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HTC Touch2 T3333 - WinMo 6.5 buggy

I purchased a WinMo 6.5 prof based HTC Touch2 T3333 and I'm facing quite a few performance problems.
TouchFlo takes a lot of time to load when the phone starts, any way to reduce it? Scrolling is VERY sluggish, again I have no idea why. The Microsoft Tag application I downloaded hangs the phone every time I use it.
Also, I "bought" the Bing app from the web interface of WinMo Marketplace, the app isn't showing up on the phone's Marketplace app.
It seems that the ROM that is on the phone might be buggy, is there a 6.5.3 build available for the T3333 and if not any stable build that isn't throwing random tantrums that you can point me to?
Thank you

Since there is no HSPL available you cannot install custome Rom...and HTC did not release an update yet....
You could consider a hard reset......after backing-up all data and programs!!!
Although after a soft reset .....touchflow is sometimes indeed slow.....but never more than say 15-30 seconds to start-up.....

thanks for the reply. can i install htc sense?

Not possible for the moment......
Look also here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628064
Keep following the forums.....perhaps something will move in future....

damn. I'm feeling disappointed since there is nothing I can do about the buggy-ness of the OS. thank you for the replies though

Hard reset......but back-upfirst....!!

Did that no change.

Ok, last resort of help is HTC service, call them with your problem and when approved they pick up your phone, hopefully fix and return.......had to do that ones aswell......
Succes

surv!vor said:
damn. I'm feeling disappointed since there is nothing I can do about the buggy-ness of the OS. thank you for the replies though
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If You want, You can try something else: Install SPB Mobile Shell 3 and disable Touch Flo from the item list of the Today menu - much better and quicker (in my opinion)!

my TouchFlo is loading as much as 10 second i think ... and i it is quite fast ... have u tried tweaking it ? Diamond Tweak , Advanced configuration tools , SKTools ... there are many settings about the touchflo etc like how much force u have to use to slide ... and many many more i'm sure u can speed it up !

Most stable ROM ?

have any one found a STABLE ROM that thay used for 2-3 days without soft reset ?
im trying to find most stable ROM possible, preferably 6.5.3 or above, but the one i can trust not to hang for 2,3 days of hard core use as Music Player, Web Browser and Online connection to MSN/Skype for 24Houers.
with or without HTC Sence.
at the moment im not that concern about performance as any rom is still faster then my old treo pro lol

yup, a stock one.
I´m using the official one and no problems.

1.48 or 1.66 ? if 1.48 then why not 1.66 ?

vladimir2989 said:
1.48 or 1.66 ? if 1.48 then why not 1.66 ?
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You should try the Official 1.66.405.2 WWE ... it's most stable ROM for daily usage... it's included all the fixes from HTC ... so there is no problem... try it

just installed 1.66 ... installing all the soft i use, just installed Smaberg White 1 percent battery thing that makes % appear above the battery, now i have little black square next to it... but i guess that a different issue

vladimir2989 said:
just installed 1.66 ... installing all the soft i use, just installed Smaberg White 1 percent battery thing that makes % appear above the battery, now i have little black square next to it... but i guess that a different issue
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In my opinion.... if you use the official ROM... just install BsB Tweaks and then it's fine...

Hi,
Where can I find "Install BsB Tweaks"
Thanks

vladimir2989 said:
have any one found a STABLE ROM that thay used for 2-3 days without soft reset ?
im trying to find most stable ROM possible, preferably 6.5.3 or above, but the one i can trust not to hang for 2,3 days of hard core use as Music Player, Web Browser and Online connection to MSN/Skype for 24Houers.
with or without HTC Sence.
at the moment im not that concern about performance as any rom is still faster then my old treo pro lol
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my own preference....freyberry barebone 6.5.5 latest ms build 23xxx running on base 1.66leo....stable....not a single softrest is needed for 2weeks for now....

devil_82 said:
my own preference....freyberry barebone 6.5.5 latest ms build 23xxx running on base 1.66leo....stable....not a single softrest is needed for 2weeks for now....
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will try that soon prob on Monday, i been using freyberry Premium_nomess V6 or whatever the latest one is, for a while (i hate HTC messaging) but it hangs occasional especially over night, i have to do a soft reset every morning for some reason which make it useless as alarm clock (although i have suspicion it maybe due to someting i install or combination of stuff i install coz no one else seems to have that problem)
but i kinda need HTC Album (facebook uploading) i guess its not in bearbone so i will try WMPhone version or something

richsark said:
Hi,
Where can I find "Install BsB Tweaks"
Thanks
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here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
next time do a search

Dutty's HG V.08. actually in HD2 i never get stuck..

