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Will these Tom and root method work on the ATRIX 2??
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I would think no. They are similar but probably use different coding, wait for an atrix 2 forum. I don't understand how they can even call the atrix 2 a successor of the atrix, it has less features! Granted it has a newer SoC and better camera, but less storage, no fingerprint scanner! This phone is of mid range quality for when it was released and should not have been named atrix 2. Maybe atrix S lol.
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I would think no. They are similar but probably use different coding, wait for an atrix 2 forum. I don't understand how they can even call the atrix 2 a successor of the atrix, it has less features! Granted it has a newer SoC and better camera, but less storage, no fingerprint scanner! This phone is of mid range quality for when it was released and should not have been named atrix 2. Maybe atrix S lol.
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Have you seen one in person?
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Have you seen one in person?
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Haven't gone into AT&T recently, but the specs are on their website.
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I actually got one, the build quality feels a bit better and the battery door is leaps and bounds better if you ask me. Has the 8 MP Camera, 1080P inherent video recording. The UI is MUCH better than the Stock Blur UI and you don't have to register out of the box like you do when you have a Blur Rom. Even without a Custom UI and Kernel the phone actually does feel a bit snapper than the original but I am sure others will say the exact opposite considering it is really all based on the user and what they are using the phone for and how many apps are installed etc.
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I actually got one, the build quality feels a bit better and the battery door is leaps and bounds better if you ask me. Has the 8 MP Camera, 1080P inherent video recording. The UI is MUCH better than the Stock Blur UI and you don't have to register out of the box like you do when you have a Blur Rom. Even without a Custom UI and Kernel the phone actually does feel a bit snapper than the original but I am sure others will say the exact opposite considering it is really all based on the user and what they are using the phone for and how many apps are installed etc.
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I'm with you I had both of the phones and the atrix 2 has a much better build quality and the ui is much more responsive it just works
P.S ware is the atrix 2 fourm
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I'm with you I had both of the phones and the atrix 2 has a much better build quality and the ui is much more responsive it just works
P.S ware is the atrix 2 fourm
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It is perfectly understand able that the ui has improved, it has been a while since the atrix release. My point was I don't think they should have made the atrix 2 yet or call this the atrix 2. They took away a key feature that made this phone unique. The SoC upgrade makes the camera HD possible, that's about all I can see. Probably a good phone but not cutting edge like it was beginning this year.
Idk if they have made a dev forum yet, or which devs have this phone. Give it some time and it will most liked happen.
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Also, the screen is much better. It's much nicer at 4.3" (the sweet spot IMHO) and no pentile baloney (according to techworld: link). Just from my subjective experience the screen is much clearer and brighter as well.
Lastly, Best Buy bought back my old atrix for $161, and since I bought my atrix at costco for $20, I got my atrix 2 for -90 dollars.
Hopefully some of the amazing devs get one so we can have some sweet hacking love....
Speaking of which, if I can help any dev by providing some kind of dump or w/e, I'm game, just toss me a PM.
hdmi mirroring enabled
One of the most important thing they did add was hdmi mirroring. So no need to add any hacks or mods to get that enabled and also outputs it with sound.
FYI: atrix 2 doesnt come with hdmi cable.
Motorola used all of the internal space for apps and gave atrix 2 a smaller internal storage. I had to buy a 8gb micro sd card b/c they only provided 2gb card.
Did some benmarks with quadrant the best that i got was 2441 total fps.
Did Linpack benmrk for cpu 64.872 MFLOPS.
Dont like the fact that they didnt do dual band for wireless. (2.4/5ghz). It has autofocus 8MP camera.
Overall not bad for only $49.99 at best buy.
WOOT! Please excuse my terrible spelling!
Ok so as many of you now know i an the pround owner of a galaxy nexus, the latest in the pure google software phones. The nexus seems to be gathering a fair bit of interest around the forum so i thought i will do a cmoparison of the two.
