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I lost my Hero, running WaveSecure!

For all of you who are running wavesecure, don't make the same mistake I did!
Here's wat happened:
I lost my phone after a short walk around the block. I tried to call it to hear if I maybe left it in the pub where I was at the moment.
I called it three times, but the fourth time some ***hole turned my phone off so I succesfully tracked the location a few times and eventually locked it with a message to bring it back to the pub I was in.
This was a big mistake! he never turned it on again. He ended up with a fourhundred euro brick well **** 'm then
I couldn't live without a Hero, so the next day I bought a new one
But my advise to all of you is:
1: Run WaveSecure Preferably cooked into MoDaCo's Custom Rom
2: If your phone gets stolen or if you lose it DON'T LOCK IT, just track the location and the SIM. Until you have enough information to go to the police or something, or go pick it up yourself ofcourse

sorry to hear that buddy...
if someone stole it.. and you lock the phone..
I guess 99% of the time... the phone will go into a trash can
or
they will throw it at the wall to take out their frustration on it, and see how many pieces will hit the ground!!

well its better for it to be trashed than for the thief to sell it and make money.

DaanJordaan said:
For all of you who are running wavesecure...
1: Run WaveSecure Preferably cooked into MoDaCo's Custom Rom
2: If your phone gets stolen or if you lose it DON'T LOCK IT, just track the location and the SIM. Until you have enough information to go to the police or something, or go pick it up yourself ofcourse
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@1. Absolutely, there is virtually no point in using WS if it isn't in a ROM. You can actually do it to any ROM, since all the update.zip file does is copies the apk file into /system/app instead of /data/app. That way it cannot be uninstalled through the normal 'market' method.
@2. That's a valid point! I suggest people who need to should set a 15minute tracker on it (can be done from the website). I wouldn't suggest manually locking it out, but I might contact the dev and suggest a 'stealth' mode that would allow you to track the phone, and basically turn it into one huge piece of 'spyware' when enabled. Legal issues could be a problem there though, as in nanny state UK, the thief of your phone would have the same rights to privacy of his/her illegal use of you contract as you would have normally.
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A friend of mine had their PAYG phone stolen. So I called up for them (because 'I'm good with these sorts of things', apparently, and got the SIM cancelled. I checked the balance on the phone, and they told me there was about £1 off it since the theft. I had answered all the usual security questions like 'How much did you last top up by?' and 'How do you normally top up?' and 'What postcode do you tend to keep your phone in most of the time (ie. overnight)?' etc.
So, I asked them if they could give any details of the usage, and after a bit of polite chat and banter, they said there were quite a lot of SMS messages sent to various numbers, but they couldn't give any more details. I considered escalating this issue, as the account holder was my friend (who was sat beside me at the time listening on speaker phone, and who was happy for me to 'act on his behalf', yet they wouldn't tell us any of the details. They also claimed to not be able to track the Cell-ID of the phone, which I know is nonsense, as their own security question was to do with where the phone is normally kept overnight. If they had given a postcode, that could have been given to the police officer who had been 'assigned' the case.
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But the network wouldn't give the info to the 'account holder', so I would strongly recommend that everyone installs WS, at least before 31 Jan, so they get it free on their IMEI for life. That way, you can locate the phone every 15 mins, and also use 'backup' to see their call history/SMS history. Could help get it back, or at least 'intimidate' them if you live in a country where you actually have a right to your own property...
But let's not let this go off-topic, so sorry for the rant, but yes, I think WS is important to be installed to ROM (ie. Modaco)

I looke at this app, but there is a strange behaviour with sms sent with charges because of an international location, am i wrong ?
Ciao
Fred

I've not found any international SMS charges.
AFAIK, they use data for all communications back to the servers. The only times I've seen SMS are that if you forget your PIN, the app will send it via SMS to a buddy (who is usually in your country).
Also during activation, it sends an SMS to you, (but in the UK SMS is free to receive, and calls are free to receive). Also, locking the phone via internet or by SMS will result in an SMS sent from them or another phone, but again it is only receiving the SMS...
Do you pay to receive SMS where you are? Otherwise it seems to use data as its main communication medium.

