I fell into the 6.2.1 trap before I got Google Android Market installed. As a result of a partial market installation, I get periodic errors about the android market that pop up and need to be forced closed. I plan to do a factory reset and return the device to the store then buy a new one with the original OS. I need to know what to do so I can get it working with Android Market OTA.
Since the tablet has only 6+ GB to play with, I don't want to load it with too many hacking type tools or other OS. I am interested in seeing how Titanium Backup works but I don't know if I want to keep the KF permananently rooted. My main goal is to have Android Market available and working wirelessly. I am also trying do decide whether to block the the OTA update from Amazon permanently or just until I get my basic Google apps installed. So my plan is:
Get a new Kindle Fire with old OS
Leave WiFi off
Root with Super One Click
Install Google Android Market
Disable rerouting to Amazon Market
Am I right assuming that once installed, Google Android Market will continue to function once Amazon updates me to the latest version?
I also want to make sure that I have Google Mail and Google Maps and I don't know if 6.2.1 unrooted prevents installing those. I like the ability of the 6.2.1 to get rid of junk on the carousel and the scrolling speed seems a little better now. Of course videos are playable with unrooted KF.
Am I missing any steps or are there other recommendations?
You should be able to install Google maps and Gmail onto a regular 6.2.1 KF without any problems.
I don't think there's a known method to block the update while keeping full online functionality.
The best thing at the moment is to install a premodded 6.2.1 update with root access so you can install the Market Place etc.
In anycase if you return the unit for a new one there could (and probably will) be another update in a few weeks. So far there's been an update every couple of weeks since it came out. Each time you lose root and are back to square one.
I'm waiting for someone more clever than me to find a workaround to get root access back on a 6.2.1...
PS - 6GB is a lot of room for installing apps! I wouldn't worry about running out of room unless you're filling up your KF with downloaded media.
oh and PPS - Amazon updates can easily stop the market place from working. The 6.2.1 update has stopped mine from working (because I had it installed in /system/app which is one of the folders replaced in the last update.)
Got new 6.0 KF - Bootstrapping Catch 22
So I returned the 6.2.1 version and got a new one with 6.0 still installed. Now I find that I have no way of loading any apps with the stock unit. The directories that show up on the device through the USB connection are very limited. I copied the root explorer app to the documents directory but naturally it does not show up.
Without having a file explorer app, I don't know how to proceed. If I turn on and register the Kindle, I am liable to get updated immediately. If I can just get to the Amazon store and get a file explorer app and then quickly turn off wireless I may luck out. Are there any other ways to get an app installed without having an app like root explorer or similar without having to first go to Amazon market?
6.2.1? I'm still on 6.2. What's the deal? Why did i not get the update?
Update - I was able to quickly register and bring in the root explorer app. I then turned off WiFi and found I was still at 6.0. Now to try to root it...
Has anyone been able to install the new version of Kindle (3.4.0) for Android on a rooted Nook Touch? It's supposed to work for Android 2.1+, but the update doesn't show up in the Market for me, and if I uninstall Kindle entirely, and then re-download and reinstall it, I get version 3.2.0 again. If I try to sideload the apk, I get a Parse Error.
I'd really love to get the updated app installed, because it shows the page numbers from the original book, which would be useful leading my students through a textbook.
OK, then, let me ask a different question: has anyone successfully installed the new Kindle for Android version, or am I the only one with a problem?
Seriously, has no one else tried to install the new version of Kindle for Android? You can tell what version you have by looking at the app in Titanium Backup. It's a serious bummer that I bought this Nook because I could easily read both Nook and Kindle e-books, and less than two months later the thing won't install the latest version of Kindle.
MTKnife said:
Has anyone been able to install the new version of Kindle (3.4.0) for Android on a rooted Nook Touch? It's supposed to work for Android 2.1+, but the update doesn't show up in the Market for me, and if I uninstall Kindle entirely, and then re-download and reinstall it, I get version 3.2.0 again. If I try to sideload the apk, I get a Parse Error.
I'd really love to get the updated app installed, because it shows the page numbers from the original book, which would be useful leading my students through a textbook.
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3.2.0 is the version from market and works on all nook touch. 3.4 is from Amazon appstore and is DRM protected. The apk will only installed on a Nook touch signed in with the orignal amazon account.
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3.2.0 is the version from market and works on all nook touch. 3.4 is from Amazon appstore and is DRM protected. The apk will only installed on a Nook touch signed in with the orignal amazon account.
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No, 3.4.0 is also in the Android Market--I know that because 1) the new version was announced on Android Central (and a lot of other places), 2) the version number is listed in the Android Market description, and 3) I successfully downloaded it, from the Market, onto my phone, and verified the version number in Titanium Backup. I also just verified, on my phone, that page numbers work (though you have to tap the bottom of the screen or select "Go to" to see them).
Good idea to try the Amazon Appstore version--but unfortunately, Kindle for Android doesn't even show up in the Appstore for my Nook. That does lead to another question, though: has anyone successfully downloaded and installed Kindle 3.4.0 from the Amazon Appstore?
Actually, I just tried another tactic, and transferred the 3.4.0 Titanium Backup files to the Nook. I first tried restoring 3.4.0 over the top of 3.2.0--this appeared to be successful, but when I opened the app it was still 3.2.0. I then uninstalled 3.2.0 and tried the restore of 3.4.0 again, and it simply hangs: it's apparently, for some reason, not compatible with the Nook Touch. I wonder if there's some way that could be fixed?
Here's the link to the Amazon Appstore APK, courtesy of Amazon itself!
