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Galaxy S will be here in July. Buyer's remorse anyone?

Just heard from an EXTREMELY reliable source in TMO that the Galaxy S will be announced on June 19 and will be available sometime in July. I love my Slide but it's hard for me to pass up a package like the Galaxy S. My biggest concern is that it's a Samsung. My next concern is that the rooting effort for the Slide could potentially loose a great deal of steam when the Galaxy S is released.
While I haven't taken any of the Samsung Android devices seriously in the past, the Galaxy S specs are pretty impressive. I am absolutely satisfied with my MT3G Slide and with HTC. Currently I am still in my buyer's remorse period and have the option of returning the Slide. The purpose of the thread is just to help me not do something stupid like getting a Samsung Android device. My heart likes the idea of that beautifully big and bright AMOLED screen, 16gb of internal memory, 8mp camera and 1ghz CPU. My brain says "STICK WITH HTC".
What do you guys think?
UPDATE: both my wife and my MT3G Slides have light leaks in the plastic housing surrounding the touch screen (in the seam) . Dust has already gotten in under my screen. We are returning both devices as I refuse to handle this issue under warranty. It has been a nice run and I am extremely disappointed that I have to give this device back but the initial manufacturing run is defective. Hopefully they address the issue so I can buy one with confidence.

NJAZ said:
Just heard from an EXTREMELY reliable source in TMO that the Galaxy S will be announced on June 19 and will be available sometime in July. I love my Slide but it's hard for me to pass up a package like the Galaxy S. My biggest concern is that it's a Samsung. My next concern is that the rooting effort for the Slide will loose a great deal of steam when the Galaxy S is released.
What do you guys think?
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na im still happy with my slide if the galaxy s was already out and i had to chose between the 2 it would still be the MyTouch slide hopefully root does come to the slide tho i know wesgarner and a few other devs are working on it

it's a difficult time to make decisions on a phone; Samsung up to this point has had a horrible record for updating their phones, copping out on a promise to upgrade the behold 2 to 2.0 and being incredibly slow on updating the moment; what good is it when the manufacturer won't update/release drivers compatible with the latest base code? The only thing that makes me feel good about the galaxy's future (despite being a top notch phone at its release spec wise) is that samsung is doing a massive release on it, which should increase their investment in the phone's support in a logical world.
The Mytouch slide, despite its midrange specs has performed well for me although its radio is far inferior to my old g1 on 3g reception and developer support for achieving root is minimal atm.

I read bad things about Samsung leaving the behold owners out to dry. Plus I prefer the option to use a physical keypad (especially when typing in passwords) and the galaxy S doesn't have a flash for the camera which is sort of a deal breaker for me.
but anyway I actually got my Slide for free because they made an "exception" for me . So I'm eligible for a full discount at the beginning of 2011 and we'll see what the next cool thing is then.

Was just out rolling around town running the MT3G Slide through the car stereo ... this phone is just luscious. I think I'm going to stick with HTC on this one rather than getting stuck with Samsung . The Slide is the perfect size and so far I have had no problems at all. I guess I'll just have to continue meditating on it but I'm leaning towards keeping it. I appreciate your continued thoughts on the issue as we take our new Slides through their steps.

Android that isn't HTC is a hard sell for me. Even the EVO and Driod are hard sells because Motorola makes crap products. Samsung phones are pretty terrible and the support they offer is just as terrible.
HTC for me

SAMSUCKS no thank you I was one of those that got burnt with the behold2

I'm well aware of the of samsung's flagship coming to tmo next month but no regrets for me cause I got this phone so I can bear waiting to see tmo's lineup at the end of the year. Lol This phone is TRULY awesome btw.
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I thought the beholdII incident would hender samsung. I'm straight with my myslide. Samsung ui's are always kiddie looking to me and I can't take a samsung serious because of it. Btw good luck with updates as past behavior dictates.
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galaxy s ..... s stands for sux
im sorry but has samsung ever had and good devs i have been down the road of motorola and i have to say it left me wanting . i have had htc phones before and loved them *cough cough dash* but even that was a good phone i say mt slides the way to go and screw any other company
Go Android Mofia