My latest phonebill was exactly the same as the one before and on WS's site it says that it's completely free of charge for android I recall.
This guy still hasen't turned it on, lost hope a little bit, but I still check every day to be sure.

anon2122 said:
I've not found any international SMS charges.
AFAIK, they use data for all communications back to the servers. The only times I've seen SMS are that if you forget your PIN, the app will send it via SMS to a buddy (who is usually in your country).
Also during activation, it sends an SMS to you, (but in the UK SMS is free to receive, and calls are free to receive). Also, locking the phone via internet or by SMS will result in an SMS sent from them or another phone, but again it is only receiving the SMS...
Do you pay to receive SMS where you are? Otherwise it seems to use data as its main communication medium.
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No i don't pay, but i'm interested in this app - of course !!! - and i read comments on the androlib site about those international sms and charges ...
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Fred

This app is awesome. For me it nearly beats locale. I lost my phone on a drunken night and did a locator search for it. It pinpointed to the exact location where my phone was. I left my phone with a mate and forgot to get it back. But the sheer usefulness of the locator is a win for me. Yes i would even pay for this app as well!

If you don't have GPS turned on at the time, can you get it to turn on so it can be tracked?

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If you don't have GPS turned on at the time, can you get it to turn on so it can be tracked?
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Sadly no, but it uses google's location service which works with wifi, network, or GPS, so if gps is turned on and you track the phone you get an exact location.

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Sadly no, but it uses google's location service which works with wifi, network, or GPS, so if gps is turned on and you track the phone you get an exact location.
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Good stuff.
Thanks

Hmmm. You should maybe send a wipe command to the phone too. If it is ever turned on, all your personal data will be gone from it.
Have you checked the last SIM number in it was yours (I think it's under Track on the WS site)?

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Hmmm. You should maybe send a wipe command to the phone too. If it is ever turned on, all your personal data will be gone from it.
Have you checked the last SIM number in it was yours (I think it's under Track on the WS site)?
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Already did, he never turned it on again. Eventually, just to be safe I blocked my SIM via my provider. So now it can't receive SMS's anymore, so I can't give any commands anymore. But if he puts in another SIM I can track it again plus I know his phonenumber so I can terrorise him, or the second better option is to go to the police with his number

Yeah. If they try to use it, WS servers will find out the number. Have you looked at IMEI barring it (presume you're on GSM) via. your network. But it might be more 'fun' not to. Maybe in a while they'll think the heat is off and turn the phone back on with a SIM...
That's when the 'fun' begins Do the police in Netherlands do anything about this sort of thing? Here in the UK they'll do naff all unless you can tell them who's got it or where it is. That's where WS comes in...
Either that, or you could sign them up to loads of premium-rate reverse-billed SMS subscriptions on their no. (presuming that is legal over there cough cough!) That could be quite amusing to sign them up to all these €3 per SMS ringtone and game services. xD
Disclaimer: This idea was your own. Nobody suggested it to you

double post. Sorry

So what if the thief uninstall WS?

maroth said:
So what if the thief uninstall WS?
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Hi
As I understand it
Modaco 2.0 has ws in cooked into the sys
So it can not be deleted
Even if you do a hardrest, it will still survive

Oh okey thats smart ^^

The best security on the phone?

What are some apps for the best security on the phone? Paid ones can be suggested too

Wavesecure beta
You can remotely lock and track your phone if it is stolen, you can also remotely wipe it, and it will automatically lock the phone if a SIM is swapped.
Its free if you download it before the end of the month.

i remember reading about a app where if you have your phone on silent and lose it it can turn the ringer on, can wavesecure do that also?

Not sure about that, but i know "lookout" can do this, lookout is an anti-virus, it also has the ability to make your phone "scream" by going through their website, it also has a backup feature.

