What do you want for now? Almost working gingerbread or badly working ICS?
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What do you want for now? Almost working gingerbread or badly working ICS?
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we would like a dose of CM9
Ics, just for play
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Ics! Ics! Ics!
GB just. Too many things are missing to make agood working Ics ROM
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a bad working ICS will just give us many problems like bricked phones etc. as a present..
I think we're all are able to be patient and wait for a good working beta or stuff like this..
But in fact.. I'm getting impacient to...
That is not true mate. Check out progress report thread in android development forum, you will see major phones have pretty good ICS developed.
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That is not true mate. Check out progress report thread in android development forum, you will see major phones have pretty good ICS developed.
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Yes ofc without microphone or speakers working at all. Because there is the phone kernel missing for the ics. So they are trying to implant a GB version on ics, correct me if I am wrong have 0 knowledge about the thema, that's why no thanks I will wait, if you can't wait why didn't you bought the nexus??
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One note, a phone without mic is useless.
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lycan_codex said:
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Ding!
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Microphone is working great to be honest.
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Microphone is working great to be honest.
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Since when? did they fix the problem and now it works on Ics???? Last I checked they where trying to make voodoo to fix this. Sorry if I am mistaken with this and got people confused.
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Since when? did they fix the problem and now it works on Ics???? Last I checked they where trying to make voodoo to fix this. Sorry if I am mistaken with this and got people confused.
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microphone works perfectly fine here. had nothing but crystal clear call quality from the start according to everyone ive spoken to.
maybe theres gunk in your mic hole or its being obstructed?
Eh, they're talking about the ICS build. Currently it's private, so uh... wat?
Why not both?
I'd love to play with a half working ICS rom for now.
I really don't care about things like bluetooth etc.
Having a working screen / camera / data is nice though
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Why not both?
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Melchior as I have read he does developing his custom roms, sorry netchip but I don't remember which it was :-( . So he asked, to get a wrought thought what people want because the needs are always different the wants can be made the needs can be satisfied ;-) GL HF netchip with what you decide as I said with a kernel working perfectly a waste of time to make Ics, ok it would be imba to get the start with it but it would be to much dunno about your free time and what you like to do easy s..t or hard core, I can't make it, I will try moaaaaaaaaar, I made itttttttttttt yessssssssssssss.
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what ever u can conjure up, we'll be grateful!
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I'd love to play with a half working ICS rom for now.
I really don't care about things like bluetooth etc.
Having a working screen / camera / data is nice though
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Mauimauer is in teamhacksung.
No working data, call, wifi, camera, nothing.
Make two version is too much hassle.
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well if it's just one or the other, then go ics cos if u go cm7, as soon as ics comes around.. your work will be wasted and no one would want to use it... yes we are version whores
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We've been getting so many GB roms this month! It's amazing, don't you think we're close to a fully functional ROM thats GB with good battery life, GPS (im kind of thinking i shouldn't have put GPS)
but i think its right around the corner! what about you guys?
I mean if you look at our Dev section on Page 1, there probably about 5+ GB roms...
We'll have it soon!
Won't try any of those without GPS
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We've been getting so many GB roms this month! It's amazing, don't you think we're close to a fully functional ROM thats GB with good battery life, GPS (im kind of thinking i shouldn't have put GPS)
but i think its right around the corner! what about you guys?
I mean if you look at our Dev section on Page 1, there probably about 5+ GB roms...
We'll have it soon!
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It's in the works. Cmenard has fixed rainbows (proof). (He's a frackin' beast). White has all his magic done on it. I'm the only failure! I can't get the damn GPS to work.
So yeah, that's all we're missing. Vibrant uses a different GPS binary to communicate with the hardware versus other phones like I9K and Cappy (we're the ONLY phone that does this, BS right?). I've been working with cmenard to even build a custom kernel to call that binary just like the 2.2 ROMs and still nothing. I think I'm either missing something extremely simple, or it's not possible. Eugene is smarter than me so hopefully he figured something out.
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It's in the works. Cmenard has fixed rainbows (proof). (He's a frackin' beast). White has all his magic done on it. I'm the only failure! I can't get the damn GPS to work.