This thread really baked my noodle. I was planning to get a MT3G Slide at the end of the month... now I'm second guessing. I could give a rats ass about the keyboard on the slide, I just want it because its currently T-Mo's best android phone and my G1 needs an upgrade. One factor is cost... I am currently at the 18-month mark for my contract, so phones are a little more expensive for me. MT3G Slide is $270 for me. Steep, but I get to break it up over 4 months bills, so I can deal with it. I'm afraid this phone out of the gate will be costly, more so that I am willing to spend on a new phone. The other factor is development. My magic ball says the Slide will have pretty good dev support once it gets rooted. I fear the galaxy will end up on the back burner and not really have good dev support. I've not seen much dev support for non-HTC devices.
So, Slide has the benefit of being HTC, better UI, better dev support (I assume).
Galaxy will be faster, sleeker (would rather not have a keyboard), but I run the risk of having no software support for my expensive new hardware.
What to do?

Um, unless I'm missing something, the Galaxy doesn't have a physical keyboard, right? That will probably not make me feel bad for getting the Slide.
Edit: Removed Samsung bashing...

The Galaxy S is the only considerable Android device from Samsung in my opinion. I find it hard to believe that anyone purchased the "Behold2" as it was never even a remote consideration for me. I think the Galaxy S will be handled much differently, dev wise, than the crap fest that the "Behold2" very obviously was. I've pretty much decided to keep the Slide because it is very nearly perfect. Thanks again for the constructive discussion; this is why I rely on XDA. Friends don't let friends buy Samsung

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The Galaxy S is the only considerable Android device from Samsung in my opinion. I find it hard to believe that anyone purchased the "Behold2" as it was never even a remote consideration for me. I think the Galaxy S will be handled much differently, dev wise, than the crap fest that the "Behold2" very obviously was. I've pretty much decided to keep the Slide because it is very nearly perfect. Thanks again for the constructive discussion; this is why I rely on XDA. Friends don't let friends buy Samsung
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Thats funny, and I'm sure it will follow the behold II foot steps. have a lot of hype before release. Then once its released like 2 people will buy it and 1 person will take it back and the other does a terrible review of it.

Digitaldreamer7 said:
Android that isn't HTC is a hard sell for me. Even the EVO and Driod are hard sells because Motorola makes crap products. Samsung phones are pretty terrible and the support they offer is just as terrible.
HTC for me
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Just putting it out there... The EVO is HTC

Could Samsung be that dumb?
Dont get me wrong when it comes to mid/high range cells samsung fails miserably... Ive been working for The Mob (T-mobile) for 2 years and samsung has not impressed me at all... Now the Behold, memoir, and highlight are all the same crap phones that look different but are the same... When the behold 2 was released with android I was excitied then I saw how simular it was to the rest crap that samsung is. some new phones from samsung I noticed like the gravity-t has an android feel to it... a must *see* if you like phones in general... I was impressed for the first time by samsung... So thier mid level phones are getting pretty techy!
dang what im saying is Samsung cannot be that stupid to make the same mistake twice. The galaxy was in the works for about a year now, then pushed back. A lot of work is being put into this phone, not to mention the tablet version as well. Ive noticed a boost in Samsungs ability to make a high end "super" phone.
I think I will wait till I see the demo in store before I buy. But ladies and gents lets not for get Q4 is when new phones come out for the holiday. Dont be hasty, wait till then... the 1ghz processor is getting old as far as tech is concerned. but I doubt carriers will go beyond for at least a year. but maybe another NEXUS type with super-duper specs! lol

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Just putting it out there... The EVO is HTC
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Yea I re-read this today and saw that error lol. What I meant about the evo is that out of all the stuff I have read about it versus the N1 is that the N1 is fundamentally better . Sorry for the confusion and thanks for catching that lol.

As absolutely *****in as the Galaxy S looks, I just don't think I could do it. Samsung has burned too many bridges as far as I'm concerned, and they've made too many mistakes. I don't know that I could ever see Samsung as an equal to HTC when it came to a superphone. I know they've all got their problems, but I'll go with what I know and love for right now, and stick with the Slide.

