light situations. However, it really isn't something that should be acceptable. The speakers I find adequate. Loading apps via market or sideloading via micro sd has been a breeze. Battery life has seemed very good - too good as I am at almost 5 hours unplugged (full charge on both dock and tab) and it is somehow showing 99% left! Not possible..... but if true I will ecstatic.
I should mention that I have installed the firmware upgrade that asus pushed to my unit for the dock, however I have not been able to force-push the 3.1 update so I am still on 3.01. However, from reading this and several other TF forums I do not think the main issues with this unit (or honeycomb on this unit) have been addressed with 3.1. Who knows if or when the main issues will be addressed successfully. If Asus is reading these forums hopefully they will realize that these issues are extreme enough to drive customers to other companies products. I have had an Asus laptop (g73jh) and it had some inherent keyboard issues that never were fixed and I ended up selling that laptop because of it. I will give this unit the 14 days I have to return to best buy, but I have doubts these problems are addessed by then. I hope they are because this tab has the potential to be very nice otherwise.
zephiK said:
Have you updated to 3.1? Flash for me works perfectly. No lag.
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I have not yet, and probably will soon. I have been trying to force-push the update to the unit but so far no luck. I would also like to root, and will probably use the true-root version of 3.1, athough I do not think that wil have any positive effect on the problems plaguing it currently. I do use several root apps though and if I keep the unit I will definitely root it.
I've never had problems with flash (I updated to 3.1 like an hour after I opened the box).
I use flash all the time and do not have any major issues, I use dolphin HD and it works fine including typing.
Even before the update to 3.1,it was not as bad as the OP has mentioned with the exception of the typing lag.
To say you have no lag with flash I don't believe, everybody does, every tablet that has flash capability has some lag with flash, I've used a few so I know. The TF especially has lag with flash video because it was found the it's not using hardware decoding so it's very choppy. This should be easily fixed with an update soon hopefully by either Asus or Adobe whichever one is the cause.
The lag is there for me only when in full-screen mode. When you play flash in a window - there's no lag. As soon as you go 720p full screen - lag ensues.
Its certainly encouraging to hear some feedback from people who dont seem to be having much for flash or browser typing issues. In reading several different forums it is definitely a problem that quite a few are having however. At least I am able to type at a somewhat reasonable speed to what it should be using Opera Mini. That to me is still a bandaid fix to the problem however. I will be updating to 3.1 tomorrow so I will report on if there are any positive changes after that.
On a very positive note, the battery life is looking to be amazing IF the battery percentage in the notification bar is at all accurate. After a little over 8 hours I am still at 80%, have been docked almost the entire time. Plenty of use during that time including web browsing, download and installs and quite a bit of game playing. Going to let it run almost to zero to see how long this thing will go.
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The lag is there for me only when in full-screen mode. When you play flash in a window - there's no lag. As soon as you go 720p full screen - lag ensues.
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I experience bad flash in ever browser I have tried, and when testing speeds via youtube, it was in the single digits. Certainly strange that some have units that perform so much better than others in this area.
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I experience bad flash in ever browser I have tried, and when testing speeds via youtube, it was in the single digits. Certainly strange that some have units that perform so much better than others in this area.
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It's not that some units perform better, they don't, it's just everybody's perception of smooth/choppy is their own so in some people's eyes they don't have a problem with it so it's fine, or they could just not have actually tried 720P+ flash videos in a browser
I'm not saying videos are all unplayable, but 720P+ flash videos in the browsers are choppy for everybody, HTML5 ones are fine, and this is because apparently flash video isn't using hardware decoding but should be. 720P videos in the Youtube app or playing from the transformer with video players works great. I think we will eventually see a fix for htis, hopefully sooner than later.
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Its certainly encouraging to hear some feedback from people who dont seem to be having much for flash or browser typing issues. In reading several different forums it is definitely a problem that quite a few are having however. At least I am able to type at a somewhat reasonable speed to what it should be using Opera Mini. That to me is still a bandaid fix to the problem however. I will be updating to 3.1 tomorrow so I will report on if there are any positive changes after that.
On a very positive note, the battery life is looking to be amazing IF the battery percentage in the notification bar is at all accurate. After a little over 8 hours I am still at 80%, have been docked almost the entire time. Plenty of use during that time including web browsing, download and installs and quite a bit of game playing. Going to let it run almost to zero to see how long this thing will go.
