Obviously, there are differences with the stock rom that will come with either version. However, as I am planning to flash around a bit, this won't matter.
However I've heard that on a branded device, if I flash a different rom then accept an OTA update it will simlock my phone. Is this correct? If so, then will getting an unbranded device be better?
Thanks.
Let's also assume the T-Mobile phone is initially locked and I have to purchase a code to unlock it.
Bump - would really like to get a response on this matter.
I don't know the answer to your question, but my Galaxy is from T mobile and is unbranded and unlocked out of the box.
My SGS is from T-Mobile UK, but I can't really answer your question either.
I can say that the device is both externally and internally unbranded (I can't say about SIM locks, but I assume it has one). No splash screens, no "Web'n'Walk" Internet icon. The firmware supplied is:
PDA: I9000XXJF4
PHONE: I9000XXJF3
CSC: I9000TMUJE6
Only the CSC is custom, I'm guessing just because it comes set up with the T-Mobile APN settings etc.
What I'm interested in is whether, if I made a nandroid backup, what base ROM I'd need to return to the phone to stock.. JF3 is the only one available it seems.
I've just bought a T-Mobile UK SGS on ebay, brand new, still sealed, it was an 'unwanted upgrade'.
I can confirm there is no branding that I've found so far, and there is no sim lock (I'm using it on O2, everything working fine right out the box), I don't know if this is the same for all the SGS that T-Mobile are selling.
another one - even the box was unbranded.
No W'n'W application as I was expecting even!
Completely unlocked.
Ok
I keep seeing a lot of new topics here and it's all so very confusing. I would appreciate a bit of light about the HTC surround. I don't mind to donate if someone could put me in the right direction.
1. is it possible to flash it/un-brand it?
2.is the HTC HD 7 Rom working on the surround?
These are my Surround specs: Form "Telus"
Os version: 7.0.7004.0
Firmware version number: 2250.09.10307.661
hardware revision number: 0003
Radio software version: 5.51.09.08_22.31.50.09U
radio hardware version: A.26.0.D4
Bootloader version: 1.3.2250.7(111288)
Chip SOC version: 2.2.50
No and no.
The Surround does not have an official HTC ROM with which you can debrand it.
The HD7 and Surround are different devices. Drivers and all are different.
Thanks ,
at least now it's clear.
I have another question. Lets say i have an HTC HD 7 then, locked with a certain carrier and i reflash/debrand it. Will i be able to use any simcard in it? or do i have to use an unlock code anyway?
Sim unlocking and carrier id unlocking are two different animals. Keep in mind, if you want to use an HD7 on a Telus network then you will not have 3G service as the bands are differnt for T-Mobile than for Telus and AT$T.
guide to flash rom properly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164377&page=2
hope this helps cheers!
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Hi all
Ive just bought a 2nd hand Optimus 7, which i was sold as "Sim Free" but it turns out its an unlocked Orange (Says Carrier: Orange in Settings. Im on Virgin Mobile (uk).
Ive updated to OS: 7392 fine through Zune, yet when I go to LG Apps, I cant download any apps as it says I need to connect and update through Zune, but Zune says both Phone and SOftware is uptodate.
My Specs are:
os: 7.0.7392.0 / FW: 1.0.8.10 / HW. 1.0.0.0 / Radio Sw. 1.0.8.10 / Radio HW. 0.3.5.0 / Bootloader: 1.5.1.0 / Chip SOC. 0.30.2.0
Any Advice Thanks
Night
Thread Closed, New related question opened Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208421
Night
UPDATE: New information found/needs finding
Dell Venue Pro fw - XDA wiki
Introduction:
I dont own a VP but I do own/have access to every other 2nd gen dell device (2nd gen as by from dell, not the cpus of course)
The VP is the only one I have no info on, and it's also the only wp7 device in the entire lineup.
I've also never used an actual wp7 device, closest I've come is the html5 demo they published earlier.
What I'm interested in:
The version numbers from about/version screen or whatever it's called for officially updated devices. I know you can manually/force update the OS itself but that's not what I'm interested in.
What to report:
Code:
OS Version:
Carrier:
Firmware version:
Radio version:
Bootloader version:
I've already got a few common versions listed, dell uses mostly the same type of versioning scheme as they do for android.
'Carrier' should be what your phone reports and not what your actual carrier is.
Facts:
0xx - Prototype roms(?) (though there's many wp7 launch ones that had this, esp bought from the MS stores)
1xx - Early WP7
2xx - Pre-NoDo(?)/NoDo and newer
The bootloader seems to be unchanged from launch, and the baseband has a single update, possibly during the 1xx -> 2xx changeover.
xxxx.15xx.xxxx.xxx -> 2.2.50.15
xxxx.18xx.xxxx.xxx -> 2.2.50.18
doesnt seem like a coincidence.
These are of course for the firmwares themselves, and not the main OS. From what I've read the OS itself is somewhat independent of the firmware bundle.
The main reason that all devices arnt immediately updated is due to the manu confirming their firmware works/possibly needs updates(?)
Released OS/firmware bundles have been tested, you can force update the OS and hope it works with the already installed firmware(?)
TheManii said:
Code:
OS Version:7.10.7720.68
Carrier:TMO-US
Firmware version:2250.1800.7720.219
Radio version:2.2.50.18
Bootloader version:7.27.1.0
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'Region type' should actually be carrier, by what i've seen i'm going to guess yours will say GENERIC-EU?
