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Hi there,
Is there a guide available for the SGS2 camera? i received my device with no guide of the camera and I really want to know about "beauty shot", "action shot" (which im having a hard time getting useful shots with) and "outdoor visibility" which seems to brighten up the screen but not the resulting image.
anyone can shed some light onto those features and maybe post decent "action shots" made by him?
thanks!
Have a read through the attached manual. It does talk about the camera modes that you mentioned, as well as lots of other stuff.
Hope it helps
thanks alot man!
i still would love to see some "action shots though" from other people
"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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Isadora said:
"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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you are not right here my fried.
action shot is some kind of a panoramic shot (am i confusing options here?) that involves the camera tracking an object across a certain area while it is moving.
it also takes a few shots and not just one.
Ok so high shutter speed combined with multiple shots and possibly some kind of focus tracking (though that last bit would surprise me in a phone camera - will check it at some point!) As I've said, I'm not a fan of pre-set modes, they never quite do what I want! I'm a photographer btw so I'm just used to shooting in manual, including motorsport, I'm not sure I even know how to put my cameras in auto lol
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Edit: actually it *is* different to the sports mode (which is under "scenes") - my bad. Not quite proper focus tracking though, you have to follow whatever it is that is moving and then it combines the shots into a single picture quite clever really. Will have to try it for fun though my usual test subjects (the cats!) are asleep right now.
Edit 2: had a play... it's a bit weird you take the first shot, then follow the subject and the camera takes more pictures as and when 1) it has decided that you've moved enough (like with the panorama mode) and 2) thinks that whatever you're following is in focus (it failed a bit on that point tbh). That's what I don't like about auto-stuff... camera decides when it should do something, which isn't necessarily when I want it to do it. It is quite fun though. More testing needed have all day free tomorrow so will do it then
Right, best result so far... Not great tbh, I've found that if the object moves too slowly, pictures don't get taken because the camera doesn't realise it should; if the object moves too fast then the focus is a bit hit and miss. Then when it does manage to do what it should you have the problem of [ insert swear word of choice] auto exposure so in the attached pic you can easily tell where the pictures are joined.
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Well, HTC gave the One to professional photographers and the outcome was those great images! What do you think?
Source: http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-photography/?NS01
WoW...
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While they are good, I've got to say I've seen the One's camera take better quality photos.
saw those, if im honest, i dont think theyre overly impressive, the feather is nice though
but its impossible to tell if theyre "good" or not without knowing the conditions they were shot in.
im assuming they were all shot in fairly low light with no flash based on the background, in which case yea, the colours are impressive - im surprised HTC didn't say that though
lack of detail is clear though even when full screen on computer
I agree.. Some people still have a doubt about this camera, but its taking great images. I have my own Canon camera when going on trips or travel. But this camera is great enough for my daily use.
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saw those, if im honest, i dont think theyre overly impressive, the feather is nice though
but its impossible to tell if theyre "good" or not without knowing the conditions they were shot in.
im assuming they were all shot in fairly low light with no flash based on the background, in which case yea, the colours are impressive - im surprised HTC didn't say that though
lack of detail is clear though even when full screen on computer
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You're over thinking it too much in my opinion. Does it really matter what was the setting or conditions they were taken in? Not everyone cares about taking a perfect photo but one that looks appealing to the person taking it.
I'm pretty sure those pictures were taken in the perfect setting and conditions and the look great in my opinion. That tells me that some one with not such great conditions and not a professional will be able to take very descent photos.
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For a mobile phone 1st of all those pics are great, can't believe people can be so critical. If you want top quality photos go and by a DLSR
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You're over thinking it too much in my opinion. Does it really matter what was the setting or conditions they were taken in? Not everyone cares about taking a perfect photo but one that looks appealing to the person taking it.
I'm pretty sure those pictures were taken in the perfect setting and conditions and the look great in my opinion. That tells me that some one with not such great conditions and not a professional will be able to take very descent photos.