Two weeks without a softreset that's thruly amazing especially
if you consider that WM 6.5.5 is not official and beta.
No mather which rom I use but everyday I do a softreset, kind of a habbit.
Currently I'm using the 2.07 T-Mob.
@Vladimir, no offence but I don't think you can open a thread like this and pick a rom based on the experiences people tell you here.
I think you need to test yourself as everyone has a different use/experience with a rom.
Just my 2 cents
devil_82 said:
my own preference....freyberry barebone 6.5.5 latest ms build 23xxx running on base 1.66leo....stable....not a single softrest is needed for 2weeks for now....
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I'm using MIRI's 6.5 ROM.
I have found it to be completely stable. I have to avoid 6.5.x ROMs 'cos Memory Map doesn't work properly on them.
The stock ROM is stable, but it's a mess! They should have included a way to tidy the cluttered start menu. Things are improved by installing BSB Tweaks.

IMHO there is no such thing as the perfect ROM!
There are number of factors to consider that can effect the overall stabilty of a ROM be it stock or cooked, a ROM that one person might find it to be flawless, the other might have issues, remember not all bugs are ROM related so consider the following points:-
- The 3rd party apps you use
- The network you are on
- The radio version you use or combination of the radio & rom
I'm currently using stock 1.66 ROM not that it's the best but it's been the most stable for my apps and daily use!
One thing that frustrates me is the lack of constructive feedback you get from people flashing various stock or cooked ROM's it's allways comments like "This ROM is very fast and stable" or "this the best ROM I've tried" what's funny is that you get these comments when they've only used the ROM for couple of hours or in some cases just 5 minutes!!!!
IMHO you must use the ROM for at least couple of days if not a week and once you've installed all your apps then you can establish how good the ROM is in your daily use only then you should give your feedback so that others can have a better idea of how the ROM really performs!!!

what ROM are you using and why?

There may be a good chance that this thread maybe closed... but I'll ask it anyway...
What ROM are you using and why?
I'm asking as sometimes, reading threads like this exposes people to an idea/function/app/etc that they didn't consider in another ROM...
I'm using BlackSTONEhenge because it's really fast and not too heavy on the memory usage...

korrupt_1 said:
There may be a good chance that this thread maybe closed... but I'll ask it anyway...
What ROM are you using and why?
I'm asking as sometimes, reading threads like this exposes people to an idea/function/app/etc that they didn't consider in another ROM...
I'm using BlackSTONEhenge because it's really fast and not too heavy on the memory usage...
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I was using cloudys rom, this is close to stock, very stable and fast, also low on memory useage.
I used to use his rom on my diamond back in the day.
Now flashed back to XannyTech Grid Leo 2.6 rom, as this rom is perfect for me. Fast, lots of tabs, eye candy, apps installed etc....

I am using XannyTech Grid Leo 2.4 as the version 2.5 and 2.6 seems to be a bit buggy to me.

I'll allow this thread to continue (for now), but I'll move it to general discussion forum as its not about rom development
As for which rom I use....see my sig ......as for why I use it, you'll just have to flash it to find out!!!
Rick
p.s. I have 2 HD's, one for general use, one for the constant flasher (me) who wants to try the latest builds. My sig only represents my everyday rom

I was using T2M rom v23544! It's very nice!! free RAM 60MB....!

Using ROM in signature.
Stable, not too many unneeded programs cooked, all programs I need (see signature) work...
After installation of everything I need I still have over 74 MB program memory free...
Oh, and Manila 2.1, which I like more than 2.5

I use Topix 3.5 wm6.1. Super fast ROM, after restart 68perc free RAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640

1.56.405.1 [43972] WWE
WM 6.1 today screen with launcher 79% free ram or 153 mb after reset, don't have to close anything, don't have to soft reset...maybe once a week...if that, most reliable OEM rom I've used in nearly ten years of ppc/WM use.
boring huh....just the way I like it
Occasionally google maps will have glitch where the screen doesn't refresh properly after the sip has been on there, but thats about it

XannyTech Grid Leo 2.4 is used here for the same reason as wind79, but in addition it's the only rom I've come across that can control the song playback forward and backward via volum control when the screen is turned off. XT lost something on the way from 2.4 onward. =(
Any other roms around that do the volume/song selection trick?