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after you update to 3.1, you'll see much better performance.
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Anyone with a Transformer has a poor flash experience. Playing a video below 360p is perfect. If anyone says they have no lag with flash on the T101 has an awful sense of frames per second.
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It's not that some units perform better, they don't, it's just everybody's perception of smooth/choppy is their own so in some people's eyes they don't have a problem with it so it's fine, or they could just not have actually tried 720P+ flash videos in a browser
I'm not saying videos are all unplayable, but 720P+ flash videos in the browsers are choppy for everybody, HTML5 ones are fine, and this is because apparently flash video isn't using hardware decoding but should be. 720P videos in the Youtube app or playing from the transformer with video players works great. I think we will eventually see a fix for htis, hopefully sooner than later.
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Im going to have to disagree with you here. Flash is so bad on my unit, and apparently on others TF's that something more than just perception differences is going on imho. BTW, I was getting low single digits on 360p setting on the youtube test. Literally like watching a very slow picture flip book, and that is being quite generous to be honest. Flash is broken on the TF - at least MY TF, and from the sounds of it for others also.
On a good note, I am still at over 50% on my battery levels, and I have been unpluggd for 13 hours now. It did sit idle for maybe 4 or 5 hours during that time, but was also used heavily while on. I
believe that the battery meter in the notification bar does not start to clock down until most of the battery has been used in the dock. At least that's my theory for why it took so long for the meter to even dip below 100%. So on my unit, I do not think the dock is draining extra when closed.
I go days without charging with very light usage. Maybe 1-2 hours per day. My TF will go at least 2 days without charging. I'm on Prime 1.5 (Android 3.1).
I've not had lag (but I use dolphin hd). I did have trouble with the included youtube app. It tended to freeze if I pause, but I haven't had trouble with youtube in dolphin.
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Got the 16 gb transformer (black seal) and dock (green seal) yesterday at best buy. Here's my thoughts after 24 hrs of use:
1) Form, build and quality are fine, however I think the Sammy 10.1 clearly wins this category.
2) Docking is a bit of a hassel at first but not bad once used to it.
3) This tab overall is sluggish and unrefined. Playing ANY flash video is a joke. HBO GO is not supported, and trying to play it in a desktop browser (dolphin hd) won't work as flash is broken on the TF. In other words, this tab barely works for my normal web usage.
4) Typing lag in browsers is beyond a joke. It's basically unusable. I am typing this on my TF with keyboard dock and it is taking forever. Google shoud be embarrased to release an OS and tab touted so highly that is basically unusuable if one wants to actually ENTER TEXT at all.
5) Most everthing else so far is fine. I use a Droid X (rooted, OC'd) and it is a ten times better experience. Honeycomb and Asus have a lot of refining to do on this tab.
Normally my posts and thoughts would be much more well put but I am stopping here as there is no way my brain can think as slow as this thing enters text in browsers. Chances are high that I will be returning this tab before my 14 day return window at best buy. I may give the Sammy 10.1 a try as most of these issues are not evident, or not as bad on that unit. I liked it better overall anyway except for the lack of a simple micro sd card slot.
again sorry for my sloppy sounding post, but that's what happens at 2 seconds per text input speeds.
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I run magnus' custom rom and installed the hulufied version of flash 10.3 and i use my stock browser(chrome)to watch hulu and it plays just fine,but in full screen mode its has very little lag,but of course i have my tab set to 140000GHZ,which makes it play smoother.Overall after 7 days of having this tab,i'm very happy with it,no returns here,this thing has alot of future possibilities.
About flash videos :
Youtube with desktop user agent 720p => LAG LAG LAG even on 480p
Youtube with tablet user agent => youtube tablet mobile website form factor => 1080p LAGLESS
So use tablet user agent on youtube and it plays fine, dunno why but whatever.
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About flash videos :
Youtube with desktop user agent 720p => LAG LAG LAG even on 480p
Youtube with tablet user agent => youtube tablet mobile website form factor => 1080p LAGLESS
So use tablet user agent on youtube and it plays fine, dunno why but whatever.
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I am using the tablet user agent too, dolphin HD browser and don't seem to have much trouble with flash so I think epicfallguy has got a very good point here.
The user agent for those who don't know can be selected from your browser settings.
