[Q] Task manager suggestions? - Acer Iconia A500

Hi people! I've come off the virtous galaxy rom to try the latest effort by Thor ( which is really good, btw ) and man, do I miss the task manager that VG had. In a perfect world there would be one that worked in a similar fashion and was as easily accessable as the one in VG. Suggestions welcomed, I'm totally okay with spending some $$ on a good one if there's a paid one that is worthy. Thanks, much appreciated!

I would also like to know, if any good task Manager out there.
Thanx!

angus454 said:
Hi people! I've come off the virtous galaxy rom to try the latest effort by Thor ( which is really good, btw ) and man, do I miss the task manager that VG had. In a perfect world there would be one that worked in a similar fashion and was as easily accessable as the one in VG. Suggestions welcomed, I'm totally okay with spending some $$ on a good one if there's a paid one that is worthy. Thanks, much appreciated!
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What features did you like about the task manager? I never ran the rom so i dont know which one it had. But I personally use the one that comes with astro file manager. Its simple and meets my needs of monitoring apps, I dont kill apps very often.

It's like paying a gardener, to pull your weeds, which only take 5 minutes to do yourself.
Learn android. Don't take the lazyass way to do what you should probably be learning yourself.
Unless you want less battery life.

I use Mobo Task Killer and if in Astro there's a Task Killer there.

Sherwood315 said:
I use Mobo Task Killer and if in Astro there's a Task Killer there.
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Both of which defeats the purpose of running HC. As Moscow stated, if you want your tab to run slow, and worsen battery life, by all means use a task killer that is meant for Froyo, Gingerbread, etc.

kjy2010 said:
Both of which defeats the purpose of running HC. As Moscow stated, if you want your tab to run slow, and worsen battery life, by all means use a task killer that is meant for Froyo, Gingerbread, etc.
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Thats why I only use it for monitoring . Dont know why I do, guess its just my geeky side wanting to know whats going on and seeing all the stats and crap lol.

kjy2010 said:
Both of which defeats the purpose of running HC. As Moscow stated, if you want your tab to run slow, and worsen battery life, by all means use a task killer that is meant for Froyo, Gingerbread, etc.
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Batavia? LOL! Okay so I could drive to your town in about 15 minutes from holley Anyhow, I know using task managers on android is not really a good idea, and yes, i know how to go in and force close things that remain running after I close them. the beauty of the VG rom was the simplicity of it, in two clicks it shut down apps and background processes that were unnecessary. This was an integrated part of the Samsung OEM rom, not an add on by the VG rom developer, so that suggests it's safe to use within the HC environment. I think ultimately my real goal is to maximize efficency and battery life by having apps close when I close them, you know?

angus454 said:
Batavia? LOL! Okay so I could drive to your town in about 15 minutes from holley Anyhow, I know using task managers on android is not really a good idea, and yes, i know how to go in and force close things that remain running after I close them. the beauty of the VG rom was the simplicity of it, in two clicks it shut down apps and background processes that were unnecessary. This was an integrated part of the Samsung OEM rom, not an add on by the VG rom developer, so that suggests it's safe to use within the HC environment. I think ultimately my real goal is to maximize efficency and battery life by having apps close when I close them, you know?
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That's the point, if you're using something like advanced task killer, etc. You're not actually doing your battery life any good. HC is not gingerbread. I'll tell you what will do your battery good, and that's to root, and rip out all the extra [email protected] that Acer has running in the background constantly, which is the very first thing I rip out of my ROMs before putting them out. Extends battery life, and increases speed

Good advice! Next time I'm down at Alex's place and see you I'll buy your next beer

angus454 said:
Good advice! Next time I'm down at Alex's place and see you I'll buy your next beer
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lol I'm actually in Oakfield (I know you know where that is).
Tully's on Sundays once in awhile for a Bills game, not much of a drinker

