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[Q] Can someone please explain the rooting on this phone to me?

I apologize if there is already a thread like this, but the search wasnt working.. I know what i can do with my phone once it is rooted, I am just interested in what happens tot he actual phone. I could be wrong, but once i root it isnt it always possible to tell that i rooted it even if i unroot it so therefor all warantees are voided? sorry if im being unclear, i cant think of another way to explain it haha.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
I apologize if there is already a thread like this, but the search wasnt working.. I know what i can do with my phone once it is rooted, I am just interested in what happens tot he actual phone. I could be wrong, but once i root it isnt it always possible to tell that i rooted it even if i unroot it so therefor all warantees are voided? sorry if im being unclear, i cant think of another way to explain it haha.
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The language on the "warranty void" screen says that unlocking the bootloader "may" void your warranty. On the Nexus One, HTC usually honored the warranty if the issue was with anything hardware related and could not have been the result of software tampering. Granted, that's them and this is Samsung.
Further, unless there is something hidden in the system files that counts the number of times you unlock the bootloader, you can always relock it prior to sending it in for repair with fastboot oem lock.
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The language on the "warranty void" screen says that unlocking the bootloader "may" void your warranty. On the Nexus One, HTC usually honored the warranty if the issue was with anything hardware related and could not have been the result of software tampering. Granted, that's them and this is Samsung.
Further, unless there is something hidden in the system files that counts the number of times you unlock the bootloader, you can always relock it prior to sending it in for repair with fastboot oem lock.
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So there is a way to kind of undo the root without them knowing? THanks a lot btw. I figured it was something like this.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
So there is a way to kind of undo the root without them knowing? THanks a lot btw. I figured it was something like this.
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unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things
jblade1000 said:
unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things
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Ahh i have no idea what unlocking the bootloader does then.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
Ahh i have no idea what unlocking the bootloader does then.
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In a nutshell, unlocking the bootloader means you will be allowed to flash non-Google/custom files to the system partition and more or less enables superuser access(aka root). Once thats done, then you "root" the device, push the Superuser.apk which will enable the rooted apps. Please check out the rooted section of my stickied FAQ for more detail on how to do this if you decide to. There are two great threads I link to.
Once you lock the bootloader, you lose access to the system partition and superuser I believe which effectively unroots it.
unremarked said:
In a nutshell, unlocking the bootloader means you will be allowed to flash non-Google/custom files to the system partition and more or less enables superuser access(aka root). Once thats done, then you "root" the device, push the Superuser.apk which will enable the rooted apps. Please check out the rooted section of my stickied FAQ for more detail on how to do this if you decide to. There are two great threads I link to.
Once you lock the bootloader, you lose access to the system partition and superuser I believe which effectively unroots it.
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So basically if you want to do any sort of mods, flash roms, etc. you need to unlock the bootload and root. Thanks a lot for explaining that. I think i understand it now, but just to clarify, if i unlock the bootloader and root will i be able to get the phone back to stock without samsung knowing that i rooted/unlock the bootloader?
The K-Zoo Kid said:
So basically if you want to do any sort of mods, flash roms, etc. you need to unlock the bootload and root. Thanks a lot for explaining that. I think i understand it now, but just to clarify, if i unlock the bootloader and root will i be able to get the phone back to stock without samsung knowing that i rooted/unlock the bootloader?
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Yes, to mod/flash roms you need to unlock the bootloader. It's possible that sometime down the road someone may develop a method of gaining root access on the phone without touching it, but it's unlikely given the fact that we can both unlock and lock the bootloader very easily.
Right now, the answer is... more or less. If you make a NAND backup in Clockwork Recovery/Rom manager of your stock ROM, you can restore back to that, fastboot flash the closest thing we have currently to the stock recovery(check development section for this), then relock the bootloader. This will give the phone all appearances of being stock. Unless Samsung has something deep in the system files tracking the number of times you've unlocked/locked(which I doubt, since I'm sure such a system would have been found by now), you should be good to go.
Most people who have returned the phone to Best Buy have noted that they don't even power on the device or check to see if the bootloader is unlocked or if there's a custom recovery on there. But your mileage may vary.
Interesting stuff. I was under the impression that once clockworkmod is flashed there is no way to remove it at this time.
Reading this thread I'm guessing and hoping this is not the case?
I had clockworkmod installed but used rom manager to flash the 2.3.1 update and i've now got the stock bootloader back. I guess the ota update does the same? It would seem that getting back to stock is pretty easy.
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xspyda said:
Interesting stuff. I was under the impression that once clockworkmod is flashed there is no way to remove it at this time.
Reading this thread I'm guessing and hoping this is not the case?
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My apologies, I posted that before I came to the same understanding regarding the stock recovery.
Like the poster above me mentioned there is a NAND backup of stock 2.3.1 you could restore to which has the stock recovery.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Thanks for the clarification. I'll do some more reading in the dev section
Thanks a lot, this really helped me out a lot. I will proceed to rooting
So, just want to make sure I have this straight... You unlock the bootloader, load custom recovery, SU, and now phone is rooted. If you lock the bootloader, you lose root?
For me, I'm not big on custom roms since I just don't have time to keep things up to date or participate in the bug process, but I do like to maintain backups with Titanium (my primary reason for rooting). So by locking the bootloader down I will not be able to use Titanium. Furthermore, unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. So is there a reason one would not want to keep the bootloader unlocked? Have I completely misunderstood the system?

