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Guys and Gals -
First off, I had a read through and I'm glad for you all that it looks like you might get a working camera with the 2.1 leak. Congratulations to whomever figured it out.
Now on to the not so good news. This morning I received an email from the developer of a popular market application. It seems that someone has put out a ROM full of stolen software, and associated my name with it, as they took the boot image from one of my ROMS and called it their own. This developer and I have squared things away, so no harm no foul on my end.
It does leave me in a dilemma. Rather than have my name tossed in to a mix like this again, I've decided that I'm finished developing for the Hero. Enjoy the work, I won't take it down, and if I can get Google Earth and Nexus one wallpapers working a bit better (yes I have it loading and running, but it locks the system up after 30 seconds or so) I'll pass that fix to the few people here who have helped out so that they can package it up in any way they like.
The person responsible (and I won't name names - they know who they are, and the work they put out with my name attached isn't hard to find) has really soured me. I have been an open source developer for almost 20 years, and am very happy that the carrier I use for cellular service finally released a (mostly) open source operating system for me to play with. The way I see it this leaves me with two choices:
1. - Stop releasing work that others can use in any way they like
2. - Stop developing altogether for the Hero.
I chose number 2. There is already enough closed development and a "I'm first" mindset. That also goes against everything I believe in, so it's not an option. Bundling my name with software piracy and IP theft is not an option either. I will not let this happen again.
Keep the flames and ignorant comments to yourself please. I've thought about this all day, and this is my decision. I'll always be available to help others in any way I can, but I won't be publishing any more work. Rather then wasting time and energy to tell me how wrong I am, please use that effort to congratulate the individual who has placed me in this position. Sorry, but it is what it is.
Jerry.
03/06/2010
20:52
Thanks for all your help and support.
drink water move on...
You can't let one person mess something up for everyone else...That's not right.
please name the rom, that way some of us can boycott that rom..
shouldn't let this one person stop you from doing what you love to do though...
gbhil ..you've done a great job with the kernel + hack ..your work is very respected around here..do not go...
Gbhil didnt mention it. Dont know if he will.
oh damn that sucks im digging your roms i hate to see you go !
id love to know the rom that your talking about
i hope change your mind and stick around
well chances are he will wont be changing his mind any time soon well lets look at the roms there are
flipz-him and cghil have done alot of work together
theres
darch- who gbhil has helped out a bit and he doenst have alot of software on there thats not allowed
Aloysius 1.0 ROM - dont know alot about this rom anyone know about this rom.
[ROM] Souffle 1.2- same as above
and there can be more roms else were but those what i have seen here
not trying to get flamed here but who knows im trying to figure this out like you guys
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well chances are he will wont be changing his mind any time soon well lets look at the roms there are
flipz-him and cghil have done alot of work together
theres
darch- who gbhil has helped out a bit and he doenst have alot of software on there thats not allowed
Aloysius 1.0 ROM - dont know alot about this rom anyone know about this rom.
[ROM] Souffle 1.2- same as above
and there can be more roms else were but those what i have seen here
not trying to get flamed here but who knows im trying to figure this out like you guys
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Don't forget BIKCMP with the Pancake rom, but he seems to be respectable too IMO. I don't think I've seen a rom yet that doesn't incorporate at the least Gbhils custom memory killer kernel.
Thanks for your work!
Aaaaand ill bite my tongue regarding badmouthery. Jerkasses ruin everything !
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Don't forget Pancake. In fact I don't think I've seen a rom yet that doesn't incorporate at the least his custom memory killer kernel.
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yeah they all do but who uses his boot screen is the question so if we can pin point that we can go from there i know flipz has his own, and darch did a custom one any one know gumbos boot screen
yea but most if not all of them are pretty much software free
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well chances are he will wont be changing his mind any time soon well lets look at the roms there are
flipz-him and cghil have done alot of work together
theres
darch- who gbhil has helped out a bit and he doenst have alot of software on there thats not allowed
Aloysius 1.0 ROM - dont know alot about this rom anyone know about this rom.
