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how to lock all buttons exept the power button in wm6.5 ?
In wm6.1 it was possible to change that in settings/keys menu. But in wm6.5 this is gone for some stupid reason!
I dont want to use ext. app like pocketshield for such a basic and simple feature.
Reason: when phone is screenlocked - any hardwarekey wake up phone from standby. And of course the screen pops up and drain battery. HD2 keys are recessed and in the pocked can easyly accidentialy get pressed. When screen weaks up for some reasons (incoming call or other notification event) the buttons are not locked and i dont need to describe what funny things can happen then (just imagine on your own). Even accidentialy changes to my settings happened in my pocket without recognising.
HTC: this is ridiculous.
Pls help. Is there maybe a easy reghack to activate this basic feature again, like it was implemented in previous Rom versions?
the button lock in WM6.5 is the same as WM6.1 (got X1 before)
but in HD2 it's different.. and I don't think anyone solved this problem yet...
No known solution indeed, apart from using S2U2, and if you want to save more battery adding proximitylock.
what if you locked the keys while you are making a call with bluetooth and you want to look in your phone? You'd have to press the "end call/power" button..
Also since the power button turns the screen off, I automaticly press the same button to turn the screen on when I'm not making a call.. I can't count the times I've ended a call by accident like this.. another great design flaw of this phone
I still hope someone will find a solution for a working hardwarebuttonlock
no one found a solution yet?
i'm having the same problem and strangely i am irritating myself to death on this,
Not a good job HTC!
Having installed android just recently on my hd2, I started to use my hardware buttons more often. Now, whenever I push the windows-flag-button on the far left (still the button but close to its left rim), then the home-button is pushed too. Is this a general flaw of the hardware buttons or is it just my hd2. I would love to see some response, in order to see whether it makes any sense to send it in or to just live with it.
Thanks in advance!!
After I changed to the "Photon" style and use, I started using the hardware buttons extensively - that was already last summer.
Did never have any issue like you describe. Still everything working perfect for me.
erniepb said:
Having installed android just recently on my hd2, I started to use my hardware buttons more often. Now, whenever I push the windows-flag-button on the far left (still the button but close to its left rim), then the home-button is pushed too. Is this a general flaw of the hardware buttons or is it just my hd2. I would love to see some response, in order to see whether it makes any sense to send it in or to just live with it.
Thanks in advance!!
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I have the same issue with my HD2 (also using an Android NAND). I believe, that it is a hardware-flaw, and not a ROM-Issue. I just made myself press more on the right of that button (closer to the middle of these two buttons (Flag and Back-button)) , and now it doesn't really bother me anymore.
I hope, I could help.
laerador
BTW: I own a O2 HD2 from Germany. (Might, that this flaw is connected to a specific model)
The hardware buttons begin failing on a lot of hd2s, this is a common problem since android makes you use hardware buttons more. There are several threads about it. Luckily, a dev from this forum created button savior for android, an app that creates soft buttons on the side of your screen that can pull out when you need them. Get Button Savior from the market... a needed app for the hd2 so you don't have to use your hardware buttons so much.
Just in case you don't know: there's a software alternative for hardware buttons on Android, SW Key.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
Edit: oops sorry, previous poster also pointed you towards that. Well, here's the link ;-)
try not to use your nail to click on the key,, use the middle of your fingers to push slowly down.
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is there any work around after a button has failed
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is there any work around after a button has failed
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Yeah, you read the whole thread
dio62000 said:
Just in case you don't know: there's a software alternative for hardware buttons on Android, SW Key.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
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My HD2 is about year old. I bought it (months 4 ago) with broken digitizer. Replaced it itself. What i finded inside is interesting. Buttons bar have clued some small plastic dots (see on pic). As i understand they fits to keypad excrescent plastic dots (dont have pic). And one of these on buttons bar was gone. I ordered then new button bar and now no more problems with buttons. Before i had too problems when i pushed home button accidently popped up calling or menu (windows logo button pressed).