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After unlocking bootloader message is coming your device is corrupt and can't be checked for corruption but after some time I have reverted to stock and relocked OEM using Nexus Root toolkit but even then warning is coming any way to remove this..
Mohit M'S said:
After unlocking bootloader message is coming your device is corrupt and can't be checked for corruption but after some time I have reverted to stock and relocked OEM using Nexus Root toolkit but even then warning is coming any way to remove this..
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It is highly unlikely that after relocking that message would come. Actually, that message could be ignored if your ROM boots fine.
What does the bootloader display about locked status?
DJBhardwaj said:
It is highly unlikely that after relocking that message would come. Actually, that message could be ignored if your ROM boots fine.
What does the bootloader display about locked status?
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Your device is corrupt and can't be checked for corruption
Mohit M'S said:
Your device is corrupt and can't be checked for corruption
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Not that. I meant in the bootloader mode itself. Does it display "Device is Locked" or "Device is Unlocked"?
DJBhardwaj said:
Not that. I meant in the bootloader mode itself. Does it display "Device is Locked" or "Device is Unlocked"?
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Device is locked
Mohit M'S said:
Device is locked
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Unlock it again. Go from scratch and flash the factory image using Heisenberg's guide in the General section. After flashing that, see if it solves the issue.
Using toolkits could be buggy at times. I am not against them, but it's good to flash manually, so that you can keep a track on things.
DJBhardwaj said:
Unlock it again. Go from scratch and flash the factory image using Heisenberg's guide in the General section. After flashing that, see if it solves the issue.
Using toolkits could be buggy at times. I am not against them, but it's good to flash manually, so that you can keep a track on things.
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can I flash without unlocking bootloader because after unlocking bootloader there r some heat issues
Mohit M'S said:
can I flash without unlocking bootloader because after unlocking bootloader there r some heat issues
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No you can't flash anything with a locked bootloader. Plus, it's entirely impossible for an unlocked bootloader to cause heat issues, that's either placebo or a coincidence (another cause).
PS. The title of this thread is useless, you should describe your issue in the title, not create text faces.
Heisenberg said:
No you can't flash anything with a locked bootloader. Plus, it's entirely impossible for an unlocked bootloader to cause heat issues, that's either placebo or a coincidence (another cause).
PS. The title of this thread is useless, you should describe your issue in the title, not create text faces.
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OK OK but after unlocking it there is any way to relock it and remove this error message
Mohit M'S said:
OK OK but after unlocking it there is any way to relock it and remove this error message
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Yes, of course. Infact that's the reason I asked you about the lock status on the first place. Stock ROM with locked bootloader shouldn't give this warning. It should make it go away.
That is why, I asked you to perform a flash manually. Please refer to Heisenberg's guide for the steps.
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Mohit M'S said:
OK OK but after unlocking it there is any way to relock it and remove this error message
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Yes, after locking the bootloader the message should disappear. But, I'd strongly recommend leaving it unlocked and just dealing with the message. If an OTA ever fails or something else goes wrong you'll need fastboot to flash the factory images to recover your device, you'll be forced to unlock the bootloader, this will wipe the device and you'll lose all of your data because there'll be no way to back it up first.
DJBhardwaj said:
Not that. I meant in the bootloader mode itself. Does it display "Device is Locked" or "Device is Unlocked"?
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Sorry message is Device can't be trusted or it may not work properly
Mohit M'S said:
Sorry message is Device can't be trusted or it may not work properly
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Did you reflash manually?
DJBhardwaj said:
Did you reflash manually?
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Nope gonna do this by today or tomorrow
Mohit M'S said:
Nope gonna do this by today or tomorrow
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Sure and then let us know. And keep the bootloader unlocked, it will help you to deal with a few issues (if any), in the future, as already mentioned above by Heisenberg.
-_____- why do people still use toolkits? Try getting use to Adb; it would save you a lot of time dealing with errors.
Mohit M'S said:
Sorry message is Device can't be trusted or it may not work properly
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There is only one way to get rid of the message, and you have already been told.
The solution is to relock your bootloader. Nothing else will fix it.
uicnren said:
There is only one way to get rid of the message, and you have already been told.
The solution is to relock your bootloader. Nothing else will fix it.
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First when I unlocked it message is coming your device is corrupt and can't be checked for corruption but after relocking it message is coming device can't be trusted or may not work properly and it is happening it is not working properly no system update for me even Android one got update and all my friends got update who r using it..??
Ruined my phone
Mohit M'S said:
First when I unlocked it message is coming your device is corrupt and can't be checked for corruption but after relocking it message is coming device can't be trusted or may not work properly and it is happening it is not working properly no system update for me even Android one got update and all my friends got update who r using it..
Ruined my phone
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It didnt ruin your phone.
Simply reflash the stock images and start over from scratch.
If you root or modify the phone in any way from stock, you will get those messages. They are simply that, messages. They do not affect your phone negatively. Other things you have done (like root, or installing apps from unknown sources) WILL affect the phone.
Flash stock images, relock bootloader and it will be brand new, like the day you got it.
If you dont wish to go back to stock, but want to flash OTA updates when they come out (and you are already rooted) look into using FlashFire.
uicnren said:
It didnt ruin your phone.
Simply reflash the stock images and start over from scratch.
If you root or modify the phone in any way from stock, you will get those messages. They are simply that, messages. They do not affect your phone negatively. Other things you have done (like root, or installing apps from unknown sources) WILL affect the phone.
Flash stock images, relock bootloader and it will be brand new, like the day you got it.
If you dont wish to go back to stock, but want to flash OTA updates when they come out (and you are already rooted) look into using FlashFire.
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U didn't understand what I said I have already reverted my to stock ROM and relocked the bootloader but even then message is coming device can't be trusted or may not work properly and I'm not even getting any updates not even April update and all friends got this I'm currently pure stock
Problem are:-
Message is still there
Updates r not coming

