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Anyone else experiencing really laggy HD playback?

I'm using stock 4.0.3 and Glados 2.4 and whenever I try to play a MKV video on MX player (or any other player cause I tried them all basically) ITS REALLY LAGGY!
Back on gingerbread I used to watch videos like this one and they were butter smooth..
What can I do to solve this crime?
(Needless to say I used the HW decoder when I played those videos)
THANKS!

try BS player or Dice player
I use dice no problem and BS player works great also
both were recently updated to work with 4.0.3 sounds like MX needs to be updated
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demo23019 said:
try BS player or Dice player
I use dice no problem and BS player works great also
both were recently updated to work with 4.0.3 sounds like MX needs to be updated
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I tried BSplayer now and its still laggy..
What rom do you use? Or what kernel?

You can try the recently updated build of RockPlayer. Force hardware decoding.

veagles said:
You can try the recently updated build of RockPlayer. Force hardware decoding.
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Still slow man.. What should I do?

Dice player...
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Guys it's not a player problem nor a rom one..
I flashed 200 different ICS roms already and they're all lagging even when I use BSplayer, MX Player, DicePlayer or RockPlayer..
On gingerbread it's flawless but on ICS it keeps lagging! Any of you really tried playing 720P videos on ICS?

fine for me 4GB 720p mkv (h264)and 3gb 720 avi on stock 4.0.3 play just as smooth as in GB using diceplayer
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demo23019 said:
fine for me 4GB 720p mkv (h264)and 3gb 720 avi on stock 4.0.3 play just as smooth as in GB using diceplayer
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So what do you suggest I should do man? I'm exhausted =\

So the same video file plays fine on GB?

Si_NZ said:
So the same video file plays fine on GB?
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Yeah exactly.. That's what I don't get..

Shameless bump

Im using sw decoder fast. I have no problem in playback with that setting.
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Lirankn said:
So what do you suggest I should do man? I'm exhausted =\
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I'm not sure why your having this problem. Only thing I could think its the video but u said same file played fine GB
can you make a sample clip of you video and share so i can try?
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try this
Sample I made from Despicable Me its MKV h.264 (720p) Ac3 audio
http://www.multiupload.com/0G815X5NGJ
mixtapes08 said:
Im using sw decoder fast. I have no problem in playback with that setting.
Sent from my 1st android phone Nexus S
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software decode lose of quality compared to hardware decode also the H.264 and other hd codecs will not play as smooth as hardware and will run into sync issue with audio
should use dice or other one thats true hardware decode players like BS
rockplayer mobo and most other are not true hardware players they only capable of hardware decode on codecs already supported by default those players add codecs but will only play with software
dice actually adds codecs and plays with hardware support

Hmmm interesting
for me some mkv 720ps videos play fine and some don't but I guess it has something to do with the bitrate

Video player for Desire HD

Been using mobo player but it has issues with flv files for example, the movie gets stuck but the time keeps moving and that part just doesn't play. Happens about 3-4 times for several minutes. Just wondering if you guys use another video player?

I have been using Moboplayer. It is the best video player for Android. I have tried several!

MACkjam said:
I have been using Moboplayer. It is the best video player for Android. I have tried several!
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have you tried playing flv files? they give me problem and since i download videos and my downloader only downloads them in flv...so i was wondering whether it's the player or the rom i'm running.

Hello. DICE player Plays it all...
it is Good...Plays MKV on my DHD just fine , when other cant handle it!
try it

Arcmedia Player plays pretty much anything you throw at it.

will give these a try and report back whether they're playing this flv or not.
Thanks !

Try Rockplayer
http://www.rockplayer.com
it;s very good player which i use on my DHD.

shad0wboss said:
have you tried playing flv files? they give me problem and since i download videos and my downloader only downloads them in flv...so i was wondering whether it's the player or the rom i'm running.
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It plays flv, mkv, 3gp etc, and any other format you throw at it.
Monologue was rated the best recently.

I still have the problem where some parts of the flv movie gets stuck but i believe it is probably the rom i'm using. All those players are functioning just fine and playing flv..

shad0wboss said:
Been using mobo player but it has issues with flv files for example, the movie gets stuck but the time keeps moving and that part just doesn't play. Happens about 3-4 times for several minutes. Just wondering if you guys use another video player?
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You can try MX Player, it's quite slick.

