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Ive posted this tread 2 let people know that with T-Mobiles new 3g upgrade for all of their radios the data is enough 2 play cod4 and cod6 on any desktop or lappy.. its about 15-200kbps per second down needed and 3-80kbps up 2 get smooth playin.. and the ping should be under 200 (i get around 150)works best in 3g and should get 3 out of 4 bars in wireless strength, bty.... edge is unplayable ... SO if you got an android phone with tether usb or wireless ur in the game see you there...... ((GSH))*GOONZ look for me...
SPEEDTEST -
DOWN MAX -848 kbps
UP MAX- 369 kbps
PING AVRG - 150ish
wrong section and not exactly a great idea anyway - good luck explaining the data usage to TMO when you go way over and they ask why
Using Wi-Fi tether and the wireless G adapter for xbox 360 I have been able to play COD4 with no lag over my T-Mobile 3G connection which in Portland OR is about 1800 kbps down to 350 kbps up. Not sure where this falls under development but I agree it is cool being able to use my G1 for something so advanced.
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wrong section and not exactly a great idea anyway - good luck explaining the data usage to TMO when you go way over and they ask why
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unlimited data plan.... hhmm it is going to be a little hard to go over the limit on this one
It may be the wrong section but ive been doing this since mod6 came out , when iam done playin which most of the time is about 4-5 hours a day through the phone its about 400-500mb and thats nothing.. you use max down and up when browsing ... this is not an idea pal.. people can do this.... just make sure u got unlimited data plan. iam here 2 let them know..peace chicken grease.
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unlimited data plan.... hhmm it is going to be a little hard to go over the limit on this one
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While yes it is unlimited, they cap you at about (5?)gb- after that say hello to edge. I'm also pretty sure that if you go look in the contract there's probably something like "If you use an unusual amount of data, then we are able to charge you $xx for xxgb"
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unlimited data plan.... hhmm it is going to be a little hard to go over the limit on this one
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I've been told ur unlimited=10GB/month so have fun paying for w/e u go over
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While yes it is unlimited, they cap you at about (5?)gb- after that say hello to edge. I'm also pretty sure that if you go look in the contract there's probably something like "If you use an unusual amount of data, then we are able to charge you $xx for xxgb"
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While there's no clause specifying charges, there is wording stating that they have the right to either throttle you back or disabling your data plan if they believe your use is "detrimental to their network". Yeah...no such thing as "unlimited"
ive posted this in dev cuz i use the the build.trout hack on system/, set hsxpa to 2 and gprsclass to 12 and get no lag... default is 1 & 10.. this allows higher up speeds ,which is what u want. some feed back on what others are using would be nice
and ping of 150ish? that unplayable for.....40 is high for me
10gb max????? dudes thats b.s , i download movies ,games off pretome.net and go passed 10gb in a work week.. bty idk if this helps but iam on that prepaid no contract **** so idk, i opened this up 2 let em know, not get ***** at k? happy gaming
i believe they cut your speed when you go over 1gb and cut your data at 2 or 3
unlimited has NEVER meant unlimited in internet terms
they quote fair usage when you try to give em hell about it
and they can pull the plug if data exceeds an amount they see plausible for a mobile phone following the TnCs
both TMO UK and US work the same way - even putting that you cant use IM over data in there (so you use their sms based IM clients)
read your contract, they have you by the nuts
Not true. I have called and checked with tmobile and there isn't any cap with the unlimited data plan. The only way you would get charge more is if you go outside of the US and use data.
yeap you guys are right. Quote from T-mobile terms and conditions:
1. Permissible and Prohibited Uses
Your Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, tethering your device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted.
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hmm...prepay and they dont screw you for it...il keep that in mind
the ping is kinda high and lower is always better yes but please note that the data does not get over used in 1 hour i used 24mb down and 7mb up...... so around 30 mb for 1 hour ...you do the math.. wireless tether tells you how much youve used... ive been doing this for about a year now...i just figured a few monthes ago it was enough 2 play ..thats all people
I just called tmobile and there is a 10gb cap... I am on the no contract unlimited plan
anyway... looks like the mods are slow tonight
anyone else report and request moved?
next time, please, questions go in the QnA
questions about using things that have been developed are still questions
garok89 said:
anyway... looks like the mods are slow tonight
anyone else report and request moved?
next time, please, questions go in the QnA
questions about using things that have been developed are still questions
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Not really a question, more of a general topic
garok89 said:
anyway... looks like the mods are slow tonight
anyone else report and request moved?
next time, please, questions go in the QnA
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Doesnt mikey or ivan mod usually move the threads?
I dont think sterison comes to this section, usually found in themes section.
Anyway back on topic, i always lose 3G so this is a No-Go for me.
I have a G1. My wife has a T-Mo BB Pearl.
We want to buy the nexus one outright and put her sim in it.
Can I call and have them move her line to my plan and switch me to the even more plus (unlimited).
Seems like a way to avoid the individual plan only TMo is doing. I mean, they would never even know she had the N1 right?
You can just put the sim in and it should work out of the box with whatever plan she had (or is being switched to). They generally don't care what plan she's on, but the data plan may be device specific. I don't think there's a different rate for the android internet vs BB internet.
that should work but im not 100%...
well, the tricky part is that she used to do PR for T-Mo and for the past 3 years we have had a completely free, unlimited BB. Seriously, it has unlimited data/voice/anything.
I was concerned that she may lose this when putting her sim in the Nexus, but like you guys said... seems like T Mo nor the sim card would know the wiser.
Really just want to get her into android and have a nexus in my house.
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I have a G1. My wife has a T-Mo BB Pearl.
We want to buy the nexus one outright and put her sim in it.
Can I call and have them move her line to my plan and switch me to the even more plus (unlimited).
Seems like a way to avoid the individual plan only TMo is doing. I mean, they would never even know she had the N1 right?