So yeah, that's all we're missing. Vibrant uses a different GPS binary to communicate with the hardware versus other phones like I9K and Cappy (we're the ONLY phone that does this, BS right?). I've been working with cmenard to even build a custom kernel to call that binary just like the 2.2 ROMs and still nothing. I think I'm either missing something extremely simple, or it's not possible. Eugene is smarter than me so hopefully he figured something out.
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THATS GREAT NEWS!!!!!
By any chance, would you guys release the ROM, with all the magic done to it, even if GPS wasn't fixed? For people like me, i'm a teenager, why the hell would i need GPS? lol.
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THATS GREAT NEWS!!!!!
By any chance, would you guys release the ROM, with all the magic done to it, even if GPS wasn't fixed? For people like me, i'm a teenager, why the hell would i need GPS? lol.
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Yes.
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THATS GREAT NEWS!!!!!
By any chance, would you guys release the ROM, with all the magic done to it, even if GPS wasn't fixed? For people like me, i'm a teenager, why the hell would i need GPS? lol.
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I second this, I don't give a flying **** about the GPS as long as Arabic is supported
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is that a hint, that it'll be released this week? ?
If you need a BETA tester, even if its NOT in Beta, just shoot me a PM i just wanna get on a good ROM, haven't gone on a good one in a while.
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is that a hint, that it'll be released this week? ?
If you need a BETA tester, even if its NOT in Beta, just shoot me a PM i just wanna get on a good ROM, haven't gone on a good one in a while.
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Since I know you're running Trigger, and you just said you haven't run a good one in a while, I'll make sure it's not ever ever ever released
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Since I know you're running Trigger, and you just said you haven't run a good one in a while, I'll make sure it's not ever ever ever released
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HEY! Trigger is my Fav. rom not even kidding.
I was just on the RC1 thing for GB yesterday for a day, missed the trigger notif. bar and the other speed and stability bcz i always got FC's and Freezes.
I tried Jellette's PRivate stock, but still missed Trigger.
I came back to Trigger.
Trigger's the only rom on my External SD, incase anything happens to my phone, i still have TRIGGER!
release it now lol.
P.S. everytime i read your posts, then look at your Avatar, it always makes me think ur pissed off lol
Good save.
WOOHOO! A GB ROM IS ON THE WAY!
Now all we need is for you to release it.... *sits down patiently and stares at you*
Has anyone tried building a 2.6.32 based GB kernel? Just a thought =P
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Eugene said he got gps working what a beast
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Eugene said he got gps working what a beast
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isn't that all we needed???
We have a full GB rom!!! WOOOO!
release it!
wow, he bought another vibrant, just for gb?
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Eugene said he got gps working what a beast
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How is the battery life on the GB roms? Is it pretty crappy since we don't have a source for our phone?
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Eugene said he got gps working what a beast
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Where did you here that?
Abu-7abash said:
Where did you here that?
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Read through that one thread about the alleged working GPS Eugene said he had it working
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Eugene said he got gps working what a beast
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Quote? cuz I didn't hear that from him
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Read through that one thread about the alleged working GPS Eugene said he had it working
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Thought so, well, I read that thread before and in there Eugene didn't EVER say that he had a working GPS. What he said was that fixing it wasn't that hard and mentioned the files.
But I guess people love to stare on a bright side that doesn't even exist.
ummm....ill let this tweet speak for itself....i don't even care about my fp scanner being broken anymore! https://twitter.com/#!/jface21/status/137210465221742592
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ummm....ill let this tweet speak for itself....i don't even care about my fp scanner being broken anymore! https://twitter.com/#!/jface21/status/137210465221742592
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Oh..my...God....
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Oh..my...God....
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thats what I'm saying....
That is some extremely nice news. Thanks for finding it!
Can't wait to try!
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Awesome this is just what our community needed
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Awesome this is just what our community needed
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I've tried so hard to make my phone an MIUI look alike. I NEED THIS.
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Im not going to lie, Im a little skeptical. Is this really true??? Seems almost to good to be true considering how dead development is. . If it is Ill be soooo excited. MIUI = Greatness
Awesome. If this turns out to be legit I look forward to seeing what's behind all the praise MIUI gets.