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how am i overthinking it?
in good light, my 2 year old htc incredible S would take more detailed pictures than those - like i said, even if you look at them full screen on an HD monitor, the quality is poor
but again, like i said - the light looks like it wasn't good, in which case yes they are pretty impressive, but without knowing the conditions they were taken in it is impossible to know
I think they are great for a phone! I would rather have better low light pictures than bigger images. They only thing I want HTC fix is exposure in both pictures and videos. It seems some conditions pictures get over/under exposed and in videos the exposure auto adjust is too slow.
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how am i overthinking it?
in good light, my 2 year old htc incredible S would take more detailed pictures than those - like i said, even if you look at them full screen on an HD monitor, the quality is poor
but again, like i said - the light looks like it wasn't good, in which case yes they are pretty impressive, but without knowing the conditions they were taken in it is impossible to know
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here's a photo i took very quickly on my incredible S - the detail is far greater than the marbles, for example.
yes, the light is very good in my photo, but the point im trying to make is that the htc photos aren't very good IMO unless you consider they were taken in very low light - but they didnt say they were.... and most people will probably click the full size image and think the same thing as me, and that is that they are really lacking in detail
in other words, as far as photos that "showcase" the overall quality of the One camera go, those ones are poor representations
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here's a photo i took very quickly on my incredible S - the detail is far greater than the marbles, for example.
yes, the light is very good in my photo, but the point im trying to make is that the htc photos aren't very good IMO unless you consider they were taken in very low light - but they didnt say they were.... and most people will probably click the full size image and think the same thing as me, and that is that they are really lacking in detail
in other words, as far as photos that "showcase" the overall quality of the One camera go, those ones are poor representations
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Most android phone will take a great picture like your example but thats because of the lighting is perfect. What matters is a phone will take a perfect picture In low lighting
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Andrew149 said:
Most android phone will take a great picture like your example but thats because of the lighting is perfect. What matters is a phone will take a perfect picture In low lighting
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totally agree
but HTC didn't say "here are some photos taken by professional photographers in very low light, look how great the colours are!"
to those that don't know any better, those are just "photos taken by professional photographers" - and to those people, they probably don't look very good.
i know they're relatively good, because i can see the lighting is poor - most of the people who saw HTCs post won't know that
You people are crazy of you don't think those pictures take with the one aren't good.
What is wrong with you? For one, its a phone camera, not a dlsr. If you want amazing pictures, then spend your hard earned money on that. Who knows, maybe you have a future as a professional photographer, lol!
And DJ, don't you have an HTC one? If so, you get quite defensive in the s4 forums, yet here you are in the One forums doing the same thing.
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The most important photo is actually the first One
HTC is using the fastest shutter time in the industry, if HTC went ahead and used long exposure times instead, the quality will be multiplied
but for a mobile device in your pocket this shutter speed is essential you can grab anything without worrying about blurring it (hint Lumia 920)
the fact that ZOE start buffering action before you even press the shutter is a testament how everyone is underestimating this ability
here is another example of the shutter speed (the high contrast is because I have auto enhanced it with my One X)
Those shots are sadly not real world as it is easy to see they have been taken with professional lighting rigs. (multiple light sources, none from the direction of the lense). They are impressive but I prefer real people's examples.
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You people are crazy of you don't think those pictures take with the one aren't good.
What is wrong with you? For one, its a phone camera, not a dlsr. If you want amazing pictures, then spend your hard earned money on that. Who knows, maybe you have a future as a professional photographer, lol!
And DJ, don't you have an HTC one? If so, you get quite defensive in the s4 forums, yet here you are in the One forums doing the same thing.
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Don't know what you mean by defensive.
The detail in the pictures is poor. I don't care what anyone says, I can see that with MY eyes. The colours in the pictures is good, I can see that with MY eyes. With my eyes I can also see that yes there is professional lighting in these photos, so it is stupid of HTC to provide these photos as a showcase to Joe Public - no one else will shoot in those conditions.