RI've had my tab for a few weeks now and am generally happy with it.
The things I'm pleased with:
Battery life - can't fault it so far
Build quality
App compatability - generally no issues
Web browsing and music are good
Screen is fantastic
Things I'm unhappy with:
The omission of an actual sd card slot is an annoyance
Stock u.i laggy (using adw now)
Mac compatablity is lacking.Kies is ok for it but by no means fantastic
My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
Did you get the large update to touchwiz recently? I actually started using the stock video player now, as I don't have any problems with the playback. Unless you are enconding in some off the wall format, I would think you wouldn't have any problems.
No on the touchwiz update as yet. I have limited net access in that some things are blocked. Glorious Afghanistan I'm checking every now and then as I can bypass somethings but it's not showing any updates.
In regards to video encoding I've used settings recommended in these forums and also trialled the pavtube program as well as numerous others including handbrake. Pulling my hair out over it!
i agree with you with the Video Support, coming from the Galaxy s phone the Tab almost doesn't play anything without converting and stuff on my phone it just play everything without a need for any video player other than stock
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RMy biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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I had the same issue as you - pretty much everything I tried to play on the GT would break up or have other issues. I was about to return the tablet when I tried transferring a video over WiFi rather than Kies for the Mac. To my surprised it played flawlessly.
So, I rather suspect that your problem is Kies performing some sort of erroneous conversion on the video as it is transferring the video across to the tablet.
I don't use Kies for the Mac anymore, and always transfer files via WiFi, and seldom have any playback issues now.
Regards,
Dave
If you transfer photos/movies from a MAC via the current version of kies then these get corrupted...
I'll try the wifi tip cheers. Although a friend has a 5 year old laptop that I tried the converted videos on and the same breakup occured through vlc. No probs with any of the encoded videos through vlc on my mac pro though.
Tried the wifi tip and works Shame it's a little on the slow side but it'll do till there's a better way
Kies is definately broken for the mac, it hasn't corrupted every video I transferred but enough to really annoy!
Cheers for the tip
The touchwiz update is almost perfect IMHO, I had lags with vanilla ui but since twz update, I enjoy my tab except for one thing:
My fingers literally hurt from overuse of gab10.1!
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The Tegra 2 is not capable to decoding most HD video. The video accelerator (seperate from the GPU) is simply too slow and can not decode most h.264 profiles other than profiles which are obsolete (baseline for example)
Sorry folks, its not a problem with the actual software, its the Tegra 2 which is simply too slow to decode much of todays HD video.
Agreed. As an owner of both a Captivate and Tab 10.1 I am less than impressed with the video performance of this Tab. My Cappy blows it away.
Now the only thing the Tab has over the Cappy is support for legacy DIVX codecs. With the latest update all of my DIVX movies work. But the Cappy still runs laps over the Tab. A shame really. One step forward, two steps back.
You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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Use Dice player, and u will see how all videos will played nice!
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You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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I won't count on that. The chipset used in Captivate is even older than Tegra 2. It's all about the drivers and matuality of the OS. HoneyComb just don't have much video codec support to be hornest. Tegra 1 chip in my Zune player plays 720p video better than Tegra 2 in my Tab. And there are 3rd party player app that can use Tegra 2 hardware acceleration to play videos that stock player can't. This is all software limitations in stock HC. Even when Tegra 3 comes out, HC as is will have the same limitation unless Google gets its act together.
I use dice player now, and my tab plays anything I throw at it. 1080p MKVs and avi files play awesome, even supports the multiple audio tracks and subtitles. No complaints here.
I personally don't need any more power in the tablet, it does everything I want it to do flawlessly.
So... I have a Nexus 7 ordered *woot!*.
I was glad to hear it could use keyboards and such! But...I was wondering if anyone had some real world battery tests or comments, if you have one already. How is it?
9 hours?
Well considering Jelly bean nor this tablet has been officially released yet anything posted is just speculation. Need to wait for the final device to be shipped before we can make any firm judgements.
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miketoasty said:
Well considering Jelly bean nor this tablet has been officially released yet anything posted is just speculation. Need to wait for the final device to be shipped before we can make any firm judgements.