I'll fix the first post
Unlocked AT&T band DVP:
OS Version:7.10.7740.16
Carrier:GENERIC-US
Firmware revision number:2250.1800.7720.219
Hardware revision number:112.576.2.0
Radio software version:2.2.50.18
Radio hardware version: 8250
Bootloader version:7.27.1.0
Chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0
jhoff80 said:
Unlocked AT&T band DVP:
OS Version:7.10.7740.16
Carrier:GENERIC-US
Firmware revision number:2250.1800.7720.219
Hardware revision number:112.576.2.0
Radio software version:2.2.50.18
Radio hardware version: 8250
Bootloader version:7.27.1.0
Chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0
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I was wondering if there was a GENERIC-US one, I havnt seen any screenshots of one on google, thanks! I'm guessing there's also a ATT-US one, just havnt seen an actual one yet.
TheManii said:
I was wondering if there was a GENERIC-US one, I havnt seen any screenshots of one on google, thanks! I'm guessing there's also a ATT-US one, just havnt seen an actual one yet.
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that's not a carrier code. he's saying his phone is sim unlocked.
here's a partial list of carrier codes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20259723&postcount=184
Never locked unbranded UK device:
OS Version:7.10.7740.16
Carrier:GENERIC-EU
Firmware revision number:2250.1800.7720.219
Hardware revision number:112.576.2.0
Radio software version:2.2.50.18
Radio hardware version: 8250
Bootloader version:7.27.1.0
Chip SOC version: 0.36.2.0
It not have wi-fi tehering.
Unlocking it changes the displayed code now?
I assumed it remained the same as on the venue the code determines the available features (ie mainly if tethering is enabled or not, though the vp does not have working tethering by default regardless(?) )
On the venue unlocking has no visble effect except for the fact you can insert a foreign sim card. I'm assuming a locked to unlocked att one would still display att?
I'm going to go on a limb and assume that ALL vps have the same bootloader, i've yet to see one that isnt 7.27.1.0 from fw vers 029 to 219
Wetherx: as unlike the android dell's there's no way for me to check the update paths of the various combinations, are you intentionally on 7720 and not 7740 or has it not offered the upgrade for you?
If it were the venue I could check by navigating over to:
Code:
http://mobileupdate.dell.com/?version=GTOUB1A132500
as 325 is the latest 00/retail rom for the it.
Such a concept doesnt exist in wp7. You would need to check on the device or in zune(?)
SIM unlock does not change carrier code. i'm using a tmo-us dvp on at&t, btw.
i never got the 7740 update prompt. as sad as it sounds, windows phone updates are handled by carrier, not mfr. as of now, phones need to be connected to zune via usb to check for updates.
OS Version: 7.10.8107.79
Carrier: GENERIC-US
Firmware version: 2250.1800.7720.219
Radio software version: 2.2.50.18
Bootloader version: 7.27.1.0
Apparently, the VP also has a hidden version string like all other 2/3rd gen Dell devices,
my new VP is: GLEOS2A421933_S
LEO is the qisda codename
2A4 is the submodel
219 is the FW version
33 is the tmo region
_S is AWS?
Dell Update Process
Contains information if anyone is actually interested.
If any other users could report in their version string i'd be interested.
I'm aware of dell having to recall VP launch models because of bad wifi, I wonder if all VPs are 2A4 devices.
The normal process is that submodel numbers never change unless they are hardware changes (ie the Streak 7 is the only one that has currently has multiple submodels because they physically contain different modem models for each region, others like the Streak 5 have the same modem, they only have different amps for each region/cell band groupings)
If it were the Venue, it would be
-AWS
-US
on the end of the version string to determine the 3g varient, my VP is "_S"
I wonder what a US model would be, and if EU AWS models are the same
I'm guessing from previous knowledge:
00: US-generic unlocked VPs?
20: EU-generic unlocked VPs?
30: US-generic unlocked VPs?
31: At&t locked/branded VPs?
33: Tmo locked/branded VPs (I can confirm this one)
An equivilent Venue rom of age and type would be thus:
GTOUB1A132500-US
TOU is the qisda codename (toucan)
1A1 is the submodel (all V's are 1A1)
325 is the rom version (a 2.2.2 rom)
00 is the region (unbranded/retail)
-US is the cell varient (ie at&t bands UMTS850/1900)
If anyone is willing to go into the EM app and check it's a very simple thing to do:
Open the dialer
Type "##634#" (without the quotes)
Select Phone Information
The "SW version" string contains what I'm interested in
FW Version
OEM Version (or rather it's equivilent from android to WP7)
Carrier version
Afterwards the EM app may appear in your app list, it was always on your device but was merely hidden. I would not recommend removing it.
TheManii said:
GLEOS2A421933_S
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mine DVP too has the same version. mine is a unlocked DVP TMO-US
so under security it shows Unlock
Ah so it might be the lock code and not simply the carrier version.
I'm looking for some help upgrading my Android version on my Note 3. The problem is that my phone was previously locked to ATT and is from the US, however I purchased it on eBay about 18 months ago and use it in the UK on Virgin. The device has been unlocked and I think it's rooted - it was unlocked with a code provided by the eBay seller and should work with any network - it's at least working with Virgin instead of ATT. The phone has an ATT mark on the back.
I've been putting this off for a while now because my knowledge of messing about with Android is very limited and I'm concerned that if I upgrade to a newer version of Android (currently 4.3), that my phone may lock back to ATT and I may be unable to use it.
To summarise, I would like to upgrade to the latest version of Android with TouchWiz, without region locking creating problems. Can anyone help?
Specs:
Model: SM-N900A
Android Version: 4.3
Baseband version: N900AUCUBMJ5
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