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[Q] Flashing Clockworkmod on MAGLDR 1.13

Hi All,
I've been looking for an answer and have not found one yet.
I have an existing NAND build (MDJ cyanogen 7) of android that I flashed via magldr 1.11. I know I can update magldr to 1.13 safely without messing deleting the the nand rom i have already. But if I want to install Clockworkmod 1.3 onto the nand will I lose my existing rom need to reflash my rom again or does magldr know to flash clockworkmod onto another area of nand that wont overwrite my existing rom?
also with clockworkmod it says:
Download recovery with partition size for the type of rom you plan on using, see guide below if unsure.
it says to use the 150MB partition just wanted to see if anyone else using mdj's cyanogen 7 is using the same thing?
Your help is greatly appreciated

ascrackoo1 said:
Hi All,
I've been looking for an answer and have not found one yet.
I have an existing NAND build (MDJ cyanogen 7) of android that I flashed via magldr 1.11. I know I can update magldr to 1.13 safely without messing deleting the the nand rom i have already. But if I want to install Clockworkmod 1.3 onto the nand will I lose my existing rom need to reflash my rom again or does magldr know to flash clockworkmod onto another area of nand that wont overwrite my existing rom?
also with clockworkmod it says:
Download recovery with partition size for the type of rom you plan on using, see guide below if unsure.
it says to use the 150MB partition just wanted to see if anyone else using mdj's cyanogen 7 is using the same thing?
Your help is greatly appreciated
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Yes you will lose your current rom, so do a cwm backup first. After flashing the partition for cwm, you will get a kernel error on first boot, so boot into AD Recovery and restore the boot, system and data backups and all is back to normal. As for the partition size, use the same size as you did for the sd version. The guide suggests a 400mb partition for an unsquashed desire hd build, but I used the 250mb partition on my current rom and all is perfect.
PS! Please don't post questions in the ROM Dev section, there's a reason why there is a Q&A section.

ClydeB1 said:
PS! Please don't post questions in the ROM Dev section, there's a reason why there is a Q&A section.
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+1
Its so frustrating, why on earth would anybody post a question topic in here when we have dedicated Q&A forum??
It should be obvious to anybody that this is a "dev" forum for posting developments not for asking questions.

Since the rom was originally flashed via DAF, will CWM still allow me to do a backup?
Was hoping for a guide, it's so confusing.

No, from what I understand you don't have CWM installed yet, so you can't use it now. Use titanium backup (market), and then flash cwm so you can use it in the future.

ascrackoo1 said:
Since the rom was originally flashed via DAF, will CWM still allow me to do a backup?
Was hoping for a guide, it's so confusing.
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It seems confusing at first but it is not really that difficult.
StephanV said:
No, from what I understand you don't have CWM installed yet, so you can't use it now. Use titanium backup (market), and then flash cwm so you can use it in the future.
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Correct, on first flash of cwm it will erase all data/roms etc on NAND. You will not be able to backup the rom if it was initially flashed via daf. As StephanV says, use Titanium Backup or MyBackup Root to back up your data/apps etc and you can restore them after.
Once you have cwm installed and have flashed a new rom and set it all up, then you can do a cwm backup.

So if i use cwm then I can only flash zip based roms from that point on? I cant use the daf ones anymore then.

You can still use daf, but each time you run a daf file it will remove the cwm recovery partition and you will need to reflash it to use cwm again.

I'm finding that if i flash cwm ontop of a daf rom the rom becomes unbootable. and the only way to get it to work again is use a cwm version of the rom.

ascrackoo1 said:
So if i use cwm then I can only flash zip based roms from that point on? I cant use the daf ones anymore then.
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i'm not sure about the rom you are using but i was able to back up a few different roms with cwm which i installed using daf. this is what i did:
1. create a folder on sdcard name "cwm" (you can name it whatever you want). i actually have a folder for each clockwork recovery version.
2. put the zImage and initrd.gz for cwm (version 1.0,1.1,or 1.2) in the folder you just created. (do not flash anything at this point)
3. boot into magldr and go to services, boot settings, ad sd dir and select the directory you just created
4. now in magldr menu boot ad sd, and you should hopefully boot into clockwork
5. go to backup and restore and backup your rom. if you try cwm 1.2 and it doesn't work try 1.0 to back it up, you can then update to 1.2 again and it will still restore just fine.
6. before restoring your rom, install cwm1.3 and choose a partition size bigger than the size of the system.img of the rom that you backed up. clockwork backs up your rom in your sdcard->clockworkmod->backup. it creates a folder with the timestamp.
7. now you can follow the steps from the clockworkmod thread to load cwm1.3 and restore from there.