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I work for T-mobile so I can clarify this pretty easily.
You mentioned corperate discount for the BB plan, unfortunately if you get an N1 you'll lose that. The problem lies in that the BB data and Android data are defined as two different types of data on tmobile, and while it may work for a little while you'd still have some problems. (my boss has to do this on occasion when switching between his g1/cliq/mytouch and his unlocked bb storm)
You'd have no problem changing the plan over, but if you wanted to keep it free, you may have some issues. (You might be able to convince them to give you the android plan free, since it was a gifted bb thing?)
Since it's on the even more plus, just go in on the last day of your close date (bill is due one day, close date is generally a couple days later, check with #225# and 'due by' is the date you need to go in, before you pay your bill) Have them change the plan then and you'll only have to pay next month's bill including the new data plan, and your services would take effect the next day with all the new stuff.
if you have additional q's feel free to pop me an email at jareduarunorudu[at]gmail.com (I may not see the thread)
Hmm, did not realize there was a difference in BB data and android data.
That could severely limit what I am trying to do as I do not want to do anything to lose her "free" phone and its service.
So, you are saying the Nexus could not get data from the sim card, because her sim card has BB data plan on it, right?
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Hmm, did not realize there was a difference in BB data and android data.
That could severely limit what I am trying to do as I do not want to do anything to lose her "free" phone and its service.
So, you are saying the Nexus could not get data from the sim card, because her sim card has BB data plan on it, right?
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It's a weird plan thing =\ BB's always been separate though, even before all the new smartphones came out because of their enterprise push email service.. it was always listed differently on accounts lol. Now it's listed as total internet for normal smartphones, BB data and then android data's separate =P
The first thing I'd say try would be to simply take her sim out, put it in your g1, and see how far you get. if it works, it should work the same way with the N1... Worst case scenario is you get the n1, it works for 3-4 weeks then quits working, you call customer care and yell at them until they give you free android data heh.
Gotta love GSM.
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It's a weird plan thing =\ BB's always been separate though, even before all the new smartphones came out because of their enterprise push email service.. it was always listed differently on accounts lol. Now it's listed as total internet for normal smartphones, BB data and then android data's separate =P
The first thing I'd say try would be to simply take her sim out, put it in your g1, and see how far you get. if it works, it should work the same way with the N1... Worst case scenario is you get the n1, it works for 3-4 weeks then quits working, you call customer care and yell at them until they give you free android data heh.
Gotta love GSM.
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you make this sound like this isnt your first run in with having to give someone free android data?
ive still got my 5.99 internet (works with N1) i have little faith in it lasting in the long run but are you saying that if i raise my voice enough they will upgrade me for no cost? lol
I threw her sim card in my g1 and it worked perfectly.
Ordered the nexus last night.
Thanks for all of the help.
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you make this sound like this isnt your first run in with having to give someone free android data?
ive still got my 5.99 internet (works with N1) i have little faith in it lasting in the long run but are you saying that if i raise my voice enough they will upgrade me for no cost? lol
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Good to hear it worked!
Haha no, it's not my first time. Depending on how you yell, I've seen people given free $300 phones just to stay, but it depends on how you do it, who you get, if they're foreign and a few other things lol.
Due to a messup by a rep I had one customer keep coming back and doing the same thing 3 months in a row for free unlimited texting on their family account on flexpay haha.
since it did work I'd say that if it stops working say it's been working fine for ages and the plan is grandfathered, make it free because it was working perfectly fine before and it's not your fault that the system defines it as two different things when it's still just data
Good luck! hope all goes well
Sorry for the late reply, I had never seen the notification thing on XDA before lol. (still relatively new to posting a bunch)
Hello,
I didnt know where to put this question but i am considering buying this phone. Does anyone know if it will work with FIDO (Canada)?
Thanks.
It works on Rogers so it should work on Fido as well
Yes, I am using it on fido and it is working perfectly!!
3 things:
1- download the sms time fix (the sms received will be -4hours unless you download this from the marketplace because how rogers/fido does thier time stamping)
2- take name display out as some reported that it doesn't play nice with atrix when you receive a call from a landline. (I never have that problem because noone calls me from landline)
3 - I am on the AT&T atrix and it will warn me when i reboot the phone that I am on roaming network, once you click the notification, your phone does not complain
I am on Rogers with the ATT Atrix. I just had to load the APN settings and now I'm good, data and calls are perfect.
HungryEel, I did not test sms, but I will look into your fix.
It WILL work with fido I brought the ATT from US and unlock it. Now I am using it in Canada with Fido. Really great run H+
I'm on Rogers and didn't need any SMS fix. I did call in to ask for "name display" to be "excluded" from my account though - this fixed the Pay Phone listing from coming up on incoming calls though.
+1 worked fine on Fido... unfortunately when you unlock this phone it voids the bell warranty so i have to go through the Motorola service centre in Richmond...
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Hey Guys, since this is a topic about using in canada on rogers/fido network, I have two questions.
where did ya'll get the phone unlock from? and if someone can tell me how much it would cost?
and does anyone know if the 6GB dataplan from rogers/fido still possible to get?
i know for sure that Android eats up the data very quickly, i have opted for 1 gb data from rogers and I am always either almost finished with or over the data. i like the Atrix, am definitely picking up the phone by this saturday. Don't want to carry around 2 phones, if the 6gb plan is not available, thinking of leaving rogers as it is too expensive.
any suggestions? help much appreciated.
I used Cellunlock.com there are some coupons floating around for 50% off.
For your Rogers plan, you really should read this thread. I had a crappy plan and after reading that thread and doing my homeworks, I called retention 3 times and ended up with a ridiculously nice plan. From what I know, the 6Gb plan is dead and the only way to get one is to have a grandfathered corporate plan.