Hope this helped you find right direction to resolve your problem.
Sorry, maybe the question was phrased incorrectly.
my home button has failed. in ASOP builds my phone boots into safemode.
in Sense builds it doesnt, but my battery ussage in both types of builds is above 50 ma
can I turn off the buttons to sort out the short in the rom.
Thanks for your response!!
I have sent it in for repair and got a 100% cash refund.
Well, let's see what little gadget I can buy for the money ...
so I just noticed the lights for my hardware buttons are stuck on, happens from the moment the phone turns on, and nothing changes it (though they seem to dim slightly) I've tried reflashing the phone (using mdj cyanogen 2.7, nand with magldr 1.12)
I tried searching and havent seen anything like this. Only thing I can think is maybe it got a little wet(?) while I was recording video during a snow storm here, but nothing else seemed wrong, just got home and noticed it. Any ideas?
I have the exact same problem. I've flashed back to the original windows mobile rom and the problem is still there! I've searched and yet to find the solution. Anyone got any ideas?
Check to see if you have a voicemail - you may have read it but closed VM before listening to all the message, it can on occasions do this - it I'm right just ring your phone leave a fresh VM then go into VM and listen to the whole message
Thanks for the reply, but no dice on this one. I tried the voicemail thing and I have no voicemails.
To clarify it's the bottom 5 buttons (call, home, windows, back and power) that are constantly lit up. Even when the phone goes on standby those buttons stay lit. I'm looking to see if there's an app that can just shut them off.
I got the same problem. My hd2 got some water on it and the problem started. The hardware keys now getting dim but not getting completely off. There is no other problem
Please help.
same problem on my father htc click
Ok guys try the bottom of post 4 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507
I use that rom (the 1.7) version and the fix works
johnerz said:
Ok guys try the bottom of post 4 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507
I use that rom (the 1.7) version and the fix works
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Thanks, I will try the rom.
But do u really think its a rom problem ? The keys light were working fine before the water hazard in the same existing rom. Besides the problem is also there when u are in the boot menu of MAGLDR or Clockwork menu.
any updates from anyone? On miy HD2 the vol up, start, back & end call key don't respond to any presses but seem to be active. Calls will randomly end, vol up acts as if the button is kept pressed!
Help!
Hi guys,
A little bump in this thread, but is there already found a solution for this problem?
After a hard reset and replacing the digitizer of my htc HD2, the buttonlights remain on. Even when the phone gets in standby mode.
I'm using cyanogenmod 7. (bought it like this. Didn't put android on it myself)
After the hard reset and digitizer replacement there also came another problem.
When pushing the windows logo (key 158) the volume up button also reacts (key 115). Thesame problem occurs when pushing the dial button. With that key (231), key 114 (volume down) reacts.
So when i want to open a menu or make a call the volume goes up or down.
Do you guys think I screwed something up when replacing my digitizer or is it just an software issue caused by the hard reset?
All right guys, it was an hardware failure.
I reopened my htc and checked all the connectors and (re)placed some of the yellow tape. After the reassembly, my phone just works as it should. All problems are solved.
My HTC HD2 also got the keys stuck after only a week of use. T-Mobile is sending me a replacement phone today.
Is this a common problem? I'm afraid it may happen again.
Hey guys I'm having same issue. Going to try opening up and check connectors.
Okay I wasnt going to post about this cause there have been way too many posts and alot of back and forth and debates and even flaming, but I stumbled across something that I think is the cause for MAJORITY of the issues with why we keep having this happen. It Happened to me Today, and I Found the cause.
Before ANYONE Flames me for bringing this up, READ the post, Remember I solved the cause of why it happens to most of us, I dont take responsibility if you choose to take it upon yourself to fix it! And I know 90% of the users are going to tell me I'm wrong or I dont know what I am talking about, so be it.