I am use:Rom..kwbrs Topix 3.5.10 [Sense 2.5.2012][5.2.21897] without hTC messaging
Stable and good battery..45% memories after softreset. good performances...

I'm using Miniterror's.
I liked Miri's, but something (can't remember now what), made me look for better, tried Energyrom, but the Cookie thing messed with my volume buttons, and was a hassle to fix.
I expected Cloudyfa's to be amazing, but the radio was bad for me and I tried Miniterror on a whim.
I'm very happy. I just wish he included some of the apps (like GPS stuff and the action screen) like in the Energy ROM, then it would be perfect.
I'm planning on going to the current release, but so far, I'm problem free so I'm slow to move...

peter63 said:
I use Topix 3.5 wm6.1. Super fast ROM, after restart 68perc free RAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
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Using this one too. Tried several WM 6.5 ROMs. I do not see what do I gain with WM 6.5 but see clearly what I lose: A lot of RAM and speed.
in Topix 3.5 WM6.1 I start with 35% RAM used and with Opera opened it's on 55%, not 80% like WM 6.5.

BareBones (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972)
6.1, Extremely fast, stable, doesn't include all the stuff I don't need (specifically Manila which really slows the HD, even if not in use), and it's open so I can easily modify the ROM and add the stuff I like!
I wish there was a 6.5 ROM with the same benefits out there, but honestly I'm very happy with my current ROM and don't see much of a reason to change it.

I'm a Dutty rom fan... see my current rom in my signature. This rom seems to endure anything, it's fast, reliable and I found no bugs whatsoever! You just need to take it easy on installing apps and pay some attention to running processes and close useless ones from time to time. With this rom seem to work any Sense 2.5 mod (and I tried allot of them). Oh, I'm not a wm6.5.x follower (don't like that stupid bottom bar, and also that stupidly narrow taskbar) so I'll stick to 6.5, it's more appropriate for our Blascktone.

stock! stock! stock! 1.59.707 (48753) WWE - the fastest ROM I've ever seen

danim said:
BareBones (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972)
6.1, Extremely fast, stable, doesn't include all the stuff I don't need (specifically Manila which really slows the HD, even if not in use), and it's open so I can easily modify the ROM and add the stuff I like!
I wish there was a 6.5 ROM with the same benefits out there, but honestly I'm very happy with my current ROM and don't see much of a reason to change it.
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Hi danim, where can i download this ROM? I went to the link you provided, but can't find the download link...
please advice

energy rom use on my HD why? simply i dont no.......eny beter sugest...

I was using miris until he stopped support for them.
I also had GPS problems (maybe it was my radio...) 5 seconds lock - 5 seconds no lock - really frustrating.
Reflashed with latest radio and energys latest titanium last weekend (I like my HD minimal)
It's got 90% of the apps I need (I added pocket player and SKTools), is super fast, and I get a GPS lock within seconds everywhere now - great because I work abroad (and I get lost a lot).
Miris roms served me well, but this new energy rom is even faster - very very happy with it so far.

optyqus said:
I'm a Dutty rom fan... see my current rom in my signature. This rom seems to endure anything, it's fast, reliable and I found no bugs whatsoever! You just need to take it easy on installing apps and pay some attention to running processes and close useless ones from time to time. With this rom seem to work any Sense 2.5 mod (and I tried allot of them). Oh, I'm not a wm6.5.x follower (don't like that stupid bottom bar, and also that stupidly narrow taskbar) so I'll stick to 6.5, it's more appropriate for our Blascktone.
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I use the same Duttys ROM ....... really fast and stable .... I did last soft reset about 3 weeks ago and my ram load is still only 58% ....... that's why I have always used only Duttys ROM.
P.S. I have tried many ROMs myself, but none so stable.

Zenonia not working...

Just downloaded it from the marketplace after hearing how cool it is. Game only goes to loading screen and crashes there. This has happened multiple times and after multiple hard resets. Any thoughts on getting this game to work? I heard something about disabling ArkSwitch, but I don't even have it installed now. Still the same problem. I would really hate to have wasted $10. I could have purchased Gremote (on sale )

I have the same problem, it seems to work on the stock tmobile usa rom though. I would use it but i dont like the top start menu.