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I figured as much, but I thought I heard the folks who went to the event got a Nexus 7 for free? I thought they might of done some tests.
engadget and some other places did tests and they averaged like 9 hours
>engadget and some other places did tests and they averaged like 9 hours
Teg3 devices generally have longer run-time for video playback than normal use, provided hardware decoding is used. That means the video needs to be natively supported (MP4/AAC). If video is MKV/DTS/AC3/etc that needs software decoding, runtime will be substantially less.
Engadget's rundown test involves leaving wifi on and endlessly looping video playback. This positively skews run-time length. Official spec is "up to 8 hrs."
A few sites, such as Anandtech, have standardized battery rundown tests, which test video playback separate from normal use. Anand has not done a full review of the N7, but we can look at its TF700T's run-time test as a basis:
TF700T: web browsing = 8hrs, video playback = 10.25hrs, 3D gaming = 3.7hrs
Using web browsing as a base for "normal use," then (hardware-decoded) video playback gets 128% of normal run-time, and 3D gaming gets almost half normal run-time.
Normalized with these data, Engadget's runtime for "normal" use would be 7 hours, and 3D gaming would be 3-4 hours. This is more in line with the official "up to 8 hours" runtime.
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>engadget and some other places did tests and they averaged like 9 hours
Teg3 devices generally have longer run-time for video playback than normal use, provided hardware decoding is used. That means the video needs to be natively supported (MP4/AAC). If video is MKV/DTS/AC3/etc that needs software decoding, runtime will be substantially less.
Engadget's rundown test involves leaving wifi on and endlessly looping video playback. This positively skews run-time length. Official spec is "up to 8 hrs."
A few sites, such as Anandtech, have standardized battery rundown tests, which test video playback separate from normal use. Anand has not done a full review of the N7, but we can look at its TF700T's run-time test as a basis:
TF700T: web browsing = 8hrs, video playback = 10.25hrs, 3D gaming = 3.7hrs
Using web browsing as a base for "normal use," then (hardware-decoded) video playback gets 128% of normal run-time, and 3D gaming gets almost half normal run-time.
Normalized with these data, Engadget's runtime for "normal" use would be 7 hours, and 3D gaming would be 3-4 hours. This is more in line with the official "up to 8 hours" runtime.
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This correlates pretty closely to my own Tegra 3 tablet experiences. On the Prime and the Excite 7.7, I saw the longest battery life running video (in my case Netflix), the least battery life running games (natch), and a mix of app battery life depending on whether or not the browser was used. The more browser use (including, e.g., an RSS reader that uses the browser engine), the less battery life. On both tablets, browsing burned about 15%/hour, while something like ebook reading burned 10%/hour or less (except on the Excite 7.7 because of the mostly white screen, which killed battery life; switch to a black background and the thing lasts much longer).
Bottom line is that in my experience, the Tegra 3 is all over the map in terms of battery performance. Some use cases are excellent, some are much less so. I'm not expecting more than 7 hours of real-world, actual use out of the Nexus 7. If I get more than that, I'll be happy.
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My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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If it's only getting hot with certain apps or content, it's probably those apps or content stressing your device, not the device being defective. This CPU does get a bit hot sometimes. I don't know if all ARM CPUs are like this, or just the ones I have.
I suggest you install the Battery Widget app by Elvison, so that you can see how hot Android says the CPU is getting when you do these things. We can then compare temperatures, if you also note the background temperature in your town when you are testing, so we can compare how much hotter the device gets from the baseline background temperature. I have gotten my HTC One X+ to report a temperature of 60 degrees C when playing a lot of HD video, but while my Nexus 10 gets somewhat hot, it never gets that hot. :fingers-crossed:
benzs129 said:
My nexus 10 had become really warm around back camera after using chrome apps for a few minutes about 7 minutes or so. Web site I mostly visit are
kotaku.com
theverge.com
batoto.com
This noticeable warmness only occur when I use web browser app. Funny thing that when I watch movie using MX player Hw+, watching anime MKV 8 bit the device never seem to get hot, except when watching in SW for 10 bit anime it get extremely hot.
Youtube app also shows no singe of this warmness.
Do I get the defected device? Please help me with this I really don't want to get the replacement.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi, that is perfectly normal. What a lot of people don't know is that web rendering is one/if not the most CPU intensive ask you'll do on your tablet. So for it to get warm at the back after several minutes stressing the CPU out from web rendering is not bad at all. It's nothing to worry about, every phone/ tablet does this. Hope this helps
Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.
