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My tytn require a quite large amount of time to wake up and I was wondering if I was the only one in this case.
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.
The virtual keyboard used for inputing the code is also getting on my nerv; most of the time it start with the landscape layout (without any reason) and it take 2 sec to adjust to the portrait layout; during that time it is hard for me to input my code correctly because the size of the key is changing.
So, 2-4 seconds for waking up plus 2 seconds for keyboard adjustement is in my opinion quite slow. Am I the only one experiencing this? Are there fixes out there?
I also have some trouble with notification; it wake the device up! If the device is not password protected (only after 15 minutes on my phone) it start most of the time PIE (because of the hardware button). All this lead so to my second question: Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
Thank you in advance !
fun_key said:
Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
Thanks for your fast answer, i ll give a try!
Concerning the screen orientation issue I found out that it is related to the HTC case magnet.
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In fact it was already configured like this; the device is not waked up by the hardware buttons, but by the notifications.
if you use the key lock you can avoid unwanted key presses. As for wake up times. I don't think anyone who has this device wants to admit that it takes to long cause they paid sooo much for it. However, I will admit that it does take a long time to wake up. I am comfortable saying this because its much like a turbo car, at first its not as fast as most naturally aspirated cars (turbo lag), then it blows their doors off. So it takes a couple seconds to wake up, then its faster then most other devices.
Later, Lew
Agreed. Coming from standby I get two rings of the "Old Phone" ringtone before it goes to voice mail.
I am hoping that new firmware will resolve this issue - my wizard was certainly more responsive when i presses the poer button to bring it out of standby. This is furthur delayed by the fact that i keep scabbling around the top of the device for the power button insted of the side!
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
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This doesn't help with the particular problem. What I think fun_key is trying to say is that whenever he gets a notification (for example when he gets a new sms message or a notification for a meeting) the phone will come out of sleep mode, so the key lock setting for "when device is off" won't be in effect. Instead the device will be powered up and accepting all keypresses, like the IE / Messaging- buttons, not to mention any presses on the screen.
I too find this annoying, and wish there was a way to make the phone go back to sleep after showing me a notification, instead of waiting for the default sleep time to go by. There are programs out there that have this functionality (for example MortSaver) though, so my advice would be to use those.
- Pud.0
thank for the mortsaver ip; i ll give a try!
Have exactly the same problems as fun_key (power button, keyboard in landscape, etc), and I suspect most of other people do. The wizard was definitely more responsive.
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It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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g00nerz said:
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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Glad your problem is solved. Perhaps others may find the following of note as well as your solution above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-258109.html
Mike
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Hi team
I have the same issue, every time i turn my hermes on after its been off for more than say 30seconds it starts in landscape mode then switches to portraite mode, its driving me mad, at least i now know i am not the only person. maybe this will be fixed in the next rom update, fingers crossed aye
UPDATE: i also found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286552&highlight=standby+landscape
does anyone have any thoughts on his comments?
I actually think that the reply in the thread i posted above is correct,
My Hermes is an IMATE JASJAM (same thing of course) and i use the original belt holder that came with it, it has two (2) magnets in it to keep the cover shut, when ever i get a msg and i pull it out of the case (turns on automatically to show me the msg) its always comes out in landscape mode.
I turned my phone on and passed the cover with magnet side down over the phone and sure enough as i did that the screen changed from portrait to landscape mode, thus confirming its the magnet that causes it and not a defect with the phone.
Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
I agree, its not the most convenient.
Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit
You'll get used to it in no time!
Trackball method does not work for me.
doesnt work for me either, the tracker ball would be nice...
did you change an option for that?
The track ball doest do it for me either. I don't mind using the button on top of the phone. I've always used HTC phones and a lot of them use the button on top to wake it up. You should get used to it pretty quick.
