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Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.
Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?
Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
gtg465x said:
You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.
I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.
we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .
How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.
I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.
any suggestions...... ive been seeing people get 1.5 GHZ sooo i kinda feel bad lol. And b4 anyone says anything i know 1.3 GHZ isnt bad lol
Not every phone can overclock the same. I personally wouldn't keep the phone over 1.2 ghz. Other than fooling around there isn't much reason to clock it higher.
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Check out the android development section. There is a VERY lengthy thread about this stuff.
Every phone is diff I can't overclock more than 1.3 also
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Yep just like everyone says.....it's all built differently. I personally would keep mines at 1Ghz or 1.1Ghz. It's fast enough at 800MHz. Maybe occasionally just to make myself feel good, I'd run 1.2Ghz. Just imagine what 800MHz or 1GHz will be like when a optimized custom ROM can be installed....Stupid FAST!!
1.46 Ghz here since the OC was discovered..
No problem yet, battery life almost never changed, and I'm loving it.
As others have said, it varies. Not every processor will overclock the same, which is why these are sold at a slower speed than possible.
My friend and I bought the same PC processors at the same time. Mine overclocks to 3.6ghz, and I could only get 3.2ghz with his. Nothing is perfectly identical
Hey everyone...I tell ya, I sure am enjoying all these awesome custom roms and kernels. Great job to all the developers here, putting in the blood, sweat, and tears for the advancement of the community, thank you so much. One feature that I saw in a Xoom build was the GPU overclocked, and while I'm sure it won't interest everyone, and there is probably only little gain to be had from it, I would love to have the option to oc the CPU and the GPU for the highest performance possible...please. Well I think that covers it unless someone else shares my desire to see this feature. Thanks for all your work and consideration XDA and have a great day.
if ur CPU OC than GPU too
Apparently not so on the Motorola Xoom as there are two versions of Tiamat 1.4.4... with and without GPU OC. Tiamat 1.4.4 Full Throttle
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Apparently not so on the Motorola Xoom as there are two versions of Tiamat 1.4.4... with and without GPU OC. Tiamat 1.4.4 Full Throttle
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oc-ing the gpu doesnt get you anything... gpu is default 200mhz 2d with 300mhz in 3d and it can be uped to 250mhz 2d and 400mhz 3d but it cant be software controlled and it will eat more power...
and no oc-ing the cpu doesn't oc the gpu, its a separate part of the tegra2 processor
Hey Thor, thanks for joining the conversation. Based on what youve seen so far, how well are the tegra GPU cores being utilized? Suffice to say I've pulled off insane desktop GPU overclocks that showed almost nill gain with drivers that werent mature in which the GPU cores werent being loaded past 50% . I realize that the tegra is a horse of a different color, but isnt it still affected by the specific driver optimizations, hence the THD enhancements? Just out of curiosity as I very much trust your experience. I am still interested in trying it with definitive comparisons to follow...well about as definitive as synthetic benchmarks can be anyway.
I just saw that you have a new beta... Yay. I cant wait to give it a whirl.
I have been over locked for a little while. Max I have done is 1506 but it tends to be slightly unstable. I run 1400 now and haven't had any issues. biggest difference I notice is home screen transitions load fast and don't lag and programs load much quicker. there doesnt seem to be any games that will push the CPU hard so I don't notice much of a difference there.
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I have been over locked for a little while. Max I have done is 1506 but it tends to be slightly unstable. I run 1400 now and haven't had any issues. biggest difference I notice is home screen transitions load fast and don't lag and programs load much quicker. there doesnt seem to be any games that will push the CPU hard so I don't notice much of a difference there.
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I've had 1600mhz going strong with no instability, benchmark after benchmark, the only issue I've had is the device shutting down when left alone for too long, but I consider that a useful standard function. Otherwise 1600 performance has been rock solid. I decided to take it upon myself to take this girl apart' clean the CPU off, remove the thermal pad, and apply some as5....though the chip didnt really run very hot to begin with. Now until I have the option to go for 1800mhz, I'd like to see where the max threshold is for cpu/gpu oc.
I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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oc-ing the gpu doesnt get you anything... gpu is default 200mhz 2d with 300mhz in 3d and it can be uped to 250mhz 2d and 400mhz 3d but it cant be software controlled and it will eat more power...
and no oc-ing the cpu doesn't oc the gpu, its a separate part of the tegra2 processor
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Can only the 3D Clocks be altered without touching 2D? If yes can you make such a version of the ........... that "nobody" knows anything about?