How are you using so mutch data ? you should try using wifi ... (or opera mini)
Oh and don't forget to call retention, maybe they can do something for you.
noxlord said:
I used Cellunlock.com there are some coupons floating around for 50% off.
For your Rogers plan, you really should read this thread. I had a crappy plan and after reading that thread and doing my homeworks, I called retention 3 times and ended up with a ridiculously nice plan. From what I know, the 6Gb plan is dead and the only way to get one is to have a grandfathered corporate plan.
How are you using so mutch data ? you should try using wifi ...
Oh and don't forget to call retention, maybe they can do something for you.
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Thanks a lot for the info. I will try CellUnlock.com.
I will call Rogers Retention people and see what happens. I have tried that trick in past and have got response such as "Oh you want to cancel your plan, sure, pay the money to us and F... O..." basically. Hence I am a little hesitant. But hey, there is no reason why I shouldn't try calling them again.
Why do I use it so much? Cuz my job requires me to... I travel through GTA a lot, and because I have a smartphone, I use it for pretty much everything from checking my emails to making phone calls to use it as a GPS.
creativedevil said:
Thanks a lot for the info. I will try CellUnlock.com.
I will call Rogers Retention people and see what happens. I have tried that trick in past and have got response such as "Oh you want to cancel your plan, sure, pay the money to us and F... O..." basically. Hence I am a little hesitant. But hey, there is no reason why I shouldn't try calling them again.
Why do I use it so much? Cuz my job requires me to... I travel through GTA a lot, and because I have a smartphone, I use it for pretty much everything from checking my emails to making phone calls to use it as a GPS.
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read the thread, if you are into a contract, there is a new rules: they can only charge you what you own them on your subsidised phone.
use a line like "I really like your service, but since it's SOOO mutch cheaper elsewere, there is no reason for me to stay..."
noxlord said:
read the thread, if you are into a contract, there is a new rules: they can only charge you what you own them on your subsidised phone.
use a line like "I really like your service, but since it's SOOO mutch cheaper elsewere, there is no reason for me to stay..."
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To add to this, remind the CSR that you want to be compelled to stay but in such a competitive market place you need to look at all avenues (the mitigating factor being what you pay, you want a better plan for what you pay!).
Do make sure to up sell the benefits of staying with your current provider and they'll happily recline, making small talk and keeping the discussion constructive and positive. They'll "review" things and find either a feature they can add, a discount that can be applied, etc. Just remain optimistic and act as though you're so torn between sticking with them or going with a risky new provider.
This usually seems to yield good results with me. I've worked in Retention departments and can sniff a promo hopper from a mile away. But if you're a nice promo hopper, whatever, I'll give you a good deal. Just be polite and a good sport. They'll try hooking you up where they can. Usually..
(if not, tell them thanks and that you'll call back after some review)
Thank you so much for the input guys... Real Helpful tips... I will try all the options mentioned above and will get back with some results...
Awesome, man. Let us know how it goes.
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Awesome, man. Let us know how it goes.
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Well guys, the tips above didn't help in the first try. I called them, got transferred to retention, answer was same old ****ed up response... Oh, we are sorry to see you leaving, let me just remind you that you will have to pay Rogers to end your contract, when do you want to end the contract?
I will try calling them again next week and see if my luck works out this time...
Again, thanks a ton. I have my Atrix working superb and flawlessly.
http://www.google.com/search?source...wn&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=fb5bbcd66868c58a
I have found out through several posts and news articles that wifi calling as of yesterday is now free. It does not count towards your minutes anymore. To enable it, you have to call or chat. From my personal experience, the reps are NOT trained on this yet. They will tell you that your full of it. Force them to look into it, and they will find whatever it is in there little knowledge base that tells them that it is the truth. After fighting with Jake on Tmobile chat for the past 20 minutes, he finally found it and has enabled it on my account. I have read similar experiences.
This post is to let you know that it is REAL. You HAVE to contact tmobile to have it activated. Post your experiences so that maybe it will help the next person who has to call and deal with a rep that knows nothing of this subject.
EDIT: SOME TIPS
Apparently speaking to someone in billing is the way you have to go.
Alledgedly it is reported you must have the Even More or Even More Plus plans.
Doing an online chat has had a higher success rate of the rep actually doing there job and looking it up vs. a phone call.
Michele: I have also heard through the grapevine that wifi calling is now free and does not count against your minutes, but i have to specifically ask for it. I would like to do that please.
~Jake H: Unfortunately that is incorrect.
Michele: Alright i can send you multiple links from all over the web of people who have called/chatted and got the feature turned on.
Michele: Not to mention the tmobile press release stating so.
~Jake H: Though wi-fi calling is an option on some phones it does still go towards your minutes.
Michele: But go ahead
~Jake H: Please allow me 5 minutes to review our news archive to see if it was updated with out my knowledge.
Michele: This change just happened yesterday. I have read that many reps are not even aware of the change and have not been trained on it yet.
Michele: thank you sir
Michele: Please understand that none of my animosity is directed towards you personally jake.
~Jake H: I understand Michele.
~Jake H: I've found some information about what you are stating. I reading it right now.
Michele: Take your time sir
~Jake H: I have found that feature.
Michele: Alright
~Jake H: Would you like me to add it to both phones?
Michele: Yes please
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it doesn't matter.
Most ppl are going into the Unltd calling PP anyway.
Here in Puerto Rico, I can have all unltd with roaming all over USA, for $74.99, That's $5 cheaper than T-Mob USA. (That's single line, for 2 lines it would be $69.99 for unltd talk [+ $34.99 for unltd data and unltd sms/mms] so basically, for $70 all together[for one of the 2 lines] I can get everything unltd).
I have 600 anytime minutes, and everything else is unltd.
Incoming, mobile2mobile, weekends, nights. So I pay $64.99 for those 600 mins, unltd data and unltd sms/mms.
