To get Google Apps.
What about you?
Cuz I could.
Also don't need root for google apps.
I rooted for the simple fact that I could do it. I don't own anything Android that isn't rooted.
for google apps and android market here
I have a few questions...
You don't have to be rooted to install apps right? All I do is check mark authroize apps in settings and then just put the apk on my kindle and install? Or do I have to email it to my kindle email? Do all apps from android market work?
If you don't need root access for 3rd party apps why cant google apps be installed? I guess I'm confused on why anyone should root a kindle right now? Since its so new? What are the advantages of a rooted kindle?
Last question, is there any way to save that Amazon prime thing if you do root? I have that fee month trial right now.
bal1985 said:
I have a few questions...
You don't have to be rooted to install apps right? All I do is check mark authroize apps in settings and then just put the apk on my kindle and install? Or do I have to email it to my kindle email? Do all apps from android market work?
If you don't need root access for 3rd party apps why cant google apps be installed? I guess I'm confused on why anyone should root a kindle right now? Since its so new? What are the advantages of a rooted kindle?
Last question, is there any way to save that Amazon prime thing if you do root? I have that fee month trial right now.
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U only have to root the kindle to install the market..if u don't root it and install it it will force close and not work properly..that's why u have to root..but after u root u can unroot and the market will work corrrectly..
That's my experience as well.
- Ed
For the couple extra apps I could get from the Google Market, and to put a real launcher on it. I do not like the home screen on the Fire. The carousel is just a big mess of "stuff". I do like all the app screens, I just think the home is a fail.
Don't freak out amazon, I've been buying more stuff then ever. Even with out your front end.
o For Google Apps
o For Android Market
o For Screen Shot abilities (for training)
o AdFree
o Change stock keyboard
o Titanium Backup
Root file managers so I can tinker with it. My wife's unit is till stock. I got mine after she complained I had taken it over.
I rooted for custom launcher, market, and google apps.
FYI you can keep using the amazon apps (video, mp3, etc..) while rooted if you just rename the "su" binary to something else. I renamed mine to "super" and can still watch amazon vod.
Because I could, mostly. But also for the Android Market and Titanium Backup, plus screenshots. I also use an app for temp unrooting since I'm a Prime member. Getting my 3 year old into cartoons from when I was his age..
antagonizt said:
I rooted for custom launcher, market, and google apps.
FYI you can keep using the amazon apps (video, mp3, etc..) while rooted if you just rename the "su" binary to something else. I renamed mine to "super" and can still watch amazon vod.
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I have rooted and installed andoid marketplace. Which "su" binary file are you referring to?
Because I like to do things that others advise against.
Xdpker06 said:
I have rooted and installed andoid marketplace. Which "su" binary file are you referring to?
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the one in /system/bin/su
You'll have to remount system rw first
For Google apps, the Market, custom keyboards, custom launcher and cause it's FUN!
Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk
antagonizt said:
the one in /system/bin/su
You'll have to remount system rw first
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Thanks! For apps like google Maps, is there anyway to get location services working? like figuring out your location thru wifi like the ipod touch.
*edit* actually that seems to have broken my root. Superuser no longers gives permission to Root Explorer so I can't even change it back to su. How do I fix this?
Xdpker06 said:
Thanks! For apps like google Maps, is there anyway to get location services working? like figuring out your location thru wifi like the ipod touch.
*edit* actually that seems to have broken my root. Superuser no longers gives permission to Root Explorer so I can't even change it back to su. How do I fix this?
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You'll have to use adb and do it via command line.
Code:
$ adb -d shell
$ super
# /system/xbin/busybox mount -o remount,rw /system
# mv /system/bin/super /system/bin/su
# exit
$ exit
$ adb -d reboot
I guess the Superuser app looks for the "su" binary as well? Maybe there is a way to tell it you've renamed "su"... a setting called path to su or some such thing
Thanks. Do you also know how to the location thingy working on google maps?
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Thanks. Do you also know how to the location thingy working on google maps?