At the very least, it'll be a good holdover until CM9.
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Awesome. If this turns out to be legit I look forward to seeing what's behind all the praise MIUI gets.
At the very least, it'll be a good holdover until CM9.
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almost positive its legit..about a week ago he tweeted he got it booting but the touchscreen and something else didn't work. guess he got all the kinks fixed
I want webtop working...!
>=[
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I want webtop working...!
>=[
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Cool......
I got exited and saw that his other posts have nothing to do with MIUI development.. Maybe this guy just heard it somewhere and tweeted it?
Nah, he was working on it...
That is awesome news. I sorta like the looks of miui but like cm ROMS better. UNLESS miui has better performance.
Performance is always better than looks.
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I can not wait!!!
mw3!!!!
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I got exited and saw that his other posts have nothing to do with MIUI development.. Maybe this guy just heard it somewhere and tweeted it?
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That was mean of you
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Im not going to lie, Im a little skeptical. Is this really true??? Seems almost to good to be true considering how dead development is. . If it is Ill be soooo excited. MIUI = Greatness
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dead development? Sam Cripp is uploading some updated fruit cakes, CM7 just got fingerprint scanner working, Starrwarrior just got HDMI Mirroring working in landscape mode, Diviance is constantly updating Aura, Nottach is constantly updating Darkside, and Faux is working on getting bugs out of his kernel before releasing a new version of it.
we may not have a huge development community like other phones, but it's certainly not dead.
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dead development? Sam Cripp is uploading some updated fruit cakes, CM7 just got fingerprint scanner working, Starrwarrior just got HDMI Mirroring working in landscape mode, Diviance is constantly updating Aura, Nottach is constantly updating Darkside, and Faux is working on getting bugs out of his kernel before releasing a new version of it.
we may not have a huge development community like other phones, but it's certainly not dead.
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Ah the F^@& men bro
This Guy is the real deal. He developed MIUI for the G2X. I should get the zip soon to test and if all good you all should get it too.
huh huuh huuuh huh huh huuh
hi does anyone know if ICS is coming to the atrix as ive been told so many things i dont know what to believe anymore
It is, in Q3 of this year
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Ironically, you lament about what you have been "told" in the past, yet you are expecting people to "tell" you again.
You can look for yourself.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
GREASEMONKEY13 said:
hi does anyone know if ICS is coming to the atrix as ive been told so many things i dont know what to believe anymore
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Ironically, you lament about what you have been "told" in the past, yet you are expecting people to "tell" you again.
You can look for yourself.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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Oh, the irony of life.
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Install it using Cyanogenmod 9, it has Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3 it is amazingly fast. The battery lasts a lot more. The only bad thing is that it will not have Video camera recorder. And the fingerprint unlock won't work eather. Beside that everything else is so fast and cool. You can install Google Chrome!
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Wow
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Thanks man! Can't wait for ICS even though Joker and Turl are doing excellent w/ the roms.
I can vouch for turls rom also. Been using it for about 3 weeks now and have very little complaints.
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The only thing that its keeping me from using CM9 right now is the lack of video camera recorder, other than that is working pretty nice.
^ This. I love my 1080p recording and am not willing to lose it
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^ This. I love my 1080p recording and am not willing to lose it
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Same here. The moment CM9 gets video camera recorder workibg, i might switch to it.
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me too. But right now I'm running a ROM that has a lot of ICS features but has an upgraded camera etc
Cant give that heaven up!!
Throwing it out there as I have the time to pursue but not the hardware - anyone willing to part with a p3113?, I'd like to port over MIUI for the Tab2. If anyone is interested PM me.
For the love of Google, someone get this guy a P3113. Or donate so he can get one! I'll throw a few bones your way Tuesday/Wednesday.
Anyone else interested in MIUI for our tabs? If 25 of us just do $10, this guy, might just deliver something awesome.
Can, you provide us with a little more info on your dev skills; can you handle such a task? Also, a donate button, or paypal link would help your cause, getting donations.