So, yes...it is good that Tmo is offering this new srvc, it really doesn't affect me.
I wasent able to get it. The rep refused to even look it up for me. Can you please give me a link on tmobile that says they will do it?
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I wasent able to get it. The rep refused to even look it up for me. Can you please give me a link on tmobile that says they will do it?
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Dont have the exact link. But check this out...
http://www.google.com/search?source...wn&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=fb5bbcd66868c58a
It's obviously real.
Oh i know its real. But they straight up refused to go look it up for me. They asked. "What are you sources?". And i listed Engadget, gizmodo, boy genius report. and all they said was. "Well those arnt official sources and probably arnt true".
Im going to call back and try again though with someone else
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Oh i know its real. But they straight up refused to go look it up for me. They asked. "What are you sources?". And i listed Engadget, gizmodo, boy genius report. and all they said was. "Well those arnt official sources and probably arnt true".
Im going to call back and try again though with someone else
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Hell ya linkmaster. The actual tmobile press release I BELIEVE was leaked, and not supposed to be publically available. So i dont think you could actually use that as a source. I do find it kind of crummy that they are making people jump through hoops to get this instead of just making it automatic for everyone... that's not usually t mobiles style. Maybe in time it will be and they are just rolling it out for people who specifically ask for it.
This is what I copied into the chat window when they told me I was full of it...
Currently, placing calls over Wi-Fi deducts from a customer’s in-plan minutes. Effective5/13, a new feature will launch that will allow customers with capable phones the ability to place calls over Wi-Fi without deducting from in-plan minutes! This is not only a great value, being FREE, but can help customers who experience coverage issues in areas that Wi-Fi is available.
This new feature is available to all Even More and Even More Plus Postpaid rate plans for customers with Wi-Fi Calling capable handsets.
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And then said "So are you not aware of this?"
They asked me, "Where are you getting this information?"
Me, http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-unlimited-wi-fi-calling-feature-going-live-tomorrow/
"They have an internal document that states this"
The next response I was givin was "please give me 2 minutes to look up this information"
Afterwards, I'm assuming she spoke with her supervisor cause I had absolutely no problems getting the feature added to my account after that...
Hope this helps you all putting those lazy CSR's in their place!
called and the rep said that it was already a feature and that she did not have to activate it for me ... i then replied are you sure??
she proceeded to tell me that she was well informed regarding free wifi calling.. i told her to note that on my account because i will be using this to place calls and any minutes counted towards my plan will be credited back to me....
take it for what it's worth...
FYI: family plan even more
update: seemed fishy... chatted online and the rep told me there was no such thing... blah... i'll try again later
bone$ said:
called and the rep said that it was already a feature and that she did not have to activate it for me ... i then replied are you sure??
she proceeded to tell me that she was well informed regarding free wifi calling.. i told her to note that on my account because i will be using this to place calls and any minutes counted towards my plan will be credited back to me....
take it for what it's worth...
FYI: family plan/ 1000 mins
update: seemed fishy... chatted online and the rep told me there was no such thing... blah... i'll try again later
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Apparently you gotta get someone who is willing to do the legwork and look it up. It's obviously not in there main system and they have not been trained about it whatsoever. I kissed ass to my rep for a good 10 minutes about other issues before you see the chat conversation i posted above. Maybe that helped.
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You are currently at position number 2 in the queue.
All agents are currently busy. Please stand by.
You are currently at position number 2 in the queue.
An agent will be with you in a moment. Thank you for your patience.
You have been connected to _Nikolai B.
Astriaos: I'm seeing lots of talk online about the rollout of unlimited wifi calling and was wondering if it is going to be automatically activated for all customers.
_Nikolai B: Hi A , welcome to T-Mobile live Chat. I’m _Nikolai and I will be happy to assist you. Please give me a moment to review your question.
Astriaos: take your time
_Nikolai B: Thank you.
_Nikolai B: Currently at this time, we as T-Mobile do not have that information. There has been a lot of talk about the wifi but as of now unfortunately nothing is set and stoned yet.
Astriaos: yeah i kinda figured. Most all the rumors I've seen can be backtracked to this article http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-unlimited-wi-fi-calling-feature-going-live-tomorrow/
Astriaos: but you guys can't substantiate leaked internal documents, I understand.
_Nikolai B: Correct that is one one of the documents. Basically on our end, we receive notification when that will take place and if it will and things like that.
Astraos: so essentially you just haven't gotten the memo from the head office as to if/when this will be rolling out for really real.
_Nikolai B: Correct.
Astriaos: I gotchya. I was just curious cause i have the only phone at my place and this would really help keep me from shattering through my minute limit with three people using the phone.
_Nikolai B: I completely understand.
Astriaos: Cool well thanks for the information man. I appreciate your candor.
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This is the second rep I've spoken to about this but since I am bored and have nothing to do I am going to keep hammering away at this & see if anyone says any different.
Edit: SUCCESS~! You need to get an online rep in "Billing and Plans"
~Barb N: Welcome to T-Mobile Chat service A. My name is Barb N and for your reference my rep ID is 1320337. How are you doing today?
Astriaos: I'm great thanks!
Astriaos: Yourself?
~Barb N: I am very well thank you.
Astriaos: Delightful.
Astriaos: I've been hearing a lot of talk lately about unlimited wifi calling & was wondering if I can get it activated on my account.
~Barb N: I will be happy to discuss our free WiFi calling feature with you. May I ask what type of phone you are using?
Astriaos: HTC g2. Wifi calling works already and is turned on. However I am specifically talking about this: "Currently, placing calls over Wi-Fi deducts from a customer’s in-plan minutes. Effective5/13, a new feature will launch that will allow customers with capable phones the ability to place calls over Wi-Fi without deducting from in-plan minutes! This is not only a great value, being FREE, but can help customers who experience coverage issues in areas that Wi-Fi is available."
