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Surfing the web, I noticed that Widcomm just launched a new BT development kit for the PPC/Phone Edition (That's the one we have!).
You can find information here:
http://www.widcomm.com/Products/bluetooth_comm_software_btce.asp
This is what they got to say about it:
NEW!
BT-PPC/Phone Edition leverages current BTW-CE/PPC features and includes the following profiles (GAP, SDP, SPP, GOEP, OPP, FTP, SYNC, DUN, HSP, HFP & PAN).
Key features of this product:
Addition of WAN connectivity features
Implement cellular connectivity
Manage audio traffic routing to headset
Display radio signal strength (RSSI) on screen
Implement power management scheme (enable WAN connectivity while PPC is off/sleep)
Initial release OMAP platform
I am extremely interested to know if anyone knows where to find an installable app for our XDA's. The fact that they say that an initial release is only for the OMAP platform worries me slightly, because I think that only the orginal XDA was based on that.
Best regards,
Bastian
I do not believe Widcomm sells directly to end users. They sell to OEM's to include in their product. The product can't be just installed. It has to be tailored for each device individually by the OEM. So, HTC would have to package the software into one of their ROM updates. However, since licenses for the Widcomm BT stack cost money, I wouldn't hold my breath expecting HTC to foot the bill to give us a good BT software stack. I don't know for sure, but its a reasonable guess.
Besides, the Widcomm BT stack has been around for a while. There wasn't a specific PPCPE as there appears to be now, but the current version would have worked as well as the Microsoft stack that HTC uses now. If they didn't get Widcomm then, I wouldn't expect them to add it now. May for the XDA III
Hope....
Let's hope that HTC will do this in the future, because the current BT implementation sucks.
-Bastian
I think this isthe one for the new iAPQ h6300... As of the manual h6300 has the same BT Manager of other iPAQ devices but with some additional headset Profile, nothing about Handsfree Profile till now...
Exclamation Arrow Broadcom Corporation announced the Widcomm BTW 4.0, a new release of its Bluetooth software, with enhanced security and adding advanced audio/video (A/V) capabilities to the industry's most widely adopted Bluetooth software. The new software was tested and qualified for native support and seamless operation with Mcft's recently announced Service Pack 2 upgrade for the Windows XP operating system (Windows XP SP2).
Wireless, high quality stereo audio headsets and speakers enabled by the new WIDCOMM BTW (Bluetooth for Windows) 4.0 software is a new application expected to drive widespread Bluetooth adoption for consumers over the coming years. A/V enhancements built into BTW 4.0 software will bring a new level of audio quality to wireless headsets, enabling a generation of products capable of delivering CD-like stereo sound without the need for wires. The same A/V Bluetooth profile support can be expected to appear in upcoming consumer electronics products like MP3 players, cellular phones, PDAs, and other appliances.
The company sees wireless headsets or speakers enabled with this technology streaming high quality sound while also performing remote control functions such as pausing or stopping play, and selecting tracks. In addition, consumers can utilise wireless speakers, enabling enhanced sound and audio distribution for DVD and CD playback.
Broadcom's WIDCOMM BTW 4.0 incorporates the latest software "profiles," which ensure a common set of features between two Bluetooth devices. Bluetooth profiles are developed and standardized through the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG). BTW 4.0 features many of the latest profiles, which provide advanced multimedia capabilities including:
GAVDP -- Generic Audio Video Distribution Profile
A2DP -- Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
AVRCP -- Audio Video Remote Control Profile
BTW 4.0 also supports the Basic Imaging Profile, which provides the ability to "push" and "pull" images wirelessly between a mobile phone or digital camera and a PC.
"BTW 4.0 answers two distinct needs in the Bluetooth space: enhanced security, and the ability to effectively stream high-quality audio to wireless headphones or speakers. It is changing the dynamics of how consumers will experience multimedia content on their PCs," said Ron Wong, Senior Product Line Manager for Broadcom's Bluetooth software products. "Broadcom's unique ability to design and deliver all the critical technology pieces for next-generation wireless electronic devices enables our partners to bring products to market quickly and with features that hold great appeal for consumer markets."