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Sorry, I don't know what's wrong with maps on the Kindle. It should use info about the AP you are connected to and be able to give an approximate location if the AP mac is in Google's DB.
Kindle Fire has no GPS, so locating yourself is not possible. I use mapquest for pinpointing my location and it works great. Mapquest uses OpenStreatMap for finding your location, but searching for directions is done only through wifi.
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I'm just wondering if anybody has managed to get the Sky Go app working with a rooted Nexus 7?
I've read somewhere that a rooted Android device can work with Sky Go if it is running a stock kernel and used in conjunction with Temp Root Remover.
If anybody has, please share your set up. :good:
Many Thanks,
Andy
I don't have an active Sky account anymore, but on Modaco JR13 with Stock kernel and unsecure boot.
I managed to load the app and sign into my old account without any problems.
Obviously I didn't get as far as watching TV as my account is closed.
Hope this helps.
+1 would like top know if it is possible
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
This thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042095 ) describes a possible workaround (removal of supersu) but grants all subsequently installed apps root access after this, hence not ideal.
Fingers crossed a more secure method or patched apk arises in the future!
aaronje said:
This thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042095 ) describes a possible workaround (removal of supersu) but grants all subsequently installed apps root access after this, hence not ideal.
Fingers crossed a more secure method or patched apk arises in the future!
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OK so I have a nexus 7 (2012) on standard Android 4.4.4.
Rooted with CWM and superSU 2.01
I just used the root hider app from the play store and selected ..
Hide Su binary and then
Uninstall super user (selected chain fire SuperSU option)
I then had to go into my root of my nexus 7 and remove the sky go files stored there.
After I deleted them I then restarted the tablet.
I can still reinstalled superSU as I'm still rooted but its a bit of a Hassel ATM as every time I want to watch SkyGO I have to follow the same routine, hideSu > uninstall superSU > delete SkyGO files from root dir > restart tablet.
I think there should be an Xposed module to hide root to certain apps, not 100% sure though..
A simple google search would answer your question: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hide+root+access+android+xposed+module
But any ways here is the right module: http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
It's called rootcloak. Remember: you need the Xposed Framework!
flopower1996 said:
A simple google search would answer your question: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hide+root+access+android+xposed+module
But any ways here is the right module: http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
It's called rootcloak. Remember: you need the Xposed Framework!
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Still not working with the above, shame I just don't want to lose root.
jb.traveller said:
Still not working with the above, shame I just don't want to lose root.
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hide su from google play works
1eyedmonster said:
hide su from google play works
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Hi mate, could you give me a run down to what you did as I still can't get it to work.
Thanks.
1eyedmonster said:
hide su from google play works
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I couldn't even find the app?
Hello there,
I have rooted my nook simple touch using the guide found bellow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35267728#post35267728
It worked out after a while of struggling, but now I am wondering how am I able to install 3rd party android apps on it? I have downloaded a test .apk application on the nook toc heck either it is working. It comes out that it doesnt, but maybe its because i went browsing for it using the library app, as I havent found any other file browser on the system. I amrunning the latest 1.2.1 version.
I Would really aprichiate some help in this matter, I tried googling out but i havent found anything specific to help me solve the problem, there were some solutions to the newer models that dont apply for me.
@bremenpl,
Arguably, the best file explorer available for the Nook Touch is ES File Explorer 3 (free on Google Play). It's what I use.
To enable 3rd-party app installation, install NookColor Tools, open the app, and check the box for "Allow Non-Market Apps".
The problem is I dont have any file browser at all and I cant install any .apk on my nook. NookColor Tools is also an .apk and I cannot open this kind of file in library browser. How to overcome that? I dont have google apps installed as I didnt want to install google play, gmail and etc. I tried loging into amazon appstore that is installed, but it doesnt accept my login nad password.
bremenpl said:
The problem is I dont have any file browser at all and I cant install any .apk on my nook. NookColor Tools is also an .apk and I cannot open this kind of file in library browser. How to overcome that? I dont have google apps installed as I didnt want to install google play, gmail and etc. I tried loging into amazon appstore that is installed, but it doesnt accept my login nad password.