Astriaos: here is the source http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/t-mobile-unlimited-wi-fi-calling-feature-going-live-tomorrow/
Astriaos: can you help me in this matter? I've spoken to a couple of reps already who are generally stating that they have gotten no internal documentation on this feature.
~Barb N: Yes the free WiFi calling feature was released today and allows you to make calls over WiFi without using your plan minutes. I will be happy to add the feature to your account for you.
Astriaos: Thanks! I really appreciate it.
Astriaos: Will I get a text confirming this change to my account?
~Barb N: I have added the feature to your line and you will receive a text message conformation within 2 hours.
Astriaos: Excellent you're super duper. Thank you so much, I'll be forwarding this good news along to XDA along with your refID. You've been super helpful. have a great one!
~Barb N: Thank you for chatting in today. I hope you have a great weekend.
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Alright well there you have it. Just make sure you're talking to a plan and billing rep rather than one an unrelated department.
The feature is NOT automatically enabled!!
You can use WiFi Calling whenever you want but they HAVE to add the feature for you to use it for free.
Just because they noted it into your account does not mean you will have those minutes credited back to you.
I would advise you to call back or start up another chat with them and get them to enable the feature because you WILL be charged minutes and you WILL have to pay for them.
Refer to my previous post to obtain the information you need to get them to feel stupid for being lazy...
So far, there has been at least 2 of us (including myself) who have had a rep enable the feature for us. It can be done because it has been done (obviously)...
I have added some of the tips you guys have mentioned into the OP. Hopefully it will save someone some time
philosophics said:
The feature is NOT automatically enabled!!
You can use WiFi Calling whenever you want but they HAVE to add the feature for you to use it for free.
Just because they noted it into your account does not mean you will have those minutes credited back to you.
I would advise you to call back or start up another chat with them and get them to enable the feature because you WILL be charged minutes and you WILL have to pay for them.
Refer to my previous post to obtain the information you need to get them to feel stupid for being lazy...
So far, there has been at least 2 of us (including myself) who have had a rep enable the feature for us. It can be done because it has been done (obviously)...
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called back and asked for plan and billing rep... the minute i talked about wifi calling she knew right away what i was going to ask... went over with me the whole calls only under wifi is free... after that she enabled it under my account...
this just rocks! first the 3g booster a few months back and now unlimited wifi calling.... yeah!!
thanks to the OP and to all that helped!
Your welcome bone$. I'm glad that at least us here at xda in the "know" can take advantage of what we are already paying for
Yes you have to push them to find it. They don't know about it.
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So I think chating on the internet is way more effective then calling. I called two times and nothing happend. But I finally got it.
Here is the transcript
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to ~Matthew S.
Linkmaster_6: Unlimited Free Wifi Calling
~Matthew S: Hello Linkmaster_6. Welcome to T-Mobile Chat service . My name is Matt S. and for your reference my rep ID is 13-20614. First, please allow me one moment to review the information you have provided.
~Matthew S: Thank you for your patience. I can certainly look into this for you. How may I assist you with Free Wi-Fi Calling today?
Linkmaster_6: Yes I have been reading alot about this unlimited wifi calling online and i was wondring if i could get it activated on my account
~Matthew S: I understand. I will look into this for you right away.
Linkmaster_6: Alright thank you
~Matthew S: You're welcome. Thanks for waiting. I can certainly add the Free Wi-Fi Calling feature to your account. First, what is the make and model of your phone?
Linkmaster_6: I have a t-mobile G2
~Matthew S: Excellent! This is indeed a Wi-Fi Calling capable device. I can certainly add this feature to your account. Before I do, I need you to confirm your E-911 address (where you would typically like Emergency Services deployed were there ever such a need; I certainly hope there is not).
Linkmaster_6: You mean like my address?
~Matthew S: Yes, that is correct.
Linkmaster_6: Oh ok
Linkmaster_6: my home address blaa blaa blaa
~Matthew S: Thanks so much! Would you please allow me 3 to 5 minutes to add this for you?
Linkmaster_6: Sure no Problem
~Matthew S: Thanks so much.
~Matthew S: Thanks for waiting, Linkmaster_6. I have added the Free Wi-Fi Calling feature to your account. It may take up to 2 hours to take effect and you may receive a free SMS informing you of the account changes. Is there anything else I can do for you today?
Linkmaster_6: Nope thank you so much. I talked to two other people on the phone and they had no idea what i was talking about. Thank you very much sir you are a scholar and a gentleman
~Matthew S: You're very welcome. Thanks for the compliment I really appreciate that. Thank you for contacting T-Mobile Chat, have a wonderful weekend Linkmaster_6!
Linkmaster_6: You too ^_^
Linkmaster_6: Good bye
Your session has ended. You may now close this window.
Another success story!
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I called and the guy was like you want mobile hotspot for 9.99. Then I had to force him to did deeper. Anyone get any sms confirmation or anything about it.
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I tried the chat and also tried to get a rep from plans and billing. She tried to do some research but could not come up with anything. I decide to not keep pressing on and just give it some time before I try again. Then, all the reps will know about it.
Have not got an sms. I think its still way too new to be part of the automated system.
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Too much chatter across multiple threads...
I found a temporary solution. I ported my number to AT&T. Thus far, coverage is fine, data speeds are disappointing only in the sense that where I am right now, I am getting less than the 8 Mbps Cricket would cap me at.* Cricket is apparently now owned by AT&T and now offers unlimited talk, text, and 20 GBs of LTE for $60.
My data worked upon activation.* It seemed my AT&T rep had to alter the IMEI associated with my prepaid account to get phone calls working.* Don't know if there will be any implications, but in the hour I have been with AT&T, some root apps (including Ultimate Dynamic Navbar, without which I have no Navbar) have force closed for the first time. Seems like coincidence but I guess not? This is happening regularly now, X many minutes after boot, and bluetooth is being disabled as well.
