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Engadget posted an article today berrating Samsung and Tmo for allowibg the vibrant to ship in non-working form. Check out their editorial.
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http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/02/wheres-the-gps-fix-for-the-samsung-vibrant-and-captivate/
Update: We've just received an official statement from Samsung on the matter:
"Samsung Mobile is aware that under certain conditions, the GPS on our U.S. Galaxy S devices may not be meeting performance expectations. We are diligently evaluating the situation and will provide an update as soon as possible."
hopefully media attention will prompt samsung to addressing it as timely as possible
Kind of sad this is what it takes to get them to fix something. I don't think it's been determined whether it's just a software glitch, or something more serious like hardware that requires a revision. Software can be pushed to the phone, where a new chip can't.
thunderstruck! said:
Kind of sad this is what it takes to get them to fix something. I don't think it's been determined whether it's just a software glitch, or something more serious like hardware that requires a revision. Software can be pushed to the phone, where a new chip can't.
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They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
The more media coverage, however late, this gets the better. Do you think apple would have moved so quickly on their "fix" were it not for the ridiculous media coverage?
I hope some more mainstream news outlets pick up on this. That might force more than a canned response from samsung.
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blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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the only issue I've had is once I turn on gps then open maps, it freezes maps to the point of a reboot needed. Other than that the gps works great
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heygrl said:
They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
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+1
i'm sure they are working on a fix. but they are working on 2.2, launching the epic, etc. as well. i'm fine waiting for a real fix, not some quickly hacked together patch that isn't properly tested.
or cm6, whichever happens first.
= P
blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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I wasn't at first either, but then it started. Every device has the problem, just not 100% of the time.
It will be fixed very soon, though. This is Samsung's top priority right now.
blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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no. I also didn't have issues with the GPS.
At least, not until I began thinking that I was just missing something and tried one of the "fixes" on my device. Now my GPS reception is noticeably worse than stock.
blanked said:
Am I the only one who hasn't had any issues to speak of with GPS?
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Try this...disable "use wireless networks" under "location and security"(this will let the phone use JUST the GPS receiver), then download and install Googles "My Tracks" app. Run that app while driving a long distance, and see just how accurate your GPS is.
ultra spikey said:
Try this...disable "use wireless networks" under "location and security"(this will let the phone use JUST the GPS receiver), then download and install Googles "My Tracks" app. Run that app while driving a long distance, and see just how accurate your GPS is.
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Why would I want to disable that, though?
I don't doubt that the issue exists, but I'm not going to go out of my way to experience it. I'm no masochist...
If the phone is using Wireless Networks for a location fix in your car the accuracy would be awful and noticeably off.
heygrl said:
They're already aware. If you think Engadget posting this crap to their mobile site weeks after even THEY experienced their first issue with GPS is what it "takes" for Samsung to acknowledge the problem you're sadly mistaken. This is NO different from what they posted on Twitter
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yes - especially if other media pick up on it, and verizon & sprint catch wind of it and actually test theirs before releasing - that would be the real pressure point on sammy
At least Samsung isn't saying this is our fault or round up a bunch of competitors' phones and say they have the same issues. The fact that they say they're evaluating the situation makes it sound like the fix isn't coming any time soon.
jkcheng122 said:
At least Samsung isn't saying this is our fault or round up a bunch of competitors' phones and say they have the same issues. The fact that they say they're evaluating the situation makes it sound like the fix isn't coming any time soon.
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+1
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Last time samsung had to "look into" something, behold 2 didn't get the upgrade it was promised.
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daddysays said:
Last time samsung had to "look into" something, behold 2 didn't get the upgrade it was promised.
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true, but nearly everyone knew the behold was a pile of crap from the get go.
the galaxy s is launching in over 100 countries, including every major carrier in the US. they are projected to sell over 10 million handsets. samsung lives or dies by this phone, IMO. i can understand frustration from their previous handsets, but if they drop the ball on the galaxy s, they might as well get out of the business all together.
Whenever I try to use the gps on my phone through the maps app, it says I am in Seattle, while I live in new hampshire. What is going on here???
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I don't know how to fix that but I'd like to know how you got CM7 running on your Droid X!
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Jmoney47 said:
Whenever I try to use the gps on my phone through the maps app, it says I am in Seattle, while I live in new hampshire. What is going on here???
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Chicago or Seattle? Which is it?
I suspect someone has hacked your google account and is pushing bad GPS data to your phone. Probably setting you up as a fall guy on some mob hit.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Chicago or Seattle? Which is it?