Damn, I was hoping the trackball would work... I disliked this about the Droid as well. It takes two hands to unlock the phone, doesn't it? The G1 and MT3G methods were better.
shouldn't we be able to remap the button pressed to work with the trackball? (with root access that is)
i agree...im not liking the top button to wake up the phone...trackball does not wake it for me either...
CLOCK APP
I just realized if you open the clock application, and let the phone go to sleep, then you can "Turn it on" with the trackball or volume rocker.
Now if there was a way to have the phone set to "Sleep = Clock" we'd be golden; the clock screen doen't look that bad, either.
I will say, the button placement on the top is much better than the Motorola droid. I was worried myself, but I got used to it super fast, and it isn't an issue at all.
(Former G1 owner, used to just pressing menu twice)
Just download "Keyguard Disabler" from the Android Market. It will allow you to use the trackball to turn the screen back on.
The screen is capacitive touch, and so is the "hardware" buttons.
If you want to be able to power up the phone from sleep with these buttons, that would require the capacitive touchscreen to be active while the phone is sleeping.
Wouldn't that affect the battery life?
iifuzz said:
Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
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Agreed. look here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613864&page=2
David1171 has a partial solution. Problem is I'm guessing, that there is no way to setup a double tap. Maybe someone knows.
I'm hoping that a future release of spare parts will have a setting for both a double or triple tap of the track bar to wake up, with or without the slide lock. ( I think that the slide lock would be less annoying if the track ball woke it up first instead of the poorly located power button) Also I am hoping that it will have settings to adjust the trackball notification flash speed and color for different google apps.
Just to let you know:
There is a thread about the trackball for wakeup thing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5337345
I got used to it pretty fast, its funny my other phone is a G1 and i find myself trying to unlock it by pushing up top all the time now haha, just become instinct.
I've heard a lot of people say they have trouble unlocking the Nexus One with one hand, but personally I have no trouble unlocking the device with one hand... with either hand.
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Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit
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This person does not own a Nexus One.
Lockbot from market. Don't need pro, the free version will do.
Dunno why they copied the iPhone with the slide to unlock, with the magic its so easy you press the power button which is near the trackball then press menu.
It would be great if you could just press trackball then menu button to unlock.
is there any way to just press on the screen to wake it up other then pressing the power button or trackball? if anyone has used an iphone i am looking for simply touch the screen to wake it up and sliding to unlock skipping trackball or power button presses. thanks.
It's possible to wake up the iPhone by touching the screen? Only for jailbroken phones? That's something I've never heard of before.
I don't think that is possible right now, Android would power down the touch sensor to save battery. Just like a stock iPhone does too.
I am interested to know how to do that on the iPhone though, I'd love to do that with my iPod Touch.
ohh thats right i forgot the iphone has to press the home button to wake it up after a long sleep. my iphone is setup to wait the longest time before going into a sleep so if i am waiting for something the backlight turns off and locks the phone but a press on the screen turns on the backlight waits to be unlocked. oh well would be cool to have on n1 though. thanks for the reply.
The program "nolock" in the market makes it so you can use either the trackball or volume buttons to wake the phone. Other than that, I think screen wake would kill your battery. Can't say for sure though.
worth trying this app thanks
Yeah, being an OLED screen, you can't just turn off the backlight. Each pixel is a light all by itself. Otherwise you could probably do the same trick.
No lock or keyguard disabler bypass or disable the lock screen. Root and running a custom rom like CM will let you double click the trackball to unlock the and wake the phone. There is also a menu unlock too.
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
krabman said:
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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Menu wake doesn't do what I believe you may think it does, you still have to press the power button to turn the phone on. Then you press menu to skip the lockscreen.. which in my opinion is not needed. I only said this because you said no hard key will be worn out.. but they still will.
krabman said:
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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what are you using for that?
Funny that because I just went to go hunt that one down and found that you are indeed correct, it only acts as an alternative to slide to unlock, it does not wake up the phone. Sigh.
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what are you using for that?
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
sounds like i must dl it and worth pressing 1 button to wake up without sliding to unlock.