If you have nothing to add other then flaming the post, just hit the back button and be on your merry way and pretend you never saw it. But I am 98% sure I am right about why its happening!
So if your interested read on:
I actually for the first time had this, and I know this is going to get flamed but its not the Screen thats the problem. And I think (BIG IF) that the dreaded unresponsive screen issue that we keep reading about Majority of them I think is not the screen.
I have 2 HD2s and both have worked flawlessly without any problems, but today I was playing with my test phone that doesnt get used that much and I noticed after installing a new rom that my screen after I played with it for a bit went black (sleep) and when I woke it up it wouldnt respond, first thing that crossed my mind is I just lost my digitizier, and started wondering okay why, I went as far to re-flash WinMo stock HD2 rom, same issue, so I decided its time to find out exactly whats causing this, and I found it. I wasnt going to make a post again cause I figured people would be "Not another thread about this" but I know whats causing the screen issue, at least this is my suspicision and I have temporarily fixed mine.
The problem is HARDWARE, The Culprit: THE END KEY (Red Button)! The Answer to "How or Why": The "End" key is used to turn the phone on and off or to put it in sleep mode, it is the most used key out of all 5 keys, it is used probably 7x more then all the rest, Its used for just about everything, now how does this cause the unresponsive screen? Easy, the phone lock or sleep is associated with this key, Its the only way to make the screen go off other then waiting for the time out period. Because by habit we mostly hit the end key to turn the screen off the phone automatically associates this with locking the phone, once that happens the screen becomes unresponsive because of several reasons: 1) The contact under the actual key has dirt which causes the button to stick in the down position, 2) the contact is bent which the "end" key is pressing down on the contact which is making contact with the board and causing it to be unresponsive, 3) The contact is worn. This is the reason why if you press the end key a few times (anywhere between 2-10) and then try the screen responds, this is cause your "unsticking" the key which then lets the screen respond.
Most of us when we hit the end key press to the far right to avoid hitting the back key (The button with the left arrow) which causes the end button to lean toward the right. But you can wake the phone up with the other 4 keys to the lock screen which will allow you to unlock the phone. As a temporary fix for myself, on my test phone I now make sure to press on the left side of the key to prevent this from happening, since its a test phone I'm not worried, but the real solution is to take the phone apart and clean the underside of the end button, and the actual contact with alcohol to remove the build up of dirt and whatever else. And also if the contact frame is bent to GENTLY bend the right side back up alittle to stop it from happening, or sending it to htc and letting them fix it.
We have to RE-TRAIN ourselves to start using the other keys to wake the phone up and not rely on the end key so much.
Hope this helps anyone finally why we have this problem. And if it works for you then hit the Thanks button
I completely agree with you. I've had the "dead digitizer" since December. It was pretty apparent it was a hardware key problem, as I could generally solve the issue by pressing the "Off" button to turn the screen off, and then one of the other keys (usually the back button, but occasionally one of the others) to wake the screen up, and the digitizer would be alive again.
As I am still under warranty, I sent mine off last week, and expect to hear back within a few days. But if I had the confidence to open it myself, I was sure it would be fixed with a good clean.
Anyway, thanks for crystallizing all this into a post. Thanked!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFO. i have had so much trouble with unresponsive screen after installing typhoon 2.6.3 and it from holding down the red button all the time for install and the past millions times for everything else.
Thanks for the heads up
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U maybe be right about why this issue happens but if u rely on other key then will also wear out soon ...
What I did is I remapped my volume up n down keys to power and back button which I believe are the most used in android and then found a app to manage my volume in android that way I don't lose my sound on rhw phone
Also I went ahead and got a another app which places virtual buttons on ur screen so u can use then instead of the actual hardware buttons
For button remapping
get the BUTTONREMAPPER for android and for on screen android buttons get BUTTON SAVIOR
hope this helps
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Good to know... will now wake my phone up with the green key as its hardly used in Android. Button Savior is a great app, been using it a while now. Took a bit to retrain myself to not use the back key.