Now it would be silly to comapre benchmarks in quadrant or lin pack packs as we all kow the Nexus will kill te x10 in these (once benchmarking works properly in android 4.0) i have not even attempted a single benchmark at this point.
Screen and display
So to start with i guess alot of you must wonder how it feels in hand being a large phone with 4.65 inch screen, the answer is actually it feels very comfortable and having quite large hands i find it sits in my hand easier than hte x10. Some of you will know the Nexus has a curved screen, this worried me a little but if im honest you can barely tell its curved when your using it. While we are talking about screens not all of you will know that the Nexus is the first device to received a supre amoled HD screen, resoltution of 1280 x 720 (720p basicly) and the display is absolutly georgeus, rich and bright colours, very dark blacks. I did find yesterday when i was first using the phone whites had a kind of mild tint of yellow to them but this seems to be not so bad now, the colour spectrum now looks more normal and natural. Not had any issues so far veiwing in natural daylight outside but it is winter here in Uk and not much light during the day anyway. The screen is of course actual multitouch.
We all know about the x10 buggy dual touch and resolution is 840x450 and its just a normal lcd screen which can be hard at times to see in direct sun and is 4 inches big without 16 million colours. The difference in quality really is amazing, not just because of 16 million colours but the resolution and screen type. They are like chalk and cheese or cheese and chalk which ever you find tastes nicer
Screen scrolling of the Nexus is smoother than silk, i now know what people mean by eye-gasms lol If your interested the gingerbread crt screen screen on / animations are still there plus some that look similar to iphone for turning landscape to portrait or vice versa.
Performance
As previously stated i have not ran any benchmarks yet but the Nexus is a monster when it comes to speed and performance in general, it comes with a 1.2 ghz texus instroments processor. It has actually been under clocked by 300mhz for Nexus, meaning this dc processor is naturalally a 1.5 ghz monster, turned down presumabley to conserve battery. We all know x10 is 1ghz single core snap dragon with current maxium over clock to 1.2 ghz where it gets unstable for most.
Its a little hard to talk about the performace without general benchmarks to give a rough idea but let me tell you there is not a hint of any lag of any kind trying to use pretty much anything. I did find some lag while typing a PM to a good friend here on xda in landscape mode but quite a lot of apps wont have been updated to fully supportive of android 4.0 at this time so any update will sort that. Yesterday i did a full back up of my apps (system and data) and data on the nexus in titanium and it took about 45 seconds to a minute to complete, x10 can take a few minutes some times.
Software
I think everyone here knows the Nexus lauches with android 4.0.1 aka icecream sandwhich. It is very intuitive and easy to use, very easy to navigate and its on a whole other level compared to gingerbread. Espicially with the time taken to make everything look really very beutiful using mainly black, grey and blue with some greens and whites. If anyone is running cyanogenmod 7.1 there is a free icecream sandwhich for theme chooser which gives a a good idea of what to expect.
The launcher nativly supports folders which is very very handy for keeping stuf tidy together and organised. The folders couldnt be simpiler to create, simply drag an icon ontop of another and theres your folder and just keep adding till your heart is content! The launchre reminds me of the arc style one with the bar at the bottom with space for 4 things whch can be changed and folders can be added into these 4 spaces. With hte nexus you get most of the google apps pre installed which is nice, including a new version of google music with built in eq and its beutiful to use. There are also nice sound effects as you go through menus and for certain key presses, not as cheesy as the touchwiz noes or so noicey which annoyed me on touch wiz on sgs2. The software really is the best thing about the nexus
Camera
This is probably what most x10 users including me are concearned about, it has only 5 mp camera. Get the idea out of your head more Mp means better picture. Yes nexus only has 5, but what it does with those 5 is what counts! Pictures are taking almost instantly, google brags over zero shutter lag and i can see why! You can literally get probably about 3 pics in the time it takes to get one off x10! Actual flash is supported, flashes twice for red eye reduction and the led is very very bright, beats x10 photo light by miles. There is a native panorma camera feuture built in to the camera which is nice to use, upto 1080p video recording and 1.3mp front camera. This can be used for face unlock. Yes thats right, face unlock, when hte screen is locked simply point the front cam at your face which it recognises as you and will unlock the phone. I hear your questions about security, yes its not the best in hte world, it will owrk with a photo or if your phone is stolen in your sleep provided its light enough for te caerato see you. Its more of a fun thing at this time!