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
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i see one called mylock that says it automatically starts again after device restart. worth a try.
If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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yes i must say it works well. i didnt even try the no luck. it also has more reviews fyi. im keeping it. it also has an addon for something idle. im guessing that idle addon disabled the mylock to enter your security after an x amount of sleep time has passed. sounds ok if u want security enabled i guess but most pay a few cents for it. not for me at this point.
I'm about to exchange my phone, but I wanted to check here if anyone might have seen a similar issue, or have a clean solution to the problem.
If I press the volume rocker (up or down) and the power button simultaneously, then the screen will shut off, and then turn back on to show the lockscreen. The display doesn't timeout, but if I clear the lock screen, then the phone sometimes acts as if the volume rocker is held down. That means if the volume down was depressed, then the phone continuously vibrates.
I was able to recreate the problem at the Sprint store, but I haven't heard of anyone else on the forums being able to do so. Can anyone here recreate the bug?
It seems that this should be a software issue with the screen off procedure, and perhaps a wiping of the original rom might help. So far a factory hard reset using the built-in procedure hasn't cured the issue. Anyone have ideas?
I tried it and it doesn't happen on my phone. I did notice that if I held the volume down that the vibrate would stay on as long as the button was held down.
Ohh, that feels funny and tickles! Hey guys, tell your lady about this feature... Watch sprint get a bunch of shifts with burnt out vibrating motors. Lol
I read about this on the AndroidCentral forums, and I can't get mine to do that. It will sometimes stop the lock process, but it hasn't gotten stuck on vibrate. The other people I read about also said their phones didn't do it.
ah, I was looking for the link and realized that was you (or someone with the same screen name and problem haha) on the other forum, so I'm sure you already know that part.
Yeah, that's me. Just thought I'd try a different audience in case there were some different ideas. Thanks for responding though. Hopefully the exchange won't be for a bug worse than this one like the screen scrolling up while messaging.
The earlier post just made me realize that none of my other phones could ever continuously vibrate. haha. Maybe button free continuous vibration is a feature not a bug?
Did you try a factory reset on the phone?
I was just able to reproduce this easily.
Kinda funny.
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Argh. I just exchanged my phone today and the new one does it too. I talked to an HTC person on the phone while at the store and they hadn't heard of the bug before. They also couldn't get the bug to reproduce, but I think it's just a matter of hitting the buttons enough times and at the right time. I also think the phone has to be in a ringer mode (at least two levels from the lowest setting).
I'm thinking I'm just going to have to get a case to make the rocker volume harder to hit. I think the size of my hands are just perfect for aligning my left thumb on the rocker when I'm powering off with my left index finger.
I did try the factory hard reset too, but no improvement other than it seemed like the odds of reproducing the bug went down a bit.
I don't see why this would be an issue, how often does one hit the volume rocker and the power button simultaneously? I've yet to come across this, and the thought of pressing the two buttons at the same time has never crossed my mind.
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oboroninja said:
I don't see why this would be an issue, how often does one hit the volume rocker and the power button simultaneously? I've yet to come across this, and the thought of pressing the two buttons at the same time has never crossed my mind.
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It would be great if I could claim to be an awesome bug tester, but unfortunately that is not the case. I discovered the bug because I was inadvertently hitting both buttons at once when turning off the display. I have the fortune of my hand being perfectly sized that my left thumb lines up exactly on the volume down rocker when my left index finger is on the power button. Same is true for my right index finger and right ring finger. It actually took me some time to figure out the cause of the continuous vibrate mode.
It would have been nice to replace the phone with a non-buggy version, but for now I'll just have to have better finger coordination haha.
nth_79 said:
It would be great if I could claim to be an awesome bug tester, but unfortunately that is not the case. I discovered the bug because I was inadvertently hitting both buttons at once when turning off the display. I have the fortune of my hand being perfectly sized that my left thumb lines up exactly on the volume down rocker when my left index finger is on the power button. Same is true for my right index finger and right ring finger. It actually took me some time to figure out the cause of the continuous vibrate mode.