Samsung sucks
As nice as the Galaxy looks, it lacks a keyboard, and its from Samsung..two deal breakers from me. I love my slide, its quick, it has a keyboard, and it handles high end games.

Why go to a samsung over a HTC? Everyone knows what happens with samsung phones. What's the main advantages over the slide? I feel there is none. The screen is better of coarse but who really complains about the mytouch slide's screen? It has a 1ghz processor but it has TouchWiz on it. If i recall Touchwiz killed the behold 2, and the slide only has 600mhz but it's so fast and I NEVER had an encounter with it being even close to slow. Mytouch slide will have everyone supporting it just like the g1, while the galaxy s won't even have close to that support.
I just don't seem whats the hype is all about. Am I missing something?

[Q] Should I get the Epic 4G?

I'm still in the market for a new phone, and had my heart set on the Epic from the start. However, when I started delving deeper into the different phones, I started feeling apprehensive toward the Epic.
Why I want it:
Video/picture quality seems better than the other phones I was looking at
5row QWERTY
Non-smudgy back plate
Good stock SD card
Super AMOLED
Why I'm apprehensive toward it:
It's running 2.1 and people think Samsung is abandoning the phone
Ideally, I wanted a 4 or 4.3in display
To get 2.2 and faster speeds, I'd have to use a ROM -- I have no idea how to do it, and I also don't like the themes most of the community ROMs have.
The other phones I was interested in were the EVO 4g, the Nexus S, the Droid X, and maybe another Galaxy S phone.
So, my question to the Epic 4g community: How do you like the phone? Have you tried any of the other phones I've listed? Am I going to get shafted by Samsung and never get a 2.2 update, or is it just as easy to flash the leaked 2.2?

I lovemy epic. Greatest phone I've had. It does everything I want. I got the epic to future proof myself.
Itsvery easy to flash the leaked froyo. You don't even gotta be rooted! Also, theleaked froyo is bascally a release candidate, being almost complete but still lacking little things like bluetooth audio out.
If those are the phones on our short list, get the epic. When samsung finally releases official final froyo,those phones will have nothing on the epic.
If you can't wait for froyo, then a5least get a new dualcore phone so you can be sure you won't be left behind
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Agreed. The epic is absolutely fantastic. Even on 2.1 it's vastly better than the evo, which my girlfriend has. The nexus s however looks great and if that was on sprint it'd be a toss up for me. Don't listen to all the nay saying going on right now. Samsung easily had the best camera, screens and processor combo available for the current gen. Once you go oled it'd be hard to go back. I just recently flashed the new trulyepic 1.2 rom and imo, that's the way to go right now if want froyo. Runs fantastic.
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Well the first question I'd have for you is what carrier are you looking at? Because you just listed a bunch of phones in the OP that are on different carriers. As far as the Epic is concerned, I love it ... it has a LOT of issues, including Samsung's Froyo delay that you mentioned, but it's still one of the fastest phones out there (with a kick ass GPU mind you). Again, it depends on what you need. If you don't need QWERTY, then you might want to look at the Evo as that is one of the best supported phones on the market (in terms of the dev community).

NecroNetics said:
I'm still in the market for a new phone, and had my heart set on the Epic from the start. However, when I started delving deeper into the different phones, I started feeling apprehensive toward the Epic.
Why I want it:
Video/picture quality seems better than the other phones I was looking at
5row QWERTY
Non-smudgy back plate
Good stock SD card
Super AMOLED
Why I'm apprehensive toward it:
It's running 2.1 and people think Samsung is abandoning the phone
Ideally, I wanted a 4 or 4.3in display
To get 2.2 and faster speeds, I'd have to use a ROM -- I have no idea how to do it, and I also don't like the themes most of the community ROMs have.
The other phones I was interested in were the EVO 4g, the Nexus S, the Droid X, and maybe another Galaxy S phone.
So, my question to the Epic 4g community: How do you like the phone? Have you tried any of the other phones I've listed? Am I going to get shafted by Samsung and never get a 2.2 update, or is it just as easy to flash the leaked 2.2?
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the keyboard is convenient but i dont like it. my roommate has a g2 and it feels alot better..
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4 inch is fine. 2.2 might be out soon but the roms out leave very little to be desired anyway... then again u cant really go wrong with any of the phones on your list haha.