[ROM] Souffle 1.2- same as above
and there can be more roms else were but those what i have seen here
not trying to get flamed here but who knows im trying to figure this out like you guys
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don't forget about the pancake rom that's based off of gb's kernel. btw thanks for your hard work, sad to see you go.
Thank you
Well, first lets thank gbhil for his effort, time, and work that he's put into helping us develop.
His guidance has helped almost every project associated with the CDMA Hero.
You will be missed.
That being said, let us not take this as setback. Use it as inspiration to get your own hands dirty. There's no better time than now to learn the trade.
And please, don't go on a witchhunt to attempt to bring this person to "justice." It puts the entire community into a bad light, something that a lot of us don't want.
HEY GBHIL dont leave f00, ur roms rox my sox in a box of rox. i was using flipz old 2.1 rom (before droid eris leak) and then i switched to ur droid eris leak remake or w/e and i was like AMAGADZ its so 1337 and fast. it's almost like the hero isnt a crappy slow 524mhz processor with ur rom. let us know the dev's ip who put the pirated stuff up so we can pwnz his comput0r with 1337 hax0rz
Decad3nce said:
Well, first lets thank gbhil for his effort, time, and work that he's put into helping us develop.
His guidance has helped almost every project associated with the CDMA Hero.
You will be missed.
That being said, let us not take this as setback. Use it as inspiration to get your own hands dirty. There's no better time than now to learn the trade.
And please, don't go on a witchhunt to attempt to bring this person to "justice." It puts the entire community into a bad light, something that a lot of us don't want.
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from what i have learned here ppc and android central i have started tweaking roms to my liking i will soon start to learn how to build a rom of from leaked dumps
He'll def be missed.
Is GDE a paid app?
Aloysius 1.0 ROM comes with GDE, a paid market app........... It uses gbhils kernel
I apperciated your work gbhil, and I understand your postion
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yeah they all do but who uses his boot screen is the question so if we can pin point that we can go from there i know flipz has his own, and darch did a custom one any one know gumbos boot screen
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I think when he says boot image he might mean the actual boot.img of his roms. That has to be modified for his kernel to work in the first place, so everything out there incorporating his work has in some way used it.
auxny said:
HEY GBHIL dont leave f00, ur roms rox my sox in a box of rox. i was using flipz old 2.1 rom (before droid eris leak) and then i switched to ur droid eris leak remake or w/e and i was like AMAGADZ its so 1337 and fast. it's almost like the hero isnt a crappy slow 524mhz processor with ur rom. let us know the dev's ip who put the pirated stuff up so we can pwnz his comput0r with 1337 hax0rz
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can you speak english please.
I'm speaking the interwebz version of english, thank you very much
Well at least to a tmobile tab?
Smh...wrong section
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It's still a legitimate question.
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Contrary to common sense. And making up it's own rules about the English language, XDA will want this question about development moves to General and out of development.
see my link in general about team whiskey.
Whatd be so amazing about a Nexus S rom? New look? A (probably) shoddy Gingerbread port? Just make your own theme and/or wait for our own Gingerbread to roll out.
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Whatd be so amazing about a Nexus S rom? New look? A (probably) shoddy Gingerbread port? Just make your own theme and/or wait for our own Gingerbread to roll out.
Sent from my GT-P1000
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You know you only got fro-yo because it came pre-installed. NONE of the Galaxy S phones in the USA got OFFICIAL fro-yo.
I'll say gingerbread will roll out when honeycomb is released.
Important is ext4 AND RAW GB
It looks like Samsung finally figured out Android for SGS (JPY is very smooth), which should probably mean that next updates for Galaxy Tab (2.2.1, 2.3 or even 3.0) will be pretty good (fingers crossed anyways....).