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Ah, I see your point. Thankfully, this can be remedied if you have either ADB set up, the app Terminal Emulator, or both. What do you have?
I have none of it. Whats more straight forward to do?
bremenpl said:
I have none of it. Whats more straight forward to do?
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I'd say Terminal Emulator, but that's yet another app that you need non-market permission to install.
ADB it is, then. PM me for extensive installation instructions.
I bought one of these for my mom hoping it wouldn't be so well locked down. Has anyone managed to change their launcher from the default Amazon(Ad-laden) launcher? Sideloaded Nova but no dice there.
While Nova runs fine you can't replace the amazon launcher. I believe it was possible on pre 5.1.1 fire OS. Until we get root we'll just have make do.
If you're interested in changing the default firelauncher without rooting your device, please take a quick peak at my thread discussing the possibilties.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8...zon-fire-hd-8-10-remove-firelauncher-t3286646
If you are currently rooted, which as of today is not possible on HD 8 & HD 10, you simply delete the com.amazon.firelauncher.apk in /system/priv-apps/com.amazon.firelauncher/, you will need to boot into fastboot and remount the system as rw if I am correct.
I hope this helps . Again, please check my thread for non-root information, it is currently unfinished.
Here is an updated tutorial on how to change the default launcher without rooting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-remove-default-launcher-amazon-fire-t3288192
Edit: Found a second method that is even better!
nyln said:
Here is an updated tutorial on how to change the default launcher without rooting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-remove-default-launcher-amazon-fire-t3288192
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while you're method may work, it's far from optimal.
it's not possible to just rename another launcher and replace the FireOs launcher? i suppose that would be too easy.
if it were my tablet, i'd be more inclined to play around with it. unfortunately, my mom is content enough with it how it is, though i can see it being a beast and would **** around more if it were mine.
hopefully root comes soon. unfortunately, i can't help work towards it.
when all of that is said and done, i'll build a rom and kernel for it, np.
technope said:
while you're method may work, it's far from optimal.
it's not possible to just rename another launcher and replace the FireOs launcher? i suppose that would be too easy.
if it were my tablet, i'd be more inclined to play around with it. unfortunately, my mom is content enough with it how it is, though i can see it being a beast and would **** around more if it were mine.
hopefully root comes soon. unfortunately, i can't help work towards it.
when all of that is said and done, i'll build a rom and kernel for it, np.
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I found a new method that actually works very very well, just run this in adb shell:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
am monitor | while read -r line; do
if [[ $line == *"firelauncher"* ]]
then
[B]am start com.newlauncher.launcher[/B]
fi
done
nyln said:
I found a new method that actually works very very well, just run this in adb shell:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
am monitor | while read -r line; do
if [[ $line == *"firelauncher"* ]]
then
[B]am start com.newlauncher.launcher[/B]
fi
done
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Little bash script like that. I'll give it a try when I have time. Sleek enough, and if effective it's great.
technope said:
Little bash script like that. I'll give it a try when I have time. Sleek enough, and if effective it's great.
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The only downside to the script is when you press the home button, there is a delay of 500ms or so, you see the firelauncher for that time.
It is not nohup or anything so it will stop working when you close adb shell (easy to do yourself, but I am preoccupied at the moment).
Why not root?
So I was actually able to ROOT my kindle fire hd 8 with the kingroot method.
After installing the apk.
Loaded it up let it try to find a root solution and it will not but you can try rooting with the other method and it WORKED for me. Never been so happy!
So after that I loaded adb shell in command prompt and typed "su" to see if I had root and it WORKED again, so I am even more happier!
Now after typing in "su" into command prompt I then typed in,
Code:
pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
and it was successful..
NOTE: you must have another launcher installed before you do this! I had GOLauncher.