Thanks for the replies, guys.
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Well the first question I'd have for you is what carrier are you looking at? Because you just listed a bunch of phones in the OP that are on different carriers. As far as the Epic is concerned, I love it ... it has a LOT of issues, including Samsung's Froyo delay that you mentioned, but it's still one of the fastest phones out there (with a kick ass GPU mind you). Again, it depends on what you need. If you don't need QWERTY, then you might want to look at the Evo as that is one of the best supported phones on the market (in terms of the dev community).
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The carrier isn't important to me. It relies solely on the phone -- although, I think Sprint has one of the cheapest plans.

If trade my epic for a nexus s any day... The screen on both if my epics became loose after weeks and I harshly use the keyboard anyway
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I guess it really depends on what you are coming from. I was a die hard blackberry user.... *throws up a bit* came directly to and specifically waited for the epic after seeing several inferior android phones but knew it was where I wanted to settle once I was able to dig deeper helping a few friends mod.
Point being if it will be the first phone of this caliber, I think you will love the epic and there is no reason not to in most cases as the phone is blazing, couple it with some of the mods from the devs here.... it will be sweet. That being said, the same would likely apply to most of the other phones in your list.
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Only if you want a keyboard. I think that's all the Epic has over the Evo at this point. Yes it's faster, yes the screen is better, but.. Samsung support is terrible, while 2.1 runs fine and there are 2.2 leaks its still a sorry state to be in for a "flagship" phone.
IF you're interested in Roms.. go with an HTC. While the Evo is running a 98% functional CM7 and MIUI, and (Insert popular rom name here), the Epic's (while the developers are all awesome! This is NOT a knock) are more or less just customizations and ported applications with a breakthrough here and there such as EXT4.
Samsung is absolutely ridiculous "#neveragain". The keyboard skips letters, the GPS is moody and only works when it wants to, updates are pretty much MIA. Yes the epic is a little bit faster, with a more colorful screen, but at what cost.
Thanks to the Skippy keyboard I've become a professional on the onscreen keyboards and am highly considering a Evo off of Ebay while I can still sell the Epic for more. Maybe that gives you an idea of what it's like to own a Samsung.
</endrant> All rants aside... it's not a bad phone by any stretch of the imagination. Samsung is just better at products that don't need much support after release... like TV's...

The epic (galaxy s phone) has the best diplay and fastest GPU on the market as of posting this.
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Should I wait for something better or upgrade now?

I have the evo shift now. I'm due for an upgrade. And wondering if anything's coming out that's worth waiting for.
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did you buy your evo shift out of pocket?
anyway, next up for sprint is evo 3d, and nexus s 4g.

I would get the EVO 3D if I had an upgrade =)
EVO 3D = HTC
Nexus S = Crapsung

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I would get the EVO 3D if I had an upgrade =)
EVO 3D = HTC
Nexus S = Crapsung
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Yeah the EVO 3d is coming out no release date but that Samsung at 1.6 hits 4000 quadrant that's a lot so I'm leaning towards the nexus even though I just got my shift for valentines day
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well, the reason i am upgrading is this. my wife. my wifes line was due for an upgrade a couple of months ago. i wanted to ditch the palm pre so i upgraded her line and got the shift. i gave her my pre. the pre is giving her issues. not sure if its network or not, but ive done all i can for the pre but its a pain, so now my line is up for renewal and i figured id get her the shift also (i like it a lot, running cm7 and never looked back).
i got the shift because of the physical keyboard. i wasnt ready to got touch keyboard only yet.
she is of the same mind.
though ive got used to the on screen keyboard lately, and mused getting a different device. nothing is catching my eye though, so i just got my wife the evo shift 4g. thanks for the advice!

I've an upgrade sitting on my account. I've not seen anything compelling enough for me to upgrade to, so I'm holding out.
Besides, I'm serious "lusting" after a tablet and trying to figure out HOW to explain it to dear ole wifey.