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i'm going to agree with your hypothesis or at least suspect that dirt is probably a bigger factor than most people think in these cases. i just bought a non-responsive phone today and while i stuck my nail (yes, i should probably clip them) around the edge, in between the screen and housing, i was surprised to see just how much dirt was in between that crack. same with the area around the buttons; there's a lot of grime there.
since i just got the phone i haven't even opened it up but the first thing i'm planning to do is give it a good interior clean around the buttons for sure as that seems to be the sensitive spot. touch screen devices are very delicate and the micro particles of dirt which build up over time probably create a hazard that people really don't really anticipate. compound that with having to mash on those buttons all the time probably crams the debris in there even tighter.
i'll attempt to clean and check the contact as you suggested and will report back if it helped in my case.
About hardware keys:
I don't use them at all, only for wake up the phone (it can be wake up with any key)
There is an app in market called "button saviour" it's just excellent app to keep your hardware keys for a long time
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The problem is HARDWARE, The Culprit: THE END KEY (Red Button)! The Answer to "How or Why": The "End" key is used to turn the phone on and off or to put it in sleep mode, it is the most used key out of all 5 keys, it is used probably 7x more then all the rest, Its used for just about everything, now how does this cause the unresponsive screen? Easy, the phone lock or sleep is associated with this key, Its the only way to make the screen go off other then waiting for the time out period. Because by habit we mostly hit the end key to turn the screen off the phone automatically associates this with locking the phone, once that happens the screen becomes unresponsive because of several reasons: 1) The contact under the actual key has dirt which causes the button to stick in the down position, 2) the contact is bent which the "end" key is pressing down on the contact which is making contact with the board and causing it to be unresponsive, 3) The contact is worn. This is the reason why if you press the end key a few times (anywhere between 2-10) and then try the screen responds, this is cause your "unsticking" the key which then lets the screen respond.
Most of us when we hit the end key press to the far right to avoid hitting the back key (The button with the left arrow) which causes the end button to lean toward the right. But you can wake the phone up with the other 4 keys to the lock screen which will allow you to unlock the phone. As a temporary fix for myself, on my test phone I now make sure to press on the left side of the key to prevent this from happening, since its a test phone I'm not worried, but the real solution is to take the phone apart and clean the underside of the end button, and the actual contact with alcohol to remove the build up of dirt and whatever else. And also if the contact frame is bent to GENTLY bend the right side back up alittle to stop it from happening, or sending it to htc and letting them fix it.
We have to RE-TRAIN ourselves to start using the other keys to wake the phone up and not rely on the end key so much.
Hope this helps anyone finally why we have this problem. And if it works for you then hit the Thanks button
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You just hit d nail on d head pal...My HD2's touchscreen also stopped responding and nothing i did (software-wise) worked...i flashed several WinMo ROMs and Android builds with no luck, till i read somewhere online dat some guy seemed 2 solve his touchscreen issues by installing "CleanRam", ran a level 3 clean up (use MyMobiler for this) and by pressing real hard on the red end key button..I did just dat and voila it works!!
I have a Tmobile HD2 which is no longer covered under warranty and i'm not willing 2 part with almost $200 here 2 have d whole lcd & digitizer replaced...I recollected dat in d forum i read the suggestion from, a lot of ppl came n posed their views on why it's not possible but i tell u it is cuz it worked for me..Nw i'm comfortably dual-booting WinMo & Android via sd. i use "button savior" and "extended control" to navigate and power down/reboot respectively.