It would have been nice to replace the phone with a non-buggy version, but for now I'll just have to have better finger coordination haha.
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Lol understood.
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I've had this happen to me a few times too. It's probably a Sense (or HTC's Android build) bug not a problem with the hardware.
Makes me think of the old joke doc it hurts when i do this. Well dont do that lol
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I cannot stand the fingerprint sensor/power/lock button. Just because, it's ridiculously placed. If it were on either side - fine, that's good, I don't have to hold my phone like a tennis ball.
The placement isn't the main reason I hate the thing, though.. I have two more reasons - reasons which may be resolvable (input appreciated in that department )
1. When you try to unlock the phone, the backlight comes on, but no display.. Have to lock and unlock again. Also happens when ending calls sometimes. - multiple ROMs.
2. ABSOLUTE WORST THING IN THE WORLD - makes me want to inject battery acid in to my eyeballs - fingerprint sensor navigation (as seen in cm7/cm9) - WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DOES THIS EXIST? Not only will it be randomly navigating the screen whenever a finger goes near it, but every time you want to lock the screen - you first have to see an ugly yellow selection indicator fly across the screen.
The good thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that you can disable it. The bad thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that its settings in jokersax11's CM9 are seemingly unavailable.
"com.authentec.Truesuitemobile has stopped working."
I guess this is just me ranting. It is rather annoying, because the CM9 mod in question is rather cool, and I'd love to use it, but I can't ignore that annoying fingerprint sensor navigation.
nthon9 said:
I cannot stand the fingerprint sensor/power/lock button. Just because, it's ridiculously placed. If it were on either side - fine, that's good, I don't have to hold my phone like a tennis ball.
The placement isn't the main reason I hate the thing, though.. I have two more reasons - reasons which may be resolvable (input appreciated in that department )
1. When you try to unlock the phone, the backlight comes on, but no display.. Have to lock and unlock again. Also happens when ending calls sometimes. - multiple ROMs.
2. ABSOLUTE WORST THING IN THE WORLD - makes me want to inject battery acid in to my eyeballs - fingerprint sensor navigation (as seen in cm7/cm9) - WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DOES THIS EXIST? Not only will it be randomly navigating the screen whenever a finger goes near it, but every time you want to lock the screen - you first have to see an ugly yellow selection indicator fly across the screen.
The good thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that you can disable it. The bad thing about fingerprint sensor navigation is that its settings in jokersax11's CM9 are seemingly unavailable.
"com.authentec.Truesuitemobile has stopped working."
I guess this is just me ranting. It is rather annoying, because the CM9 mod in question is rather cool, and I'd love to use it, but I can't ignore that annoying fingerprint sensor navigation.
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I think there are mods around that can make you use the volume button as unlock button, also you can try other lockscreen app that can simulate this also.
1. I have no issue with this. Have tried many ROMs.
2. I think disabling the navigation should not make any problem, somethings must be wrong with your setup. But I have only used CM7, haven't try CM9 yet so not sure if CM9 behave differently with this disabling fingerprint navigation.
kennytung said:
I think there are mods around that can make you use the volume button as unlock button, also you can try other lockscreen app that can simulate this also.
1. I have no issue with this. Have tried many ROMs.
2. I think disabling the navigation should not make any problem, somethings must be wrong with your setup. But I have only used CM7, haven't try CM9 yet so not sure if CM9 behave differently with this disabling fingerprint navigation.
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The problem with using the volume keys to unlock is that I use my phone as an mp3 player, and actually use the volume controls while the phone is locked in my pocket - though I have tried it, and I don't have the issue with the screen not waking properly when I do. ;x
Here's a thought
If u don't like it that much get an Atrix 2. Not trying to be a **** but it's a thought.
The rest of the phone is great, though.