In my opinion, a physical keyboard is a necessity for a smartphone...Even with the brilliant Gingerbread virtual keyboard (or the Gingerbread keyboard app on the Market for 2.1/2.2 phones).
That being said, as far as I know, there are no planned phones coming soon that have a physical keyboard and are running Android so I would say wait for one of them. Because as it always seems to turn out that the phone with a physical keyboard that follows the "flagship phone" is always way better than the flagship phone.
So if the Evo 3D is that nice, just imagine how nice the "Evo Shift 3D" will be.

since i made that post, i have had a few hiccups with my phone. im running cm7, and as you know getting data and gps functioning just right can be an issue. ive been running cm7 for about a month now and i love it. but since ive had a series of ironing out kinks with a custom rom i am heavily debating getting the nexus s 4g. ive found that i like a physical keyboard, a lot. it was a deal breaker with many phones in the past. but now ive been using the gingerbread keyboard and i find im not pulling open the keyboard as often as i thought i would.
i'll figure it out by the end of the week. i need to handle the nexus s, and do some more research.
i think it would be cool to have a pure google device.

BiffTirkle said:
since i made that post, i have had a few hiccups with my phone. im running cm7, and as you know getting data and gps functioning just right can be an issue. ive been running cm7 for about a month now and i love it. but since ive had a series of ironing out kinks with a custom rom i am heavily debating getting the nexus s 4g. ive found that i like a physical keyboard, a lot. it was a deal breaker with many phones in the past. but now ive been using the gingerbread keyboard and i find im not pulling open the keyboard as often as i thought i would.
i'll figure it out by the end of the week. i need to handle the nexus s, and do some more research.
i think it would be cool to have a pure google device.
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Just remember, the Nexus S still has that Samsung build quality. In other words, it's plastic, instead of the familiar metal from HTC. That feeling alone is the main reason I won't get a Samsung phone, I like to feel that my phone has some strength behind it.

The Shift was my first smartphone and at the time I also believed I would forever want a physical keyboard. And for months it was true.
Then I installed Swype.
My next phone will probably not have a keyboard because of how easy Swype is for me to use. I can type as fast on it as I can on a physical keyboard. The only thing that would hold me back from getting a phone without a keyboard now is the fact I like to play emulators. I am guessing there will be a bluetooth gamepad available at some point in the next year and a half that will solve that problem though so my next phone will probably be physical keyboard free.
However, if you really want a physical keyboard I am guessing the Shift will be the phone to have on Sprint for quite awhile since it didn't come out for like 7 months after the EVO. So, if there is an EVO Shift 3D it probably won't be out until next January or around that time. Maybe Samsung will have a version of their Galaxy 2 on Sprint with a keyboard but I haven't seen any mention of it and would honestly be kind of surprised if they do that again for one carrier.

ok, so the nexus s sucked. well, not really. it was nice. but too big, felt too cheap, and i couldnt get it to open up as a usb drive on vmware. so i took it back. the shift is (in my opinion) perfect size for one handed use. so here i am rerooting, reloading everything back. ugh...

Just wait for the EVO shift 4d 5g running android 4.0 ice cream sandwich
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I like my Shift....I had the Epic before....I liked it for about a week then the problems came....keyboard was skipping letters....no froyo (well not official anyways) and it just had that samsung quality that just isn't there...then I went back to trade in and got the shift.....I will only buy HTC phones from now on....HTC makes by far the best android phone and the best build quality
Zach

What made you buy the Epic 4g?

I bought the hero on launch day and wanted to upgrade to a nexus 1 but sprint wasnt getting it and instead revealed the EVO which I wanted at first. Luckily, my upgrade wasn't until october of 2010 which meant I had to wait to get my EVO (because I loved my Hero and it looked like a logical upgrade lol) and then that's when samsung dropped the Galaxy S bomb.
The specs on the Galaxy S Pro (our "Epics") were AMAZING. 1GB RAM, 16GB ROM, SD Slot, TV-Out, keyboard, vga FFC (only letdown compared to EVO) and all of that in a package the SAME SIZE as my hero? GOTTA GET IT.
Then sprint realized how much money they wasted marketing the Evo (inferior phone) and instead gimped the epic so people will go for the vo which looked so much better on paper so the average consumer won't know they're getting jipped :/
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Specs, keyboard. 4G was a bonus, but I didn't have it at the time. Sprint was known to be non-evil. And I really needed an upgrade - HTC Fuze on AT&T which was on its way out.