Hweva i believe its not a permanent fix as it simply refuses 2 allow me run android full-time thru MAGLDR, & i think i know y..pressing down on d end button 2 launch MAGLDR/CWR options after install messes up d connection with d digitizer underneath and d touch screen thereby causing it 2 fail again when android boots up....I just might try opening it up myself n cleaning dat area up as u suggest but dat'll be when my current fix fails cuz as d saying goes "If it aint broken? then don't fix it"
Just installed Button Remapper, and not to sound like an idiot, but can someone tell me which one I would have to remap to make the volume up key or down key to put the phone to sleep and wake it up, and would that still be able to use the volume key to turn up and down the volume as well?
AngelDeath said:
Just installed Button Remapper, and not to sound like an idiot, but can someone tell me which one I would have to remap to make the volume up key or down key to put the phone to sleep and wake it up, and would that still be able to use the volume key to turn up and down the volume as well?
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Hmm...i don't use d app but from wat i can gather on d dev's thread, you would have 2 remap ur volume keys to "Power"...Also checkout dis review 2 learn hw 2 mk d remapped button work even in sleep-mode.
I can agree but mine's been in twice on repairs with the same error but screen was replaced both times amongst the digitizer, backcover (Can't understand why) and 3 other things were replaced. Buttons weren't replaced.
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I can agree but mine's been in twice on repairs with the same error but screen was replaced both times amongst the digitizer, backcover (Can't understand why) and 3 other things were replaced. Buttons weren't replaced.
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If I'm to base how the HD2 is setup internally, they wouldnt replace the buttons, they would replace the contact or contact board under the buttons, remember the buttons are like a keyboard, they dont wear out, its what they push on that gets dirty or worn.
I was traveling and this happen t me and became desperate.
Following the instructions I come to the clear conclusion that our HD2 has this hardware problem.
If I do not use the end call button no issues with the screen, really, no issues.
Hope my feedback will be helpfull as well. Great job done here!
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I was traveling and this happen t me and became desperate.
Following the instructions I come to the clear conclusion that our HD2 has this hardware problem.
If I do not use the end call button no issues with the screen, really, no issues.
Hope my feedback will be helpfull as well. Great job done here!
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Yeah HTC screwed up on dat...its just as said,1 has 2 be careful n avoid using d red end key button as much as possible 2 enable d device last much longer...And if u do ave 2 use it, press on d left-most part of d key (closer 2 d back arrow button) to get d job done.
I just had this issue happen to me and thought it was my build... But I found another way, I use Cyanogen Mod 7, and in the drag down menu (from the top) I added a sleep option, because thats the only thing I use it for... and I never have a reason to press the end button now.
This is the best thing I have found to fix it without having to remap the buttons
I guess I'm lucky because I have never had a problem with the responsiveness of the touchscreen and/or end button. I got my HD2 a month before TMO release date and trust me it has been thru alot (scratches all over, even a piece of glass missing next to the call button). So my question is how much pressure and wear 'n' tear are you all putting on your end button or phone for that matter?
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I just had this issue happen to me and thought it was my build... But I found another way, I use Cyanogen Mod 7, and in the drag down menu (from the top) I added a sleep option, because thats the only thing I use it for... and I never have a reason to press the end button now.
This is the best thing I have found to fix it without having to remap the buttons
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Can that be done with other roms? And wouldnt a shortcut or a widget on the main screen also work?
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I guess I'm lucky because I have never had a problem with the responsiveness of the touchscreen and/or end button. I got my HD2 a month before TMO release date and trust me it has been thru alot (scratches all over, even a piece of glass missing next to the call button). So my question is how much pressure and wear 'n' tear are you all putting on your end button or phone for that matter?
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It all depends really Understand that not all HD2's go thru the same testing process when it comes out of the manufacturer. Also take into consideration that it also depends on how often you flash a rom, if your flashing a rom every day or every week expect that you will shorten the life of the end button, also it doesnt always mean that the button is bad, it could clearly be dirt underneath that could also be causing the issue. And I said the same thing when I saw posts about people saying that android killed their screen. I even responded to it but always maintained it was hardware, even though I didn have the problem, and I bought both my HD2's used in Dec. and the day it happened and I found out why I posted this, if I was to guess, I would say that I probably flashed both my HD2's close to 200 times with different roms, or upgrades, or testing fixes out.