...my rant on this... pls excuse the bullc**p.. >_<
As a user who plays A LOT of movies due to constant use of the public transport for long journeys to and from work... my long-ass post here might be a bit useful for this thread.. ^_^
Initially (late 2010 when I was on Desire Bravo) I was a Rockplayer user, since it was the ONLY player that played most formats decently. Even then, playback of HD videos was buggy at best, impossible most of the time.
Then mid/late 2011 (still on Desire Bravo) Moboplayer came out... and that played more formats with better stability compared to Rockplayer (you need the right codec file downloaded for stability, ARM7VFP was the one I used) even the HD ones. But it was still lacking in regards to playing a lot of HD vids, and MKV playback was still buggy-ish... =/ It was also touting 'hardware decoding' playback... however, I almost always get a prompt saying 'hardware playback not possible etc..' whenever I play most videos anyways.
Nonetheless, I stuck to Moboplayer... since it did play more formats than Rockplayer... and was more stable.
On late November I switched to Desire HD, and whilst I initially stuck to Mobo for my standard player... I was finding that my battery was running out a lot quicker, even with all the 'battery optimizing' tweaks from the forum applied by me to the letter.
Other players like MX was pretty much similar to Mobo... in that it killed the battery just as quick... due to software decoding..
It was then that I found DICEplayer... stating that it did proper hardware decoding straight off the bat. So i gave that one a try... and to my surprise... playback was just as smooth and stable as Mobo... but it didnt kill the battery as bad as my old player!
So currently, my primary player for my DHD is DICEplayer, and imho its probably the best for the phone specifically because of the phone's generally poor battery performance... >_<
Though, i think the dev is having problems with his android market account... so I'm not sure if it can be purchased properly at the mo... =_=

Thanks for the information

I found dice player go be much better
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Try using vplayer... I like it very much...
Sent from my Desire HD

... Used vplayer for a bit earlier on as a substitute when rockplayer couldnt play a file... Only because sometimes vplayer wouldnt play a file, in which case I'd switch back to rockplayer which would plau the file... Suprisingly.
But then, MOBOplayer came out and found that it played everything that both vplayer and rockplayer wouldnt play...
I would've stuck to mobo... But then again... DICEplayer has better hardware decoding support.. And is able to play most HD mkv files more consistently...
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Bsplayer hands down. Finds subtitles automaticly and uses HW acceleration lika baws
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+ 1 Rockplayer. The only player that can play every thing on my phone
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

Dice is Nice (couldn't resist that)
I've been using Moboplayer but switched to Dice mainly because you can set the aspect ratio up in the settings rather than on the fly. Also when using a Bluetooth headset there seems to be no lag in the audio (lip sync) in comparison with Moboplayer which is also very good but has the slightest of audio lags over BT there's barely anything in it between the two though.
Tried Vplayer, that's okay, but IMHO it's
1. Dice
2. Moboplayer

MACkjam said:
I have been using Moboplayer. It is the best video player for Android. I have tried several!
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Agree....moboplayer is the best, in my opinion.
2nd place: Rock Player
matt
---------- Post added at 04:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 PM ----------
Some decent info on here:
http://slodive.com/freebies/best-android-video-players/
Matt

Diceplayer has proven to be an excellent player. Works well with uPNPlay.

Will ICS hardware acceleration let some MKV's play more smoother?

I still get lagging playing some 720p MKV's in HC. Just wondering if the ICS hardware acceleration would improve on this and make it work smoother?
I have tried all players such as MOBO, MX, RockPlayer and Dice. Sometimes when I choose HW accelration it crashes the tablet.

yazyazoo said:
I still get lagging playing some 720p MKV's in HC. Just wondering if the ICS hardware acceleration would improve on this and make it work smoother?
I have tried all players such as MOBO, MX, RockPlayer and Dice. Sometimes when I choose HW accelration it crashes the tablet.
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Remember this is a leaked Beta rom. Thou most things do work there will still be alot of tweaking done by acer before there final push.Also many apps are not totally updated to support ICS.
So we would hope hardware acceleration will improve but to say YES would be guessing.
hope this helps .

I've just tried it, but i have to say it's not smooth at all. Maybe later
(MX player, Lightspeed_4 ROM)

yazyazoo said:
I still get lagging playing some 720p MKV's in HC. Just wondering if the ICS hardware acceleration would improve on this and make it work smoother?
I have tried all players such as MOBO, MX, RockPlayer and Dice. Sometimes when I choose HW accelration it crashes the tablet.
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You should try convert mkv to mp4 and use MX for play.

die_for_rock_vn said:
You should try convert mkv to mp4 and use MX for play.
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I rather not try to convert since all my movies for the home is on a server. I try to stream to the Iconia but it lags. I have tried it on SDcard and it still lags. These are 720p rips of BR usually 4-6gb in size.