I hope that T-Mo gets this straightened out, unless AT&T really impresses me, I look forward to hopefully switching back to the $30 Wal-Mart 5 GB plan.
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thref23 said:
Too much chatter across multiple threads...
I found a temporary solution. I ported my number to AT&T. Thus far, coverage is fine, data speeds are disappointing only in the sense that where I am right now, I am getting less than the 8 Mbps Cricket would cap me at.* Cricket is apparently now owned by AT&T and now offers unlimited talk, text, and 20 GBs of LTE for $60.
My data worked upon activation.* It seemed my AT&T rep had to alter the IMEI associated with my prepaid account to get phone calls working.* Don't know if there will be any implications, but in the hour I have been with AT&T, some root apps (including Ultimate Dynamic Navbar, without which I have no Navbar) have force closed for the first time. Seems like coincidence but I guess not? This is happening regularly now, X many minutes after boot, and bluetooth is being disabled as well.
I hope that T-Mo gets this straightened out, unless AT&T really impresses me, I look forward to hopefully switching back to the $30 Wal-Mart 5 GB plan.
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
Some more info on this can be found here
ipetitions.com/petition/let-us-call-because-our-tablets-are-made-to-call
Ive been using xda for a while now but didn't really have a good enough reason to creat an account but......since im new and can't post links hopefully you can addbthe http stuff
I really hope this can get cleared up soon a 500$ phone with practically the same features as a flip phone........ Smh
Any update?
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
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Any luck with the ticket you opened? You might consider posting the ticket number both here and in the t-mobile support forum so that anyone with the same issue can easily contact t-mobile and reference that ticket. As you said there is power in numbers!
montp said:
Any luck with the ticket you opened? You might consider posting the ticket number both here and in the t-mobile support forum so that anyone with the same issue can easily contact t-mobile and reference that ticket. As you said there is power in numbers!
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Any update on this? My billing cycle started today and I think I got my internet pulled too. Called tech support and they said they don't know what the problem is. They said they elevated my ticket to a engineer and should hear back from them in 3 days. :crying:
just port the number to Metro its' the same network and just $10 more for unlimited you can always port the number back if t-mobile fix this issue.
Tweeted at Legere and Tmobile help and now I'm sitting on the phone with a tech rep. Let's see what happens. Seems like such an easy thing to switch and the irony is the paying customers and getting screwed and are jumping ship to pacify the freeloaders. I'm in love with huge phones and this is the First tablet with phone capabilities that plays nice with us carriers. I'm prepared to jump ship over this.
SO far she keeps insisting that it will work fine its it has the phone capabilities and i have the proper rate plan. She keeps putting me on hold....
There's someone who clocks into work 9-5 at t-mobile who can fix this issue with very little trouble, just have to locate that person.
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I work for T-Mobile and have also have the same issues with my Z3tc I, being a store manager, have limited resources available to me but i plan to submit a ticket in hopes of resolving this issue, it would help if i had multiple issues to report however. If you folks are willing to help me out with this (power in numbers as they say) i think we may have a chance of getting a fix, what i need from each of you is your T-mobile telephone number that you've been using your Z3TC on and i can submit this ticket. Email your name and phone# to [email protected] and I'll do my best
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So, The tech rep I just spoke to says that she can't open a ticket for me to send to the engineers until there's physically a problem. SO, I'm going to pick it up tomorrow and start the process. Anything happen with your ticket? Am I wasting my time?
I'm still waiting on a call back. Day 2 with no Internet. I told them to call me 24/7. I didn't bother calling today, but you can bet I will again tomorrow. Please, also get it elevated so that they realize this is not an isolated incident. I stopped by at&t today to ask about porting over my number. They said it would take 15 mins. About to jump ship and take my 5 lines on the account with me if I can't get the Internet to work again.
Please keep me updated, I'll keep you updated too.
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I'm still waiting on a call back. Day 2 with no Internet. I told them to call me 24/7. I didn't bother calling today, but you can bet I will again tomorrow. Please, also get it elevated so that they realize this is not an isolated incident. I stopped by at&t today to ask about porting over my number. They said it would take 15 mins. About to jump ship and take my 5 lines on the account with me if I can't get the Internet to work again.
Please keep me updated, I'll keep you updated too.
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The question is, you can't buy this device from a good reputable store with a 14 day no questions asked return policy. Expansys, or Amazon (not fulfilled by amazon) and the place where I'm going to go to in Manhattan are all "you buy it you keep it".
So, should I even go buy this tomorrow... The only way they will submit a ticket is if I actually have the device with the issue but if it turns out no one will fix the problem... I dont want to be stuck with it..
I guess I could always switch carriers but I'm in a family plan where we split the bill each month and the payments on my note 4 are going to come due... Big mess... But maybe that's what I'll do.
Why not just switch to metro though? Why at&t? Metro the exact same coverage. Or so I've heard.
Maybe I'll take the time to check out metros coverage while I wait for the issue to be fixed. Although.. I wonder, people were already working on this 2 months ago,why should I have any impact at all.
Whatever, yeah, let's keep each other updated!
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AirBruce said:
I'm still waiting on a call back. Day 2 with no Internet. I told them to call me 24/7. I didn't bother calling today, but you can bet I will again tomorrow. Please, also get it elevated so that they realize this is not an isolated incident. I stopped by at&t today to ask about porting over my number. They said it would take 15 mins. About to jump ship and take my 5 lines on the account with me if I can't get the Internet to work again.
Please keep me updated, I'll keep you updated too.
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They responded on twitter, let's see if they can do anything... Day 2 with no internet you said, did you just get it or have you had it for a while and it just stopped giving you data?
I wonder if walking into a tmobile store would help too...
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mottyengel said:
They responded on twitter, let's see if they can do anything... Day 2 with no internet you said, did you just get it or have you had it for a while and it just stopped giving you data?
