http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/11/23/samsung-droid-charge-gingerbread-update-imminent/
Not surprised that this is coming out to the droid charge before our phones.
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So.
I've been running gb since early july. Verizon can keep their **** software.
good day.
And this is in the Fascinate forum - why?
Has anyone seen John Connor?
We have a decently functioning ICS rom thanks to JT before they can even get GB. Haha Verizon.
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Interesting, hopefully that means it won't be long for the fascinate!
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Interesting, hopefully that means it won't be long for the fascinate!
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I hope so too, I just don't understand why they're getting it before us.
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I hope so too, I just don't understand why they're getting it before us.
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because this phone is discontinued...were luck to be getting gb at all!
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because this phone is discontinued...were luck to be getting gb at all!
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The thing is that it's been out for the galaxy s international version for a while now, also our mesmerize twin has had it since August, so I don't see why we're lucky to be getting it.
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Because the carriers dictate when (or whether) we get Android updates on these non-Nexus Android phones. In our case, Samsung releases the updates to Verizon, and Verizon tests it, adds its bloatware, and, if the phone is not EOL, releases the updates OTA to us. If the phone is EOL (as ours is), Verizon may or may not choose to release the update to us. IIRC, Google forged an agreement with the manufacturers and the carriers to release updates for at least two years for phones that came out in 2011 (ours was released in2010), but the carriers have already reneged in a few cases. Since EH03 from Verizon has already leaked out, it's likely that we actually will get the official GB OTA from Verizon, but even if we don't get it, WE ALREADY HAVE EH03 HERE! That said, I wouldn't hold my breath for any further updates.
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Because the carriers dictate when (or whether) we get Android updates on these non-Nexus Android phones. In our case, Samsung releases the updates to Verizon, and Verizon tests it, adds its bloatware, and, if the phone is not EOL, releases the updates OTA to us. If the phone is EOL (as ours is), Verizon may or may not choose to release the update to us. IIRC, Google forged an agreement with the manufacturers and the carriers to release updates for at least two years for phones that came out in 2011 (ours was released in2010), but the carriers have already reneged in a few cases. Since EH03 from Verizon has already leaked out, it's likely that we actually will get the official GB OTA from Verizon, but even if we don't get it, WE ALREADY HAVE EH03 HERE! That said, I wouldn't hold my breath for any further updates.
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True, Verizon can't be trusted.
That said, no I haven't seen John Connor.
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That said, no I haven't seen John Connor.
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Anyone else? A little help here?
Has anyone ELSE seen John Connor?
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Just wanted to say that I'm sick and tired of waiting on froyo, everyone has already gotten it or is in the process of getting it. Even the mytouch3g. Anyone who knows any valuable information on this please post and let us know. And by valuable info I mean when we will be getting it
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Well apparently we are getting it next month sometime.
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Well apparently we are getting it next month sometime.
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Says who? The Europe upgrades are getting pushed back till next month, and our will come well after that.
Samsung tweeted that froyo updates will roll out in November and all phones should have it by end of November.
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This is true. Its reported on engadget today that the initial froyo updates where pulled due to "not awesomeness" but that Samsung promised increased performance along with all the other good **** that is froyo
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Samsung tweeted that froyo updates will roll out in November and all phones should have it by end of November.
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Nevermind, read the new post
Well then, a new post is up from Engadget. This one does sound good
Our update will come from Verizon, not Samsung, so ignore any and all release dates in press releases from Samsung that do not mention Verizon or the Fascinate by name.
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Our update will come from Verizon, not Samsung, so ignore any and all release dates in press releases from Samsung that do not mention Verizon or the Fascinate by name.
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The update may come from Verizon, but I'm guessing that they give Samsung a list of what they want the update to include (bloatware, settings, etc.) and Samsung is the one responsible for getting the update out with Verizon's specs. While I'd agree that you can't believe it until it's mentioned specifically, if they say all carriers and actually mean it, then it's better than nothing.
So after much thought I have decided to at least keep this phone until LTE. It has probably the most truly capable hardware ever put n a phone. The CPU/ Gpu is great. The camera/ camcorder is second only to iPhone. Screen is great. But Samsung lack of support for their products is discouraging at the least. The phone came out after phones with froyo(D2 ) had already launched. I love this phone. See why people hate Samsung
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If we are rooted, will the update take without doing something special?
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more than likely not. As I am sure you have removed the bloatware. In all I would say the easiest thing would be to Odin back to stock with Odin(when the update comes). That would ne the easiest.
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Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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In 18 months this phone is going to hopelessly old and outdated, no matter what software the release.
And I think that statement refereed to new phones.
There's another thread talking about this already. The answer is that it's not guaranteed. This only applies to NEW devices being released. Since the Atrix was release a couple of months back, this doesn't apply.
In 18 months it will be running the same version as brand new devices released during that time.
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Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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NOT TRUE! Watch it again, he said "..all new phones..". I would assume that means from today on out. They also used the words "hardware has to allow the update". So speculate all you want but dont post incorrect statements like they are fact.
Yeah I started my post, had to run and didn't know there was a similar post before I hit submit.