Yea, I'm about to get my One back, and I loved it while I had it, and will love it when I get it back; that doesn't stop me from being impartial with regards to the One / GS4 debate.
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Don't know what you mean by defensive.
The detail in the pictures is poor. I don't care what anyone says, I can see that with MY eyes. The colours in the pictures is good, I can see that with MY eyes. With my eyes I can also see that yes there is professional lighting in these photos, so it is stupid of HTC to provide these photos as a showcase to Joe Public - no one else will shoot in those conditions.
Yea, I'm about to get my One back, and I loved it while I had it, and will love it when I get it back; that doesn't stop me from being impartial with regards to the One / GS4 debate.
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You have extremely high standards for a camera on....a phone. Ultra pixel or not, it is still just a camera....on a phone.
Which IMO does quite well actually. I mean I don't think many of us on here are professional photographer's, so its in the end a regular persons opinion.
Everyone pretends to be an expert though....
And I am sorry you get your pants rustled pretty good in that huge thread you have going over there in the s4 thread. You basically back whatever you can in the One, yet somehow do opposite on this thread about the One.
I don't get it and have a hard time taking someone seriously when you are so wishy-washy.
Again, just my opinion, lol!
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JesseMT4G said:
You have extremely high standards for a camera on....a phone. Ultra pixel or not, it is still just a camera....on a phone.
Which IMO does quite well actually. I mean I don't think many of us on here are professional photographer's, so its in the end a regular persons opinion.
Everyone pretends to be an expert though....
And I am sorry you get your pants rustled pretty good in that huge thread you have going over there in the s4 thread. You basically back whatever you can in the One, yet somehow do opposite on this thread about the One.
I don't get it and have a hard time taking someone seriously when you are so wishy-washy.
Again, just my opinion, lol!
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What's hard to understand?
Some people over there make stupid claims about the One, and I am quick to set them straight. Likewise here some people are so blinded by fanboyism they can't admit there is anything to improve upon in the One.
Both types annoy me equally.
I don't know what you are trying to accuse me of here, being impartial? Lol... Although I will admit that yes it can be a rare sight on the forums...
Also please tell me at what point did I say the One wasn't a good camera?
I commented on those photos, stating that I didn't think they were a very good marketing tool, as personally I don't think they are overly good. Do you have a problem with that statement?
Really not sure what you're trying to accomplish here?
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I will say one thing.
HTC One will and it make pictures around 600kb - 1.3mb.
Those photos have 2.5MB (even 13mpx cameras with no comprassion hardly get this value).
So people, those photos are not fake, but also not HTC One photos.
Move on...
The declared megapixels of this camera are 4MP, the declared reason is bucking the megapixel race, the declared usage is social media, the promised compensation is the low MP are good low light performance which delivers as well as fast shutter speed
There are no surprises about the lack of detail
Its like agonizing that a certain car can only do its stated HP
I am planning to buy the galaxy s4 when it is available but wondering if whether there are better rumored/announced smartphones that will be released along with s4 or two to three months after the galaxy s4 release. since i'm not aware of any phones like that but i'm not well keep up with rumors/announcements of others. So tell me some.
Also I have seen some comparison with the camera of the sgs4 with the HTC one but the HTC one is not yet updated to the newest software that is said to be fix the camera problem. So do you know a thread/website that alraedy compares the camera of sgs4 to htc one with the one's updated camera?
thanks
kkrsrkrocks said:
Heyy... you could find exactly what you are looking for here.