I don't think a 2.3 port from Nexus S is too important (it would probably require a lot of work, and it doesn't look like the development section of the GT is all that active compared to for instance SGS) - unless the 2.3 upgrade drags out for ever.
Theres a team of devs working on a port over in the SGS forums and i believe one of the sgtab devs has joined in the work they are doing.
As far as an official release is concerned i believe we would be looking inyo 2nd quarter of 2011 before anything comes through. Still waiting for a 2.2.1 update as my sgs flies now on JPY
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ianandamy said:
Important is ext4 AND RAW GB
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Ext4? I can only assume you want more storage space? 16gb not quite enough?
Not sure I understand what 'RAW GB' is. Maybe you mean Gingerbread? If so, wait for it to be made specifically for the Tab.
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Ext4? I can only assume you want more storage space? 16gb not quite enough?
Not sure I understand what 'RAW GB' is. Maybe you mean Gingerbread? If so, wait for it to be made specifically for the Tab.
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I think that's the point... When Samsung does one specially for the Tab it'll be full of Samsung crapware... A naked Android version would be really nice.
Then compile one from the AOSP Source and dont wait for the devs to do the work! U need to try and error, thats how development works! Dont be lazy and wait for a dev to do it, simply read some articles or guides how to compile from a source, and then get going! Thats what im doing!
Ext4 is the new file system used on tge nexus that makes it blazing fast
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I think that's the point... When Samsung does one specially for the Tab it'll be full of Samsung crapware... A naked Android version would be really nice.
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We have root and adb/root explorer. Delete what you want.
Just wait till you've crammed it full of memory eating apps. All we need is an oc kernel and were sorted.
Sent from zombie infested Gingerbread
Flash Koush's recovery, it's called gingerbread recovery for a reason (as stared in the tread), it converts the important partitions to ext4 from RFS.
You could also start helping get AOSP code working for the Tab too, which is kinda necessary before you just compile it. None of these things are easy, the more people we have contributing to the cause, the less time it will take. The more people just ask for it the more clutter we have in the forums + time answering these questions the longer it takes to do anything.
Yes I know technically you asked if there was any chance, simple answer- I doubt any dev will port a Nexus S ROM, it would be just as easy/hard to build up AOSP to work on it. Porting Nesus S to say, the Galaxy S is quite a bit easier (and that's no small feat!) due to similar screen resolution, etc. Also the number of people willing and eager to do the hard work on say the i900 is maybe 5-10x the number of people working on anything aftermarket on the tab.
So, grab you Tab, read up on android, find an area you're good at and enjoy doing, AND LETS GET HACKING and stop asking!
It's much fun more fun learning something new apposed to following some instructions, trust me.
Great post, btw i am planning on working with this right now if there is a group of people also working on this could you please point me in the right direction so i may be of assistance
Boushh said:
Flash Koush's recovery, it's called gingerbread recovery for a reason (as stared in the tread), it converts the important partitions to ext4 from RFS.
You could also start helping get AOSP code working for the Tab too, which is kinda necessary before you just compile it. None of these things are easy, the more people we have contributing to the cause, the less time it will take. The more people just ask for it the more clutter we have in the forums + time answering these questions the longer it takes to do anything.
Yes I know technically you asked if there was any chance, simple answer- I doubt any dev will port a Nexus S ROM, it would be just as easy/hard to build up AOSP to work on it. Porting Nesus S to say, the Galaxy S is quite a bit easier (and that's no small feat!) due to similar screen resolution, etc. Also the number of people willing and eager to do the hard work on say the i900 is maybe 5-10x the number of people working on anything aftermarket on the tab.
So, grab you Tab, read up on android, find an area you're good at and enjoy doing, AND LETS GET HACKING and stop asking!
It's much fun more fun learning something new apposed to following some instructions, trust me.