I will be uploading some sample photos later on for you guys to see. they will be in doors at night in my study where the pc is so excuse any mess in advance!!
Hardware
So i already talked about dual core, and camera but there is a few other things worth mentioning like for example hw buttons, or more to hte point lack of! There is 3 buttons in total on hte outside of the phone, power on (screen controls) and volume up and down rockers. Thats it, dead simple and anymore now i odnt find needed. All the buttons for apps, back and multitask are on screen. I hear another question, wheres menu? To put it simply menu is built in on screen for any apps that use or need it and not shown at all times. The mulittask button is much more functional to just switch between apps in a breeze.
Also worth noting is lack of sd card support. The phone comes in 16gb version or 32 gb (not released yet to my knowledge). The internal storage is lightning fast to brwose through, faster than class 10 sd card so i have read but nothing to back me up on that. I have the 16 gb and its fine for me. This choice may have something to do with googles plans for google music where you will be able to stream music from your library based on pc to your phone anddownload frequently used albums or tracks and eventually buy albums and tracks directly through the android market itsself (already happening in USA).
You will be pleased to hear that the headphones work normally, buy any set with built in mic and they will work without holding in hte mic button for musivc to sound normal, unlike sony you had to hold in hte button if you had decent headphones of your own.
Conclusion
Its the best phone iv ever had, probably one of the best on the market to date and after spending smoe time with it you will not want to use anything else. My x10 has been untouched and unloved for almost 24 hours. I recommend anyof you to get get one. BUT rooting is kind of a pain in hte arse, you have to first unlock bootloader then flash this superboot.img through adb (no recovery as of yet) and it has hard for me to get the drivers needed for fastboot. It took me quite along time to get root and unlocked bootloadre with the help of a dev, had it not been such a pain with the drivers it would of been much much easier and was straight forwards when the drivers were ok. Just so you you know you need working adb on your pc for root and bootloader.
So i hope this is an ok write up with enough detail, its taken mne long enough to type lol If anyone has questions please post and il do my best to answer when i can.
Photos http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22324879/My Pictures.rar sorry for rar xda was not allowing me to upload each individual pic
See page 8 for out door photos
These are uncompressed out door pics
http://db.tt/imOFLLEC
http://db.tt/BOmMEU4r
some handy links for those intrested...
I AM NOT RESPONCIBLE FOR DAMAGE TO ANYONES DEVICE FOR THESE, working adb is required
Good guide to rooting and boot loader unlocking http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362957
This would be the way I'd of chosen if it worked at the time but should be working as of 24/11/11 and will do everything you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356917
You already have yours??? God, I hate you right now Still waiting for mine to be dispatched at least
But thanks for the comparison, i was waiting for a honest review from someone who came from an x10 as well. Now it's even harder for me to wait. Dispatch date should be tomorrow though
Two more questions just came to mind:
- since you're from the UK, do you have the volume mute bug?
- Can you perhaps give or link me to the drivers and stuff that I need for rooting?
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You already have yours??? God, I hate you right now Still waiting for mine to be dispatched at least
But thanks for the comparison, i was waiting for a honest review from someone who came from an x10 as well. Now it's even harder for me to wait. Dispatch date should be tomorrow though
Two more questions just came to mind:
- since you're from the UK, do you have the volume mute bug?
- Can you perhaps give or link me to the drivers and stuff that I need for rooting?