"wheres my droid" is also one that will help you find a lost phone by increasing volume.
Edit - couldnt come in this thread without adding a +1 to WaveSecure..havent had to use it personally but a friend of mine did and worked great!

sms commander will make a lost phone ring too

liam.lah said:
Wavesecure beta
You can remotely lock and track your phone if it is stolen, you can also remotely wipe it, and it will automatically lock the phone if a SIM is swapped.
Its free if you download it before the end of the month.
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This is what I'm on, seems to work well and features a remote backup service as well.

Lots of bugs/glitches with Nexus S

So I've been using the Nexus S for about one month now, my very first smartphone. Discaimer: I'm a NOOB to the core. I never rooted my phone, never thought of it.
I'm pulling my hair out at the following long list (and counting) of bugs and glitches I've noticed with my phone:
1) Menu settings randomly change (including ringtones)
2) screen doesn't turn off automatically, even though I have set screen auto off to 30 seconds. (this one is somewhat "dangerous" as I leave my phone in the bag and don't check it for a while, and later notice that my screen has been left on the whole time, draining my battery)
3) cannot make outgoing calls. I don't get outgoing ringing when I try to make outgoing calls. Also, during this time, the phone did not ring when there was an incoming call
4) pictures in the gallery come and go
5) The list of apps I downloaded disappear from "my apps" list in Android market
6) when I select a call from the call log, the phone dials a different contact
7) after using airplane mode, turning off airplane mode does not restore signal and 3G data
What's very frustrating is that all of these bugs seem to come and go randomly, without any "patterns" or "triggers." I've restarted the phone, and the issue I was having seems to go away, only to lead to another one a while later. I am wondering if any of these issues are known problems. Also, are these problems more likely to be software or hardware issues?
I'm running
Android 2.3.4
Baseband version I9020AUCKD1
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-ge382d80
Build number GRJ22
on Fido network in Canada.
Thanks

I'm having difficulty taking you seriously because of your username.

SComp23 said:
I'm having difficulty taking you seriously because of your username.
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+9000
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SComp23 said:
I'm having difficulty taking you seriously because of your username.
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Lol
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No. 3 alone will qualify for a refund or exchange.
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Hahahahhahw
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SComp23 said:
I'm having difficulty taking you seriously because of your username.
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Hahahaha true that.
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You know, half the time i wouldn't even take note of the OP username and just go ahead and try to help, but you caught on to something here. Oddball username, 1 post and very unusual (really far out) problems/issues...
hmmm

1) Menu settings randomly change (including ringtones) - Probably user error. Or you're using apps that keep conflicting with your setup.
2) screen doesn't turn off automatically, even though I have set screen auto off to 30 seconds. (this one is somewhat "dangerous" as I leave my phone in the bag and don't check it for a while, and later notice that my screen has been left on the whole time, draining my battery) - Manually turn screen off after a given set of time, chances are, your bag is pressing up against the phone when you place it in and the phone keeps pressing buttons (My guess).
3) cannot make outgoing calls. I don't get outgoing ringing when I try to make outgoing calls. Also, during this time, the phone did not ring when there was an incoming call - I had this problem before, are you using Google Voice with integration?
4) pictures in the gallery come and go - Depends on the size of the images, the phone can only read so much data from SD card at a time. I assume you're not giving it enough time to load everything or you have a .nomedia file somewhere that's hiding your pictures from being shown.
5) The list of apps I downloaded disappear from "my apps" list in Android market - It's a known bug with some Market builds. Downloading another app or giving it a minute will usually fix the problem.
6) when I select a call from the call log, the phone dials a different contact - This is weird. Do you have a custom dialer app from the market that may have this bug? I played with my phone out of box a few days and nothing like this happened.
7) after using airplane mode, turning off airplane mode does not restore signal and 3G data - If you're in a weak signal area, it can take longer to gain 3G back. If it doesn't come back within 2 minutes, I suggest a reboot. I also suggest doing a profile update, PRL update, and firmware update (as Google has sent an OTA with bugfixes) to see if these problems can be fixed.