It was an pretty overall good phone when I bought it
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I had a flip phone on SERO and I wanted a smart phone. I almost gave up waiting and tried the Captivate on ATT. I could not adjust to the virtual keyboard.
The Epic has a hardware keyboard like a previous (windows) smart phone I had years ago. When they allowed the SERO plan to be upgraded for the Epic, I ordered it first day.

I was also originally going for the EVO also, but then I realized I needed to research before buying lol.
So I ended up going for the Epic. For the keyboard and the Hummingbird processor was superior to the Snapdragon. Plus the Epic's camera sensor was also better than the EVO's.
Also first Android phone with the Epic, its been a great experience.
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I mainly bought for the keyboard, oh and HTC...
I was coming from an HTC Touch Pro 2 (which I was given because the Touch Pro 1 I had was replaced 3 times due to a faulty slide). Needless to say I was a little down on HTC and WM.
4G was a nice little bonus but I don't care about it and rarely use it.
Edit: The Epic was also my first Android phone so it was nice to learn something new too!

I bought a Moment in March '10 and it was severely underwhelming. I did a lot of research on the Epic and fell in love with it. I'm still pleased with my overall experience on this phone.
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keypad with numbers
built better than other sliders, evo had complaints on the mechanism
my boss has gone through 4 evos that just keep breaking.

The sgx 545
Edit: sgx 540 I saw it had 1/3 the triangles per second as the ps3
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I bought mine when i first got a job because i switched to sprint on my parents line and they got me a ****ty flip phone...
I picked it over the Evo because of the samoled screen and because of the keyboard.
i was iffy about it because the updates were slowwww. but i dont regret it at all and if i had the same choice to make, id make the same choice.
<3 this phone.

Keyboard, SAMOLED 4" screen, 4G, best mobile CPU. Came from a BB on Sprint and a Nokia "dumb phone" on AT&T, and wanted to consolidate to using only 1 phone, and Sprint has the best price plans for my needs.

xopher.hunter said:
The sgx 545
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Btw, we have sgx540
And I moved to epic from verizon so I could get a smartphone while keeping an arm and a leg. I had an lg env touch which was a decent feature phone with an awful resistive touchscreen, but decent keyboard. And before that I had the verizon coupe flip phone complete with a 911 button and several in case of emergency buttons. I think it was meant as a "last phone" for the elderly, but I got it as my first phone.
Picked the epic because of the keyboard, super amoled, and hummingbird processor and great gpu powervr sgx540.
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I was coming from the Rant and it was like a big fancy version of it.

I had the hero as well . I was upgrade eligible but the only choices were evo & epic so I was just gonna wait it out. That was until best buy had the Epic free for a week so I jumped on it. I was actually a sense guy at that point and was leaning more toward the evo.... Glad that sale changed my mind..love this phone!

I came from the rumor touch 2... and I picked it over the evo because the wife had an evo and I hated it! Don't regret for one second the decision I made... I love this phone!
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For me, it was a no-brainer. I came to Sprint from Verizon Wireless and I had the Samsung "Rogue" multimedia 3G phone. I loved the slide out keyboard and the AMOLED display. The Epic is basically the Rogue on steroids. It's nearly a year since I bought it, my first smartphone ever. I'm still happy with it, thanks in no small part to all the awesome people here on XDA and everything everyone contributed. There's no way I would've been able to enjoy this phone and its full potential without all the awesome apps, themes, kernels, and ROMS and the knowledge and understanding to use them. I'm lucky that my first smartphone experience has been such a positive one so far.

Only android Sprint had at the time that had a keyboard. A smartphone without a real keyboard just makes me feel like I have to tie my hands behind my back and use my toes. No thanks.