I mean, so damn, how do I go about resolving this. I wnat a refund or something thats stupid unfair. I just did another hard reset to make sure it wasn't any tweaks I did, still the same result. Lame on both windows and gamevil

short of going to stock rom, i dont know

i am using stock, the 6.5 upgrade though. It came with 6.1 and i upgraded through sprint's site

crash related to taskbar?
I read over on another forum that there is an issue with Zenonia not being compatible with the new taskbar in winmo 6.5. Are there any mods to bring back the old task bar, or modify it in a way to make the game compatible again?

Almost every chef has two versions of their 6.5 ROMs; the 21xxx builds and the 23xxx.
Try the more stable 21xxx and it should run fine.

just grew a pair and flashed over to a cooked rom. I was on stock before. Using the energy rom, loving it, and the game works. Thanks! This thread can be closed

I've recently installed the newest Energy rom and it's broken again. I had been using an older Energy rom for months because it worked so well with Zenonia.
According to other sites, it's the custom task bars. I had tried lots of other roms before finding one of the Energy roms that worked. I had also read that the dialer also seems to cause problems. It seemed to help me launch the game two times by installing the Leo 2G dialer using the Core Cell Evo v2 rom, but then it is no longer working again, even after resets. I purchased this game, so that really does suck. I imagine that experiences like this is what makes a WinMo Marketplace really impossible to use to make money like the other app stores can for developers.

T-Mobile stock ROM is 100% trash, looking for a new one !

Well guys, after a couple weeks with the stock TMOBILE rom I conclude that it's just USELESS.
I can't even use the phone... It's getting stuck when I'm trying to call someone, stuck when viewing images, stuck stuck stuck, at least 5 times a day.
Plus a million SOD's a day... I tried everything, from losing all apps, to modifying the registry.
I NEED A NEW ROM
But there are so many over there, I do not know what to choose.
I need:
1. As little visual tweaks as possible, i'd like to take care of that myself (CHT Cooked in is fine though)
2. Maximum system stability and performance, I DON'T WANT HANGS FROM SIMPLE OPERATIONS SUCH AS CALLING SOMEONE
3. No bloatware
4. Not much bugs (ie good support, constantly worked on, not a 1 time "job" )
Basically If it can resemble the stock one, but with more stability, tweaks and performance boosts, then i'm happy.
I have the sticky flashing manual in hand, so all I need is a recommendation.
Looking forward to flashing this thing today, thank you very much XDA.

Energy ROM Cookie's Reference ROM

this is a custom rom close to stock as you're going to get, please make sure you read loads before flashing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580

chaoscentral said:
Energy ROM Cookie's Reference ROM
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Or the standard sense reference or full. I recommend using the 23569 builds as well. more finger friendly and slightly quicker. Also there is an advantage with the full version in that if you wish to update the rom in future you can backup your settings using the energy settings exporter and then reimport them.

regarding the builds mentioned - can you expand ? links ?
thanks !
Exporter sounds GREAT.

Basically there are two builds of almost all the custom roms. One build will be the latest 6.5 build (21907, same WM version as the stock roms but with some bug fixes) then there is the 23569 (or higher) builds. These are WM 6.5.5. Some big changes here to the way the start menu works and also to the UI to make it more finger friendly. It's also a little quicker than WM 6.5 but (apparently. i've not found any yet) more buggy then WM 6.5. Also as i said (and i've now checked this) custom roms also include newer, less buggy, versions of sense (AKA manilla)

I suggest EnergyROM

Great, I think I will go for Energy.Leo.23569.Sense2.5.Cookie.Reference.Jun.26.7z
Is that OK for me ? (well, is it better than what i have now )
Is there a settings exporter in Energy.Leo.21907 ?

If you have the T-Mobile US HD2, make sure you use the right radio for your device.