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Task/app manger

Looking for some advice please.
I am currenty using ES Task Manager to control apps and tasks, and kill whatever necessary. But wanted to know if anyone has used anything better, and had experience of using my current one.
Any advise or suggestions would be great.
Cheers
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sammyb0210 said:
Looking for some advice please.
I am currenty using ES Task Manager to control apps and tasks, and kill whatever necessary. But wanted to know if anyone has used anything better, and had experience of using my current one.
Any advise or suggestions would be great.
Cheers
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Yes, there is a better task manager.
Just go to Settings>Applications>Manage applications
find ES Task Manager, click on it and then select Uninstall.
Then you will be running the latest version of No F**** Task Manager
which should do miracles on your phone, along with your OCD on killing applications, only to see them pop up again seconds later,
because that's just how the Android works.
No offence! Nothing personal here,
I am just tired of arguing with people over the same matter.
Before opening a new thread, make a search!
As far as task managers are concerned, look here.
It's a long article but totally worth reading.
I've been where you are when I bought my first Android device,
it's only natural.
But, right now I am not using any task management/killing application on my X10 and I am more than happy with its performance.
Let alone, more relaxed that I don't just have-to-kill applications in a robotic and manic way!
Cheers!
Very helpful read, thank you very much for the link.
I will take the advice and let the phone do all the hardwork.
After all it is a 'Smart Phone'
Thanks anyway!!
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I agree with My_Inmortal (love that song!). I been using es task manager and others app killers, and since I unintall them my phone seems to work nicer. And I do not worry now abuot apps running in the backgound or my free ram. I just let the phone do it for me and it's great. I was going mad pushing the widget 20 times per day and watching which apps were running... Now I don't care and everything is Ok. Even my health, LOL
+ 1 on both if those comments.. I've not been using task managers or startup managers for a couple of months now.. And both me and the phone are better without them!
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Well, that's only half the truth.
Android's auto killing feature performs very well.
But only as long as the Apps are coded correctly.
But there are several Apps, that have no "exit" button to end them manually. So they are working on in the background.
I for example make use of the autokilling features of an App called "Task Manager" and modified the App autostart behavior with "Autostarts".
Voila, the battery gained about 40% Standby.
Autokilling is also nice for the Apps _with_ Exit button, on which I forgot to exit them...
So there is no "Use an Autokiller" or "Don't use an Autokiller".
It depends on the individual used Apps and how Android is treated.
McKebapp said:
Well, that's only half the truth.
Android's auto killing feature performs very well.
But only as long as the Apps are coded correctly.
But there are several Apps, that have no "exit" button to end them manually. So they are working on in the background.
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You are better off without that kind of apps anyway.
And if you didn't exit an app, after some period of inactivity, the system will shut it down.
Look here, I am using all these apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/iridaki/apps-on-the-x10i
and not a single one of them is causing my phone any problems at all.
Free RAM is wasted RAM on Android, there is absolutely no point in obsessing about it.
Of course, having a task manager won't harm your phone, but auto or continuously manually killing will.
Period.
I was no talking about battery gain. Maybe you're right at this point. But for me, my phone works better since i don't have it. And i just killed apps i did not use, like moxier, photoshop, etc. Don't know why, but now works nicer.
Zenghelis said:
I was no talking about battery gain. Maybe you're right at this point. But for me, my phone works better since i don't have it. And i just killed apps i did not use, like moxier, photoshop, etc. Don't know why, but now works nicer.
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Don't mean to be a [email protected] in the @ss, but if you cannot define "nicer",
then it proves nothing!
It could be a placebo effect from the very well know Moxier-obsession!
Anyway, there are facts and then there is user experience.
Eveybody feels different and is entitled to use his phone any way he feels like.
But the facts are still facts.
My_Immortal said:
Don't mean to be a [email protected] in the @ss, but if you cannot define "nicer",
then it proves nothing!
It could be a placebo effect from the very well know Moxier-obsession!
Anyway, there are facts and then there is user experience.
Eveybody feels different and is entitled to use his phone any way he feels like.
But the facts are still facts.
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Well i meant my phone does not lag or get stuck anymore since i don't use task killers. Maybe i was doing something wrong, but i don't think it's only my impression.
PS: sorry if I cannot explain it clearer, my enghlish it not good enough
Zenghelis said:
Well i meant my phone does not lag or get stuck anymore since i don't use task killers. Maybe i was doing something wrong, but i don't think it's only my impression.
PS: sorry if I cannot explain it clearer, my enghlish it not good enough
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Your english are perfect!

Should i use a task killer? Atk?