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where is his recovery gingerbread files your talking about didnt see anything about that in there can you link it so I can find it/
ianandamy said:
where is his recovery gingerbread files your talking about didnt see anything about that in there can you link it so I can find it/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870690
I dont know if anyone cares or not but I believe the more people gets on in this the better and we also get to achieve android faster. I wonder if their are any devs on XDA that wants the android system dump from off the touchpad. Hopefully we can put this to good use. Apprently people from all over are dumping and those few people wasnt the only ones.
I DID NOT DUMP THIS ROM!!! I FOUND IT ON THE NET!! IM ONLY POSTING IT BECAUSE I DONT SEE IT HERE. I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THIS!
Otherwise ENJOY
NEW DUMP:http://www.multiupload.com/BO2JSPTVB0
BTW this is a froyo dump
*UPDATED NEW DUMP LINK
Hope this is real. Would probably be a nice jump-start.
It is real.. sad part it I cant do anything with it.. but I wanna learn how to.
I'm downloading it now, we'll see what I can do with it. I've silently been compiling Dalvik and Chrome OS for the TouchPad and have a decent amount of experience with Assembly, cross-compiling, Java, etc. Let's get this **** done.
I guess there is some stupid bounty and everyone wants to be selfish and aim for the money. So it would be nice to get groups all over without other people yelling and trying to shut others down.
While pretty, this is utterly useless. It seems to have some userspace drivers like Wifi (woot) but it's missing the boot.img which contains the kernel. The hard part about porting Android is compiling the kernel, and this depressingly doesn't have it. All this is is a more helpful version of arm-linux-androideabi- compiled system, which is pretty normal. At least IMHO :\ I'd love to be told otherwise, though.
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While pretty, this is utterly useless. It seems to have some userspace drivers like Wifi (woot) but it's missing the boot.img which contains the kernel. The hard part about porting Android is compiling the kernel, and this depressingly doesn't have it. All this is is a more helpful version of arm-linux-androideabi- compiled system, which is pretty normal. At least IMHO :\ I'd love to be told otherwise, though.
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Did you check the update with the images... is that any good?
Metalshadowx2 said:
Did you check the update with the images... is that any good?
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Ah, no I did not! Downloading now, will report back soon!
Smith7018 said:
Ah, no I did not! Downloading now, will report back soon!
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ok thanks for helping out. I been scanning the net so any new updates ill post here.
Alright, I can't look much more right now, but what I can tell you is that this dump has the boot.img (8.img), the system.img and the user data.img (either 12 or 13.img). It may also have a modem (?) of some sort, I've never seen the files before but looking at them, they appear to be the modem to the Evo 3D. That makes this a little...... odd?
i think the evo 3d and sensaton have the same processor as the touchpad wonder if that have something to do with what you seeing
Smith7018 said:
Alright, I can't look much more right now, but what I can tell you is that this dump has the boot.img (8.img), the system.img and the user data.img (either 12 or 13.img). It may also have a modem (?) of some sort, I've never seen the files before but looking at them, they appear to be the modem to the Evo 3D. That makes this a little...... odd?
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you reckon? Any more developments?
moxdown said:
you reckon? Any more developments?
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We dont have anyone else looking into besides Smith so no but im thankful for what hes doing.
Well it looks like Mr. Smith is the big swinging **** in the room. Since I don't know jack crap about building these ROMs I will say Thank you Sir, Looking forward to the outcome of this!!!
Thank you for posting this here, OP.
Well, I work 9-5 at a computer company so I do have to get some work done I have a good amount of reverse engineering history, programming, and hacking around history, so this is pretty fun for me.
Some random observations:
This IS from Qualcomm, there are a lot of files that mention it and even two apk's that are by them.
HP obviously had a hand in this because the device is called Topaz in the build.prop file, which was HP's codename for it.
I'll look more into it now
skantman69 said:
Well it looks like Mr. Smith is the big swinging **** in the room. Since I don't know jack crap about building these ROMs I will say Thank you Sir, Looking forward to the outcome of this!!!
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HAHAHAHA From the bottom of my heart, thank you "big swinging ****"!