New and capable...atrix fits that bill.
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Let's all hope we get Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://briefmobile.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-unites-phones-and-tablets-in-q4-2011
No. The Atrix doesn't. Is it capable? Probably, but it's definitely not new i.e. new and capable vs. new OR capable.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/
Here's an updated Engadget article. If you notice they specifically mention that this applies to new devices only. There's no guarantee ICS for the Atrix, unless Moto comes out and says it. Anyway, more clarification on this subject would be great.
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Theres no reason to worry if we get it or not. If we do then great. But why are we worrying about this when we havnt even gotten gingerbread. I'll be happy with a dual core friendly OS. By the time ICS is ready we will all be upgrading or upgraded already.
I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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to 2.3
I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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Would you be referring to 2.3 Gingerbread or ICS? Although google never gave ICS an official number (AFAIK), for all we know it'll be 2.3.X. If your referring to Gingerbread, that would make sense, in theory, but as Moto got Honeycomb early, for all we know they could have gotten ICS before Google oficially announced it and they could be putting the final touches on it right now. But that is all hopeful speculation.
More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
Just my 2 cents.
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I bet I can have 2 kids with the same woman before we get 2 updates to the core android os.
God I hate all the naysayers always trying to be negitive. There is a very good chance that this will apply to us.
I think Atrix does fit the bill. When the SGS2 arrives on ATT ...that would be a "new" release. Does that mean GS2's hardware is that much newer than the Atrix? If the SGS2 gets these updates...I'm sure the Atrix will too...
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I wouldn't get too excited. They don't even know how they are going to accomplish this yet. It's nice to see an effort from carriers and Google, but this is just something they threw together to present at I/O. There are no details.
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More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
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I need to amend what I said earlier. I have done a bit more research and have come to find ICS slated for Q4 so about then we should get ICS (October maybe? A birthday preasent for me? ). We *may* see GB in th July/August mark.
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Atrix hardware will clearly support it. There will be newer phones released in the next 6 months...and pretty sure the hardware won't be better than the Atrix. How many dual cores are on the market now? Moto set the bar with Atrix...upcoming phones are trying to match it or make it look "better" by overlooking their chips
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I hope Gingerbread is actually released one day with source and that it will be possible to make the alterations such as removing CIQ that were done with Froyo.
Time will tell.
Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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We will get it. The new Conquer has it and it is basically an Epic. I think they want to resolve the reboot issue that has plagued new Gingerbread releases from the start. Then they can wash their hands of the Epic and not worry about any more maintenance releases.
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Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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This. Too all those who doubt, read again.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Well what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much improvement from the last few leaks..
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It's coming, but I voted later.
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Wouldn't doubt it hah
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
I want an Epic2 so bad right now, I think the last rdf pushed me over the line I'm affraid to say...
I wish the epic2 had a keyboard. I'm probably going to hold off on getting any new phones until the next good android with a slide out keyboard. in the meantime I really wish they would put out source to our Dev's who seem to have a much better handle on debugging and let us get our cyanogen on. Hell with a good cyanogen 7 rom I probably wouldnt get a new phone for another 2-3 years.
Agreed, I mean I have to face the facts, Ill have this phone for at least 1 more year, and I'm sure longer, since Ill probably wait till the next "thing" comes out after I'm eligable for an upgrade.
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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I agree here. The International version has reportedly received timely updates. I don't know if they were referring to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 or an incremental bug fix upgrade but supposedly they don't have this issue. I can't resist anymore. I went to the Sprint store and the Manager is going to hold one for me until I get there on launch day. Maybe having 2 active phones is excessive but I can't wait until my upgrade comes. Also, I am not ready to get rid of my Epic. I still love this phone.
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Verizon??? The company with the last Galaxy S phone to get updated? The single carrier not to have any SIGN of the gingerbread update ever coming out for their Galaxy S phone? The carrier that believes that the Droid Charge is a suitable replacement for THE GS2? Sprint is probably the best carrier to bet on for upgrades to non "Droid" phones...
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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qb , maybe you should send a "how-to" video to Sprint/Samsung showing 'em how to get Gingerbread fixed and released
I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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Your opinion is GARBAGE lol
My friend has the fascinate and he hasnt seen an update since the half assed froyo update they got. Lol im not a commie. Youre entitled to your opinion, but it needs to be backed up with facts lol
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I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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Look how fast the g2 got it
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Galaxy Nexus release date for Verizon, AT&T, T- mobile set for Nov. 10. Going to be waiting for my chance to get this phone.
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Do you have a link to a source stating T-mobile will have it?
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This thread is a fail.
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Do you have a link to a source stating T-mobile will have it?
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No, the OP is either trolling or is seriously confused.
FOR THE TIME BEING GALAXY NEXUS IS A VERIZON EXCLUSIVE. PERIOD END OF STORY, NO IFS AND OR BUTS ABOUT IT.
I REALLY wish people would stop purposefully posting false/misleading information. It REALLY hurts these forums.
geek.com has the article that says the nexus is not exclusive to Verizon per Verizon itself
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geek.com has the article that says the nexus is not exclusive to Verizon per Verizon itself
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It is speculation. Where does it say TMobile on the 10th?