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Hah' thanks for the plug. In theory this would be my first full blown rom. Ive always done the testing, never the up front work. I've gotten my tab to the point where I don't even care if JB gets ported to it. Everything works, its stable, snappy, and makes no sense to mess with it.
As for my Atrix4G...that ****s taken a beating and MIUI was my choice. There where too many minor bugs and since I want a phone that works full time, I stopped messing with that and went back to Jokers latest. Searching around I can't find anything for a 3113 and MIUI. In short, if I had something else to fart around with and get it to the point where it works as well as what I'm writing you with...I'd love to share, maintain, etc. Paying for the shorties education, sports, etc comes first...hah. took the honest approach with this one.
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Anyone else interested in MIUI for our tabs?
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Absolutely not.
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im more excited that people still view this forum for any activity...
Well the GTab 2 is relatively a new device so it takes some time for the community to grow. As for MIUI I have seen the Gingebread version and it's far more superior to stock rom in my previous x10i, so I also like to see the Gtab ICS version of it
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Well the GTab 2 is relatively a new device so it takes some time for the community to grow. As for MIUI I have seen the Gingebread version and it's far more superior to stock rom in my previous x10i, so I also like to see the Gtab ICS version of it
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MIUI on the Atrix was outstanding - video cam and a few other minor issues is the only thing holding me back there. I could see the potential on a gt2 esp with a kernel mod... who knows, it's just a thought! polska dobra!
Sorry man but if you want a tab 2 then buy one. They're cheap.
Miui would be cool but it wouldn't be hard for any decent developer to port. Plus with the popularity of this tablet miui will come, just a matter of time.
i hear you - hoping some decent developer forgets to work on their nexus, xoom, kindle and picks up a tab2 instead... and gets the IR to work properly
MIUI :thumbup::beer: hell yeaaa... we should start a thread too get you a GT-3100 model ....
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CXENTE said:
MIUI :thumbup::beer: hell yeaaa... we should start a thread too get you a GT-3100 model ....
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yeah, would be awesome to have MIUI roms for P3100
3113 or 3100.. either one... in theory, just like the atrix/photon
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hkjr said:
3113 or 3100.. either one... in theory, just like the atrix/photon
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Well I'm game $$$ ... lets do this thing :thumbup::beer:
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If I come up with enough scratch, I'd do both
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If I come up with enough scratch, I'd do both
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Hey well you have my $upport .. I just want roms
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In theory, couldn't one just take an MIUI rom designed for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and tweak that to work for our tabs?
Its CPU is very similar, and the GPU is the exact same.
Also this might be worth checking out aswell
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/04/samsung-releases-galaxy-tab-2-7-and-10-source-code/
I'm wouldn't dare touch the title of RecDev... but I'm interested in getting into it. I'm Gonna poke around in this... seems like everything to make this happen is sitting right there on the table so to speak.
And let's not forget that if it works on the 7.0 it can be ported to the 10.1 with less effort...
BTW, you might be interested in this thread.
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BTW, you might be interested in this thread.
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But, if you've tried out MIUI for the Kindle Fire, everything works great. I might try getting this going, I miss MIUI...
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Well he has a 7 now and I figured he would of made miui run already... the op.
Hkjr, don't you?
Hey guys.... I am thinking about making an ICS ROM, well.. 'kanging' off of a CM9 ROM most likely, anyway... I am thinking about making a slimmed-down version of an ICS ROM, it'll be mostly stock, but I'll be adding in tweaks and blah blah blah, what do you guys think? It won't be as good as Papa smurfs, or JMZ's or anyones, but it'll be for people who just want a slimmed down version of a JMZ nigtly most likely (Which I'll obviously give him full credit for), but itll have added tweaks and everything. So... what do you guys think? just be brutally honest, if you think all my ROMs suck and I shouldn't make another one because itll be like the others, then just let me know. We all have our own opinions. But if I released an ICS ROM, would you try it?
I really enjoy your Roms. They can be sort of rough and buggy at 1st but you are very diligent when it comes to updated and listening to people to try and improve them. The end results come out great.
Dang I just noticed you have 3,000 post when just a few months ago it was around 600... well 666 lol.
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I really enjoy your Roms. They can be sort of rough and buggy at 1st but you are very diligent when it comes to updated and listening to people to try and improve them. The end results come out great.