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I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/device20110712225412.png/
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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Very nice quadrant score man, I used to score alot higher until I updated to stock 3.1+ updates. It seems like the higher my OS version number gets, the lower my synthetic performance gets overall.
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I've had 1600mhz going strong with no instability, benchmark after benchmark, the only issue I've had is the device shutting down when left alone for too long, but I consider that a useful standard function. Otherwise 1600 performance has been rock solid. I decided to take it upon myself to take this girl apart' clean the CPU off, remove the thermal pad, and apply some as5....though the chip didnt really run very hot to begin with. Now until I have the option to go for 1800mhz, I'd like to see where the max threshold is for cpu/gpu oc.
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that's what mine did. it would reboot while sleeping. sometimes it would be 3 or 4 times in an hour.
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I have mine overclocked also at 1600.. Runs very stable at this speed and benchmarks not too bad:
I have had higher speeds, but very unstable...
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Wow!
Umm, what rom do you guys run for this? I'm on rooted and CWMd stock 3.1 rom. Can't find a OC kernel for it. Only one I can find is for ASUS based roms. I prefer to keep stock rom if it's possible.
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nexgenasian said:
Wow!
Umm, what rom do you guys run for this? I'm on rooted and CWMd stock 3.1 rom. Can't find a OC kernel for it. Only one I can find is for ASUS based roms. I prefer to keep stock rom if it's possible.
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You should try richardtrip's kernel. His kernel is keep updating Very good performance and stability.
thats the kernel i am using o/c 1400 works very well. you can find it in the development thread.
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You should try richardtrip's kernel. His kernel is keep updating Very good performance and stability.
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Thanks! Works great. Do you feel the HoneyVillian rom runs faster with the v2.4 Kernel or about the same as stock Acer 3.1 HC rom with v2.4 Kernel?
So far I can keep stable at 1.5 after 2 hours of use. It's also slept for 30 mins and seems ok at that too.
Also what kind of Scaling do you guys use? Ondeman, Interactive? On my phone I use ondemand.
So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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So in CM7 there is an option to overclock the Desire Z.
Now my question is if I can do this without having to worry about damaging my phone?
For example, the desire Z has a 800MHZ processor, so will it damage my phone to overclock it to 1000MHZ? Or maybe 1200 MHZ?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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Sorry, I'm really a noob, but what kernel do I have with CM7?
And where can I get other kernels?
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sorry but i dont sure CM7, im using virtuous unity rom so i wouldnt know. but im sure your using the stock kernel that comes with cm7. just ask someone who has cm7. also there are a wide variety of kernels that you can use. just search them up on google or the xda developer forums
The CM 7 Kernal will allow you to overclock up to 1.5ghz (which for the DZ/G2 seems to be the consensus of a 'safe' overclock)
One thing to remember is that not all processors are created equal. Meaning that although we all have the same processor in our phone, some processors are able to handle overclocking better than others. It also depends on what you use your phone for and how much you need the overclock for what you are doing. I ran my device at 1.2 ghz for a while and now run it at 1ghz as it feels plenty fast to me. When playing some graphic intensive games, a higher overclock may help performance as well.
If you overclock and your phone starts to act up, then dial it down a bit. 1.5ghz is fast as hell but will alter voltage and affect battery life as well. Just play around with and see where you like your CPU speed to be at. But you shouldn't have to worry about damaging the processor by overclocking. If its more than it can handle, you will know quickly and can tone it down.
So just for example if I'm going to use Virtious(I quit because it's lagging on the Desire Z) and install this kernel and overclock my desire z up to 1,500 mhz, virtious should run way smoother, right?
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well it depends if your kernel allows overclocking to that speeds. if it dosent its very risky but if it does support it then its not that risky. for me i have e kernel that goes to 1.7 ghz so i safely clocked it to 1.5 ghz
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if your kernel doesn't support overclocking, you can't overclock no matter what... there is nothing "unsafe" about overclocking without an overclocking kernel because it cannot be done.
OP: cyanogen has its own overclocking kernel (with capability up to 1516mhz) built-in. as far as safety, it depends on your device, but the most common worst-case scenario is random restarting issues or waking issues.
on CM7, with a launcher other than the bundled ADW launcher which is choppy and slow no matter how high you're clocked, you should be able to have a smooth experience at stock speeds. I am clocked at between 1017 and 1209mhz at any given point as I have been since January and I haven't ever experienced wake or random reboot issues. YMMV but I think the general consensus for the Vision is that a mild overclock is very safe.
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
whitis said:
HELP!