PC OEMs are already shipping Bluetooth in a large number of their commercial notebook PCs and are expecting continuous growth and accelerated adoption into 2005. With this rapid adoption, large enterprises have expressed growing concerns over security and software virus spreads. The new WIDCOMM BTW4.0 software incorporates enhanced security capability to help address these concerns
The software is currently shipping to Broadcom's early access partners...and is available free of charge to all members exclusively
Download:
http://my.so-net.net.tw/dean8888/Widcomm_BTW 4.0.1.700.rar
Thank soneone upload
thanks for sharing...
a question for ya... have ya tried the software yourself? is it work good with no problems?
i tried it and installed fine but now my bluetooth isn't working when i try to start the BT i get this error "Your Bluetooth Software License doesn't include use with this bluetooth device. [6] and i have a billionton 100m bluetooth dongle
Somehow I'm doubtful that this really will do waht I'm looking for, has anybody tried it to get audio sent from the unit to their BT headset with this software?
BT 4.0 "patch"
You also need the attached to get the Widcom to work. Follow instructions in #2 folder.
I've got the same problem
What ya mean with folder #2 ??
Edit Aaah now theres a file
thanks man.. all working now..
Sorry forgot patch
after installing the Widcomm 4.0.1.700 software i can't set my computer as a handsfree device on my O2 mini (the voice gateway seems not to work too)...
both of them used to work.
anyone else has this problem? :?
BTW: how can i transfer files throw this bt software to my mini?
everytime i choose filetransfer it says the device doesnt support it.
even with MICROSOFT drivers i managed to send files to the device :shock:
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Sorry forgot patch
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Where Can I get the patch I have downloaded the rar file you have posted but do not see #2 Folder ??? PLease help
It works on XDAII,.. I am making a how to post now. The experts say it is from an XDAII and for an XDAII.. But who knows!!! Try it. :shock:
Churchill said:
Knot said:
Sorry forgot patch
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Where Can I get the patch I have downloaded the rar file you have posted but do not see #2 Folder ??? PLease help
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=3550
Sorry for a stupid question, but this bluetooth software is for the Magician or for the Windows XP?
718 said:
Sorry for a stupid question, but this bluetooth software is for the Magician or for the Windows XP?
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It's for Window PC
I replaced the files from your .rar dewild1 but i get the same message when i'm trying to "start using bluetooth" : " Your bluetooth software license does not include use with this Bluetooth device". Is something that i can do to make them work? I had the "rom version 2.06.00WWE" and the "radio version 1.18.00" and i can't syncronize my xda to activesync via bluetooth, and i hoped that this driver will help me.
Can anyone tell me if there is a technical reason Bluetooth SAP/rSAP cannot be delivered on the Windows Phone 7 platform, or are the just being lazy about delivering it??
So... no reply cause nobody knows or no reply cause I'm being a n00b and this is answered elsewhere? Or something worse?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rsap+windows+phone+7
Just follow the first link "Frage zu SAP..." (german)
So far only these BT profiles are implemented:
PBAP — Phone Book Access Profile
A2DP — Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
HSP — Headset Profile
HFP — Hands-Free Profile
AVRCP — A/V Remote Control Profile
Anything else would be speculation, because Mango BT updates known so far:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-mango-bluetooth-stack-updated-but-not-much/
esackbauer said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rsap+windows+phone+7
Just follow the first link "Frage zu SAP..." (german)
So far only these BT profiles are implemented:
PBAP — Phone Book Access Profile
A2DP — Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
HSP — Headset Profile
HFP — Hands-Free Profile
AVRCP — A/V Remote Control Profile
Anything else would be speculation, because Mango BT updates known so far:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-mango-bluetooth-stack-updated-but-not-much/
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Thanks - just saw that qualified listing and was a little disappointed. I checked the one for Apple iOS (listed as software version 4.1 and 4.2) and it also doesn't mention SAP or rSAP, but I know it does support those profiles, so I'm wondering whether I am just reading it wrong.
The differences are that iOS has:
RFCOMM
Bluetooth Network Encapsulation Protocol
Personal Area Networking Profile
HID
Interop Test Spec
Which one of these is linked to SAP/rSAP?
How do you "know" that iPhone supports rSAP? It does not, not even 4.3:
http://iamtim.de/2011/05/das-iphone-und-das-sim-access-profil-sap-oder-rsap/
None of these profiles you listed is rSAP (or SAP, SIM), as written here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
esackbauer said:
How do you "know" that iPhone supports rSAP? It does not, not even 4.3:
http://iamtim.de/2011/05/das-iphone-und-das-sim-access-profil-sap-oder-rsap/
None of these profiles you listed is rSAP (or SAP, SIM), as written here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
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Well I suppose to be clear I don't "know", I just "think". The reason I "think" is because it communicates with my car, that says it "requires" SIM Access Profile, whereas my phone REFUSES to communicate with my car.