SHOULD I USE A TASK KILLER?
The tips&tricks thread (nice by the way) answered;
"Absolutely not. You have the best OS and one of the best spec'd phones ever. You would be doing more harm than good. If you do have one, uninstall, reboot and let me know what you think!"
I don't get it. You'll be doing more harm than good? Right now I'm using Advanced Task Killer along with Auto Task Killer and it has definitely made a difference in my battery life.
Why would you NOT want to have these apps?
I'm confused LOL
I don't use one at all. I don't see the need for one on this phone...
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iceman1251 said:
I don't use one at all. I don't see the need for one on this phone...
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It surprised me when I did see all the programs running ... would it not be of a benefit to close those for the sake of the battery? I found this to be very true and it was a noticeable with my battery.
I'm just trying to figure out why that other guy would say to uninstall it. Reasons...
I was using one for reasons of speed, but I stopped using it and I honestly did not notice a difference in performance or battery life. So for me, I will no longer be using a task killer. I simply don't see the need.
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In the time of low spec'd Android phones it was need. But with phones with fast processors and lots of ram its not really needed any more. Some people have said it even slows down the phone.
Task killers are a waste of time for any phone that has 256 RAM and up.
I'll let others chime in, but the reason I put that in the sticky is because I listen to those who know more than me... and EVERYONE who is in the know with android (developers and google) suggest task killers do more harm than good. I did not intend to come off harshly in the sticky, but I don't want those new to android thinking this is something they need to do.... when in fact, it could cause a lot of problems and they would not even be aware it was the cause.
Hope that helps, a little...
OK, like the OP, i do not get this claim that Killers do more harm.
Suppose you started a game which took 50-100K of your valuable RAM. Even if you have 500K of it, not much is actually left for apps. Even if you quit playing the game or other memory hungry app, it often still hangs in memory. Eventually you will have several pages of different apps which you've used over last days
What's wrong is with kicking them from there? How can this be harmful? That's sounds like a nonsense.
Don''t you all know also that unused memory is switched off by power management to save the battery?
Hahaa... okay, you are correct. Google and the ROM chefs are all wrong. Android is not capable of killing off apps when they are no longer needed. Everyone, rush to the market and immediately start killing off every app the second you close it. Especially the system apps you never use.
Alright, enough sarcasm (didnt mean to sound rude). Like I said in the sticky and above, I am only quoting those MUCH more knowledgeable on the subject. I will admit I purchased a task killer 2 years ago... and I hate seeing it under "Downloads" in the market as "Purchased" now. If you feel the need to kill off apps, so be it. But for those new to Android (and those who are very familiar), it is mine (and others) opinions, especially on the Vibrant, to not use a task killer.
Even Google at Google I/O 2010 told app developers to no longer add "Quit" or "Close" into their apps, as they were NOT needed.
This thread helped me. I have cleaned up the Sticky with more input. Here is a good article from a few months ago that sums it up well (also now in the sticky):
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
To the OP, thanks... this did help me and I'm certain a lot of others were probably put off by my vagueness. Do you think this makes it better now? Anything else needed you think?
s15274n said:
Hahaa... okay, you are correct. Google and the ROM chefs are all wrong. Android is not capable of killing off apps when they are no longer needed. Everyone, rush to the market and immediately start killing off every app the second you close it. Especially the system apps you never use.
Alright, enough sarcasm (didnt mean to sound rude). Like I said in the sticky and above, I am only quoting those MUCH more knowledgeable on the subject. I will admit I purchased a task killer 2 years ago... and I hate seeing it under "Downloads" in the market as "Purchased" now. If you feel the need to kill off apps, so be it. But for those new to Android (and those who are very familiar), it is mine (and others) opinions, especially on the Vibrant, to not use a task killer.
Even Google at Google I/O 2010 told app developers to no longer add "Quit" or "Close" into their apps, as they were NOT needed.
This thread helped me. I have cleaned up the Sticky with more input. Here is a good article from a few months ago that sums it up well (also now in the sticky):
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
To the OP, thanks... this did help me and I'm certain a lot of others were probably put off by my vagueness. Do you think this makes it better now? Anything else needed you think?