Keyboard.
Came from touchpro to touchpro2. There was no htc slider available at the time.
I was holding out for the htc arrive (windows phone). I'm glad I went for android before that thing came out...
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WindowsMobile died. Coming from the TP2 and every KB phone before it, it was a no-brainer for me.

worldwidepmp said:
WindowsMobile died. Coming from the TP2 and every KB phone before it, it was a no-brainer for me.
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I was an OG Touch Pro user and with all its flaws I knew a smartphone with keyboard and touchscreen (it was one of the first, resistive natch) was the stuff to continue to have. But Android was clearly for me too--OG WinMo was hell. So combined with the awesome hardware and 4G it was the clear choice. The screen also still dazzles. Any time I see people *****ing about the Epic all I have to do is think back to 2008 and LOL.

Any QWERTY keyboard phones on the horizon?

Now I have to say, I love this phone. It is incredibly cheap and I refuse to let go of it. But it is getting dated, despite it running CM10 fairly well. I desperately want to upgrade, but I want a keyboard. I can't stand typing on a touch screen.
I know Motorola has a couple phones with keyboards, but IIRC porting a Motorola phone to a service like Boost is all but impossible. Something about the instructions for doing a few changes on Motorola phones isn't programmed into Linux or something. I know Qualcom chipsets are easy to change things in the phone, but Motorola is weird.
So basically I'm hoping for something from Samsung, LG, or HTC that isn't dated as hell. A good phone that competes with the touch screen only phones. Anyone see anything new?

All that is out or will be available in the near future is the LG Cayenne and Moto Photon Q.

Just saw this rumor!!!
I so hope this is true, more, I hope it comes to Sprint!!!
Samsung Galaxy S3 with Android Jelly Bean and keyboard leaks?
October 23, 2012, 10:20 A.M., Tuesday, New York local time — Samsung is launching a new Galaxy S3 variant with Android Jelly Bean, and QWERTY keyboard?
Well it looks like Samsung is on the verge of adding yet another Samsung Galaxy S3 variant this year. Last week, Samsung unveiled the Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini, the smaller version of the popular Android handset with a dual-core processor and the latest version of Android, the Android Jelly Bean mobile operating system. Now, a new leak is suggesting that Samsung is testing a new Galaxy device that runs Android Jelly Bean mobile operating system too, but with a more unusual display resolution, 1280 x 672.
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DCRocks said:
Just saw this rumor!!!
I so hope this is true, more, I hope it comes to Sprint!!!
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:good: Nice find .... we may still have hope ... :fingers-crossed:

^ Holy ****! if this is true, it looks like the Epic family (current & past) will all be on a new device, in the same place again! I hope this is true. if it is, we will have THE BEST development community and members, hands down. Wish for the best!

DCRocks said:
Just saw this rumor!!!
I so hope this is true, more, I hope it comes to Sprint!!!
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This would be great! The LG Cayenne sounds cool too!
It's kind of upsetting though. When we look at the Galaxy S3, the US was given one with a dual core processor, while anywhere else had the quad core exynos processor. The LG Optimus G has me intrigued, but again...no keyboard. LG seems to release a lot of keyboard models though. Perhaps?
It would have been good news if I hadn't heard about the Optimus G just last week lol.

Just an update, they're now speculating that will just be a phone with a fold-able LCD screen. I had so much hope for this one!
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/10/26/samsung-to-introduce-their-first-foldable-touchscreen-device/

Looks like I'm going to be staying with the Epic for a while then. Photon Q with it's non-replaceable battery is a no-go for me, and the Cayenne doesn't look like that much of an upgrade from the Epic.
I feel a lot better about the Epic at this point in time than I did with the step-child Samsung Moment I had a year ago and I still haven't tried CM9 yet, still on TPR 2.1.