ClydeB1 said:
You can still use daf, but each time you run a daf file it will remove the cwm recovery partition and you will need to reflash it to use cwm again.
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ascrackoo1 said:
I'm finding that if i flash cwm ontop of a daf rom the rom becomes unbootable. and the only way to get it to work again is use a cwm version of the rom.
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dont bother 'installing' clockwork, just put the two files on your sd card, then go into your MDJcyanogen rom folder on the PC, open (in notepad) flash.cfg and it will look something like
boot ya|boot|ro filesize+1M boot.img
misc ya 1M
recovery ya|ro 3M
cache ya 3M
system ya filesize system.img
userdata ya|asize|hr allsize
the partitions 'recovery' and 'misc' will allow cwm to work, they arent needed for this rom, they are only there for compatibility however if you plan on flashing to a different rom using sd card/cwm, (rather than simply using cwm to do backups of MDJcyanogen) you will want to edit the
system ya filesize system.img
and maybe set it to one of teh recommended cwm sizes, example
system ya 150M
this is because the original line
system ya filesize system.img
will set a system partition of the same size as the MDJcyanogen system.img, (about 130meg) but if your next rom has a bigger system.img, when you try load it from cwm it wont fit, so wont work. by setting it to 150 (or whatever you want) you are allowing for different size system.img in various roms.
Whenever you flash a nand rom, so long as you edit the flash.cfg and make sure those two partitions, misc and recovery (and maybe cache too, i do) are there, then cwm will work.

how do u get 1.13

sbgleeko said:
how do u get 1.13
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Go to nand development and its in the thread called (quite cunningly) "magldr 1.13 released "

[Q] Backup HD2 Nandroid?

What is the best way to back up Nandriod on an HTC HD2? I have an aversion to trying most of the methods because they seem to all be specifically tailored to Native Android phones.

I take it that you have MAGLDR and Clockwork installed... why not just backup using the AD Recovery option in MAGLDR 1.13 and then choosing 'Backup and Restore'. Then just follow your nose.

So to clarify;
ClockworkRecoveryMod isn't its own ROM?
Nor will it override my current rom if I installed the rom before CRM?

You need to wipe your current rom to install clockwork. Flash clockwork from Magldr "usb flasher" then access clockwork with "boot ad recovery" option on magldr. Once in clockwork, install roms in zip format from SD card. You can also do full backup/restore and partition SD for sd-ext using clockwork.
Sent from my HTC HD2

polo735 said:
You need to wipe your current rom to install clockwork. Flash clockwork from Magldr "usb flasher" then access clockwork with "boot ad recovery" option on magldr. Once in clockwork, install roms in zip format from SD card. You can also do full backup/restore and partition SD for sd-ext using clockwork.
Sent from my HTC HD2
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So How do/can I save my ROM before installing clockwork?

omAcronAlpha said:
So How do/can I save my ROM before installing clockwork?
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I am also interested to know how to do it

Ironically the program in Clockwork is actually called 'Nandroid Backup' lol. It's not got to doo with HD2 and NAND Android though.
Basically you can't flash CWM and keep your current DFT ROM. It'll erase it as when you have clockwork you don't install ROM's by DFT flasher, you do it by .zip files on the phone.
Basically if you want to backup your settings and apps use a program like 'Titanium Backup' or 'MyBackup Pro'. Mybackup is my personal favourite, but it's up to you. It saves to your SD card so you can keep the file stored on your PC incase you need to back up.

Right Scellyyy and I also suggest to backup the SD card on the PC because for some ROM's you need to format or partition the SD card.
So if the Originial ROM is backuped you are now able to restore all the data.
1. Backup with Titanium or so
2. Copy whole SD card to PC
3. Be sure to have the actual installed ROM
4. Install Mag, Cwm and the NAND ROM of your choice with the certain tutorial for that
5. If you don't like it: Just flash the old ROM
6. Copy SD data back
7. Restore backup and your done
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk

nobnut said:
I take it that you have MAGLDR and Clockwork installed... why not just backup using the AD Recovery option in MAGLDR 1.13 and then choosing 'Backup and Restore'. Then just follow your nose.
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When i choose "AD Recovery" i get the message:"No boot source"

you have to flash clockworkmod recovery aka cwm. it's basically a separated partition for nandroid.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

omAcronAlpha said:
So How do/can I save my ROM before installing clockwork?
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try "mybackuppro" which is available in the market.u can backup ur data,but u cant backup ur current rom.u hav to use cwm dor that !
Sent from my HTC HD 2 powered by HYPERDROID