HW Acceleration works, even on the leak. The problem is that it doesn't support Vorbis/Theora, which are mostly used in mkv files... So these videos are never going to play really smoothly, they might work or not depending on system load and whatnot.
As to some apps not being properly ported to ICS: True, but for MX video player it is officially supported and has been for a while.

yazyazoo said:
I rather not try to convert since all my movies for the home is on a server. I try to stream to the Iconia but it lags. I have tried it on SDcard and it still lags. These are 720p rips of BR usually 4-6gb in size.
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I had the same issues before. A500 can't play smoothly rips of BR because it is not fast enough to process. Converting video to mp4 or wmv with lower rip-level is the only solution. Sometime the converted larger than original file but... it's work.

I use DVD catalyst 4 to convert my DVDs to MP4 for my Iconia. There are presets for the Iconia. I personally like the HQXT preset. It gives good performance for both action and slow paced movies. My movie file size is normally 1.3 gig.

Its not only mkv that has problem with ICS, its every HD video 720p and above. Even streaming videos like NBA is lagging and ugly to watch. But I know this will fixed soon because v96 video playback is really smooth.

Try streaming again using a program like Emit or Qloud. Both will re-encode the files to a specified bitrate while streaming and you can leave them on your server. I haven't tried it over 3G/4G but it works great over wifi.

yes indeed, but you need a good CPU on your computer for that.
not my case..
and frankly, seeing some low-priced chines tab running 720p without any problem makes me a bit crazy..
tegra2 was a real success.. from sellers points
but at a technical POV, not sure it's soo great

1080p MKV playback

Hey,
Anyone had any success with playback of mkv files yet?
I expected to be able to stream HD content from my NAS however it didn't work with the 4 players i tried.
Then tried copying a sample onto the unit but still couldnt play it smoothly.
Ended up converting to mp4 and that works fine.
Thanks in advance

MPJ88 said:
Hey,
Anyone had any success with playback of mkv files yet?
I expected to be able to stream HD content from my NAS however it didn't work with the 4 players i tried.
Then tried copying a sample onto the unit but still couldnt play it smoothly.
Ended up converting to mp4 and that works fine.
Thanks in advance
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I don't think it can play them naively however I use this, it works great:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImNvbS5wb2RlbmQubW9iaWxlLmJyb3dzZXIiXQ..

thanks I'll try that when home, just noticed there's already a thread discussing this in the general thread so will keep an eye there too!
DICE, MX and BS played them but they just went out of sync and stuttery etc.

MPJ88 said:
thanks I'll try that when home, just noticed there's already a thread discussing this in the general thread so will keep an eye there too!
DICE, MX and BS played them but they just went out of sync and stuttery etc.
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MX has been MY GO TO PLAYER for all things MKV - especially the HD stuff. But, I think it's power comes from optimized cores for decoding. We might have to wait a bit for those optimized cores to come out for the Nexus 10's GPU.

dr9722 said:
I don't think it can play them naively however I use this, it works great:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImNvbS5wb2RlbmQubW9iaWxlLmJyb3dzZXIiXQ..
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That gets awful reviews

htowngator said:
That gets awful reviews
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Works great for me

MX Player is working fine with the HW decoder. Tested 720p, 1080p and 1440p files, all buttery smooth.

Most of my mkv files play fine using vlc player. (if you can't see it in the market use these nightlies: http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/armv7-android-neon/)

MPJ88 said:
Hey,
Anyone had any success with playback of mkv files yet?
I expected to be able to stream HD content from my NAS however it didn't work with the 4 players i tried.
Then tried copying a sample onto the unit but still couldnt play it smoothly.
Ended up converting to mp4 and that works fine.
Thanks in advance
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I can't as well. Streaming 1080p 24 fps video seems to be not possible, even with your tablet 1cm close to your wireless n 5mhz access point. This is from my web search.
Can u guys confirm?
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BSplayer just updated their app and provided an alternate HW decoder for the nexus 10 that works beautifully! Plus, it is just about the only app that will also decode DTS audio in .mkv files.

davin8r said:
BSplayer just updated their app and provided an alternate HW decoder for the nexus 10 that works beautifully! Plus, it is just about the only app that will also decode DTS audio in .mkv files.
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MX player will play DTS audio just fine, but you need to download the proper codecs to do so. A search on these forums should point you in the right direction. Ironically though I did just purchase BS player because I love the option where it finds subtitles easily online with very little effort.