VaderSS said:
Looks like I'm going to be staying with the Epic for a while then. Photon Q with it's non-replaceable battery is a no-go for me, and the Cayenne doesn't look like that much of an upgrade from the Epic.
I feel a lot better about the Epic at this point in time than I did with the step-child Samsung Moment I had a year ago and I still haven't tried CM9 yet, still on TPR 2.1.
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Try it
Rocking cm9.1

http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-mach-coming-sprint-november-11-too
SMH....It looks like I will be holding on to "old faithful" until Sprint show me something that's worth upgrading to.
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it's the end of the line for high end keyboard phones. even the once mighty verizon droid # series has been overtaken by the droid razr...

jworkcoo said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-mach-coming-sprint-november-11-too
SMH....It looks like I will be holding on to "old faithful" until Sprint show me something that's worth upgrading to.
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Probably not what you want because the battery is embedded and there's no microSD slot or HWKB but the pre order for the Optimus G is on the sprint site. It has a 1.5 Ghz quadcore S4 pro with 2 gigs of ram and 32 gigs of internal storage. With a 13 MP camera and a 4.7" screen.
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VaderSS said:
Looks like I'm going to be staying with the Epic for a while then. Photon Q with it's non-replaceable battery is a no-go for me, and the Cayenne doesn't look like that much of an upgrade from the Epic.
I feel a lot better about the Epic at this point in time than I did with the step-child Samsung Moment I had a year ago and I still haven't tried CM9 yet, still on TPR 2.1.
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tmobile has Samsung Relay 4G which is Epic 2 and its 1.5GHz dual core... here's the link
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-Relay-4G_id7300

It also has a gig of ram, 8gigs of onboard storage, official ICS, and NFC
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jworkcoo said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-mach-coming-sprint-november-11-too
SMH....It looks like I will be holding on to "old faithful" until Sprint show me something that's worth upgrading to.
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It's sad when you see a phone like that that is barely better in the processor department, and worse in camera and other departments.
Also nobody likes LG phones. I bought the LG Fathom years ago, which had a lot of promise but was ultimately ignored by the community. Samsung seems to be the modding phone of choice. Motorola you can't port to other carriers without being able to change ESN, which Motorola is difficult about. There are some current methods that were made in the last year, but I'm not confident they work %100.

I'm going to miss my physical keyboard as much as the next guy, but a lot of my friends have said that changing to a touch screen keyboard was annoying for a couple weeks and then they could type just as fast. Try forcing yourself to use the touch screen keyboard for a week or two, and see if you get over needing the physical one. That way you don't buy a substandard phone because it's the only one with a physical keyboard.
That being said, I really wish there were more choices with hardware keyboards.

alyptic said:
I'm going to miss my physical keyboard as much as the next guy, but a lot of my friends have said that changing to a touch screen keyboard was annoying for a couple weeks and then they could type just as fast. Try forcing yourself to use the touch screen keyboard for a week or two, and see if you get over needing the physical one. That way you don't buy a substandard phone because it's the only one with a physical keyboard.
That being said, I really wish there were more choices with hardware keyboards.
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i hate the feeling and my fingers hurt and just feel so weird i like the placement of my finger tips on the keyboard

XxLostSoulxX said:
i hate the feeling and my fingers hurt and just feel so weird i like the placement of my finger tips on the keyboard
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I agree. I used my girlfriend's galaxy S2 for a day. I wanted to kick a puppy. It's awful! With my Epic, I can do something, not look at the screen, and text. I'll be staring at the computer monitor at work while texting and my boss doesn't get mad.

Another 5 row QWERTY
There is another phone coming to Ting, a Sprint MVNO that is less expensive for many people.They do not subbsidize their phones.
I am currently running my Epic 4G on Ting testing their BYOD. Tethering even works won the stock ROM without any hacking!
Ting will soon be offering the LG Mach . https://ting.com/blog/device-update-lets-get-back-at-it/
For those who might be interested in Ting's BYOD, here is the latest update.
https://ting.com/blog/byosd-progress-report-and-wider-beta-launch-announced/
I know I am happy to be back on my Epic 4G again. I could barely tolerate the 3 row QWERTY I used when I first moved to Ting.

Get you hands on a note 2 and you'll forget about the keyboards. Big and easy with a 5th row. I'm a huge fan of the physical keyboard. I miss my epic, but don't let it hold you back. You do get use to the screen.
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