Dang I just noticed you have 3,000 post when just a few months ago it was around 600... well 666 lol.
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Hahaha. Thanks dude
And yeah, been helping lots of people out n stuff
I prefer to lurk around then just chime in every now and then. I've been lurking since the early days of XDA and didn't actually register until this year...
ANYWHOOS I would love to try out an ICS rom if you made one :highfive:
how about instead you focus on and fix all the crap that doesn't work with ICS and JB ROMS like the ffc, 4G and video playback?
Be the man!!! Get yourself the "elite developer" status instead.
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how about instead you focus on and fix all the crap that doesn't work with ICS and JB ROMS like the ffc, 4G and video playback?
Be the man!!! Get yourself the "elite developer" status instead.
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If the 'big dogs' in the community can't, there is NO way I'd be able to. Hahahaha. I could try though
You suck and your ROMs suck! They are too slow and make my phone boot loop! Your SS bricked my phone! I can't stand your update system! All your builds only half work!!
Now that all that bad Juju has been prevented, make me a kick ass ROM bro! I got your back dude
MBQsniper said:
Hey guys.... I am thinking about making an ICS ROM, well.. 'kanging' off of a CM9 ROM most likely, anyway... I am thinking about making a slimmed-down version of an ICS ROM, it'll be mostly stock, but I'll be adding in tweaks and blah blah blah, what do you guys think? It won't be as good as Papa smurfs, or JMZ's or anyones, but it'll be for people who just want a slimmed down version of a JMZ nigtly most likely (Which I'll obviously give him full credit for), but itll have added tweaks and everything. So... what do you guys think? just be brutally honest, if you think all my ROMs suck and I shouldn't make another one because itll be like the others, then just let me know. We all have our own opinions. But if I released an ICS ROM, would you try it?
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yeah dude if YOU want to make a rom then you make one. Just do you. If you need any help let me know.
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hmm, maybe try re-working your past rom's. if sense extract from ruu exe and build from there, or build from source. get a better understanding of how things interact and make improvements to gb to get an ICS feel with everything working. my2cents.
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You suck and your ROMs suck! They are too slow and make my phone boot loop! Your SS bricked my phone! I can't stand your update system! All your builds only half work!!
Now that all that bad Juju has been prevented, make me a kick ass ROM bro! I got your back dude
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yeah dude if YOU want to make a rom then you make one. Just do you. If you need any help let me know.
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hmm, maybe try re-working your past rom's. if sense extract from ruu exe and build from there, or build from source. get a better understanding of how things interact and make improvements to gb to get an ICS feel with everything working. my2cents.
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Thank you all
Go for it MBQ we could have a comp.
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You suck and your ROMs suck! They are too slow and make my phone boot loop! Your SS bricked my phone! I can't stand your update system! All your builds only half work!!
Now that all that bad Juju has been prevented, make me a kick ass ROM bro! I got your back dude
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Hahaha ^^^^ this made me laugh ,I like your roms SensAosp is badass if you know what you are doing and get it working right
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Remember gummy worm rom? Bring that back lol. If anything add some more customization on the settings like navi bar, status bar, performance mods/tweaks. Weather lock screen
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Remember gummy worm rom? Bring that back lol. If anything add some more customization on the settings like navi bar, status bar, performance mods/tweaks. Weather lock screen
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gummyworm rom?
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gummyworm rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544181
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Lol I was actually looking at that today... they released gummy bean
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Sinistertensai said:
hmm, maybe try re-working your past rom's. if sense extract from ruu exe and build from there, or build from source. get a better understanding of how things interact and make improvements to gb to get an ICS feel with everything working. my2cents.
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I 100% agree with Sin,extract the system and boot images from a ruu.exe and go from there,you will get the feel for where everything goes and what they do,plus it wont be kanged from another dev,the easiest way to do that is through the kitchen,it works great for that and extracting kernels.I know theres alot of sense roms out there and you can only do soo much with them,well its the same with ICS and JB,its all the same until the camera and 4G get fixed,dont you think theres enough of those running around that arent complete,at least everything on the sense roms work.Just my opinion.