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Plus the wifi chip dumps out a lot of heat just by itself, even if it isnt even being used very hard.
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The wifi combo chips don't draw a lot of power, and usually go into a low-power idle mode for even less draw (already just a few milliwatts max)...
(Giving benefit of doubt because N10 has dual MIMO fancy chip. Might draw a bit more. Still feels wrong, though.)
Are you sure?
Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.
believe it or not it probably chrome... i had the same issue with my nexus 4.... try using boat browser or something else lightweight and see if that changes anything
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Yep I am very sure. If I leave the wifi on when I play a game I will hit thermal throttling WAY faster than with it off, and the tablet feels much warmer overall as well. Turning wifi off and doing the same thing lowers the reported temperatures by around 5-6 degrees Celsius.
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Right, but the correlation between heat reducing with wifi off doesn't mean the wifi chip itself is the source of the heat. It could just as easily be that having wifi on allows background processes to connect to the network, and their use of the CPU increases load, thus heat.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that assuming cause from correlation is tricky.
Should be easy to resolve for someone with a laser thermometer.
Another thought: Display brightness is directly related to a fair amount of heat output. Maybe you changed that setting.
Has anyone used both devices and willing to share their experiences? I assume on paper the LTE version should blow it away. I went to Verizon today with my wifi in hand and attempted to compare the units. Apparently, thanks to the demo and the bloat, it struggled to open a web page on wifi while mine was fast. I am hoping to find a comparison using real results and examples. I can't even find one on youtube. Has anyone else been wondering this?? I know I can't be the only one...
Thanks!!
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Has anyone used both devices and willing to share their experiences? I assume on paper the LTE version should blow it away. I went to Verizon today with my wifi in hand and attempted to compare the units. Apparently, thanks to the demo and the bloat, it struggled to open a web page on wifi while mine was fast. I am hoping to find a comparison using real results and examples. I can't even find one on youtube. Has anyone else been wondering this?? I know I can't be the only one...
Thanks!!
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There is no difference. The exynos is actually faster than the snapdragon 800. But the snapdragon has a bit faster gpu. You won't notice any difference unless your perceptions are that one Has to be faster. Both are insanely powerful and great. He just charges a little faster
How about codec support (for video). I've noticed that on my wifi version that I get quite a few crashes with most (all?) players and some videos end up being in software instead of hardware (I mostly use h.264+mkv). I wonder if the snapdragon version works better in this department (software decoding is fast enough but higher battery drain).
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There is no difference. The exynos is actually faster than the snapdragon 800. But the snapdragon has a bit faster gpu. You won't notice any difference unless your perceptions are that one Has to be faster. Both are insanely powerful and great. He just charges a little faster
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Haven't had any issues on my 12.2 Wifi with MX Player and H.264/dts MKV files played through my local network. Using H/W+ and the software dts decoder. Played them full screen and using multi-window.
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How about codec support (for video). I've noticed that on my wifi version that I get quite a few crashes with most (all?) players and some videos end up being in software instead of hardware (I mostly use h.264+mkv). I wonder if the snapdragon version works better in this department (software decoding is fast enough but higher battery drain).
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I never have this issue. The only thing im aware of is playing 4k video doesnt work on the exynos.....I dont have any 4k video though so this doesnt bother me
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I was upset about Dice Player losing its AC3 license, which made watching my mkv videos impossible. I tried MX Player and Archos player, but neither had the great features of Dice like configurable audio delay (which I need for my BT headphones). Also, the carousel interface in Archos was twitchy and a pain to use, and I had to keep reverting to software decoding for most of my videos. BS Player turns out to have all the features I need and plays everything via hardware. Very happy about it.
I have the Exynos Note 10.1 and Snapdragon Note Pro, and I don't really notice a huge difference between the two. I haven't done a lot of comparing in regards to battery and charging.
I will say, the LTE on the Note Pro is super fast.
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I was upset about Dice Player losing its AC3 license, which made watching my mkv videos impossible. I tried MX Player and Archos player, but neither had the great features of Dice like configurable audio delay (which I need for my BT headphones). Also, the carousel interface in Archos was twitchy and a pain to use, and I had to keep reverting to software decoding for most of my videos. BS Player turns out to have all the features I need and plays everything via hardware. Very happy about it.