HD2 problem with flashing CWM

Hi.
My friend has HTC HD2 and we wanted to flash CWM and new nadroid.
The phone has already HSPL 2.08, MAGLDR 1.13 and radio 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14.
In the phone there is android (Android 2.2, kernel 2.6.32.15 dirty cotulla, software number 2.29.405.5).
phone (in info): HTC Desire A8181
I tried flash CWM 150MB but:
1.) DAF doesn't work for me (error init USB). So I tried andr_install.exe, it worked and phone was connected
, but then it show message:
PARTITION LAYOUT NEW
Do you want to preserve data?
Press POWER to save it
Press GREEN to clear it
Press VOLDOWN to abandon flashing
I tried abandon flashing and I get error (something like can't clear partition)
We want to flash HyperDroid CM7.
So My question is, did I make something wrong?
Must I make repartition of MAGLDR befor flash CWM or CM?
I would to try HD2 NAND toolkit, but I looked, that it use also DAF.

I would try a full wipe (task29) in HD2 Toolkit.

But if it not work, we will have cleaned phone

Can I do this?
Repartition of MAGLDR to 150MB, catch 44MB.
Run CWM from SD card.
Install CWM from SD card to NAND (recovery_5.0.2.6_leo_CWR.zip)?

When you repartition, it installs cwm too.
Use the nand toolkit, put phone into magldr USB flasher, in nand toolkit select tye size you want, clik 'reaprtition' bottom left, hey presto partitions created and cwm installed. If you get connection errors click download drivers. (Alternate means of getting the correct drivers are - install 'myphoneexplorer ((also good cos it syncs with outlook)) or install the android sdk (Google for android USB drivers).
The reason you got the errors trying to flash cwm in post 1 is because the old method used to install your original rom doesn't create a recovery partition, so there's nowhere for cwm to install.

OK I will try it
I have already google drivers (from ADB)+HTC drivers (I have EVO 3D)+I installed windows mobile device center.
But andr_install.exe worked, so I hope that toolkit will work too
Thank you!

Android reflashed!
It worked really well, thank you!

Doesn't reboot into recovery

I installed ROM manager, then tried to back up my HD. It requested I install clockworkmod, but the installation hung. The second attempt was successful, but I cannot reboot into recovery mode. It just reboots normally. If I power on holding the power button it goes into the MAGLDR menu. If I select AD Recover it says:
ANDROID LOAD RAW
ERROR: ERROR: Cannot read ramdisk image
How can I get clockworkmod working without wiping my device?
Thanks

You corrupted the recovery partition by using rom manager,, it doesn't work with magldr.
Find the clockwork thread with "yes/no " in the title, from there get both the SD version and the cwm version ,,put the cwm.zip onto the SD, and also unzip the SD version to the root of SD, then into magldr, "boot ad SD" to start the SD version of cwm then use that to "flash zip from SD"(just like a normal flash) and select the cwm.zip. this will reflash the ad recovery nand partition without affecting the rom

samsamuel said:
You corrupted the recovery partition by using rom manager,, it doesn't work with magldr.
Find the clockwork thread with "yes/no " in the title, from there get both the SD version and the cwm version ,,put the cwm.zip onto the SD, and also unzip the SD version to the root of SD, then into magldr, "boot ad SD" to start the SD version of cwm then use that to "flash zip from SD"(just like a normal flash) and select the cwm.zip. this will reflash the ad recovery nand partition without affecting the rom
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Thanks, I understand. Is it not worth installing ROM manager at al then if I'm running magldr?
I originally installed/paritioned using the DAF.exe version of CLK 150MB 44MB cache. The ROM only requires 150MB 2MB cache. Am I loosing out on space with this size cache. Partitioning using HD2 Toolkit doesn't work on my device. magldr or clk doesn't boot properly afterwards.
Thanks

The cache is only used by cwm, so yea, 44 is way plenty. I normally give it 5.

samsamuel said:
The cache is only used by cwm, so yea, 44 is way plenty. I normally give it 5.
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Just found out I can change flash.cfg for DAF.exe. That helps a lot! All working and backed up now. So I'll go for a repartition. The helps greatly appreciated!

[Q] **** Solved **** Cannot install Nand Roms....