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It is speculation. Where does it say TMobile on the 10th?
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Google wouldn't release a cdma/lte phone(takes much longer time and different parts.. just take a look at wimax nexus s) first unless Verizon paid a ton of dough for exclusiveness. The hspa+ version is being released soon in the UK, so at the very least, it will be for tmobile unlocked. I bet it will go farther and subsidized too. Isn't the Verizon one just strong speculation too(given they have the moto razr)? FCC report has one confirmed with tmo bands as well. Probably not gonna be 42mbps though.
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Google wouldn't release a cdma/lte phone(takes much longer time and different parts.. just take a look at wimax nexus s) first unless Verizon paid a ton of dough for exclusiveness. The hspa+ version is being released soon in the UK, so at the very least, it will be for tmobile unlocked. I bet it will go farther and subsidized too. Isn't the Verizon one just strong speculation too(given they have the moto razr)? FCC report has one confirmed with tmo bands as well. Probably not gonna be 42mbps though.
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NO the Verizon exclusivity for the time being is NOT speculation. It was confirmed on Samsung's Facebook by "Samsung Janel" last week, or maybe it was the week prior.
She confirmed for the time being Galaxy Nexus is a Verizon exclusive. How much more proof do you guys want? It came straight from Samsung.
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NO the Verizon exclusivity for the time being is NOT speculation. It was confirmed on Samsung's Facebook by "Samsung Janel" last week, or maybe it was the week prior.
She confirmed for the time being Galaxy Nexus is a Verizon exclusive. How much more proof do you guys want? It came straight from Samsung.
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How about this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/veriz...sive-no-more?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Exclusive in the US, for now. It will be released in Europe around the same time Verizon gets it, so you will be able to import it if you want, but I would guess it will be on the other US carriers. Maybe Verizon gets a month, maybe three but if Google wants to sell this phone they wont leave it on Verizon for too long. I personally will wait and see but not too long, I will just import it if I have to.
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Exclusive in the US, for now. It will be released in Europe around the same time Verizon gets it, so you will be able to import it if you want, but I would guess it will be on the other US carriers. Maybe Verizon gets a month, maybe three but if Google wants to sell this phone they wont leave it on Verizon for too long. I personally will wait and see but not too long, I will just import it if I have to.
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I have a feeling that many of us vibrant users will want to import an intl version that will work with t-mo.. but I haven't been able to find the verified hardware specs for the UK version yet. Intl phones always seem to get better and faster updates, so as a google phone I imagine it would be even better.
I wonder if we could do a group-buy type thing if enough here were willing to import?
It may not release officially from Tmobile but it has their hspa+ bands, so u could easily buy it unlocked and use it for Tmobile, which is what I'm definitely doing and can't frickin wait!
"it don't matter your race, just take a blunt to the face" -Kid Cudi
Slasher just posted date for Verizon nexus 11/28 I how
Tmobile picks up this phone as well door xmas
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It may not release officially from Tmobile but it has their hspa+ bands
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I thought it only has the slower edge bands?!? If the 4g bands were supported I'd consider an import at the right price.
Verizon increases data cap to 4GB!!!!!
Nexus on Verizon 4G LTE with 4GB data cap should work out well.
As the title says read here. Only 6 to 8 weeks.
S3 users have to wait till january!
It is Optus so there is a chance we'll be waiting until then also. My old Incredible S' ICS update was pushed back by months.
Samsung seem always delay...
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Samsung seem always delay...
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Motorola is by far the worst company on bring updates on time...in fact some updates never come, like ICS for Motorola Atrix (I´m still waiting for it). So I rather wait for some weeks than never get the update.
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Motorola is by far the worst company on bring updates on time...in fact some updates never come, like ICS for Motorola Atrix (I´m still waiting for it). So I rather wait for some weeks than never get the update.
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LG is also worse. A lot updates never come. They are forgetting their other flagships.
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Motorola is by far the worst company on bring updates on time...in fact some updates never come, like ICS for Motorola Atrix (I´m still waiting for it). So I rather wait for some weeks than never get the update.
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Hi Cocolopes, I ditched the atrix for the note II after they cancelled that bloody update! Haha came to the note forums.
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Samsung seem always delay...
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But this is the date the carrier plans to release the update, it's not on Samsung's side. So if they plan to push the update on December the official release from Samsung (unbranded devices) should be before that. November?
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But this is the date the carrier plans to release the update, it's not on Samsung's side. So if they plan to push the update on December the official release from Samsung (unbranded devices) should be before that. November?
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Exactly! It must be at least a month prior to carrier update because carriers have to customize ROM with their wallpaper, bootanimation (at least) etc. And since we have new leak, I am afraid we will get nothing new (camera, etc) since there is not enough time... Let's just hope I'm wrong
I would stick Clear of any Optus Firmware it's over bloated with very nasty apps – that install before first boot. Horrendously ugly custom app icons. In fact Optus 4.3 vs. Official Stock 4.3 is using over 330MB of RAM usage out the box.