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Yeah took delivery yesterday luch time, been on it as much as i can ever since. Trust me you will find it worth the wait thanks for making my review sound credible and honest. That first try at bashing something out like that. Could you be more specific about the volume mute bug, not sure if i had it, dont think so. My volume doesnt go up and down on by free will if thats what you mean? Will post driver drop box links later on. will aslo dig out some thread of use for fastboot adn rooting boot.img etc etc
Comparing galaxy nexus with x10 doesn't make any sense for me!
But after reading ur thread...phone looks promising though!!
Can you post some photos taken by ur nexus without resizing them??
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3 words for you TGM
I hate you
Z3US911 said:
Comparing galaxy nexus with x10 doesn't make any sense for me!
But after reading ur thread...phone looks promising though!!
Can you post some photos taken by ur nexus without resizing them??
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its not head to head verus, i was trying to write comparing them against each other although we all know which is best. Is devid vs goliath and goliath wins lol Will be addeing photos and a few others bits tonight
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I hate you
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your avatar shows what face id pull if i saw you on the street
much love bro
i do hope you see the funny side of that....
ok so having problems getting photos up, am uploading a dropbox with a zip of photos. Also uploading some useful files like fast boot and drivers. I wont help any one root or unlock their bootloader as i needed a lot of help and frackly i dot wanna risk saying to do the wrong thing. Will update OP asap when all uploads through drop box complete...
Wow, I'm super jelly man! I would also really like the Galaxy Nexus! It looks fine! How is the battery life with constant use compared to our x10? Is it worse, better or the same?
I think I won't be able to buy the Galaxy Nexus this year. My x10 is just over a year old, and I just bought a new gaming PC. I will get one next year I hope so!
I'm really excited for the pictures! Thanks for the great comparison!
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Wow, I'm super jelly man! I would also really like the Galaxy Nexus! It looks fine! How is the battery life with constant use compared to our x10? Is it worse, better or the same?
I think I won't be able to buy the Galaxy Nexus this year. My x10 is just over a year old, and I just bought a new gaming PC. I will get one next year I hope so!
I'm really excited for the pictures! Thanks for the great comparison!
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Battery life isnt too bad, i wont say its amazing and its certainly not rubbish, it depends on how you ue it really and screen brightness and various other settings similar to other phones out there.
Pics are coming but drop box cant decide between 49 mins or 5 mins. will upload asap
drop box for pictures rar in op. pictures taken inside at night time in one room, proably not best picutes to judge the camera from...
How good are you with a camera?
It'd be good to see a side by side comparison of the two phones showing the difference between boot up time, lag, responsiveness, browser speed etc....
That way you can really rub it in and make us mad
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LJE said:
How good are you with a camera?
It'd be good to see a side by side comparison of the two phones showing the difference between boot up time, lag, responsiveness, browser speed etc....
That way you can really rub it in and make us mad
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I'm not too bad, my main down fall is I don't have another camera to film all that on though. The browser is very fast though, lag only happens while typing sometimes on xda otherwise it just flys through everything with ease.
When I can get my hands on my gfs dhd will see if I can come up with a video perhaps.
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Thx for the pics, the camera seems to be quite decent in low light/artificial illumination. X10 always gets blurry when I try to take pics like these. And you seem to have the same problem with X10 The shutter is just too slow after the phone focuses.
And thx for the files too! Now I just have to get my Nexus and figure out how to use these files
Btw. watch out! Now the internez knows your face!
*waiting for scooby snacks*
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qwer23 said:
Thx for the pics, the camera seems to be quite decent in low light/artificial illumination. X10 always gets blurry when I try to take pics like these. And you seem to have the same problem with X10 The shutter is just too slow after the phone focuses.
And thx for the files too! Now I just have to get my Nexus and figure out how to use these files
Btw. watch out! Now the internez knows your face!
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Yeah low light pictures is one of the things this cam does great. In my next post I will attach 2 pics in my bed room, light off curtain shut pitch black without flash then same room and stuff with flash.