I suspect someone has hacked your google account and is pushing bad GPS data to your phone. Probably setting you up as a fall guy on some mob hit.
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Lol good point. I meant Seattle. Sorry about that. And it is a modded version of maps if that helps
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Chicago or Seattle? Which is it?
I suspect someone has hacked your google account and is pushing bad GPS data to your phone. Probably setting you up as a fall guy on some mob hit.
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It's possible. According to the Motorola forums, Jimmy Hoffa has a Droid X (still on Froyo though)
Maybe you are in Seattle and everyone around you is lying.
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Are you a Griswold?
Maybe you are in Seattle and everyone around you is lying.<br />
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Then how would you explain the atlantic ocean?
Some more info: this issue is present for both google maps and the modded maps by brut.all
I did a search for you, because the oddity of this problem is interesting, there seems to be a consensus that you need to run GPS only, no "cell network" assistance.
I was also interested if you were suffering the possible side effects of allowing Lightsquared to transmit so close to the GPS frequencies.
Hope this helps.
What is Lightsquared? I have not heard of that before
Lightsquared is trying to bring Internet to portable devices, not over cell freqs. They petitioned the FCC for new freqs and got approval earlier this year.
The problem is that their freqs are very close to GPS freqs...It's got a lot of people worried that the very low power GPS will no longer work correctly against the background of the much more powerful signals from Lightsquared.
http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system...us-gps-jamming-fcc-approved-broadcaster-11029
I'm curious to see if everyone's GPS will have issues, especially when they are near large cities that Lightsquared has deployed to.
Stumbled on this. Apps/development/allow mock locations is that checked?
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crawcraw said:
Stumbled on this. Apps/development/allow mock locations is that checked?
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No it is not.
And that Lightsquared thing sounds pretty interesting. I will look more into it.
Just a quickie question, does any of the current win 7 roms support agps for fast gps?
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id hazard a guess at saying yes it does, AGPS is just a way of assisting the device in locating you, it uses the network towers dotted about to do this.
WP can do this quite well even without a GPS signal, does it work in making a propper GPS lock quicker, no idea, seems pretty damn quick if you ask me, just several seconds most times
^^^ Now that´s a good question indeed.
When I tested some navigation software, the satfix was at least as fast as under WinMo. But, there is no such thing like "QuickGPS". Maybe it´s inside the system, as the previous poster mentioned?
Maybe a specialist will know...
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^^^ Now that´s a good question indeed.
When I tested some navigation software, the satfix was at least as fast as under WinMo. But, there is no such thing like "QuickGPS". Maybe it´s inside the system, as the previous poster mentioned?
Maybe a specialist will know...
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i suspect it is built in, i think things like tilt, light sensor, compass etc are all under a single API, if a software calls for a function the API gives it as much info as it can based on all the hardware that it can provide
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Just a quickie question, does any of the current win 7 roms support agps for fast gps?
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thx guys for the response. was just curious, as i am currently running android, and we all know that it does not have agps. cold locks on average take like a minute to minute and half. might switch to win 7 later for the faster gps, might the problem is the lack of any good gps apps like google maps!
Agps is not really helpful...
Has anyone tried using the new EVO GPS Drivers? I'm curious is this will help us out at all. Its supposed to work with all AOSP roms I'm pretty sure. I just flshed it and will try it out later.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14534313&postcount=2478
I think the better question is does the EVO and the Shift have the same GPS chip. Remember for the most part they're different phones.
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I actually flashed them on to my shift without knowing and they worked great. Got 9/9 satellites in GPS status in less than 30 seconds, but now my GPS is acting wonky, really hard to get a lock and lucky if I get 1 satellite. It would be really nice if we could get a developer to port those drivers to speedy.
what tells you that that driver is better than the one the shift already have?
evo and the shift are the same in name only.
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finalhit said:
what tells you that that driver is better than the one the shift already have?
evo and the shift are the same in name only.
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Just read the threads. People are enjoying a vast improvement in GPS performance with those drivers. I PMed Galandy to see if he can help with Speedy.
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Just read the threads. People are enjoying a vast improvement in GPS performance with those drivers. I PMed Galandy to see if he can help with Speedy.
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But it appears that your gps is acting up now right? So maybe the phone the drivers are made for gets improved GPS not so much every phone because like ronoverdrive said the only thing the evo and shift have in common is name, internals are totally different
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I've never had issues with my GPS.
IT would be nice if there would be an update for the shift GPS drivers, mine always shows me like a block away from my actual location its frustrating as hell. Its the only drawback I have had switching from a Transform to the Shift.