Remove "Unlocked Bootloader warning" message

It is valid for Oneplus 5 also
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/help/remove-unlocked-bootloader-warning-t3841712
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You argued in the topic that you are mentioning, why do you make a new topic?
Remove unlocked bootloader message, by locking the bootloader
yusuo said:
Remove unlocked bootloader message, by locking the bootloader
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Go lock your bootloader with a custom ROM installed, I beg you. And please don't forget to let me know how that turns out for you and your device.
This was posted in 6T too and pissed off a lot there as well.
Mods CLOSE THIS THREAD!
[GUIDE] Remove unlocked bootloader warning
^- We are talking about this annoying warning Someone asked for that on this forum, someone told this is impossible - so I did that. It replaces aboot with the one that doesn't display this annoying warning, enjoy :) Download flashable zip...
forum.xda-developers.com
could this work for op6
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get rid of <!> The bootloader is unlocked??

Hey, is it possible to get rid of this message when booting?
Would be nice
Sure, just re-lock your bootloader. Presto. ?
thedrizzle said:
Sure, just re-lock your bootloader. Presto. ?
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Probably a stupid question but im rooted, will it still boot up?
Macblack1991 said:
Probably a stupid question but im rooted, will it still boot up?
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No, it's likely that your device will brick. Please don't do so
veatesia said:
No, it's likely that your device will brick. Please don't do so
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Okay thanks for the reply
Dead end thread, there have been many many many many many posts about that since oneplus introduced that a couple of years ago
THERE IS NO WAY TO GET RID OF THAT WHILE UNLOCKED
period
and there's a thread about it here. been following this from the start and apparently it's next to impossible to achieve.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/development/wip-dissecting-bootloader-aka-rid-t3878470
veatesia said:
No, it's likely that your device will brick. Please don't do so
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I have experience doing that. Yes your device will definitely get BRICKED!!! Just ignore that boot screen, do not attempt to do anything to get rid of it. It just takes time to accept it. I use to think about getting rid of it as well when i was using my Oneplus 3. I re-locked the bootloader and got bricked. I couldn't do anything and had to send it back to Oneplus to fix it.
There have been other devices where they are able to replace the image with another, such as a blank image to hide the warning. I've also seen people load custom ROMs signed with their own signature so they can relock their bootloader after loading a custom OS. So there are things that can be done, but it's not something to just play around with, as mentioned, mess it up, and you'll brick something.
Thanks for the replies. Well I guess its just how it is, nit a big issue, was just wondering because most videos of custom roms I saw this part was cut out lol.

Mi Unlock delete device data when applying for unlock in Mi Account?

It's basically what the title say, I know that Mi Unlock delete all the device data when unlocking the bootloader, but If you are locked and ask for authorization, Mi Unlock will delete the device data in any case or only when unlocking the bootloader?
I know it's probably a stupid question, but I didn't find the answer on the internet.
Clean all and lock
No, it doesn't, it does it only when the bootloader unlocks, like in any android.
Eddywarez said:
No, it doesn't, it does it only when the bootloader unlocks, like in any android.
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Miflashtool have only the option with cleaning...
Pictures say more then words
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Miflashtool have only the option with cleaning...
Pictures say more then words
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But what you answered wasn't what OP asked.
By the way, applying for unlocking the device won't erase any data. The only time your data gets erased is when you succesfully unlock your bootloader. @CpDavid1408

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