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If you're looking for a hack piece that only shows examples of photos that show off the strengths of the GS4 and the weaknesses of the One. I'm not trying to say the One has a better camera, nor do I believe that to be the case. But if you look at the pictures that they chose to show... all of their comparisons are of the One blown up way past 100% to match the 13MP size of the GS4 shots. That's an absolutely valid comparison to make, but that is the only comparison they make. ALL of their shots except for one are long distance, landscape-style photos, where detail is everything. And the one photo that is not that kind of shot, they don't even let you view 100% scale, side by side with the GS4. They force their stupid zoom tool on you to once again emphasize detail. There is not a SINGLE night shot in their entire piece. The goal of that piece is to sell GS4's, plain and simple, nothing more, nothing less.
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If you're looking for a hack piece that only shows examples of photos that show off the strengths of the GS4 and the weaknesses of the One. I'm not trying to say the One has a better camera, nor do I believe that to be the case. But if you look at the pictures that they chose to show... all of their comparisons are of the One blown up way past 100% to match the 13MP size of the GS4 shots. That's an absolutely valid comparison to make, but that is the only comparison they make. ALL of their shots except for one are long distance, landscape-style photos, where detail is everything. And the one photo that is not that kind of shot, they don't even let you view 100% scale, side by side with the GS4. They force their stupid zoom tool on you to once again emphasize detail. There is not a SINGLE night shot in their entire piece. The goal of that piece is to sell GS4's, plain and simple, nothing more, nothing less.
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Haha
I think the way you protect HTC One and GS4 is so funny.
GSMArena has used this kind of camera test: The same scene, the same crop for years, even for very old phones like iPhone 3GS. They haven't changed/added/lessen anything, so it's not something like bias toward Samsung for more GS4 sold.
This is only the matter of accepting the fact.
kkrsrkrocks said:
Heyy... you could find exactly what you are looking for here.
Alternatively, you can find all about SGS4 Here. and manually compare it to HTC One.
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very detailed
hung2900 said:
Haha
I think the way you protect HTC One and GS4 is so funny.
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Protect? I'm being as unbiased and impartial as one can be. If you go through my posts, you'll see that I have gone back and forth numerous times on which phone I would buy.
GSMArena has used this kind of camera test: The same scene, the same crop for years, even for very old phones like iPhone 3GS. They haven't changed/added/lessen anything, so it's not something like bias toward Samsung for more GS4 sold.
This is only the matter of accepting the fact.
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I've never read anything from GSMArena in my life, prior to this, nor will I again in the future. There is absolutely no way that it can be disputed, though, that the way this was handled shows the strengths of the GS4 and the weaknesses of the One. They even admit as much:
Winner: Samsung Galaxy S4. It's pretty clear that things are going in favor of the Galaxy S4 here. It produces sharper photos with better colors and there's resolution to crop things out. The narrower FoV is not ideal but it's not a deal-breaker.
The HTC One lost this round, though to be fair it was never expected to win a head-on fight in good lighting conditions. Its photos are certainly good enough if you'll post them on Facebook or show them off on a TV, but don't come close to the samples produced with its competitor today.
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So they only admit that they are not 'being fair' in a footnote at the bottom of the page. If this is, as you say, how they always conduct these comparison reviews, then so be it. If that's the case then maybe they aren't biased, but simply always offer up shoddy reviews.
Thanks for answering. I am don't really like the HTC ONE that much. Any other phones rumors?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lng0004/sets/72157633487686583/
Very good looking photos, taken with the HTC One. Impressive what can be done with a little knowledge of lighting, and a bit of post editing.
Apparently all the editing was done with stock features or Avairy.
Great shot!:good:
Those are some awesome shots indeed. But I think there are a couple of these threads already that this could be merged with.
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sly101s said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lng0004/sets/72157633487686583/
Very good looking photos, taken with the HTC One. Impressive what can be done with a little knowledge of lighting, and a bit of post editing.
Apparently all the editing was done with stock features or Avairy.
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Stunning!
Downloading Aviary now
The content and artistic value is impressive. The quality of the images are not really that mpressive though. You can tell its been taken on a mobile phone.