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Here's the link to the Amazon Appstore APK, courtesy of Amazon itself!
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Thanks. I have the Amazon Appstore installed--that's not the problem. The problem is Kindle for Android, which doesn't show up in the Amazon Appstore (and I have copies of the APK of Kindle for Android). I am able to find and install other apps from the Appstore, though for some apps I get a Parse Error when I try to.
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Thanks. I have the Amazon Appstore installed--that's not the problem. The problem is Kindle for Android, which doesn't show up in the Amazon Appstore (and I have copies of the APK of Kindle for Android). I am able to find and install other apps from the Appstore, though for some apps I get a Parse Error when I try to.
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I have BN 1.1.0 for the Touch. Kindle 3.2 shows up when I go to Market - not Android Central but the google market. Kindle 3.4 shows up when I go to Amazon Appstore. My understanding is that for Market, only apks that install shows up.
What version of Touch are you on and how did you root the Touch?
I'm using SalsichaNooter, though I tried to install the APK under MinimalTouch (which is I what I rooted with this time, after doing a factory restore). It is definitely not the case that all apps that show up in the Appstore can be installed: for example, Application Folder Pro is one I've purchased (for my phone) and that shows up on the Nook, but I get a "Parse Error" when I try to install it.
And yes, you're right that it says 3.2 in the Android Market, under the actual version number; I was looking instead at the changelog, which says 3.4. However, that's only for the Nook: for my Evo 3D, the version that shows up in the Android Market is 3.4.
Before I go putting another ROM on this thing, have you actually been able to install version 3.4.0 of Kindle for Android from the Amazon Appstore, and if so, what ROM are you using?
If I install the Kindle app from the Android Market on my NST running B&N 1.1.0, I get v3.2.0.35. If I install it on my NC running B&N 1.4.1, I get 3.4.0.156.
The NST is only running 2.1 Eclair, while the NC is running 2.2 Froyo. On the Kindle Market page, it says the current version "varies with device", so I suspect that's the underlying issue
The rooters don't change the actual ROM you're running. Not sure what you mean by another ROM.
Chances are it's not running properly because it needs Froyo or higher, meaning that the NST is just not compatible no matter what you try.
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If I install the Kindle app from the Android Market on my NST running B&N 1.1.0, I get v3.2.0.35. If I install it on my NC running B&N 1.4.1, I get 3.4.0.156.
The NST is only running 2.1 Eclair, while the NC is running 2.2 Froyo. On the Kindle Market page, it says the current version "varies with device", so I suspect that's the underlying issue
The rooters don't change the actual ROM you're running. Not sure what you mean by another ROM.
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All of the custom ROM's available for the Nook Touch are the same version of Android, 2.1 (Eclair), but there are several different ROM's available (four that I know of): in the usual Android parlance, if the firmware is modified at all (even though it's based on the original firmware), it's called a new ROM. When you root your Nook, you're not merely rooting it, but actually changing some of the stuff in the original ROM, including, for example, the framework files--if you look inside the MinimalTouch package, for example (since that one comes as a ZIP file, it's easy to look at), you'll see all the files that are changed.
However, as a later poster noted, the problem seems to be that Kindle 3.4 runs only on Android 2.2+, rather than Android 2.1+; Amazon doesn't appear to have bothered to document this, and that's the source of my confusion.
Safe to say, then, "putting another ROM on" won't fix this problem. You'll still be running 2.1 Eclair, no matter which rooter you try. I think you're stuck with the older Kindle version on this device, at least for now. I'm not aware of any ongoing efforts to put Froyo on this device.
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All of the custom ROM's available for the Nook Touch are the same version of Android, 2.1 (Eclair), but there are several different ROM's available (four that I know of): in the usual Android parlance, if the firmware is modified at all (even though it's based on the original firmware), it's called a new ROM. When you root your Nook, you're not merely rooting it, but actually changing some of the stuff in the original ROM, including, for example, the framework files--if you look inside the MinimalTouch package, for example (since that one comes as a ZIP file, it's easy to look at), you'll see all the files that are changed.
However, as a later poster noted, the problem seems to be that Kindle 3.4 runs only on Android 2.2+, rather than Android 2.1+; Amazon doesn't appear to have bothered to document this, and that's the source of my confusion.
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They're not different ROMS. They just aren't. All you're doing is rooting the device, not replacing the ROM.
I rooted my Nook a while back (still even on the 1.0.0 firmware), but only now started looking into updating it. I saw the update for the Kindle on my Sensation versus the NST, but I'm not sure I see a compelling reason to try to force the update (though a real page numbers would be nice).
Is the hardware even capable of running Froyo? Maybe it's just the e-ink screen, but it seems slow enough just with Eclair.
hardware is capable of running froyo but there is no froyo rom for NST. :-D
It's already been stated, but to summarize:
The new Kindle app needs Android 2.2 and above, the NST is only at 2.1.
There are no roms for this device at the moment, and probably never.
See attached older version that I just installed on a Simple Touch no problem.
3.2.0.35 shows up in the Market on my rooted NST. It's just the newer version that doesn't.
Newspapers
I have recently discovered that reading newspapers/magazines is only really possible with the older versions (Kindle-2.0.5.103970165.apk : http://www.freewarelovers.com/android/app/kindle) because the overview page of a multistory object on the newer versions 3+ does not accept gestures (swipe up and down are ignored or interpreted as clicks) so it is impossible to scroll. The gestures work fine in every other part of the program just not in the overview. The only apparent downside of version 2 is that there is no dictionary which I sometimes miss.