The only bug I experienced since I've got my Nexus S is that the Screen won't respond for a little while after unlocking my phone.
I didn't had the time yet to analyze the problem more detailed, maybe this also happens due to a specific widget? I don't know. I got a lot of them all over my four different home screens.

No response from OP yet people continue to respond. I think the fecal fan has left the building.
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Judging by the quality of the posts in this thread, I find it rather ironic that I'm being accused of being a troll. First time posting and where is the love?
I will respond to pretty much the only useful reply I got in this thread so far.
Overstew said:
1) Menu settings randomly change (including ringtones) - Probably user error. Or you're using apps that keep conflicting with your setup.
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Please define what you mean by "user error." I don't know of any apps that can change the global notification ringtone.
Overstew said:
2) screen doesn't turn off automatically, even though I have set screen auto off to 30 seconds. (this one is somewhat "dangerous" as I leave my phone in the bag and don't check it for a while, and later notice that my screen has been left on the whole time, draining my battery) - Manually turn screen off after a given set of time, chances are, your bag is pressing up against the phone when you place it in and the phone keeps pressing buttons (My guess).
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Nope. The same thing happened when my phone was sitting face up on my desk.
Overstew said:
3) cannot make outgoing calls. I don't get outgoing ringing when I try to make outgoing calls. Also, during this time, the phone did not ring when there was an incoming call - I had this problem before, are you using Google Voice with integration?
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No I'm not using GV.
Overstew said:
4) pictures in the gallery come and go - Depends on the size of the images, the phone can only read so much data from SD card at a time. I assume you're not giving it enough time to load everything or you have a .nomedia file somewhere that's hiding your pictures from being shown.
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Nexus S does not have an SD card slot AFAIK. I gave it plenty of time to load everything. I wouldn't expect my phone to require 5 minutes to load pictures. I own a smartphone, not a 486. On reboot, some pictures show up that weren't in the gallery before. After subsequent reboot, some other random pictures disappear.
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6) when I select a call from the call log, the phone dials a different contact - This is weird. Do you have a custom dialer app from the market that may have this bug? I played with my phone out of box a few days and nothing like this happened.
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No.
Overstew said:
7) after using airplane mode, turning off airplane mode does not restore signal and 3G data - If you're in a weak signal area, it can take longer to gain 3G back. If it doesn't come back within 2 minutes, I suggest a reboot. I also suggest doing a profile update, PRL update, and firmware update (as Google has sent an OTA with bugfixes) to see if these problems can be fixed.
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I understand 3G can take longer, but it seems fishy that my cell signal doesn't come back. I waited more than 2 minutes and I ended up HAVING to reboot (twice in fact) to get both 3G and cell reception back.
Oh yeah, just yesterday, I experienced my first encounter with the mythical "search button of death" bug. Yay.

perform a hard reset and it should be fine

could just be u got a bad phone. i've never had or heard of any of those issues on the forums. your factory warranty is good for a year.

Dude what the f**k is up with your username??? god damn what the hell is wrong with people...
the only error that has been reported is the images missing. the rest are probably your fault or you're doing something wrong. if you love **** so much go buy the iPhone

derekwilkinson said:
Dude what the f**k is up with your username??? god damn what the hell is wrong with people...
the only error that has been reported is the images missing. the rest are probably your fault or you're doing something wrong. if you love **** so much go buy the iPhone
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Watch out all gamer is going to give you an infraction for that one
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derekwilkinson said:
Dude what the f**k is up with your username??? god damn what the hell is wrong with people...
the only error that has been reported is the images missing. the rest are probably your fault or you're doing something wrong. if you love **** so much go buy the iPhone
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Dude might just have a scat fetish. It is not up to us to judge one's idiosyncrasies. Heaven loves us all the way we are.
** goes into a corner and snickers uncontrollably in stitches **

ilovefeces said:
1) Menu settings randomly change (including ringtones)
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Yes this happens. BUT.... only when you mount the phone via USB and do not disconnect it properly. The phone doesnt have time to scan for your set ringtones, and therefore defaults it to some random mp3 or whatever.
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4) pictures in the gallery come and go
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Due to what i said above as well. This is a HUGE bug.
Every other problem you have is either user-error or an issue from your telco.