For help with your phone there is plenty about on the internet I just don't feel confident enough to help anyone root and do boot loader.
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*waiting for scooby snacks*
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You want scooby? Here, give me a go......
THE X10 IS THE GREATEST PHONE OF ALL TIME.....
That's like his bat signal
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Its like night and day....
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LJE said:
You want scooby? Here, give me a go......
THE X10 IS THE GREATEST PHONE OF ALL TIME.....
That's like his bat signal
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actually loling
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For help with your phone there is plenty about on the internet I just don't feel confident enough to help anyone root and do boot loader.
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No worries man, I'll figure it out I learnt how to root my X10 and Eee Pad Transformer, so the GN should surrender as well sooner or later
@your latest pics: seems to be a very decent flash in there, nice! Btw. can the camera flash twice for red eye reduction? Not that I care too much, just interested...
Just sent my Samsung Galaxy S3 back to T Mobile here in the UK
kept dropping signal on wi fi
totally rubbish sound on video recordings
didnt like the black background on main email section, you cant change it!
loved the screen size but colours look unnatural even when on lowest setting
no way in hell i was staying in a 24 month contract with a phone that isnt what i expected, very disappointing, the video audio was the main decider for me
i think i will wait until Samsung fix these problems, which knowing them will be about 12 months
Supercurio says he can fix the audio in video recording.
I have none of the other problems you list.
You probably should have held on til voodoo was released. Awkward....
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WayneHarris said:
Just sent my Samsung Galaxy S3 back to T Mobile here in the UK
kept dropping signal on wi fi
totally rubbish sound on video recordings
didnt like the black background on main email section, you cant change it!
loved the screen size but colours look unnatural even when on lowest setting
no way in hell i was staying in a 24 month contract with a phone that isnt what i expected, very disappointing, the video audio was the main decider for me
i think i will wait until Samsung fix these problems, which knowing them will be about 12 months
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I've never experienced any of the problems you've listed, wifi has always worked without fail and the display is amazing! Why are so many people having problems??
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Most unlucky.
I just got mine last Friday and I'm still getting used to it. Its sooo awesome, I don't really understand why anyone would want to return it.
Oh well.
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WayneHarris said:
Just sent my Samsung Galaxy S3 back to T Mobile here in the UK
kept dropping signal on wi fi
totally rubbish sound on video recordings
didnt like the black background on main email section, you cant change it!
loved the screen size but colours look unnatural even when on lowest setting
no way in hell i was staying in a 24 month contract with a phone that isnt what i expected, very disappointing, the video audio was the main decider for me
i think i will wait until Samsung fix these problems, which knowing them will be about 12 months
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...so?
Why do we need to know this? If you don't like the phone, fair enough, but I honestly could not care less and I doubt anyone else here does.
I hate these pointless threads.
bye.
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got to say;
I like the default black email client. Battery saving!
WiFi has been great
I dont record videos so couldn't comment there.
Screen looks very realistic. You can set the mode, natural, Dynamic, Movie etc as you can with a Samsung LCD TV. Very configurable for all tastes. Sharp too.
Could the Wifi dropping be your router? Ive been impressed with Wifi thus far.
Impressed with the video recording too. If I wanted better I'd buy a HD Video camera.
Sound at the moment is below par but as has already been mentioned, it can be improved by the mighty powers of supercurio.
Shame you bailed so soon, but good luck in finding a new phone.
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I got Wi-fi problems with my first unit too.
With my second SIII i've pink tint so i'll change for another one and if ate third time i don't get a perfect device i'll keep my money for other phone.
I love the god damn phone, but so much problems for a flagship.
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...so?
Why do we need to know this? If you don't like the phone, fair enough, but I honestly could not care less and I doubt anyone else here does.
I hate these pointless threads.
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Starchini said:
Could the Wifi dropping be your router? Ive been impressed with Wifi thus far.