I have the Exynos Note 10.1 and Snapdragon Note Pro, and I don't really notice a huge difference between the two. I haven't done a lot of comparing in regards to battery and charging.
I will say, the LTE on the Note Pro is super fast.
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Hanson... Do you find the opening and closing of apps to be quicker on the LTE? I have had about 8 apps open on the wifi ( my lte comes tomorrow) and browsing on chrome was so slow, it drove me nuts. Maybe 8 open apps was too much for the tablet to handle.
Sudbury78 said:
Hanson... Do you find the opening and closing of apps to be quicker on the LTE? I have had about 8 apps open on the wifi ( my lte comes tomorrow) and browsing on chrome was so slow, it drove me nuts. Maybe 8 open apps was too much for the tablet to handle.
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I've never had an Android device where Chrome wasn't laggy. I use Dolphin as my daily driver (with flash naturally), and flash fox for two sites I need which don't like the webkit engine.
Dolphin just flies.
Sudbury78 said:
Hanson... Do you find the opening and closing of apps to be quicker on the LTE? I have had about 8 apps open on the wifi ( my lte comes tomorrow) and browsing on chrome was so slow, it drove me nuts. Maybe 8 open apps was too much for the tablet to handle.
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Iv had up to 12 in popup windows. Chrome just sucks. Everything else was still smooth.
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I also use Dolphin because it's faster and smoother. It's also much easier to save to Pocket.
It's hard for me to compare the two directly since I've been using the 10.1 for three months now while the Pro is brand new. The Pro is also for work, so there are a lot less games and apps installed.
You might try BSDplayer. I swtich routinely between dice, bsd and mx player. With regards to the above posts; I am not using 4K videos and I'm not talking about lag. What happens is that if I seek in the movie it can either crash the player or cause the player to loose hardware decode. This has happened with dice, mx and samsung's video palyer. One thing that is nice about BSplayer is that i can explicitly ask it to retry hardware deocidng after it switches to software (with dice i have to exit and reenter for it to re-attempt hadware decoding). The videos are a mixture of 720P and 1080P mkv (h.264/mp3). Dice is my favorite player but I'm leaning torwards the most recent update of BS (all three mx,dice,bsd) are similar and they seem to leap frog each other. The nice thing about dice is it is 'free'. The free version of bsd and mx have ads and the paid version are $5.50 and $6.50 (I prefer bs to mx).
Hanson68 said:
I was upset about Dice Player losing its AC3 license, which made watching my mkv videos impossible. I tried MX Player and Archos player, but neither had the great features of Dice like configurable audio delay (which I need for my BT headphones). Also, the carousel interface in Archos was twitchy and a pain to use, and I had to keep reverting to software decoding for most of my videos. BS Player turns out to have all the features I need and plays everything via hardware. Very happy about it.
I have the Exynos Note 10.1 and Snapdragon Note Pro, and I don't really notice a huge difference between the two. I haven't done a lot of comparing in regards to battery and charging.
I will say, the LTE on the Note Pro is super fast.
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What about performance between LTE and 3g model ???
I have 3g and there is a lag as we used with samsung devices when open apps
I think this lag not existing in LTE version, i don't sure if this true or not so any one of you tried both versions ???
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What about performance between LTE and 3g model ???
I have 3g and there is a lag as we used with samsung devices when open apps
I think this lag not existing in LTE version, i don't sure if this true or not so any one of you tried both versions ???
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Well the 3g version has the Exynos 5 5420 processor just like the Wifi version so one would think that it would perform similarly to the Wifi version . . .
I had both and returned them as the lag was too annoying to me. I just use my lightning fast note 3 and my iPad 3 which actually runs smoother.
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I had both and returned them as the lag was too annoying to me. I just use my lightning fast note 3 and my iPad 3 which actually runs smoother.
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Wasnt the LTE a bit faster and smoother?
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A nice comparison between the two, but a translation is necesarry for those that dont speak german: http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-U...ote-Pro-12-2-LTE-SM-P905-Tablet.112965.0.html
We all know the LTE version has the quickcharge, but the review clearly mentions: "In fact, the running times of the Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 LTE again by up to 20 minutes shorter than its sister model, with WiFi."
So while you get a faster charger its battery life is shorter, up to 20 min, because of the added stuff.
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