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I really appreciate your dedication and yes it did help me built onto my knowledge base. As I always tell people, "If you don't know what you don't know then YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, however, if you do know than YOU THEN HAVE A CHOICE."
I really think using AutoKiller is a better method to controlling what you have running in the background.
Finally someone to educate the masses ... time to get them off this task/app killer *CrAcK*
Dan0zonE
As said previously. Maybe worth using them on a G1 but not on any recent phone.
For those who do think it worth running them. How quickly do new apps open? Lets say you kill 30 apps, how long before 30 new apps are running? 20mins? If it's such a huge drain on resources why has google not fixed this issue, its been around since the first retail offering G1 with android 1.1? In fact, as previously pointed out google does not recommend even using task killers. I would say using a task killer to kill the apps is a far bigger drain (cpu, battery) that allowing android to as it was intended.
Android is not like windows. Android will shut down and make available what is needed. It does not need any help.
They cause more problems than good. Task killers slowed my phone down more.
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The problem with task killers is two fold.
First you have to really grasp what you are killing. Many apps and services are interdependant so killing the wrong app or process can result in apps dead-ending, or worse locking up and taking all the cpu task time (which will make battery use worse).
Second, everyone's phones are different. We may all run an identical build of 2.1 on our Vibrants, but I'd wager each of us is running a different set of 3rd party applications, so anecdotal statements that "task killers work" don't necessarily mean anything, other than for you specifically.
Here's the bottom line. So long as you do not have a buggy app taking ridiculous amounts of cpu time your battery life is solely dependant on what you are doing with and have installed on the phone. The Android Service UI does an excellent job of handling task management, providing those 3rd party tasks are behaving. Apps on the market do not go through an orwellian level of scrutiny like on the Apple App Store, and many (if not most) are currently in a constant state of development owing to the explosive growth of our smartphone platform.
And one additional tip thanks to the Vibrants styling. As the phone is incredibly thin, it's quite easy to feel when the cpu is a crankin! If after you've locked your phone for 10 minutes or so the upper middle back is warm? You probably have sleep issues with an app or apps.
In essence welcome to beta testing, even if you didn't realize it. And welcome to the consequences of an open platform.
Use the built in battery stats, market apps like spare parts, and you can likely discover what 3rd party apps you may have that are giving your battery grief. The level of detail you can gain from the built in stats in 2.1 are excellent and immensely useful, providing you use them.
In my experience apps and widgets that routinely poll for data and interrupt the phone's sleep process are the main culprit you can control. And the OS's built in battery usage statistics can really tell you what is going on.
Some apps may look cool and do great things, but if they're interrupting the sleep process or eating entirely too much cpu when they are active, you're probably best off trying one of the gazillion alternatives to that app available on the market.
I flash my occasional ROM, but am not a developer of any sort. this post has been great insight into my many attempts to "protect" my phone from the running apps. I did start to notice that advanced task killer was asking me to shut down system processes that I would never know what they do. Now obviously I can see the third party apps and scrolling widgets that needed to be closed when I finally let my device sit, but after uninstalling ATK I have found that my device is actually running more smoothly.
FYI - a simple battery pull at the end of the day has been my best medicine.
thanks for the discussion guys!
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Don''t you all know also that unused memory is switched off by power management to save the battery?
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I hope that was meant as a jest.
Never used one on my G1 from the day I bought it an I was one of the early adopters, and now to the Vibrant.
I've always had awesome battery usage and I just use my phone. I've never used a task killer in my PC so I don't see how this is any different.
Task killers are IMHO a waste of space and money if they charge.
This is one if the best threads on XDA about task killers. I will make a point and link it in the sticky thread also. Really encouraged by the Vibrant forums.
From what I have heard, tasks when you first load a rom need to run to configure. If you keep closing them they will keep trying to run to do what they need to. So, it actually slows you down.
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Android does a TERRIBLE job at cpu management