The End <3
P.S. I had installed the necessary files from rootjunky's "Amazon Fire Tablet Tool" or also known as installing google play store method..
Any questions hit me up, I have rebooted and still have root and things intact. Haven't had any problems as of yet. WOOT for ROOT
kanderson88 said:
So I was actually able to ROOT my kindle fire hd 8 with the kingroot method.
After installing the apk.
Loaded it up let it try to find a root solution and it will not but you can try rooting with the other method and it WORKED for me. Never been so happy!
So after that I loaded adb shell in command prompt and typed "su" to see if I had root and it WORKED again, so I am even more happier!
Now after typing in "su" into command prompt I then typed in,
Code:
pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
and it was successful..
NOTE: you must have another launcher installed before you do this! I had GOLauncher.
The End <3
P.S. I had installed the necessary files from rootjunky's "Amazon Fire Tablet Tool" or also known as installing google play store method..
Any questions hit me up, I have rebooted and still have root and things intact. Haven't had any problems as of yet. WOOT for ROOT
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After messing around the go launcher ex is a little buggy. I might try another, currently trying to figure out how to get widgets to work and once I do ill let you know the system file.
Any ideas what I should add to the fire os? Current goal is widgets
So after doing some research I believe it won't be possible on the fire cause the system files are missing. From what I've seen I feel like the new 5 the gen tablets are all the same, can't confirm it yet but if so you should be able to follow the instruction given on the kindle 7 5th gen able about booting up into twrp or cm and installing a new Rom. I'm not sure if I want to do this though. Adw launcher feels empty without widgets though
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kanderson88 said:
So after doing some research I believe it won't be possible on the fire cause the system files are missing. From what I've seen I feel like the new 5 the gen tablets are all the same, can't confirm it yet but if so you should be able to follow the instruction given on the kindle 7 5th gen able about booting up into twrp or cm and installing a new Rom. I'm not sure if I want to do this though. Adw launcher feels empty without widgets though
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But do not follow my advice unless you know what your doing. Always back up everything.
kanderson88 said:
After messing around the go launcher ex is a little buggy. I might try another, currently trying to figure out how to get widgets to work and once I do ill let you know the system file.
Any ideas what I should add to the fire os? Current goal is widgets
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I can confirm that with the latest KingRoot apk on my HD8 (5th Generation) the rooting worked. As a launcher I had before Nova and Google Now via Play Store installed. I prefer the Google Now Launcher. The Home button, the Wallpaper and the Widgets are working. Thanks for the hot rooting tip.
schr01 said:
I can confirm that with the latest KingRoot apk on my HD8 (5th Generation) the rooting worked. As a launcher I had before Nova and Google Now via Play Store installed. I prefer the Google Now Launcher. The Home button, the Wallpaper and the Widgets are working. Thanks for the hot rooting tip.
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Does your google play store actually work? I can get it to load but once the front page is loaded, I can't search or get anything else to load on google play. It's just a continuous load. Could you let me know what framework you have. Also I cant get widgets to work on mine. Have Adw and cant get google now to work. If you can I think you should make a posts on the HD 8 and 10 thread letting us know what you did to get where you are now. Anyways I'm going to message you in a lil bit.
So I got google launcher installed and moved it to system app and now widgets work. Only problem I'm facing now is getting google play to stay working. Sometimes log me out or just stops loading traffic to the app. Any ideas? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it but still no.
kanderson88 said:
So I got google launcher installed and moved it to system app and now widgets work. Only problem I'm facing now is getting google play to stay working. Sometimes log me out or just stops loading traffic to the app. Any ideas? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it but still no.
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I had in the past the same problems. After I had uninstalled the complet apk's and reinstalled the following apk's:
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk,
Google Play services_4.0.34 (924341-38).apk,
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk ,
and
Google Play Store 4.4.21.apk,
I had no trouble. The Google Play Store worked now fine on my HD8 with firmware 5.1.1.