So if your not a flash nut, then your probably safe. There are many factors that can play a role in the end button life cycle, And no two people use their HD2's the exact same way.
the non-responsive touchscreen problem happened to me this morning. I woke up trying to unlock my phone only to find that it would not respond to any touch gestures. I was however able to uninstall HSPL and Flash the stock WM6.5 rom since I was going to T-Mobile to get a replacement. When I took it to T-Mobile the employee resetted the phone by holding the 2 volume buttons and the power button then somehow the touchscreen started to respond to touch again. I was completely puzzled as I thought it was for sure a hardware problem. But now I'm going to flash Android and hopefully the problem will not arise again, if it does, back to T-Mobile I'll go!
What Android really needs is some sort of "X" button, or even a widget on the main screen that you can just tap and put it to sleep. The three most keys used in my opinion is the windows key (Apps that use it for a menu), the back key (Since there is no damn close button), and the end key (sleep, flashing, booting to magdlr).
Some one had a concept here of buttons that looked very similar to The desire HD, the greatest thing would be if someone could make the bottom of the htc sense (app drawer, phone, and the personalize) auto hide and have the desire HD buttons come up with a power button at the end and this way if you hit menu it would bring up the original 3 button screen.
So i've been dealing with this for the last week or so and I finally decided to stop searching and scouring the internet and ask for some help from my XDA brethren.
I don't exactly know how or why, but all the hard buttons on my HD2 do not work anymore. Volume up and down, pick up, home, menu, back, and hang up buttons... all not working. They all stopped working at the same time.
I don't really care except for the fact that I cannot wake my phone up after it locks/sleeps. I tried an app called Shake and Wake with no luck. Any sugguestions? or should I just look for a new phone? I really don't want to give up on my HD2... we've been through a lot! Thanks a ton you guys, I really appreciate it.
If I were you I would head on over to the nexus one threads and ask the question.
That phone only has one button, and some folk have had that not work, so they are used to the problem, and I'm sure they will have a solution for you. Worth a try anyway........
Button Savior - free from Market
Jadrobe, I really like button saviour but that still doesn't solve my problem, how do I wake the phone up without any buttons?!!
do your volume buttons work? if so, you could use ButtonRemapper (paid app) to remap one of your volume buttons to work as your power button and do the rest with button savior.
Nope, none of the buttons work!! I'm screwed!
Then yes, you are indeed screwed. Sorry for your misfortune.
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Nope, none of the buttons work!! I'm screwed!
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Pretty much. If you have one working button then you could use an app called "button remapper"
Have you flashed back to stock/something different yet? Seems a touch coincidental that they all go at once. The bottom 5, or the two volume yea, cos they're on two separate input busses, but for both to fail together... not saying it couldn't happen, just saying it could be something else.
If there not working how do you turn on your phone?
When I slide the battery into the phone it automatically boots up as if I pushed in the power button.. it never used to do that before.
And also right after it powers up it sends me straight to slide to shut down which kind of makes me believe I may have the power button stuck on or something? I'm going to try to flash the stock rom and see what happens. I'll keep you all posted. Thanks!
Dude!! Proximity Screen Off (look in Abdroid Themes and Apps sub-forum) could fix you up in combination with button savior !
It has an option to use the prox sensor to put your phone to sleep and to wake it. The downside is it will drain your battery faster than normal because the prox sensor is in use when the screen's off. But it could keep your phone useable til you can get your buttons fixed (probly just your power button is malfunctioning it sounds like to me)
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Thanks a ton Huggs. I'll definitely look into it, as the main reason I love this phone is for Android roms!
So far i've had good luck with this Winmo 6.5 app. I had to revert to the base/stock Tmo rom and it works okay.
Shake and Wake
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/shakenwake-mod-for-hd2/