Smith7018 said:
Well, I work 9-5 at a computer company so I do have to get some work done I have a good amount of reverse engineering history, programming, and hacking around history, so this is pretty fun for me.
Some random observations:
This IS from Qualcomm, there are a lot of files that mention it and even two apk's that are by them.
HP obviously had a hand in this because the device is called Topaz in the build.prop file, which was HP's codename for it.
I'll look more into it now
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12 is system, 13 is data, from what I have seen.
I've built a signed "custom ROM" but I'm not too sure what to do with it I'll have to look into how Doctor'ing works. Anyone know the probability of bricking the device with it?
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I've built a signed "custom ROM" but I'm not too sure what to do with it I'll have to look into how Doctor'ing works. Anyone know the probability of bricking the device with it?
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What do you mean you've built a signed custom rom ?
We need to try get it in a format for webos doctor. Think we need to use that tool to flash
Went ics to my touch ? Or ivent port
edgarttr said:
Went ics to my touch ? Or ivent port
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I'm not sure what you are asking for...
Android/Google hasn't released the Source Code yet. So no developer has it. as of right now you can use a SDK port but many of the main features aren't working.
when they goin to port ics in to my touch?
the nexus s is runnig ics all ready
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the nexus s is runnig ics all ready
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I don't care what the Nexus S is running. We don't own Nexus S phones. Google has not released the source code for Android 4.0 yet. So no developer has it in their hands. EVERYTHING that is out there is a build from the SDK, so there will be flaws.
for a week or two there was a SDK port floating around here on XDA. the thread has been removed due to instability (or some other TOS)... but here is proof of my statement. http://omgdroid.com/2011/10/25/ice-cream-sandwich-4-0-1-sdk-port-mytouch-4g/
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the nexus s is runnig ics all ready
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no need to state the obvious...
who cares? be patient buddy.
Im itching to try and port ICS, but an SDK port isn't what you want to work with if it can be avoided.
Title is quite confusing, I don't know is your inquiring about when ICS went to the MT4G or something else.
If you really want to use an SDK you can A) port it yourself B)Buy a nexus C)Wait for source D)use ICS theme & launcher
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I don't care what the Nexus S is running. We don't own Nexus S phones. Google has not released the source code for Android 4.0 yet. So no developer has it in their hands. EVERYTHING that is out there is a build from the SDK, so there will be flaws.
for a week or two there was a SDK port floating around here on XDA. the thread has been removed due to instability (or some other TOS)... but here is proof of my statement. http://omgdroid.com/2011/10/25/ice-cream-sandwich-4-0-1-sdk-port-mytouch-4g/
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As far as I know, that build never made it past boot looping. I don't think the "dev" even had a MT4G, so there was no way he could get it working. He had similar posts for several devices for which he was attempting to get working ICS.
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As far as I know, that build never made it past boot looping. I don't think the "dev" even had a MT4G, so there was no way he could get it working. He had similar posts for several devices for which he was attempting to get working ICS.
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I was trying to get it to work but I need a custom kernel made for our phone and I don't have the knowledge for making that if anyone does pm.me please and ill attempt to make it
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Im itching to try and port ICS, but an SDK port isn't what you want to work with if it can be avoided.
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You should be able to get it to work, maybe with some bugs. If you never try you, won't know what might happen
From my fist to your face, enjoy!
It's being worked on by myself and a couple others. No eta or anything, but I'll start a thread in general section when we have more info on where we stand to keep everyone updated.
Sounds goods to me
From my fist to your face, enjoy!
Hi all,
Personally I still love my G1. It is the 1st Android phone so historically something that is interesting on its own.