Additional detail: the car actually supports 2 bluetooth "modes": Headphone mode and SIM Access mode. If I have the car initiate the bluetooth connection it will use the remote SIM mode, and if the phone initiates the connection it will use the "headphones" mode.
A Nokia N97 works in both directions. As does the iPhone 3 and 4. My Samsung Omnia 7 won't do either.
Maybe Mango will be a solution, because it updates the Headset and Hands-free profiles.
"New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. "
Also there comes PBA (Phonebook Access profile), which is basically the same as SAP, but it uses the radio of the phone, instead the radio inbuilt to the car kit.
PBA and your interpretation of it being very similar to SAP sounds quite interesting yet it will most likely not be recognized by SAP-only car-kits like the older VW premium handsfree-boxes. I for instance refrain from switching to any other OS than windows Mobile simply because i need my phone working with the car kit and i am not going to buy a new car because my phone doesnt support the current.
Well, anyhow. I was going to say, that if the PBA doesn't support some kinda fake-SAp mode (pretend to be sap or so) it will most likely not help anyone with sap-only car kits. not matter how much it is similar to sap.
sorry to say this.
Sneakyghost said:
I for instance refrain from switching to any other OS than windows Mobile simply because i need my phone working with the car kit and i am not going to buy a new car because my phone doesnt support the current.
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While i have both versions of Windows OS and yes the 6.x suported rSAP, the new WP7 does not. If you want a new phone that supports rSAP then Android fills the bill. Microsoft really dropped the ball by not supporting rSAP. Like you, have a VW-based phone system and without rSAP support the current handsfree phone protocols in WP7 is basically worthless.
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Just updated my phone to Mango, and annoyingly neither the headphone mode or reomte SIM modes work. This is a deal-breaker for me.
While I was quite enjoying the phone I am now going to switch to a Galaxy SII which works reliably in both directions, and connects properly to my WiFi as well. A real shame, but I can't imagine another WP update will be coming too soon and I don't have any patience left.
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Maybe Mango will be a solution, because it updates the Headset and Hands-free profiles.
"New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. "
Also there comes PBA (Phonebook Access profile), which is basically the same as SAP, but it uses the radio of the phone, instead the radio inbuilt to the car kit.
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Since update my Omnia 7 to Mango, I get a lot of "BT connection error" on my display car.
all working here.
car radio is a Kenwood.
Finally now the phone transmits the name of the song playing to the headunit! like windows mobile.
Voice comands thru the Headunit work amazing too.The other day i received an sms while driving, voice comand told me that there was a new sms from Ken,then it ask me if i wanted it read out loud! I said yes and it did, at the end it ask me if i want it to reply to.
Also this is the only phone that actually auto connects to the car stereo,all my android devices need to be reconnected manually.
Funny thing all of this was set up by just pairing the device with the headunit.
Well my "head unit" is integrated into the dash - it's a Porsche touch screen system called PCM (which I think, lamely, stands for Porsche Control Module). I have anecdotal evidence that other WP7 models will connect which makes me think it may actually be the Samsung Omnia 7 itself and not WP7 per se.
What sux is that my Samsung Galaxy S2 works perfectly and my wife's iPhone4 works perfectly. So it isn't the car.
...I really haven't got the patience to wait for the Win8 update and keep using headphones for the next year!
some news here?
I just realized a second ago that the Dell Venue (not Pro) supports 802.11n.
After poking though the driver infobits for each device:
Devices with Broadcom BCM4325:
Streak 5
Devices with Broadcom BCM4329:
Streak 7
Streak 10
Streak Pro
Venue
Venue Pro
Broadcom BCM4325:
Wireless 802.11 a/b/g
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
FM Radio (transmit and recieve)
Broadcom BCM4329:
Wireless 802.11 a/b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
FM Radio (transmit and recieve)
For the android devices: they all support b/g/n, but do not support fm radio (there is no standard method for interfacing with fm in android)
For the WP7 devices: they only support b/g, but support fm radio recieving (as WP7 includes a standarized method for interfacing with it)
The real question is why the VP is missing wireless N support, the S7, V and VP are all late 2nd gen dell devices and thus carry the BCM4329.
The drivers on 219/33 has references to the 4329, the question is why n is missing as there shouldnt be anything hardware related that should be limiting it.