Have you done a factory reset of the phone? You may even have a virus. Just read somewhere that Android is the most targeted platform for them as of now.

Help! Lost my phone - Stolen

EDIT: Phone was definitely stolen.
What (if anything) can I do to try to track it? Didn't have any apps installed for something like this
also, is there a way to access my SMS's that are coming in? Contacts are all stored in Gmail, so that's not an issue at least.

From your PC download "Plan B" by going to your account. As soon as the phone gets a signal it will install. You can track it remotely with another phone.
Sent From Rob's ATRIX.

I did do that...hopefully it will get on there but haven't received any email yet with a location. I am very interested how i can quickly send and view my SMS's
VERY IMPORTANT for work reasons.

There is also Cerberus which works excellently, but I don't know if it can be installed and activated remotely.
Sent From Rob's ATRIX.

You can set up AT&T "family track" on your phone and it will go into effect immediately so you can get an exact location of your phone (if it is on). Even if you don't have AT&T I'm sure that rogers and other phone companies offer something similar if not the same thing.

MOTOBLUR's "track my phone" might work? And if you can't get it back at least you can initiate a remote wipe as you seemed to hint that there is a security issue or something there.
https://portal-moto.svcmot.com/moto-web-portal/

what about getting to see the SMS's on the phone? gonna call ATT now.
So annoying

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VERY IMPORTANT for work reasons.
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it's not the iPhone 5, is it...?

Honestly?..........Sorry to tell you but it's long gone if someone took it. Best bet you have is someone found it and is honest, but that doesn't happen often. Ignore the posts about installing apps..............you don't have your phone, not gonna happen!
Did you have it locked? If not you can't have been too worried about the security.
Call your carrier, have the phone logged as stolen, they will track it if it is turned on and active. They don't deactivate phones right away for this exact reason. If someone uses it they will try to track it through the numbers called on it.

If it has a stock ROM and you had a screen lock, your messages should be safe.
Your settings are tied to your Motoblur account.
Log into the Motoblur website and issue a remote wipe.

it was Neutrino Rom, pretty new install so not much private info on there...no screen lock or anything setup

I'm pretty sure you can install Lookout Security remotely to try and track it.
About checking the text messages, I think you're outta luck there. I've never heard of remotely checking texts, but hopefully I'm wrong for your sake.

So, I wasn't able to get any response from Plan B, but i installed ATT's Family map program and it is seeing the phone, which means at least I know it is still on.
What should i do?

I was about to give up and have it deactivated and turn on an old handset, but now that i have a general location on it i'm not sure what my next move should be

Dillsnik said:
I was about to give up and have it deactivated and turn on an old handset, but now that i have a general location on it i'm not sure what my next move should be
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go get it?

If sound was on, start calling it in the vicinity with another phone.

CaelanT said:
If sound was on, start calling it in the vicinity with another phone.
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sound was not on.....
The location looks like it's all commercial, i don't see houses or anything. So i am guessing the thief brought it to work with them?
also, it says it's only accurate to about 30 yards give or take. So if it was in a development or apartment building, kinda hard to key in on where exactly it is.
If, however the person with it lives in a bit more remote area, i MAY have a chance to narrow it down...but still hard to be certain and all

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If sound was on, start calling it in the vicinity with another phone.
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Then destroy target.

isn't there an app that can remotely turn sound up on the phone?

call the cops. you have the serial number and all that right? file a stolen property report and then tell them you've narrowed down the location of your phone using an app.