Impressed with the video recording too. If I wanted better I'd buy a HD Video camera.
Sound at the moment is below par but as has already been mentioned, it can be improved by the mighty powers of supercurio.
Shame you bailed so soon, but good luck in finding a new phone.
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+THIS! The camera is a camera of a SMART PHONE not an HDR 4k camera...
Good luck finding a better phone
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+THIS! The camera is a camera of a SMART PHONE not an HDR 4k camera...
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I understand why people are not happy with the video recorder sound. There is no point in pretending its not a problem by comparing it to a 4k HDR camera. If they can do 1080p 30fps you'd think the sound would be at least on par with the visuals.
Fact is the SGS2 had much better sound and so too does the iPhone. Samsung have achieved better in the past and its disappointing to take a step back in the area.
Again with the whinges about the sound. Its a software problem. It will be fixed eventually.
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People make posts like this for attention. He wants to be different from the rest of us who love this phone
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He has only 2 post.
He thinks he won by getting other peoples attention, but the amount of time he had to spend to make another account and research little problems hardly anyone has just makes him not only lose but a loser at trolling.
What's the problem with the sound??? I did a video at a bbq at the weekend and the sound is excellent.
On second thought, don't tell me, as it will have me looking for little green men in my usb port next...
oh wait, there are some, they are reaaaaallly really small but they ARE THERE!! lol.
Running Franco's kernel with sound improvements I have no audio issues at all.
Rest of the phone has no issues imo.
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Low ram in France pack, 780mo! Try to install more than two hundred apps... Ducking crazy, another pack contains. 2G I feel a little furious
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Low ram in France pack, 780mo! Try to install more than two hundred apps... Ducking crazy, another pack contains. 2G I feel a little furious
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I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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The new nexus 2 still be having sd card slot.
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There is no SD card slot in the sgs3??
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w1nter456 said:
1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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The phone should be 32gb at least. If not I won't buy it until it had 32gb.
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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Next year nexus, android 5.0. Sweet
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w1nter456 said:
1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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This was just a prototype . Official woukd have minimum 16 gb
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
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I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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Only thing I like with the nexus, would be the faster updates (yes I do use custom roms).
Another thing I can't really stand seeing users who say that stock android is better bla bla. Have you ever compared stock androids camera (aosp) vs samsungs one? You might dislike the template/colour scheme of touchwiz, but from a functionality point of view, samsungs software is way ahead of stock android. (even aokp, cm etc etc) eg, camera, task manager on home long press, clock app, better messaging app, contacts app etc, direct call, smart alert, smart stay (better than not having the option)
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I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
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Butter shouldn't be the goal of the phone. Functionality clearly trumps it. For example, playing a complex game or watching a high resolution movie is where you'll see high-end hardware really shine. As for IPS, I foresee Samsung shedding that very soon in future models.
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I can't really stand would be users who say that stock android is better bla bla.
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I agree that some of Samsung's modifications are really useful. I used an S3 then tried a Nexus for the first time and I couldn't stand the simplified options menu of the device.
Not interested in Nexus devices. Apart from faster software updates, I still can't see any better features Nexus can offer to consumers compare to OEM devices.
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Yes my next phone would be a Nexus... I like the default android launcher and fast update on Android OS. Less stress cause by waiting and TouchWiz bugs.
I would sacrifice having no SD card slot if that's the case. I just want the next nexus to have a quad core and 2GB of RAM and a 32GB of storage would be fine with me.
if the price is right, i'll get the LG nexus phone to replace my S3
i'm always on AOSP rom. no point S3 when there's always something not working on stock android.
No sdcard slot = no go!
If it had a sdcard slot, I'd definitely go for it. It seems to solve all the problems of SGS3.
When the new Lumia 920 is there, i'll go for it.\
Im getting tired of android, the flashing, the custom ROMS.