I've put my AP on 802.11n / 2.4 GHz / WPA2-PSK/AES mode and all my devices connect except for my S5 and VP.
(Note: none of the listed BCM4325/9 devices listed above support 802.11a as they do not have the 5 GHz band support, for the same reason they dont support 802.11n over 5 GHz)
I don't know the answer to this. However, here are a couple of educated guesses:
1) It's possible the wireless n wasn't stable. The DVP shipped with a firmware issue. "If you downloaded a lot of data via Wi-Fi (like a game or other Marketpace app, or even a YouTube video) while the phone was trying to write to the user memory storage location, you sometimes see lockups due to a DMA conflict." (Source). The instability problems could have been more severe with wireless n, which has faster data speeds. i.e. feature dropped before release as not stable.
2) I believe the writing of the DVP firmware was outsourced. Maybe Dell didn't want to pay extra for wireless n support.
I know the package is the Azurewave AW-NH665 but there's no data sheet published for that. I'm hoping it's got at least a BCM4330 in it. Also hoping for BlueTooth 3.0.
someone who has one check your system/etc/nvram_nh665.txt
it should have info on the wifi chip.
Thanks.
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Well, I can tell from the kernel it uses BCM4330 chipset. That should mean b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0+HS, and FM...
BCM4330.
I'm hoping to connect an FM antenna. See my sig.
AzureWave does other Broadcom modules too.
I don't have one but a dump shows:
bin/brcm_patchram_plus
etc/firmware/bcm4330.hcd
etc/nvram.txt:
Azurewave Release 2011/12/29
# NH665 bgn+BT+FM
manfid=0x2d0
prodid=0x0552
vendid=0x14e4
devid=0x4360
boardtype=0x0552
boardrev=0x11
# this design has 2.4GHz SP3T switch
boardflags=0x00081200
nocrc=1
xtalfreq=37400
boardnum=22
#macaddr=00:11:22:33:44:55
#nvram_override=1
cckdigfilttype=20 #20~26
ag0=255
aa2g=3
ccode=XY
regrev=4
#pa0b0=0x13e1
#pa0b1=0xfdab
#pa0b2=0xff66
rssismf2g=0xa
rssismc2g=0x3
rssisav2g=0x7
maxp2ga0=0x46
sromrev=3
#il0macaddr=00:11:22:33:44:55
wl0id=0x431b
cckPwrOffset=5
#ofdmdigfilttype2g=4
ofdm2gpo=0x44444444
mcs2gpo0=0x6666
mcs2gpo1=0x6666
swctrlmap_2g=0x44844484,0x4a8a4282,0x42824282,0x818a82,0x1ff
rfreg033=0x19
rfreg033_cck=0x1f
dacrate2g=160
txalpfbyp2g=1
bphyscale=17
cckPwrIdxCorr=-15
pacalidx2g=45
txgaintbl=1
muxenab=0x10
#triso2g=9
mikereidis said:
BCM4330.
I'm hoping to connect an FM antenna. See my sig.
AzureWave does other Broadcom modules too.
I don't have one but a dump shows:
bin/brcm_patchram_plus
etc/firmware/bcm4330.hcd
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Nice, just checked out your radio app. Would be very cool to get that working on the N7. Interestingly I noticed that although that firmware is present, the kernel is actually configured to use:
/system/vendor/firmware/fw_bcmdhd.bin
Not sure exactly what the implications are of that yet.
There are 3 identical files, size 209,175 bytes, and they are for the WiFi core on the chip. Bluetooth and FM share a seperate core.
fw_bcmdhd_apsta.bin
fw_bcmdhd.bin
fw_bcmdhd_p2p.bin
brcm_patchram_plus is a Broadcom proprietary replacement for hciattach and it loads the bcm4330.hcd file. I'm 100% sure because my FM app can do the same as brcm_patchram_plus.
The top of the HCD file contains: "AZW Module665 BCM4330B1 37.4 MHz Class 1.5 ExtLNA"
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There is not a single, easily available non-obscure Android tablet over 5" which supports FM. So if possible, even if it requires some hardware mods, the popularity of Nexus 7 will make it compelling for the combination of Android tablet and FM.
Further, FM transmit on Android is virtually unheard of. With access to the transmit antenna pins, this might be possible. There are LOTS of people who don't care about receive, but want transmit to their car stereo.
I expect to see a good number of hardware hackers looking to use the Nexus 7 as a built-in car/entertainment device.