:victory:****** Solved *******
Hi, thank you for all of your help and assistance.
It was all down to selecting the correct partitions (and me getting over enthusiastic in flashing roms and not reading FULLY on how and what partitions are required)
I have used HD2 Nand toolkit, and partitioned MAGLDR, then partitioned SD card within Clockworkmod.
Thank you all again for pointing me in the right direction...
Good Evening All,
I am sorry if this has been covered. I have searched the forums but cannot find an answer.
I have read all the FAQ and How-to's.
I am not an exact newbie, I have owned a HD2 before (about 2 years ago) and could install all sorts of different roms (including NAND)
I have Installed my Radio 2.15.50.14
I have installed HARD SPL 2.08
I have Installed MAGdlr 1.13
I ahve installed clockwork mod recovery 1.3 with 400M
Copied rom to root of SD Nexus HD2 jellybean v1.2 [dataonext]
and I have installed Nexus HD2 jellybean v1.2 [dataonext]
this installed fine,
I then decided to try another,
I downloaded QSEA_JB-MUSIC EDITION_V1 and placed on root of SD,
I booted into Magldr, then into clockwork mod
from here i wipe data, and factory reset,
wipe cache partition
and wiped delvic cache.
Then i install zip from sd card QSEA_JB-MUSIC EDITION_V1
when this is done,
It asks me to reboot,
Then it stays on the boot screen, and the rom does not load.....
I can restore the back up from the original rom install. but whatever rom I install (from Nand rom downloads) none of them install...
Please help...
Matt

matt_tee said:
Good Evening All,
I am sorry if this has been covered. I have searched the forums but cannot find an answer.
I have read all the FAQ and How-to's.
I am not an exact newbie, I have owned a HD2 before (about 2 years ago) and could install all sorts of different roms (including NAND)
I have Installed my Radio 2.15.50.14
I have installed HARD SPL 2.08
I have Installed MAGdlr 1.13
I ahve installed clockwork mod recovery 1.3 with 400M
Copied rom to root of SD Nexus HD2 jellybean v1.2 [dataonext]
and I have installed Nexus HD2 jellybean v1.2 [dataonext]
this installed fine,
I then decided to try another,
I downloaded QSEA_JB-MUSIC EDITION_V1 and placed on root of SD,
I booted into Magldr, then into clockwork mod
from here i wipe data, and factory reset,
wipe cache partition
and wiped delvic cache.
Then i install zip from sd card QSEA_JB-MUSIC EDITION_V1
when this is done,
It asks me to reboot,
Then it stays on the boot screen, and the rom does not load.....
I can restore the back up from the original rom install. but whatever rom I install (from Nand rom downloads) none of them install...
Please help...
Matt
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1-Why? Use the HD2 NAND Toolkit to partition your system according to the developer.
2- Never reboot directly from the "reboot now" option of amarullz's installer. Instead, uncheck the "reboot now" option, click finish and reboot manually from CWM.
(The reboot option somehow makes your rom not boot, at least that happens to me every time)

Marvlesz said:
1-Why? Use the HD2 NAND Toolkit to partition your system according to the developer.
2- Never reboot directly from the "reboot now" option of amarullz's installer. Instead, uncheck the "reboot now" option, click finish and reboot manually from CWM.
(The reboot option somehow makes your rom not boot, at least that happens to me every time)
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Thanks,
I will give it a go!
Have already downloaded toolkit, and just watching the video on how to use...
Matt:fingers-crossed:

So, do I just use Magldr to partition and don't install CWM?
I tried to re-partition with CWM, but lost magldr.....
What am I doing wrong?
Still cannot install NAND rom.
Going to do Task 29 again, where from there??
Thanks for your help and patience...

try the links below, it might help

matt_tee said:
So, do I just use Magldr to partition and don't install CWM?
I tried to re-partition with CWM, but lost magldr.....
What am I doing wrong?
Still cannot install NAND rom.
Going to do Task 29 again, where from there??
Thanks for your help and patience...
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I don't use magldr, so I am not sure.
But I think you have to "MAGLDR recovery update" first, and then after it finishes you have to "magdlr repartition". Im not sure though.

How do I just install clockwork mod? Without using Magldr?
If I Task29 first,
What's my next step.....?

After Task29 (don't do task29 again) you have to do the following: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25781675#post25781675 until you see the "recovery" .. from there, dont continue to flashing wp7, just put your rom on your sd and flash it from recovery. (don't forget to thank the the one who made the thread/guide)
Don't forget to NOT use 300mb, but use the one written on your rom's thread.

matt_tee said:
How do I just install clockwork mod? Without using Magldr?
If I Task29 first,
What's my next step.....?
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You can't have CWM without MAGLDR. If you've flashed CWM you shouldn't have lost MAGLDR at all, so I don't know what you did wrong. Task 29s are also almost always useless and unnecessary, if a guide says 'task 29' as the first step then usually you can just skip that part. I find that the best guide is the one in my sig, try it out.