That would do nicely although i don't know if it includes the exporter tool. You may want to look at the full cht version.
Good point about the radio. I have a UK version so i can use whatever i want. The right radio roms for the TMOUS devices have verison numbers that look like this: 2.xx.50.xx. the 50 bit is important as radios with the 50 in it have the unlock code for the extra ram in them and are compatible with the 1024MB rom chips. Also never ever use a radio with a version number like this: 2.xx.51.xx. The 51 radios will brick your phone and they can not be recovered as far as i am aware.
And yes afaik there is a setting exporter in the WM 6.5 builds

My radio is 2.10.50.26
Is that OK ?
Just how much faster is the 6.5.5 over the regular one ? I'm not liking that lower start button anyway so if it's not really faster i'll pass.
Looks kinda like an iPhone.. Less " serious "
m3ph - what ROM have you had in mind with the Exporter build in and the upper start button and CHT ?
I thank you for all the help... I am feeling positive about my HD2 again.. Can't wait to flash it !
Just making sure I get everything right about all the different Energies so I don't reflash and reflash a thousand times... Making a concious decision

Silencer23 said:
My radio is 2.10.50.26
Is that OK ?
Just how much faster is the 6.5.5 over the regular one ? I'm not liking that lower start button anyway so if it's not really faster i'll pass.
Looks kinda like an iPhone.. Less " serious "
m3ph - what ROM have you had in mind with the Exporter build in and the upper start button and CHT ?
I thank you for all the help... I am feeling positive about my HD2 again.. Can't wait to flash it !
Just making sure I get everything right about all the different Energies so I don't reflash and reflash a thousand times... Making a concious decision
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the radio will be fine.
The difference in speed is not massive so i wouldn't worry about it.
The rom i'm thinking of will be at this link: http://hotfile.com/dl/50755734/bde591c/Energy.Leo.21907.Sense2.5.Cookie.Jun.26.Take2.7z.html
Sorry if i'm being a little slow. i'm trying to eat my din, while texting the mrs, getting nfs world beta to work and figure out why sense will not show around 3500 of my messages and thinks my sister is my best mate

Deal, I will burn that ROM then, in the 21907 version and settle down.
Does it have the exporter for future upgrades ?
Looks like i'm fixed then ! Thanks ! What version is the faulty Sense that thinks your sister is your best mate ? hahah

Sorry to hear that... my stock ROM still works fine... I did not even update it yet - this one was right from the get-go

Well, I'm on Energy CHT now and IT'S A DIFFERENT PHONE !
WOW.
Thanks guys. You saved my phone and my money !

Now install chainfires 3D driver patch v2 on it and leocpuspeed v4 you'll be shocked.

Wooo Hoo ! This phone is ON FIRE now
Now we're talking !!
Thanks man ! Any more tips ? hehe

What a coincidence. I'm also having lots of problems with my TMobile UK Rom, same freezing, etc.
I have seen quite a few Roms that I'd be interested, but most of them don't mention whether they will work with a locked T-Mobile handset, and if they do, it only refers to TMobile US version.
Will any Rom work on a T-Mobile UK locked handset, or would I also have to flash a new radio. I have 2.07.50 at the moment.
Like I said, I've seen quite a few Roms that I like, but just concerned in case I flash a Rom that's not compatible.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Silencer23 said:
Wooo Hoo ! This phone is ON FIRE now
Now we're talking !!
Thanks man ! Any more tips ? hehe
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if you have a wifi router in your house get wifi remote access. It allows you to transfer files to and from the phone using a web interface over the wifi. It also allows you to edit the registry "remotely". Really handy little tool that.
Also have a look at omarket. some handy tools can be got from there but be careful not everything is Leo compatible.
Coreplayer is handy if you wanna watch tv shows or movies. just set the video mode to raw frambuffer if the picture looks scrambled. This one isn't free but is definitely worth paying for coz tcpmp (it's free cousin) isn't as good. I also use srs WOWHD with this to improve the sound. look for 1.5 V2.
The only more i can say is use a PIM backup tool regularly. something like MS myphone or PIMBackup. Saves some time if you don't have an exchange server to store you contacts, mail etc

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What a coincidence. I'm also having lots of problems with my TMobile UK Rom, same freezing, etc.
I have seen quite a few Roms that I'd be interested, but most of them don't mention whether they will work with a locked T-Mobile handset, and if they do, it only refers to TMobile US version.
Will any Rom work on a T-Mobile UK locked handset, or would I also have to flash a new radio. I have 2.07.50 at the moment.
Like I said, I've seen quite a few Roms that I like, but just concerned in case I flash a Rom that's not compatible.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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My advice to you would be to stick to a rom that says it is tmous compatible. that way it will work on any leo but the phone will still be sim locked. so if you wanted to sim unlock it you would need to get an unlock code from TMOUK