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IT would be nice if there would be an update for the shift GPS drivers, mine always shows me like a block away from my actual location its frustrating as hell. Its the only drawback I have had switching from a Transform to the Shift.
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Turn off "use wifi networks" in location settings.
strapped365 said:
But it appears that your gps is acting up now right? So maybe the phone the drivers are made for gets improved GPS not so much every phone because like ronoverdrive said the only thing the evo and shift have in common is name, internals are totally different
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It seems to be somewhat working better now, but I have to be outdoors. I'm still experimenting with it. I think Sprint might have had issues in my area the past few days.
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It seems to be somewhat working better now, but I have to be outdoors. I'm still experimenting with it. I think Sprint might have had issues in my area the past few days.
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I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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strapped365 said:
I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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Yeah I'm sure. Because the other drivers flash something.supersonic.so and the rom wouldn't use that on shift it would use the speedy.so library.
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Yeah I'm sure. Because the other drivers flash something.supersonic.so and the rom wouldn't use that on shift it would use the speedy.so library.
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well supersonic is the evo and speedy is the shift...i just sold my rooted evo that was not activated and my gps was flawless so thats what brings me to the conclusion that GPS is not network dependant
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I didnt think GPS was network dependant? But who am i to say so, Are you sure the other phones drivers are not causing problems
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Our GPS like many Android phones are not pure GPS units and are actually Assisted GPS (AGPS). Rough location is first acquired from the network tower's or WiFi address's geo-location while the GPS attempts to get a satellite lock for a more refined location lock. This network dependence is why you can almost always get a fast lock on your phone and not on dedicated GPS units.
Well i had not openen maps or anything since my last flash and with no network on and no wifi on my gps still found me within 3 meters
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Turn off "use wifi networks" in location settings.
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Ok so I have to ask. Why do you say "turn off the setting for use WiFi Networks" ? I'm not saying your wrong I just want to here your logic. Because, any time Google Maps or Navigation has any issues locking on a location. The recommended thing to do is Turn On WiFi . Here's some interesting reading for you:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=81873
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20009223-265.html
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/43553-google-maps-use-wifi-gps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless
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Ok so I have to ask. Why do you say "turn off the setting for use WiFi Networks" ? I'm not saying your wrong I just want to here your logic. Because, any time Google Maps or Navigation has any issues locking on a location. The recommended thing to do is Turn On WiFi . Here's some interesting reading for you:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=81873
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20009223-265.html
http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/43553-google-maps-use-wifi-gps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyhook_Wireless
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Because it turns off the Network Assist and forces your phone to get a true GPS lock instead of just timing out. Network Assist is needed for when you can't get a location lock or to speed up the process. As far as Google Maps is concerned a rough location is better then no location when a narrow location GPS lock is taking a long time to acquire.
Ron Overdrive said:
Our GPS like many Android phones are not pure GPS units and are actually Assisted GPS (AGPS). Rough location is first acquired from the network tower's or WiFi address's geo-location while the GPS attempts to get a satellite lock for a more refined location lock. This network dependence is why you can almost always get a fast lock on your phone and not on dedicated GPS units.
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Very true, and I'd like to keep wifi assist off if possible but it seems that it just doesn't work that way. I think that might have been the problem I was experiencing was due to having wifi off.
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Very true, and I'd like to keep wifi assist off if possible but it seems that it just doesn't work that way. I think that might have been the problem I was experiencing was due to having wifi off.
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The thing is I was able to get a GPS lock indoors in my house with 9/9 satellites. Don't remember if Wifi assist was on or off. But I'm trying it in the office right now with wifi assist on and can't get 1 satellite with wifi assist on.
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The thing is I was able to get a GPS lock indoors in my house with 9/9 satellites. Don't remember if Wifi assist was on or off. But I'm trying it in the office right now with wifi assist on and can't get 1 satellite with wifi assist on.
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Which should bring us back to the main point...usuing GPS drivers meant for another phone might not be the best idea ever
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Has anyone been able to get their Evo to connect to freedom pop?
I have changed the realm and Mac, just like the S2 phone, but to no avail.
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Has anyone been able to get their Evo to connect to freedom pop?
I have changed the realm and Mac, just like the S2 phone, but to no avail.
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It's probably possible if you have a wifi network set up with them as your isp. I don't know much about them, and I don't have FreedomPop availability anywhere near me, so I can't really help you. Sorry
did it work?
ant news on this post??
I have an old EVO 4G and considering it's a free service, I'll give it a shot when I get home.
I got it to work a few hours ago.
I had to revert to stock and then update profile.