Ok, so I finally bought into this whole "task killers are horrible especially on froyo" bit and have not used one for a couple months and have factory reseted my phone between then and now.
There times my phone barely functions. I am currently listening to music and it skips every few seconds because the phone is so slow. Why isn't android killing the background apps? Sure, in a FEW HOURS it will be working ok again but give me a break. Why is it so bad?
Where is the music you are listening to? Your sdcard? Pandora's servers?
I have no trouble with the speed of my EVO..
/shrug my phones speeds are great !
Just try nHAVS, that's something you are thinking about
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i dont seem to have this problem either. even my friends that are too dumb to figure out how to root and install custom roms dont have this problem.... weird.
I use a task killer. I have no problems with it on Froyo. Sometimes my phone is running a little slower than I'd like it to, and I use the task killer and it helps. I really don't know why people have such a problem with task killers. I think it helps me more than it hurts, but if someone wants to chime and fill me in as to why they are frowned upon, maybe I'll change my mind about them.
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I use a task killer. I have no problems with it on Froyo. Sometimes my phone is running a little slower than I'd like it to, and I use the task killer and it helps. I really don't know why people have such a problem with task killers. I think it helps me more than it hurts, but if someone wants to chime and fill me in as to why they are frowned upon, maybe I'll change my mind about them.
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I always used a task killer mainly cuz I think it improved battery life a bit and also never bought into the anti task killer mentality. But since Froyo no longer lets them completely kill the app I've stopped using them. To me they seem unnecessary now.
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I don't think its anything that the phone is running in the background. I think its the kernel you might be running. I am running Netarchy 4.1. 9.1. And it does that, I was also running KingxKlick #4 I believe when it was doing that.
Try using a different kernel.
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
Hellooo.... I said nHAVS
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I think the OP needs to be a bit more specific. What music app? Is everything slow? Custom ROM or stock? Did you try wiping both caches?
This problem wouldn't be considered normal for anyone. So either it is an easy fix, or you might have a defective phone.
Need more details, what ROM & Kernel are you using? What apps do you have?
I use a task killer but only manually and only kill apps I know don't need to be open, it works great. You just shouldnt use them if you are one of those people that wants to kill every single process that is in memory.
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I don't think its anything that the phone is running in the background. I think its the kernel you might be running. I am running Netarchy 4.1. 9.1. And it does that, I was also running KingxKlick #4 I believe when it was doing that.
Try using a different kernel.
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
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Are you using the BFS or CFS version? The BFS version did that to me as well, CFS runs perfect though.
I still wanna find the person that wrote the development guideline that says that apps shouldn't have a Quit option in the settings. It's one thing to back out of an app to do something else, then come back to where you left it. But a lot of times, I KNOW I'm finished with an app, I want to release its resources NOW and there's no Quit option. It's probably some of these that don't let go nicely that cause me to have much worse battery life one day than the next.
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I still wanna find the person that wrote the development guideline that says that apps shouldn't have a Quit option in the settings. It's one thing to back out of an app to do something else, then come back to where you left it. But a lot of times, I KNOW I'm finished with an app, I want to release its resources NOW and there's no Quit option. It's probably some of these that don't let go nicely that cause me to have much worse battery life one day than the next.
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Give them a good punch for me. Add a QUIT option next time!
Please be helpful to the op guys.
OP, if you haven't done so after you stopped using a task killer, you should do a factory reset. One of the issues with task killers is it can mess up the way Android handles tasks automatically. So if you do a factory reset and don't run any task killers, Android gets pretty efficient on its own and you shouldn't have any more issues. If you are using a custom kernel/rom like others are saying, then you'll want to try switching Roms. Remember to do a full wipe any time you switch roms/kernels. Also, if you are using Titanium backup when switching, don't replace everything. I had a lot of issues when I did that because it can replace some things that won't work right when replaced on a new rom. Plus, if you are having performance problems, it can also be caused by a specific app or service, and restoring it will only bring the problem to the new Rom. I suggest using App Brain to backup your apps and Titanium for only a few specific things, like Scenes and SMS.
Try the Factory reset first without installing anything. Give it a day and see how well it performs. If that works, add things back and see if it still performs well. If that doesn't work, try a different Rom if you are using a custom one or a new kernel if using a custom kernel. If stock, then you probably have a specific app that is causing issues and you'll want to uninstall it. Android will remain pretty speedy if you don't use a task killer as it learns and becomes more efficient at handling tasks.
To all those that say task killers work great, the reason you don't understand the issue is because you haven't read how Android works and how task killers interfere. They are bad, and even Google's engineers say that. They wrote the platform, so I'd recommend that you follow their advice. You can really screw stuff up with a task killer and overall they don't actually help you at all. Most people find that they use more power and resources than they end up saving, since if they are running on automatic, they are actively using resources to stop apps. That, and the system uses more resources to restart an app after its killed, which will worsen battery life and resources more than if you just let it run. Most "running" apps are actually just sitting in memory, doing nothing. When Android is running properly, it manages the memory, keeping it mostly full of apps that it thinks you might need in the future sitting there. If you open an app that isn't already in memory, it chooses to close other apps that you are less likely to use to give back enough memory for the current app.
In short, if you are having issues with Android not managing resources properly, its either because you screwed it up using a task killer, or you screwed it up with some mod that interferes with Android's resource management tools, which will either make it unstable or break it completely.