Rubbish
mwatson said:
The content and artistic value is impressive. The quality of the images are not really that mpressive though. You can tell its been taken on a mobile phone.
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The only way to tell that these are taken on a mobile is if you knew before hand!
Great shots, that could have been taken with the majority of compact cameras
No shame in any of them!
Great shooting
Dal1970 said:
The only way to tell that these are taken on a mobile is if you knew before hand!
Great shots, that could have been taken with the majority of compact cameras
No shame in any of them!
Great shooting
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They way to tell is view them at their full size (in other words at 100%), its then VERY clear they were taken with a low MP phone cam. They aren't very sharp. Remember your monitor is lower resolution than the images, if you view them even full screen the reduction gives a sharpening effect, hides aliasing on lines, masks artefacts. The 'effects' applied also hide the Ones poor dynamic range.
They are very very well composed shots, and are great looking scenes, which is something the One does very well because it has a fast shutter and therefore little blur, but no they arent quality images from a technical standpoint. The problems with the One camera are still quite clear.
If you zoom in close on any shot you see the pixels - it is digital
I use a D7000 as my main camera and if you zoom in close enough is is pixelated
When you view these shots at a sensible size, there is nothing wrong with them. They will never blow up as large as my dSLR, but that is a different animal entirely.
the low light shots and indoor shot I took on my iPhone 4 are attrocious in comparison - took me ages to correct the colour casts and reduce the HUGE amount of noise
100% is not zoomed, its native. Its shortcomings are very evident at native resolution. I suspect those that don't notice are viewing on the phone or on a fairly small monitor. If thats the case, and you're happy, then fine.
Yes its great in low light, although some other phones manage quite well with HDR mode in low light, however in daylight the One is just a poor quality 4MP camera. Those images have done their best to hide it with great composition and effects, but its still evident.
One way to hide it a bit is to enlarge the picture in Photoshop, maybe to 16MP or more, then apply a smart sharpen of maybe 2.5 pixels and 75%, then drop back to 8MP. It cleans up a lot of the aliasing, artefacting and in effect interpolates a higher resolution.
Awesome shots welldone!
It always amazes me that some people expect a phone camera to match a DSLR.. i have both and yes the One isnt as good as my DSLR but it takes brilliant shots and is a whole lot easier to carry around in my pocket
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Awesome shots welldone!
It always amazes me that some people expect a phone camera to match a DSLR.. i have both and yes the One isnt as good as my DSLR but it takes brilliant shots and is a whole lot easier to carry around in my pocket
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No one expects it to match a DSLR, but to approach a 5 year old 5MP phone in daylight would be nice, and it just doesnt. This is why people are upset by the Ones camera. Its low light abilities are great, but its daylight abilities, especially moderate to long distance shots are very poor, even for 4 MP.
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The content and artistic value is impressive. The quality of the images are not really that mpressive though. You can tell its been taken on a mobile phone.
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This.
The same photographer could have made equally amazing photos with any other smartphone or crappy point and shoot.
The value of those photos come from their composition and lighting, not the image quality. Its the old argument of photographer vs camera.
But yes, very nice photos
Those are some great photos, is that Chinatown in Manhattan?
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No one expects it to match a DSLR, but to approach a 5 year old 5MP phone in daylight would be nice, and it just doesnt. This is why people are upset by the Ones camera. Its low light abilities are great, but its daylight abilities, especially moderate to long distance shots are very poor, even for 4 MP.
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Well, see... this is where I have a problem: I think the daylight abilities are quite good, but that it really sucks in low light.... For me, all the photos I take in low light (ex. a street corner at night, with lamp posts around) it turns the black into blue noise and it takes some time and a few shots to get a focused photot, even with all the blue in the picture...