Remark: You can download the apk' from this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3yLoupCwoyrSzJEMHc3UTkzam8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
schr01 said:
I had in the past the same problems. After I had uninstalled the complet apk's and reinstalled the following apk's:
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk,
Google Play services_4.0.34 (924341-38).apk,
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk ,
and
Google Play Store 4.4.21.apk,
I had no trouble. The Google Play Store worked now fine on my HD8 with firmware 5.1.1.
Remark: You can download the apk' from this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3yLoupCwoyrSzJEMHc3UTkzam8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
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Thanks. I'm gonna have to try this once I get off work. Thank you again
kanderson88 said:
After messing around the go launcher ex is a little buggy. I might try another, currently trying to figure out how to get widgets to work and once I do ill let you know the system file.
Any ideas what I should add to the fire os? Current goal is widgets
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Please try nova.
schr01 said:
I had in the past the same problems. After I had uninstalled the complet apk's and reinstalled the following apk's:
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk,
Google Play services_4.0.34 (924341-38).apk,
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk ,
and
Google Play Store 4.4.21.apk,
I had no trouble. The Google Play Store worked now fine on my HD8 with firmware 5.1.1.
Remark: You can download the apk' from this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3yLoupCwoyrSzJEMHc3UTkzam8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
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Thanks for supplying the APKs. This should help me as right now infos are jumbled all across this forum and need to be cleaned up a bit.
I'd love to do a nice/clean .bin people can flash after the dust has settled. Hopefully without kingroot. Wish I knew the kingroot devs.
Also, everyone needs to slow down. We have root in a way, but we need to make sure everyone is on the same page. Don't let this forum become a mess.
Right now, it is a huge mess.. The original root thread is smart to post on and maybe the tips and tricks thread. Stop spreading things out too much. We need it all in one place, really
technope said:
Also, everyone needs to slow down. We have root in a way, but we need to make sure everyone is on the same page. Don't let this forum become a mess.
Right now, it is a huge mess.. The original root thread is smart to post on and maybe the tips and tricks thread. Stop spreading things out too much. We need it all in one place, really
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Yeah sorry I'm trying my best to clean up my thread a little and easy to read as much as possible. Also I figured out how to fix google play if it isn't working. Look at tips,Tricks, and the Root thread if anyone is wondering.
Are you someone who just got their Fire TV rooted and don't know exactly what you can do with it being rooted? Or maybe you haven't rooted yet because you are unsure of what you can do with it rooted? Well hopefully i can shed some light on this with a little guide on things to do, along with some tips and tricks.
First let me get started by saying never forget to make a backup of your Fire TV via TWRP before making changes or tweaks. This is not to freak you out or disparage its just good practice ii have learned in rooting devices. I will cover TWRP later.
One of the best things to come along in the rooting world of android is Xposed installer. In short Xposed is a framework apk that allows users to modify/ customize their devices. This is not done by Xposed Installer per say but the modules that you download with in Xposed installer. So i will show how to install it, how to use and modules that will be beneficial use for Fire TV fyi mouse is need to navigate Xposed.
Xposed installation
1. We need to download the following BusyBox a program that most rooted apps are dependent on here Xposed Installer v3.1.5 here along with Xposed Framework x89 sdk22 arm64 here
2. Install BusyBox however you install side loaded apks. Open BusyBox and click the install button on bottom right. On SU prompt screen grant root access. As you should for root apps you install.
3. Install Xposed Installer, there is no need to open after install because without Xposed Framework installed it doesnt work.
4 Place the Xposed v89 zip onto Fire TV internal or external storage is your choice just remember where so you can point TWRP to it.
5 Reboot into TWRP recovery, choose install, point TWRP to the Xposed zip and on right side of options choose install zip. Let TWRP run its script when it says complete simply reboot and voila Xposed is installed. NOTE it is NORMAL for the first boot to take 10 min after Xposed is installed.
Xposed Tutorial and Modules
Open Xposed installer on be careful screen prompt click box to don't show again and ok. The 3 line icon on top left is menu button. Module option is where you can see and activate modules you install. Download option is where we search for and install modules. After you download a module Fire TV will prompt you to install. Note modules wont work until activated and a reboot.