[Q] Want to remove VZ bloat and speed up my phone

Now that I am rooted........
What VZ crap can I safely remove and what can I do to speed up my phone.
I already installed titanium backup and removed a few things like tetris and need for speed.
Im new to this as well and someone may have lots of better ideas, that id love to read as well. However my personal pet peive is when i tell the phone to go somewhere or do a certain task and it "glitches" persay to catch up on internal memory to run what you asked...however i found,
Memory Autokiller (found in market)
It requires root and allows you to select presets to give your phone parsed memory, from Strict to LoSt!!!!! I usually run agressive and will always input your setting up boot-up and i promise i have NEVER had to wait on ANYTHING i told my phone to do it moves quickly and quielty.....INSTANTLY.....to what i told it to!
why clean up vzw blaot when you can flash a clean rom that has no bloat from the get go. flash something like superclean1.0. it is 2.2 and debliated and deodexed. did i mention its 2.2. also app killers amd memory killers a waste of time, processor, and battery. its not windows, the android os is designed to run with things frozen in the back ground. the sales people always put that crap on peoples phones and they need to quit.
Everyone has opinions...i wouldnt remove my memory autokiller for anyone for any reason .. I have personally seen the difference using this app and it makes me quite content!!
However I do agree with the Superclean...saves alot of time!!!
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what are your setting at on mem killer?
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why clean up vzw blaot when you can flash a clean rom that has no bloat from the get go. flash something like superclean1.0. it is 2.2 and debliated and deodexed. did i mention its 2.2. also app killers amd memory killers a waste of time, processor, and battery. its not windows, the android os is designed to run with things frozen in the back ground. the sales people always put that crap on peoples phones and they need to quit.
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first of all does it sound like the op is ready for flashing roms and all that? And if task killers are a waste than why even bother removing bloat if the system is designed to handle a million apps running at once?
It has been proven that task killers do more harm than good
Kevin Gossett said:
It has been proven that task killers do more harm than good
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auto killer isnt just a task killer...if you know what your doing you can mess around with memory settings and improve battery life/performance
but the average person generally uses it wrong and just picks a preset of extreme or something which hurts battery life
I am a "General Person" I put it on aggressive. Do you have any suggested settings?
I have a couple differnt cystoms..i use typically 65 75 90 for just use gaming I open up a lite more
Edit- change that normal use is 30 40 55 when gaming I open up to above mentioned
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Kevin Gossett said:
It has been proven that task killers do more harm than good
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I haven't seen anything proven, I've seen plenty of evidence as to why you don't need to kill tasks, but what exactly does it harm. And please don't reply with a link to an article I've already read... like I said there is nothing explaining exactly what the HARM is. (slowing down your phone is not harming it btw)
Harm in this case= slowing down phone, and hurting battery life.
I wouldn't call it helping.
Don't confuse harm with damage.
Agreed. No physical harm, but will slow down processes and run down battery life...
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WHEN i open her up, agreed drain battery life, but when you open her up what do you expect????? as far as slow down processes....guess im jsut lucky enough to use it right, cause it doesnt do ANYTHING but enhance EVERY SINGLE thing i do and make it lightning fast!
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Agreed. No physical harm, but will slow down processes and run down battery life...
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Ok... I personally notice the opposite when I use a task killer, but I can understand the theory of why you shouldn't use them. It just always seems like people come across like "that's BAD for your phone!" Ya know what I mean?
On the same note, why is it so important to get rid of the VZW bloat? Serious question... i had rooted a while ago and froze all of it, been unrooted for a while now and can't really notice any difference performance wise. Is it just so you don't have to look at it?
ziggy484 said:
Ok... I personally notice the opposite when I use a task killer, but I can understand the theory of why you shouldn't use them. It just always seems like people come across like "that's BAD for your phone!" Ya know what I mean?
On the same note, why is it so important to get rid of the VZW bloat? Serious question... i had rooted a while ago and froze all of it, been unrooted for a while now and can't really notice any difference performance wise. Is it just so you don't have to look at it?
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Gizmodo explains the reason. (about task killer)
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
here's the page with the list of apps you can safely remove:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
Kaze105 said:
Gizmodo explains the reason. (about task killer)
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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As I said, I've read all these articles, and btw theres nothing in the link about task killers, thanks anyway... how about some insight on the bloatware.
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unrooted, fully bloated (for now) Fascinate
Kaze105 said:
Gizmodo explains the reason. (about task killer)
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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That shows nothing of which im running? So in reference to think you are using, yes i 100% agree dont use Task Killers, they are a waste!!! Too bad im not using a "task Killer" so Download the Memory Parse tool, known as AutoKiller Memory
Lol. Okay, try this.
On boot, your phones OS pre loads into memory what it thinks you'll need. Read memory. Not running, not using cpu, and not slowing you down. This actually speeds things up for you.
Kind of like writing what you will need to see on a whiteboard.
When you run a traditional task killer, it erases all of that. This doesn't make you faster, or improve battery in any way. This isn't Windows.
Odds are, much of what was erased is going to be re written, which at that point should not have been necessary. In addition, it will slow you down when you finally do need the stuff that was erased.
If that doesn't make any sense, google it. I've never seen a dev argue for a task killer outside of being able to quickly kill bad apps.
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homescreen is sluggish