& the Atrix 4G seems to outperform the Atrix 2, so I don't think that'd be the phone I'd consider, if I were to make a change. ;o
I have no problem with the placement of the fingerprintreader/unlockbutton and i have absolutly normal hands.
But the problem with the fingerprintnavigation can be solved easily.
Just go to setting-device settings- fingerprint sensor navigation and change "NAV Enable" to disable.
And after a restart your problem is solved.
But in the moment this is only possible with CM 7 , in CM 9 you can't disable it in the moment.
I'm pretty sure you can set the volume buttons to adjust the volume and have it as the "wake" key. What would happen is you would have to press the volume button once and then you can adjust the volume while it's still on the "lockscreen". Then after you get to the volume you want the lockscreen will shut off after about 3 seconds. You would still have to "slide to unlock" to completely "wake" the phone up.
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The problem with using the volume keys to unlock is that I use my phone as an mp3 player, and actually use the volume controls while the phone is locked in my pocket - though I have tried it, and I don't have the issue with the screen not waking properly when I do. ;x
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Yeah, that's what's bothering me, haha.
CM9 is looking fantastic, had a play around with it last night, but that fingerprint sensor nav is an absolute deal breaker.
Have you never attempted to look at your phone whilst laying down, gone to unlock it, and have it drop on your face? I really find the button placement awkward. Maybe that's just me. Haha.
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I'm pretty sure you can set the volume buttons to adjust the volume and have it as the "wake" key. What would happen is you would have to press the volume button once and then you can adjust the volume while it's still on the "lockscreen". Then after you get to the volume you want the lockscreen will shut off after about 3 seconds. You would still have to "slide to unlock" to completely "wake" the phone up.
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Ah, I also forgot to mention that I use the volume keys for track skipping (hold) - I thought I read somewhere that enabling volume key unlock would disable the track skipping function.
I just noticed you mention using CM9 so my experience is off of CM7 but I think the "volume unlock" and "track skipping" can be enabled at the same time, which is why it requires a "hold". But, again, it could be a different story on CM9 (as of now anyways, while it's in alpha).
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Ah, I also forgot to mention that I use the volume keys for track skipping (hold) - I thought I read somewhere that enabling volume key unlock would disable the track skipping function.
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I like the finger-print sensor and placement of the button....
What do you like about the fingerprint sensor?
I see it as being a little bit pointless on a *TOUCHSCREEN* phone..
Obviously, these are just my opinions, and everybody has their own.
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What do you like about the fingerprint sensor?
I see it as being a little bit pointless on a *TOUCHSCREEN* phone..
Obviously, these are just my opinions, and everybody has their own.
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I always looked at it as a thing to show your friends. But then the excitement goes away pretty fast after that. Sorta a dumb bell/whistle
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Just want to clarify - I'm not talking about the fingerprint unlock function - that's pretty cool.
Regardless, the sensor nav. should definitely be an optional extra (flashable .zip).
Whoever decided it needed to be included in every single CM release needs to go back in time and decide differently, lol.
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Just want to clarify - I'm not talking about the fingerprint unlock function - that's pretty cool.
Regardless, the sensor nav. should definitely be an optional extra (flashable .zip).
Whoever decided it needed to be included in every single CM release needs to go back in time and decide differently, lol.
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Oh I agree. The way I hold my phone causes alot of accidental navigation.
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you can turn the fingerprint nav off though...
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you can turn the fingerprint nav off though...
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Not currently possible in CM9.
Also, it shouldn't be something you have to turn off. As I said before, I think it makes much more sense for it to be a flashable extra.
Weird. I disabled that navigation in CM9. Try entering the menu in landscape. If it force closes, keep trying!
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Weird. I disabled that navigation in CM9. Try entering the menu in landscape. If it force closes, keep trying!
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What CM9 release are you running? I've tried the latest from jokersax & turl, and I can't get it off in either lol
I am still on cm7 but on cm9 does the fingerprint sensor not work?