None of it is without lagg, so i'm gonna try Windows Phone 8
No. The Nexus series of phones will never have a microSD slot 'cause Google do not think they're needed (along with file managers - with the Android trait of leaving leftover **** on the SD when uninstalling applications, yeah right). Despite already nearly filling up both my 16GB internal + 32GB microSD card, I'd - grudgingly - live with the loss of a microSD card slot but rumours say that the memory of the new LG Nexus is either 8GB/16GB in order to push Google's **** cloud services. Not only do I feel it's more futuristic that I can carry huge amounts of files on a tiny microSD card without having to be tied to the Internet, Google Music doesn't officially work this side of the pond and even if it did I don't have the data allowance to always be streaming - and, in my case, I don't get mobile phone signal for a couple hours a day...
LG have been told to make the next Nexus. Luckily, I never bought the useless doorstop known as the Optimus 2X, but ask around and owners will generally tell you it sucks thanks to its feature of randomly rebooting throughout your day, on the stock firmware doing nothing. LG Canada also said no to ICS for the phone - we're talking about the first Android dual-core phone and LG's flagship. Thankfully, Google will be operating the update side of things so this won't be an issue with the Nexus, but I'll be damned if I ever buy an LG phone (4x has a locked bootloader, for example. Again not a problem on the Nexus, but another reason why I'll never consider LG).
I want to (well, try to) punch a wall when I say this, but odds are I'll be getting a Sony phone when they release a phone with specs worthy of the month of the year they're announcing it in. (In short, I want a quad-core, Sony, not excitement over the fact that the T is - finally - your first dual-core) I'll never forgive them for the Vita but with phones, they seem to have it right so no point in cutting my nose off in order to spite my face. Everybody knows of Code Aurora, but Sony do release binaries for those things they don't/can't open the source of to make it easier for those who want to run AOSP-based ROMs, unlocking the bootloader can be done through a website of theirs (and there's no bollocks like S-ON to deal with), Entropy512 says they release the code of some of their own things that they don't need to - nothing groundbreaking but very helpful to AOSP ROM maintainers etc. and they've posted on XDA in order to promote their open-source software to help developers (there's a post from a Sony Ericsson employee somewhere on XDA talking about their program that wraps apktool and others to for a better decompiling experience... god I sound like a shill).
I've also seen them contribute fixes to upstream software. Take D-Bus. On a GNU/Linux desktop it's an open-source program used mainly by the KDE & GNOME desktops (and by a ton of freedesktop.org programs like the upower daemon) as a way for programs to communicate with each other. (Sorry for the awful attempt at an explanation) On Android it's there too, probably because BlueZ, which provides the Bluetooth stack, needs it. Applications can't use it on Android but if dbus-daemon is happy then BlueZ is too. On the DBus mailing list, I would see posts by Sony Ericsson employees working on Android trying to find out why X operation was slow and, in some cases, providing fixes themselves. This is a great approach as it means not only DBus-using Linux desktops get a more stable piece of software because Sony chose to submit directly to the people who wrote the the program, it also means that other Android phones that run the version of dbus-daemon with Sony's fixes also benefit. JBQ of Google also put the Arc S device tree into AOSP - the first non-Nexus phone - because (if I'm remembering right) Sony were always friendly to AOSP and were contributing.
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As a previous owner of the original sgs1 and currently have the nexus s I recently had to decide on my new smartphone. I discounted the nexus pretty quickly because, frankly I found the nexus s boring. The nexus line will always be good but never great. Lack of storage and no sd card is a killer. The only - admittedly considerable - thing going for the nexus range is early access to latest firmware. That's it. The galaxy s range are sexy and leading edge. That's where each new model is aimed and that's what Samsung achieve
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So it's time for a new phone for me from the Evo 3D. I keep phones for 2 years and I choose phones based upon specs and what I like (didn't get the 3D for the 3D).
I am asking for the best attempt for non bias opinions for which would be the best phone to own for 2 more years.