every so often when I return back to my homescreens and slide through them they get very laggy and sluggish anyway to fix it?
Do you have live wallpaper running that might not be optimized for Honeycomb, or are there lots of 3rd party widgets on your home screens.
If the above is the case, I’d suggest return your home screens to stock and apply a single widget at a time to see if any of them is causing the problem.
It also could be an app running at background causing the problem.
Sorry, i don't think there is easy fix for your problem.
are you on the latest honeycomb 3.1 build? that update was supposed to improve that problem. if not, i suggest root, flashing a tiamat kernel with OC'd GPU
turn off live wallpaper
get a task killer and kill unused programs every once in a while
reduce the number of widgets on your homescreens
Hope that helps!
I'd not recommend use any task killers. I don't believe there are any task killer designed for Honeycomb, or using 3rd party task killer will benefit Honeycomb.
if you want to kill an app or process, just goto running apps in settings.
Bigmille said:
I'd not recommend use any task killers. I don't believe there are any task killer designed for Honeycomb, or using 3rd party task killer will benefit Honeycomb.
if you want to kill an app or process, just goto running apps in settings.
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Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. Advanced Task Killer Free works just fine with honeycomb. I run it several times a day and it speeds the system up every time.
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Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. Advanced Task Killer Free works just fine with honeycomb. I run it several times a day and it speeds the system up every time.
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I can say with absolute authority that the people who designed android, and wrote the best practices documents for development have stated repeatedly that task killers do more harm than good.
If you have apps sucking so much memory or cpu in the background that they're impacting performance, uninstall those apps: they were developed by android noobs.
Don't rely on bad software as a crutch to run more bad software.
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Sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. Advanced Task Killer Free works just fine with honeycomb. I run it several times a day and it speeds the system up every time.
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Yeah mate, it's a pretty well known fact that task killers are a complete waste of time these days. They served a purpose in previous android versions (1.*) but now they really do more harm than good.
You say it speeds the system up? I'd suggest that's maybe only a placebo effect.
Bigmille said:
I'd not recommend use any task killers. I don't believe there are any task killer designed for Honeycomb, or using 3rd party task killer will benefit Honeycomb.
if you want to kill an app or process, just goto running apps in settings.
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Just taking the opportunity to also jump on you and say ''No! Bad post!"".
Inform yourself before spreading falsehoods please.
I've been using ADWex and I like it alot more, since it's been updated for honeycomb (looks really nice, never slows down, ever).
Hi all
Funny how even this long after the latest Android versions have been released there are still two camps in those that feel a Task Killer is absolutely necessary and those that don't.
Well i fall in the not necessary camp and have been using Android now for a little over a year and have never used one. The only real difference i see in my use is that i don't download and install every app and widget i can but just those i really need and use and like the previous poster i use ADW EX as my launcher and i just don't see any lag, freeze or stutters in anything i do. I tend to agree that those that have those issues as well as poor battery life have a badly written app that is most probably the cause. It amazes just how some obsess on how much free Ram they have at any given point without realising free Ram means nothing only when you don't have any free to run something is it even an issue and at that point the OS will close something to free it up.
But as always each of us is welcome to make thier own choices on thier own device but nothing would convince me i need a Task killer as i just don't.
Marc
Well, I may not be the most knowledgeable android user, but I get slowdowns all the time which are fixed by the task killer. Not sure of the "harm" that the other posters are suggesting. This is just my experience, take it with a grain of salt.
yea and your slowdowns would probably go away if u uninstall a badly coded app you have and stop letting it kill tasks on its own

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