Modules i find beneficial and know are SAFE are the followingBoot Manager- this allows for you to choose what apps start on boot.
RootCloak- this is designed to hide root app detection. Im assuming it still will hide root but could be wrong worth shot right
Xposed Edge- this is the FUN one that allows a fair share customs tweaks. My fav is remapping of remote buttons ie home button goes to alternative launcher, double tap home opens netflix. Which is great for 3rd party remotes that have a lot of buttons. NOTE There is a pro version as well Note- whenever you make changes in edge you may have to reboot for changes to effect.
DISCLAIMER be careful some modules may cause problems like bootloop and worse so research before you install modules to see if they are compatible
Other Apps
These are apps recommended or useful for rooted devices and for Fire TV useADBLink-allows you connect PC t to Fire TV via adb can install apks, push/pull files, run adb shell.
Easy Fire Tools- Android app that connects to Fire TV via adb can install apps from your android device onto Fire TV, transfer files and other features.
Root Explorer- these apps allow you to manage files but also a way to install side loaded apps, find one that is root friendly so you can access system folders if ever needed.
AdBlocker- we all know why we want one for all my rooted phones always been partial to adaway.
Alternative Home Launcher- who does like Fire TV launcher, really Karen of course you would!
TV App Repo and APK Editor- For those who do use alternative launcher i mention these because TV App Repo allows you to make bookmarks into apks. APK Editor to change the icon and name of TVApp Repo apks because the names and icons are generic.
TWRP
Finally the benefits and how to use TWRP. This allows users to make a backup images of device and ability to restore it when **** goes wrong. You can also do a factory reset.
Backup- after you choose backup from main screen choose select storage and choose storage then click swipe to backup. These can take a while to do seemed like 20 mins or so. Whatever storage you chose will be the default storage until you change it. Note- I have a backup image and its size is 4.5gb so id recommend you need some sort of external storage for these. If there is not enough space backup can not be performed.
Restore- performed same way as backup.
Factory Reset- Just wanted to mention don't forget if you do this and have a backup image on Fire TV internal storage you will lose it.
Hope this helps out
@g422
Thanks for the write up!!!
To be honest, the benefits of rooting appear to be somewhat underwhelming, at least, for the Fire TV. Not a single killer feature/application ...
I do know that it is more convenient to have root than not, but appears to be in pretty subtle ways.
My main use is between SmartYouTubeTV, and Netflix. If I fumble through the Amazon launcher, I am there, and life is good!
Am I missing something?
bibikalka said:
Am I missing something?
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
ldeveraux said:
Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
bibikalka said:
Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
I took no offense to your comments bibikalka. I am inclined to agree that there is a limit of what to do with rooted fire tv especially compared to a phone or tablet. I started this thread to give back to xda who has kept my multiple devices over years rooted. Thread was also done in hopes of getting ideas to do and/or sharing of apps that can be helpful especially now that rooting is allowed for the general masses just not those who were able to jump on board early.
ldeveraux said:
I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
#1 reason I root a fire TV box is so I can use large NTFS drives on the USB port.
Can someone point to me how to fix sd card write permissions. I tried xiinternalsd for xposed but when i open it goes to amazon home screen
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
ldeveraux said:
Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
Imho top reasons for it are Xposed Edge Pro, ad blocking via AdAway (if you use the browser) and finally, the updates issue. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Amazon to get crackin and stop the use of certain third-party apps (NIMH is a giveaway)
Edit: forgot one important one, "debloating" the OS, whether by blocking the startup or disabling packages you don't want/need to give more cpu and memory to apps you do
Without root access, it's Amazon's device; with root access, it's now your device.