You need to determine if it is an issue with the app not being properly optimized or if it is your device throttling itself down due to thermal restrictions that is causing the stutterer.

davin8r said:
BSplayer just updated their app and provided an alternate HW decoder for the nexus 10 that works beautifully! Plus, it is just about the only app that will also decode DTS audio in .mkv files.
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Although I like the interface of MX player better but with the new update for alternative HW decoder, all my1080p mkv files play flawlessly and that too, while streaming on Wi-Fi with BS player

Best video player without lag

Hello. What is the best combination for playing hd videos wihtout lag? Which app works the best and which rom-kernel?
I have rooted nexus 10 and i have stock kernel-rom. However the hd videos lag a little.(refering to 720p)
I have tried mx player and bsplayer with our cpu addon.

I just use regular bsplayer. Never had an issue and I was just watching HD stuff this weekend. I am on RasSaber ROM, but I never had issue on AOKP PUB, AOKP, or CM10.1 stuff either.
I would bet it is more about how the player is set up, whether using CPU or GPU, and how easily the clock speed for whatever the player is using ramps up.

More or less. Most of these ROMs have the appropriate CPU/GPU drivers already, so your main concern should be making sure that your player is using H/W decoding...and that you've encoded your file properly too.

EniGmA1987 said:
I just use regular bsplayer. Never had an issue and I was just watching HD stuff this weekend. I am on RasSaber ROM, ....
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Where do you download RasSaber? I can only find rasbeanjelly, etc. Is there a thread?

I do not have a link, I am not sure if it is available anymore or not. I am running a build from may 12th, and the latest build I have is from may 28th. You could ask sparksco or Rascarlo if they can give you a link to one of the builds.

Using hardware the video lags more. I tried an mkv file. Can i change any other settings in the programs to make it smoother?
Maybe i will flash another kernel, but i want 1 week to try the stock kernel in order to be able to tell the differences..

c1oud said:
Using hardware the video lags more. I tried an mkv file. Can i change any other settings in the programs to make it smoother?
Maybe i will flash another kernel, but i want 1 week to try the stock kernel in order to be able to tell the differences..
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Then your player is (probably) badly built. There are really no circumstances under which a S/W decoder should be able to beat a H/W one. I personally don't have issues using MPlayer or stock.

Dice and MX Player. Dice can pla some videos on H/W that MX can't.

I used a few kernels and roms and never had issues with mxplayer. The thing is you have to turn on in options h/w+ (so u have 3 ways to play your video h/w, h/w+ and s/w), then turn it once in top right corner while playing movie. I mostly run mkv 720p files.

Yes i am using hw+ in mx player.. I also use bs pleyer with the neon cpu plugin. I will try another movie and dice player and report.. Thanks.
Edit: i tried dice player and works flawlessly with hw! Also i tried again mx and seems to be working better...

c1oud said:
Hello. What is the best combination for playing hd videos wihtout lag? Which app works the best and which rom-kernel?
I have rooted nexus 10 and i have stock kernel-rom. However the hd videos lag a little.(refering to 720p)
I have tried mx player and bsplayer with our cpu addon.
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I use MX Player without hw+ enabled on stock, unrooted Android 4.2.2, haven't noticed lag, and I play 1080p trailers all the time. If you really want to stress it, here's a 1440p trailer you can try out (third link, which they incorrectly label as 2560p). That video drops frames like crazy if I don't use hardware decoding, but plays fine with it. Better than my HOX+, which just plays the audio and drops the video altogether.
I wanted to find a video that would actually use the full resolution of my Nexus 10 and that's the only one I found that comes close. :laugh:

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I use MX Player without hw+ enabled on stock, unrooted Android 4.2.2, haven't noticed lag, and I play 1080p trailers all the time. If you really want to stress it, here's a 1440p trailer you can try out (third link, which they incorrectly label as 2560p). That video drops frames like crazy if I don't use hardware decoding, but plays fine with it. Better than my HOX+, which just plays the audio and drops the video altogether.
I wanted to find a video that would actually use the full resolution of my Nexus 10 and that's the only one I found that comes close. :laugh:
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I tried it and it works great with mx player.. I think mp4 are read better from tablets...

MX Player has always done me proud...
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