I overclocked my DZ, but didn't really notice any difference, since CM7 is pretty smooth without overclocking, but know suddenly my device begins to lag very very bad. I put the CPU limit back to 245MHZ to 806MHZ but it keeps lagging:-(
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which governor are you using? which launcher? have you rebooted?
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I recently flashed franco.kernel onto my 16GB Nexus 4 (rooted, PA3+) and I overclocked it, but I was wondering how far I can go. I heard about a possible 2GHZ overclock but I'm not sure what kernel that uses. Any suggestions?
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I recently flashed franco.kernel onto my 16GB Nexus 4 (rooted, PA3+) and I overclocked it, but I was wondering how far I can go. I heard about a possible 2GHZ overclock but I'm not sure what kernel that uses. Any suggestions?
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no one can run 2ghz on their nexus 4
nvm.
simms22 said:
no one can run 2ghz on their nexus 4
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A test kernel someone made awhile back when the nexus first came out it ran fine at 2ghz was a little hot at times but it worked :laugh:
Well, what is the highest that I would be able to overclock my Nexus, anyway? franco goes up to 1.7, I'm wondering whether it's possible to go any higher. And if I could go any higher, what kernel would I have to use? I'm just quite curious.
Faux has one that goes to 1.9 i think
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Faux has one that goes to 1.9 i think
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test it. it doesnt test as a 1.9 kernel no matter how hard you try, its not really 1.9ghz. a 1.9ghz clocked cpu, will test like a 1.9 ghz cpu, not a 1.7ghz cpu. there are other kernels that go to 1.944ghz also, they test like 1.944ghz. but that doesnt matter, most phones will not be able to run at a "real" 1.944ghz.
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test it. it doesnt test as a 1.9 kernel no matter how hard you try, its not really 1.9ghz. a 1.9ghz clocked cpu, will test like a 1.9 ghz cpu, not a 1.7ghz cpu. there are other kernels that go to 1.944ghz also, they test like 1.944ghz. but that doesnt matter, most phones will not be able to run at a "real" 1.944ghz.
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Mine runs at 1.944 just fine, with an undervolt of 150 across the board
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Mine runs at 1.944 just fine, with an undervolt of 150 across the board
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bench it, show me that it benches like 1944mhz. just because it says 1.9ghz, doesnt mean it actually is. that can be faked. 1944mhz will bench like 1944mhz, 1836mhz will bench like 1836mhz, and so on. if it benches like 1.7, 1.6, 1.5ghz, then its not 1.9ghz. sure benchmarks dont show real world use, but they do show what speed you are testing by their results. we know what range each speed should test at. fauxs' 1.9ghz doesnt test where 1.9ghz should test at, and faux has been caught before, on other devices, showing that the device is running at a higher speed when actually isnt.
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bench it, show me that it benches like 1944mhz. just because it says 1.9ghz, doesnt mean it actually is. that can be faked. 1944mhz will bench like 1944mhz, 1836mhz will bench like 1836mhz, and so on. if it benches like 1.7, 1.6, 1.5ghz, then its not 1.9ghz. sure benchmarks dont show real world use, but they do show what speed you are testing by their results. we know what range each speed should test at. fauxs' 1.9ghz doesnt test where 1.9ghz should test at, and faux has been caught before, on other devices, showing that the device is running at a higher speed when actually isnt.
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Its becuase it throttles down when benching, its cause the freq cant stay that high the whole time without risking damaging the board so it throttles down to lower "safer" freq. On real cpu on a computer it has fan speeds to go higher when the temp is to high but that solution is not possible for mobile soc.
franco probably belives that 1.7 is the best possible OC since the throttling wont be that high. I would say that he is right but i prefer the stock speed and never mess with OC on mobile soc. But thats just me
More than often to much OC gives the opposite effect and makes the phone slower because of all the throttling.
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Utacka said:
Its becuase it throttles down when benching, its cause the freq cant stay that high the whole time without risking damaging the board so it throttles down to lower "safer" freq. On real cpu on a computer it has fan speeds to go higher when the temp is to high but that solution is not possible for mobile soc.
franco probably belives that 1.7 is the best possible OC since the throttling wont be that high. I would say that he is right but i prefer the stock speed and never mess with OC on mobile soc. But thats just me
More than often to much OC gives the opposite effect and makes the phone slower because of all the throttling.
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Thanks, I see what you mean now.
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IMO Trinity is probably best for overclocking, but even it can only go up to 1836 MHz. Also, there are risks to OC as well--which ranges from overheating to red light of death to your phone spontaneously combusting. Just letting you know
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