I assume most of the G1 owners on this forum are having the same geekish interests as me and I was wondering what you are doing with the device that you concider 'cool' and can impress fellow geeks
Some things I think are impressive:
1. Having a rooted device with a custom very stable and fast Gingerbread firmware (ezgingerbread)
2. The droid2600 and Frodo C64 emulators that run great on the G1 with its keyboard.
3. Haven't done this myself yet, but seeing videos of debian run on the G1 was pretty impressive.
4. Eventhough it is probably not ready for daily use but having ICS on the G1 is amazing.
My G1 is running debian for a while now. But it mostly sits in drawer now, I just bring myself to sell it. No matter how much my wife nags at me.
Sirfearoth said:
My G1 is running debian for a while now. But it mostly sits in drawer now, I just bring myself to sell it. No matter how much my wife nags at me.
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How well does it run? I guess you can't use it as a phone if you started debian?
I am using Frayo
And I use it mainly for forums and IRC and stuff
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I am using Frayo
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Running a customized rom you created yourself does belong in the 'wish I could say that' category.
Compiling programs from source does seem to be possible for the lesser educated with the scriptset smitna has created. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444792
Not as cool as creating your own rom, but you have to start somewhere
I been using it mainly to try roms and stuff,
but every time a friend lost or have no phone, until they get a proper.
I give it to them to use it
and to try to convert them to android
so I use it for educational porposes
Im using frayo too (thanks )
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Running a customized rom you created yourself does belong in the 'wish I could say that' category.
Compiling programs from source does seem to be possible for the lesser educated with the scriptset smitna has created. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444792
Not as cool as creating your own rom, but you have to start somewhere
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What do you mean?
I am really honestly using Frayo....
Froyobylaszlo is /the/ best G1 ROM and I use my mod for the (few) features it adds
Did I say I used that script?
Well...no, I didn't
And I can compile a ROM on my own from source thank you very much.
I just don't really see the need anymore since froyobylaszlo is as good as it gets
And instead of working my way up from aosp, learning along the way since I don't know a lot, I decided to just mod in features I like
And no I didn't use some scripts or rom kitchen
I tried using an apk compiler and a theme kitchen thing to fix certain problems, but then I decided against it...
Also, as of now I'm stopping working on my ROM and MOD and am gonna go for some pure PC development to work on my skills
I'm not too sure what you were trying to say but that's my response
If I misunderstood you, sorry
Edit: I think I did....now I'm debating wheter I should delete the above....
Sorry
Just ignore it all...I though you were saying that I shouldn't advertise here (I'm not btw I'm actually using it to post even)
And I thought you said I used that script and didn't do anything
Well, if you want to jumpstart into rom development with modding,, just open up the rom with winrar/7zip and start looking around
And at the google source website you can find how to compile a rom
The second option may require some programming skills
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Well, if you want to jumpstart into rom development with modding,, just open up the rom with winrar/7zip and start looking around
And at the google source website you can find how to compile a rom
The second option may require some programming skills
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Nice ideas. Might do some research, thx!
Was indeed giving you a compliment for your rom modding, maybe my indirect approach was not clear enough (I am not a native English speaker... that probably doesn't help as well)
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Nice ideas. Might do some research, thx!
Was indeed giving you a compliment for your rom modding, maybe my indirect approach was not clear enough (I am not a native English speaker... that probably doesn't help as well)
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Oh ok thanks
Sorry bout that...http://forums.androidcentral.com/hacking/6037-general-rom-faq.html
This is very useful
Go to "building a rom"
Idk if the link works, its been strange for me, so just scroll down to it
Whenever you edit a rom, you have to sign it...
That link has the files and directions
Also,
I've just had fun experimenting with my G1. I didn't root it myself, but I have learned a lot since I got it. I ran through about 10 or 15 different roms until I found one that I like personally (Ginger yoshi) and customized it the way I wanted. I think the coolest thing that I did on it running a SNES emulator (although I only did it once because of ridiculous lag). I started toying around with DOS box but that didn't go anywhere. I wasn't able to do much with it because it is my primary phone and it got extremely annoying to have to fix it every time I messed something up.
Anyway, it was tons of fun... then it broke :'( And now I'm getting my friend to give me his for free! and the fun will continue.