Works though, I am also not in the coverage area. But I can make calls.
Thanks for the tip frogman, I had to update profile as well but it worked. Another note for others: The MSL password freedompop gave me during its setup instructions did not work, but updating profile afterwards did.
Here's a speed test on 4G in the Houston area. Not too shabby for a 100% free service!!
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/653272762
I just flashed my old bedside Evo 4g (it's seriously been an alarm clock for months) back to Sprint from Cricket and activated it with FreedomPop. I bought it a couple years ago thinking it had a bad ESN and I could save a few bucks using it on Cricket. I would have never imaged that today I would be activating it for totally free service.
My alarm clock has just become highly capable off wifi again lol.
Crazy.
It's time to get back in to developing on this thing again.
Update: Seems to work nicely so far. The only things I'd note are that the VoIP is a tad slow. If I make a call in the same room with someone I notice about a 1 second delay between them actually talking and me hearing them on the phone. Also I really don't like the text messaging app. It cuts off part of the text message with the balloon graphic. Not sure if there's any way around that. It'd be nice if they'd hijack the default messaging app in the same way they did the phone app so it'd be truly seamless. But oh well, it is FREE.
Has anyone tried this with a non-stock ROM like Cyanogenmod?
i got it working, finally. i had to get my own msl unlock code.
Anyways, i just got the phone off of CL. I want to root it.
before i can root it, i need to unlock the bootloader, and it would factory reset the phone. Would the factory reset mess up the freedompop setup?
thanks
cfli1688c1 said:
i got it working, finally. i had to get my own msl unlock code.
Anyways, i just got the phone off of CL. I want to root it.
before i can root it, i need to unlock the bootloader, and it would factory reset the phone. Would the factory reset mess up the freedompop setup?
thanks
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I just got my (retired) OG set up on this. Was pretty straightforward. Once the device is activated, you should be able to unlock/S-OFF/whatever. I'm about to check and see if it's possible to use a JellyBean ROM with it. It should be fine.
Works on CM10.1. And I can still use Google Voice for my other number through the native dialer, if I want. Very nice.
Captain_Throwback said:
Works on CM10.1. And I can still use Google Voice for my other number through the native dialer, if I want. Very nice.
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Which rom did you flash? Would the 422 aokp rom work?
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Which rom did you flash? Would the 422 aokp rom work?
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Any ROM should work, as long as you activate it on stock first. Once it's activated it should stay that way.
Keep in mind though that you lose WiMAX once you flash a non-Gingerbread ROM. Call quality did seem adequate over 3G, though (surprisingly).
Would someone mind sharing the search terms you used to find instructions on how to flash to Freedom pop? I've searched Google and even on Freedom pop's website. I'm willing to search, but just need a little help to get started.
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you dont need to flash to it, but you do need to have the right phones:
Phones you can bring:
- Source Gizmodo
HTC EVO 4G
Samsung Epic 4G
Samsung Epic 4G Touch
Samsung Galaxy S III 16GB
LG Optimus S
Motorola Photon 4G
HTC EVO 3D
Boost Prevail by Samsung
Galaxy Nexus by Samsung
Nexus S 4G by Samsung
http://freedompop.com/byod
- after you put your address, you will need to put the meid of the phone, then it will tell you if you phone will work with them
Many thanks!
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cfli1688c1 said:
you dont need to flash to it, but you do need to have the right phones:
Phones you can bring:
- Source Gizmodo
HTC EVO 4G
Samsung Epic 4G
Samsung Epic 4G Touch
Samsung Galaxy S III 16GB
LG Optimus S
Motorola Photon 4G
HTC EVO 3D
Boost Prevail by Samsung
Galaxy Nexus by Samsung
Nexus S 4G by Samsung
http://freedompop.com/byod
- after you put your address, you will need to put the meid of the phone, then it will tell you if you phone will work with them
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EVO 3D doesn't work - I tried it. I think the EVO 4G might be the only phone they're supporting initially (since it's the one they offer). And you have to use the MEID DEC - HEX won't work.
Loading went well. Speed test over 1mb down. Made a test phone call... Unbelievable! This can't be real. Lol All, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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Captain_Throwback said:
EVO 3D doesn't work - I tried it. I think the EVO 4G might be the only phone they're supporting initially (since it's the one they offer). And you have to use the MEID DEC - HEX won't work.
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Yep, the only phone you can activate right now is the Evo 4G or the Evo design. Some people are having luck with the Galaxy SII, but it's not universal. Long thread here:
http://slickdeals.net/f/6449794-fre...sprint-byod-phones-for-voice-text-data-plans?