Lost my phone and Android Lost isn't working

Hey guys, I lost my phone 30 minutes ago and unfourtnately since I have never lost a phone in my life I didin't think I would loose one now. I don't have any "find my phone" installed on the phone so I went to the website http://www.androidlost.com and I pushed the app to my stolen phone and I also pushed the Jumpstart app. I also tried to send a message "androidlost register" to the phone, but nothing sems to work.
Android Lost doesn't register the phone. The first thing I did when I came home was to change my Google account password. If I'm correct, isn't that a misstake? Because now when the thief turns on the internet, the password is changed so he can't login to the account? Is this correct?
Does the phone have to have WiFi or mobile data enabled?

Since you changed the password I don't think pushing apps from the playstore will work anymore. Even if you change it back, the login link is broken and you'd need the device to log back in.

retskrad said:
Hey guys, I lost my phone 30 minutes ago and unfourtnately since I have never lost a phone in my life I didin't think I would loose one now. I don't have any "find my phone" installed on the phone so I went to the website http://www.androidlost.com and I pushed the app to my stolen phone and I also pushed the Jumpstart app. I also tried to send a message "androidlost register" to the phone, but nothing sems to work.
Android Lost doesn't register the phone. The first thing I did when I came home was to change my Google account password. If I'm correct, isn't that a misstake? Because now when the thief turns on the internet, the password is changed so he can't login to the account? Is this correct?
Does the phone have to have WiFi or mobile data enabled?
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Lost or stolen? Lost, there's still hope. Someone might turn it in somewhere, there are still good people left in this world.
Stolen, probably goodbye. First thing he'd do would be to remove sim or turn off.
As far as i know androidlost will work if everything is turned on; if there's a data connection, if gps is activated, etc. I'll surely get corrected if not.
Changing the Google password will prompt to log in again, yes.
Sucks though mate.. :-\

The funny thing is, when I call it, it calls for the full duration, and also they haven't taken out the SIM card. I tried it with my moms Galaxy Nexus the exact way I did on my Nexus 4, but the only difference was she had internet connection on and it worked... What I fear the most is I changed my Google account password, Maybe it's not possible to retrieve the phone via androidlost because of this?

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The funny thing is, when I call it, it calls for the full duration, and also they haven't taken out the SIM card. I tried it with my moms Galaxy Nexus the exact way I did on my Nexus 4, but the only difference was she had internet connection on and it worked... What I fear the most is I changed my Google account password, Maybe it's not possible to retrieve the phone via androidlost because of this?
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Im afraid el daddy's post is confirming exactly that..

Well if the phone is stolen the first thing they might do is take it to the nearest cell phone shop to get it wiped .. Or maybe you left it somewhere ... Retrace your steps...
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Is there a way to like enable latitude on the web or something to remotely see the location of the device? or something like that? Because I'm pretty much screwed because I changed the password on my Google account, very very stupid of me, but I panicked

I know it's to late know, but next time you should try Cerberus app; best in line for tracking and remote controlling devices

Because of the WiFi bug it's affecting anti theft apps. The theft will need to switch the screen on before Google play will download the app you've pushed. But once that's done it is still hit and miss whether the web interface will be able to connect to the phone to track its location unless the screen is kept on. I know Cerberus and lookout can't.
More info about this WiFi issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072930

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sb29rb3V0LmxhYnMucGxhbmIiXQ..

i think call your phone and speak with the one who find it to return it back ..if it not works make a price for your stolen phone and buy it from the thief

Use this.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alienmanfc6.wheresmyandroidcupcake
Install it and text "wmd gps" to your phone.
If you don't have another phone, use this: http://textinghome.com/smsemail.php
It'll send the reply to your email. (put "wmd gps" in the subject box, and three random letters in the message box)
(I tested this one on my phone)
EDIT: ****. I just read that you changed your password. Big mistake. Try changing it back to what it was before, even though I doubt that would work.

As a last resort (when you accept it's gone for ever), report the IMEI number to your GSM provider and hope they blacklist it.