Impressive pics imo
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We have a photo sharing thread already. The OP in this thread put up some specific shots and claimed they were "impressive". There's plenty to discuss there without opening it up to random new shots with generic captions
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NxNW said:
We have a photo sharing thread already. The OP in this thread put up some specific shots and claimed they were "impressive". There's plenty to discuss there without opening it up to random new shots with generic captions
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Sorry wrong thread... Will delete.
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Yeah if you just want to share you can always go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169626
Plenty of good shots in there..
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Incredible quality. One of the main reason why I choose One. I can probably say goodbye to my digital camera now.
Flattered you think my shots are impressive. Sure, I agree that the photographer makes the difference (;p) but the HTC one camera tech really helps. I've yet to take a photo in low light only to find it shaky later. Never. Of course, sometimes sharpness comes with higher noise level but better than a shaky image.
I feel like I'm using an old camera with fixed wide angle lens when shooting with the HTC One. HDR what? ;p
Hey everyone, I made a similar post while waiting for the 6P. Let's start off posting pictures of what we can find from reviews and then post your personal shots once the phones start rolling in.
more can be found here: http://phandroid.com/2016/10/04/google-pixel-photo-samples/
per source: It appears at least half of these photos were processed with Snapseed and VSCO.
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I'm guessing either that is a HDR+ oversight, meaning it was not utilized properly, or Google decided to keep contrast in this situation. Without being there to view the scene with my own eyes, I can't determine which photo is better (more accurate). Maybe keeping the shadows darker was truer to the scene, and again, produced sharp looking contrast. Or maybe HDR+ dropped the ball here - who knows?
I won't really judge until real reviews come out with post-release software.
I went for a wander at lunchtime to get some real world samples from the camera. Didn't have long so not exactly the best photography but it should give everyone a bit of an idea about the camera's real world performance.
EDIT: It seems the tapatalk upload destroys image quality, so here is a Google Photos link for the full resolution versions of the below, along with a couple of extra shots:
https://goo.gl/photos/fAsQ8YLqEijHWiU76
Wouldn't focus quite as close as I wanted despite clicking a lot in the closest flower but plenty of detail where it did decide to focus:
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The dog
what's the best way to upload an image? right now I'm just on XDA via chromium
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what's the best way to upload an image? right now I'm just on XDA via chromium
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Great photos
Does anyone know or can anyone test to see if adobe lightroom mobile allows taking photos in raw? OR another app to shoot in raw?
Very low light, smokey environment. Turned out much clearer than expected
Just saw this great shootout video from PCWorld. They compare the Pixel (XL in this case) to the S7, iPhone 7 Plus and V20. Def worth watching!
http://www.pcworld.com/video/70857/google-pixel-camera-shootout
Really love this camera. Everything is so well balanced
Pictures taking in my hometown Groningen in the Netherlands
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HDR+ only
I don't care what anybody says. This camera is dope. I like it better than my Samsung Galaxy S7 camera.
Happy Halloween!
A few snaps...
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I did some late night shoots in the city
I see that there is a lot of quality lost by posting this here.... [emoji52]
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Random sunset time comparison with the 6P
Nexus first then Pixel. I believe the result on the nexus is better. Even though it can be harder to capture that shot and even though it takes longer to shoot, process and open the app. The nexus also has terrible stabilisation, has trouble autofocussing and fails to get close up in macros.
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Nexus first then Pixel. I believe the result on the nexus is better. Even though it can be harder to capture that shot and even though it takes longer to shoot, process and open the app. The nexus also has terrible stabilisation, has trouble autofocussing and fails to get close up in macros.
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I hardly see any difference....
I prefer the pixel slightly,
And the things you mentioned are the difference
I can't download them at full resolution so it's hard to say this way which one is clearly better.
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I hardly see any difference....
I prefer the pixel slightly,
And the things you mentioned are the difference
I can't download them at full resolution so it's hard to say this way which one is clearly better.
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Yeah I uploaded them on tinypic and I thought they embed them in the thread with a click function to take it to their site for full resolution. I could swear it used to do that. I need another solution.
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