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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g422 said:
yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
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For a while, updates could be blocked without root, but Amazon fixed that hole:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/disable-ota-fire-stick-t3667978
But! You want to block updates so you don't lose root, so it's a bit circular. If you don't have root, you don't care, and just update as per Amazon otas. Btw, I do have updates blocked on my fire sticks
Anyway, please keep the conversation going! We should develop a good set of must have features which are only available via root.
The main reason I root now is to debloat. Go as barebones as possible in order to improve performance. I kill all possible services that are absolutely unnecessary. I've removed Amazons GUI and use Appstarter. I just like a clean fast experience.
Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
JUSTINMARMER said:
Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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That is 100% incorrect. I see now you have a reading comprehension disability. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you and I empathize.
Obviously root is needed for magisk modules. I suggested an app to help all those without root.
Bless your heart.
!! deprecated !!
0815hoffi said:
FireTV-Settings 3.0 Mod Root works on Tank and Mantis without Amazon Launcher
based on https://github.com/rainman74/FireTV-Settings/releases
install as normal APK.
Root is needed.
NewSettingsGerRoot.apk = German
NewSettingsEngRoot.apk = English
FireTV-SettingsGer.zip = Android Studio Zip German
FireTV-SettingsEng.zip = Android Studio Zip English
Feel free to customize it for whatever works best for you! ...
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Ok so the apk file is unnecessary with root since the zip is in charge of that correct? This is actually interesting considering that the Amazon Launcher being disabled with root therefore losing functionality to accessing settings unless you were to use adb commands.
Edit: the apk was supposed to be installed, works 100%
Skel40 said:
Ok so the apk file is unnecessary with root since the zip is in charge of that correct? This is actually interesting considering that the Amazon Launcher being disabled with root therefore losing functionality to accessing settings unless you were to use adb commands.
Edit: the apk was supposed to be installed, works 100%
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Questions...
So does the Zip need to be flashed?
Then install the APK?
Is the Amazon launcher disable by doing this, or do I have to disable that myself?
Can you easily remove it?
The Zip file is for customize.
SourceCode for Android Studio.
You must disable it .
OK so disable
com.amazon.tv.launcher
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1. install APK
2. Flash zip ( for customize if you want)
3. disable launcher
The zip, what does it modify and how do you go back?
Sorry for the questions, just want to know what to expect if i have an issue...
Install other Launcher.
For mantis maybe you need FTVLaunchX to start the alternate Launcher.
#adb shell pm disable com.amazon.tv.launcher
Install apk to access the settings without amazon Launcher.
The Zip the SourceCode to build apk.
I hope it is understandable now
Thanks bro, this works perfect with ATV Launcher 0.1.2 now i can access amazon built-in apps on 4k stick.
Thanks for this.
Couple of queries:
Lots of icons on my custom launcher. But all start off at sleep. Is this normal? If so why so many icons?
The command to disable the amazon launcher is not working and I do have root. Any ideas?
Edit: Not to worry about the above. I found a new version that gives me just the one icon
Also found the instructions to delete the amazon launcher so that is good.
Only problem that some might have is installing new apps from the amazon marketplace (or whatever they call it).
Any ideas about how to do this?
Use this Version.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82368799&postcount=1
Amazon Market is not working.
You must sideload the apps.
Also you can push the apps over the Amazon Website to your Stick.
App Updates should be installed automatic.
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Use this Version.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82368799&postcount=1
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Thanks for that.
I manage a lot of these sticks. Most I know the Amazon accounts for so will use the web site to push to them if they request new apps.
I will ask for the other account details but if they wont provide them I will send them to the website to install themselves if they want new apps.
It seems Amazon pushed out a new prime Video app today (or I was told about it today) that asks it you want to install it.
Was told it no longer works with this setup if it is installed. Was fine yesterday and no prompt to update then.
Might be a problem with the Prime Video app in general and not this setup, but all my sticks are running these fixes now.
Just tested on one and it is true. Trying to open Prime Video does nothing. Tried both the icons for it (one never worked but now both do not).
Will see if I can roll it back (once I find the original apk).
Thanks for this. So nice not to see the Amazon Launcher at all now.