I wonder if walking into a tmobile store would help too...
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I just read through a pretty depressing thread. I'm posting the OP's final depressing post after finally getting through to a tmo vp. You can read through the whole thread too if you like. Seems like the battle is lost at this point, it's over, i just have to decide in a few hours when the store opens if I want to leave tmo over this and go to metro... I've been really happy with tmo up until now...
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86423?start=0&tstart=0
After doing some research I got a hold of a couple of T-Mobile's executive e-mail addresses and typed in detail about what is happening here hoping someone would respond. Today I received a phone call from the office of the Vice president of T-Mobile. I had a detailed conversation about the problem. They said that our device, the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet LTE SGP621 should have never worked as phone with a data plan and T-Mobiles network should have recognized the device as a tablet and not allowed it to work as a phone with a data plan for the few months that it did right away. He also stated that T-Mobile up until I told him was unaware our device existed. He actually had to look up the device. He then went on to explain how the network didn't register the IMEI of the device right away that's why it worked on their network for those few months until the IMEI of the device was registered and classified on their network as a tablet. He didn't actually admit it was the free data for life program but if you understand how network protocols work I don't have to state the obvious. So the bottom line is that T-Mobile doesn't offer the service we are asking for on our devices. The way the network is structured it uses the IMEI number to determine the devices classification and then only allows approved services to be used on that particular device. So the rules on T-Mobiles network work says "Smart phones" are allowed to make phone calls, surf the web, send multimedia text messaging ect. and "Tablets" are only allowed to have a mobile data plan and are incapable of making phone calls. Our device is a phablet but there isn't a phablet classification on T-Mobiles network. Even though our devices will work, have worked, and can work the way we want, it is irrelevant due to the way the network protocols have been written. The industry is somewhat at fault here by not having a specific classification for a device like ours. It really should just be classified as a phone. The world I live in, if a device is capable of making phone calls its a phone end of story. Phones make phone calls, this is kid stuff. So there is no solution to our problem and there never will be one as of right now. So the device is useless in the US for what we bought it for. I would have never bought the LTE version if I knew this was the situation. The service I'm willing to pay for is not offered by any US carrier according to T-Mobile. I find the whole situation funny at this point. Look at it in this perspective, the hardware of our device is identical to the Sony Xperia Z3 that T-Mobile currently offers, the only difference is the size of the screen. and the IMEI number that says its a tablet. You can actually flash the Sony Xperia Z3 operating system onto our devices thats how Identical the hardware is. It's just the IMEI number that defines the devices classification. Overseas this isn't an issue. I'm hoping soon there will be a US carrier offering this service, the first company that does I'm switching to. I think I'm just going to cancel the line and use WiFi for now. I can't believe I spent close to $700 for this device and it's now basically the $400 WiFi version. I'm keeping my T-Mobile account because I'm grandfathered into a very good rate and I'm hoping they will eventually offer the service. but I know for a fact our devices will never work the way they did because of our devices classification. They would only be able to work if T-Mobile changed the networks protocols that classifies the device as either a phone or a tablet, as long as they have that protocol in place we are out of luck. I really don't see them ever getting rid of this classification/rule system on their network. So if they ever do offer a "Phablet" device with the service it will be on T-Mobile branded devices only because those devices will have an IMEI that classifies it as a "Smart phone" or by that time they will have added the new classification of "Phablet".. Good luck to everyone that was having the same issue, I really thought we had a chance at solving the problem because our devices "WORK" on T-Mobiles network perfectly. If anyone knows a carrier willing to provide the service to our devices please let us know.
mottyengel said:
They responded on twitter, let's see if they can do anything... Day 2 with no internet you said, did you just get it or have you had it for a while and it just stopped giving you data?
I wonder if walking into a tmobile store would help too...
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I just read through a pretty depressing thread. I'm posting the OP's final depressing post after finally getting through to a tmo vp. You can read through the whole thread too if you like. Seems like the battle is lost at this point, it's over, i just have to decide in a few hours when the store opens if I want to leave tmo over this and go to metro... I've been really happy with tmo up until now...
https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/86423?start=0&tstart=0
After doing some research I got a hold of a couple of T-Mobile's executive e-mail addresses and typed in detail about what is happening here hoping someone would respond. Today I received a phone call from the office of the Vice president of T-Mobile. I had a detailed conversation about the problem. They said that our device, the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet LTE SGP621 should have never worked as phone with a data plan and T-Mobiles network should have recognized the device as a tablet and not allowed it to work as a phone with a data plan for the few months that it did right away. He also stated that T-Mobile up until I told him was unaware our device existed. He actually had to look up the device. He then went on to explain how the network didn't register the IMEI of the device right away that's why it worked on their network for those few months until the IMEI of the device was registered and classified on their network as a tablet. He didn't actually admit it was the free data for life program but if you understand how network protocols work I don't have to state the obvious. So the bottom line is that T-Mobile doesn't offer the service we are asking for on our devices. The way the network is structured it uses the IMEI number to determine the devices classification and then only allows approved services to be used on that particular device. So the rules on T-Mobiles network work says "Smart phones" are allowed to make phone calls, surf the web, send multimedia text messaging ect. and "Tablets" are only allowed to have a mobile data plan and are incapable of making phone calls. Our device is a phablet but there isn't a phablet classification on T-Mobiles network. Even though our devices will work, have worked, and can work the way we want, it is irrelevant due to the way the network protocols have been written. The industry is somewhat at fault here by not having a specific classification for a device like ours. It really should just be classified as a phone. The world I live in, if a device is capable of making phone calls its a phone end of story. Phones make phone calls, this is kid stuff. So there is no solution to our problem and there never will be one as of right now. So the device is useless in the US for what we bought it for. I would have never bought the LTE version if I knew this was the situation. The service I'm willing to pay for is not offered by any US carrier according to T-Mobile. I find the whole situation funny at this point. Look at it in this perspective, the hardware of our device is identical to the Sony Xperia Z3 that T-Mobile currently offers, the only difference is the size of the screen. and the IMEI number that says its a tablet. You can actually flash the Sony Xperia Z3 operating system onto our devices thats how Identical the hardware is. It's just the IMEI number that defines the devices classification. Overseas this isn't an issue. I'm hoping soon there will be a US carrier offering this service, the first company that does I'm switching to. I think I'm just going to cancel the line and use WiFi for now. I can't believe I spent close to $700 for this device and it's now basically the $400 WiFi version. I'm keeping my T-Mobile account because I'm grandfathered into a very good rate and I'm hoping they will eventually offer the service. but I know for a fact our devices will never work the way they did because of our devices classification. They would only be able to work if T-Mobile changed the networks protocols that classifies the device as either a phone or a tablet, as long as they have that protocol in place we are out of luck. I really don't see them ever getting rid of this classification/rule system on their network. So if they ever do offer a "Phablet" device with the service it will be on T-Mobile branded devices only because those devices will have an IMEI that classifies it as a "Smart phone" or by that time they will have added the new classification of "Phablet".. Good luck to everyone that was having the same issue, I really thought we had a chance at solving the problem because our devices "WORK" on T-Mobiles network perfectly. If anyone knows a carrier willing to provide the service to our devices please let us know.