I would have gotten the Galaxy S4 if it came with the 8 core but since it comes with a quad core at 1.8Ghz over the HTC One's 1.7 that is no longer and issue. With Kernels and OC I'm sure they will both be very stable at 2Ghz which is plenty fast for a phone.
My biggest concerns are the Camera, the sound, screen quality, size and customization.
Camera:
So far I am loving the HTC One's low light camera. If I want a high MP camera then I will use a camera but most of the time I want to take a picture with my phone and it turns out bad it is in low light. So I like to give the +1 to HTC One on camera plus the Zoe feature seems very nice and useful. I will have to wait to see how the two compare and I hope the Galaxy S4 has some samples after it gets announced.
Sound:
I like the amplified speakers on the HTC One, though It doesn't mean the Galaxy S4 isn't going to sound nice. I havn't heard anything about the speakers on the Galaxy S4 so I need to know more about this one to make a decision on which gets the +1.
Screen Quality:
This is a tough one for me, both are probably spectacular and screen size isn't what chooses the +1 on this one for me. I like the quality of the picture more. If anyone sees some good info on this plz post when it comes available.
Size:
I could never own a phone as big as the Note 2. It just isn't pocket friendly and I don't want anything that big. It's great for those who want to mix a tablet with a phone and size isn't an issue, but for me it has to be pocket friendly and not pocket filling. I havn't seen dimensions of the Galaxy S4 on this so I can't decide until that information comes available so please post when available. But from reviews the HTC One looks like it's a good size in the hands.
Customization:
This one is big since It's very fun to do and worth doing. The battery is an issue for me atm because I wouldn't know what to do when it freezes unless there's a reset button that acts like a battery pull (then it's important to how I get to it. If it requires a pin then I have to think how often will I be able to take a pin out and reset it) . For me I don't have to replace batteries in my phone and technology in batteries is increasing and they should last 2 years unless your eating you battery up 2-3 times a day. Mine has always lasted me the day because when it's low I just limit myself.
The SD card isn't really a problem for me because I only own a 32GB version SD card and I will just use it as a USB if I were to get the HTC One or pop it in the Galaxy S4 if I were to get that one. 32GB is plenty for me as I have an IPod for music and don't need a ton of movies on my phone. One of the things the S4 is big about is the scrolling feature, but I'm not sure that is important to me. I also don't care for the new sense and it's focus being live feeds.
If anyone has any input on the categories please let me know. I usually get phones for my parents when I get one for myself too. So far I am leaning towards the HTC One which is why I came here. I just need to know more before I can decide.
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How can you decide between something that has not been released yet???
Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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Obviously the best thing to do is wait until the S4 announcement. Read reviews for both phones but don't take them as gospel. Read around for other impressions, watch some videos and if possible see if there are any demo units near you that you can try out.
Otherwise look at both specs and see whats more important for you?
Higher MP camera, removable large battery, MicroSD slot, RGB notification led, 5 inch OLED display? - Go for S4
Better build quality and looks, better low light camera, HTC Sense and Zoe, superior audio output, 4.7 SuperLCD 3 with higher PPI - Go for HTC One.
I have ordered the HTC One, but if the S4 announcement is good and meets what I want then I will definitely be looking to get that.
Yeah you have to wait 2 more days and the s4 will be announced, then you will know the official spec of the s4 which i doubt would be much better than HTC one
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Against rules to compare, thread will be closed as soon as a moderator sees it
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When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
toxicfumes22 said:
When did it become against rules to compare phones based upon one persons needs and that person asks the community for assistance. I know XDA has changed from what made XDA the place to be, but seriously can't see it being that bad.
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Sorry, but this fires up the brand bashers and instead of any real help, you'll get only fanboy trolling. This is why it is against the rules
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Please read the rules. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158159
As a comparison thread isn't device-specific by definition, it cant stay on a device forum.
You could make such a thread in Android General if you so wish.
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