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That is some F#* King BULL SH!T!!!!!
I'm going to port my number out.
I just called back tech support and they didn't even know what was happening. No one ever seems to know. I'm going to Metro PCS. EFF these s0n's of b!tch3s.
Yup... Yup... I just had a very long conversation with a tech support guy (i gave him all a bunch of different forum thread links to read through) he read everything I showed him and he understood fully. He transferred me w8th details to someone else who again took plenty of time to read through everything including internal T-mobile discussion. He's gonna call me back on Sunday. I left off with him that everyone is jumping ship because of this, including me, all to pacify some freeloaders.
Of course, I'm not delusional. after reading the above thread I realize he's probably gonna get back to me with a sorry, nothing we can do. That's why I'm going to a metro pcs store today to sign up. I'm not porting my number just yet, first I want to test metro and give tmo a little more time. Plus, I have a new note 4 (warranty issue replacing my current note 4) coming which I will then have to pay off when I port my number out so I'm gonna sell. And actually, I'm going to finally port my number to Google voice so I can always jump around and back to our tmo family plan if they ever fix this.
So, to recap, joining metro today with the tablet and if/when he comes back Sunday with nothing, I'm porting out to Google voice.
I'm so disappointed with tmo. I joined them in 2012 right before everything started getting exciting in 2013 and on and I have been increasingly more happy with them ever since...
What a shame
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mottyengel said:
Yup... Yup... I just had a very long conversation with a tech support guy (i gave him all a bunch of different forum thread links to read through) he read everything I showed him and he understood fully. He transferred me w8th details to someone else who again took plenty of time to read through everything including internal T-mobile discussion. He's gonna call me back on Sunday. I left off with him that everyone is jumping ship because of this, including me, all to pacify some freeloaders.
Of course, I'm not delusional. after reading the above thread I realize he's probably gonna get back to me with a sorry, nothing we can do. That's why I'm going to a metro pcs store today to sign up. I'm not porting my number just yet, first I want to test metro and give tmo a little more time. Plus, I have a new note 4 (warranty issue replacing my current note 4) coming which I will then have to pay off when I port my number out so I'm gonna sell. And actually, I'm going to finally port my number to Google voice so I can always jump around and back to our tmo family plan if they ever fix this.
So, to recap, joining metro today with the tablet and if/when he comes back Sunday with nothing, I'm porting out to Google voice.
I'm so disappointed with tmo. I joined them in 2012 right before everything started getting exciting in 2013 and on and I have been increasingly more happy with them ever since...
What a shame
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I just came back from the cricket store. After writing my last post, I put my jacket on, and walked out, walked 6 blocks down, and had them port my number. So far so good. LTE speed is decent, and now I'm actually paying less! $35 a month. 2.5GB (which is enough for me, they had $45 for 5GB, maybe I'll upgrade next month) and unlimited talk and text. Not too shabby.
Dear T-Mobile. See how easy it was to "Un-carrier" you? I did it in less time, than it takes to do one load of laundry.
Nice hope it works for you. I need the unlimited data because I use North of 30gb a month... With I could go to cricket, but metros probably where I'll end up
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AirBruce said:
I just came back from the cricket store. After writing my last post, I put my jacket on, and walked out, walked 6 blocks down, and had them port my number. So far so good. LTE speed is decent, and now I'm actually paying less! $35 a month. 2.5GB (which is enough for me, they had $45 for 5GB, maybe I'll upgrade next month) and unlimited talk and text. Not too shabby.
Dear T-Mobile. See how easy it was to "Un-carrier" you? I did it in less time, than it takes to do one load of laundry.
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Well, I'm now a happy metro pcs customer. Just started porting my tmo number to google voice and it'll work through the new metro number. Turns out, my eip on my note 4 doesnt come due at all. As long as there are still more lines on the account, i can just keep paying it off month by month. Of course I'm gonna sell it soon but still.
BTW, to anyone who had this issue with tmo, you can get through to the engineering department for technical support, forward them to the following link so they can read up on the problem and then you can get them to credit your bill for the data portion since february. The credited my account 60 bucks.. Not bad. I wish I could have stayed with t-mobile but what can ya do.
Again, to all you people holding out for this to change. Not gonna happen. Not a chance in hell. really. It's a tablet now and it's final. you're gonna all have to move on
Metro is working fine for me is $10 more for the unlimited data but I am happy at least to have this working don't hesitate guys