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Hey All,
I have been messing with my Adam for a bit. I have been trying to figure a way to tether the device. I know Android 2.3 supports Adhoc networks, but not 2.2.
Although the Adam's kernal seems to be much higher revision than 2.2, the device itself only seems to have native 2.2 config options, with an Adam skin. With that said, I cannot get the Adam to tether/connect to an adhoc network, no matter what I try.
I have a Sprint Touch Pro. I can get it to detect as a 3G Usb modem in windows, and it automatically detects as such when hooked into a linux machine, but sadly does not do anything in Android/The Adam. The adam will pair with it over BT, but will not connect to it, and will not even see it in wifi-tether mode.
Any ideas? Is this something fixable with a settings change? Rooting? An app (on the phone or the adam?)
Any/all help or insight is appreciated.
Edit: I apologize, this was meant for the General Discussion. I don't see a way to move or delete this thread now, either. If the mods can move it, that'd be great. If not, I guess my questions still stand.
Assuming you want to tether to provide a more "mobile" internet connection:
Does your phone have some sort of WiFi tether app for it? If not you could attempt to run Android on your WinMo phone via Haret and then try installing a WiFi tether app and see if it works.
I would imagine to tether over USB Adam would need some type of drivers for mobile devices and that gets tricky. I would first try to tether Adam to a Windows or Linux computer with an Internet connection first, see if you can get that to work. Than go to your phone and try that. If it doesn't work from a computer it probably will not work from a phone.
If you want to tether for other purposes such as transferring files, SSH, SFTP, ADB, logcat, etc there are apps for those.
Correct, tethering for mobile internet.
I've actually tried the XDAndroid 2.2 and the 2.0.6 wifi tether app on my phone, but sadly it seems to create adhoc only, I've been unable to get it to create infrastructure, as well as it sometimes thinks it doesn't have root.
I'd have to get a male/male or female/female USB cable to try tethering to my PC, but i'll see if I can't figure that out.
Honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with Wifi tethering if the adam would detect Adhoc, as the XDA wifi tether android app can do that no problem.
Edit: On the windows mobile side, I've tried PDA net and internet connection sharing. Internet connection sharing supports Bluetooth DUN, but the adam doesn't seem to do anything with it, it'll pair but not connect to it. PDA net also seems to just do adhoc broadcast, which the adam cannot detect.
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You answered the question before I could post it. (if you have wifi tethering capability on your phone)
Eujin said:
Correct, tethering for mobile internet.
I've actually tried the XDAndroid 2.2 and the 2.0.6 wifi tether app on my phone, but sadly it seems to create adhoc only, I've been unable to get it to create infrastructure, as well as it sometimes thinks it doesn't have root.
I'd have to get a male/male or female/female USB cable to try tethering to my PC, but i'll see if I can't figure that out.
Honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with Wifi tethering if the adam would detect Adhoc, as the XDA wifi tether android app can do that no problem.
Edit: On the windows mobile side, I've tried PDA net and internet connection sharing. Internet connection sharing supports Bluetooth DUN, but the adam doesn't seem to do anything with it, it'll pair but not connect to it. PDA net also seems to just do adhoc broadcast, which the adam cannot detect.
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So you tried 2.0.6 wifi tether app for WinMo? do you have a link for this app?
Er, no. I tried 2.0.6 wifi tether app for Android, running XDAndroid 2.2 for WM6. Link here to the app
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
I also tried wmwifirouter in windows mobile, link here http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
I had to replace my wpa_supplicant file to get ad-hoc networking working on my Dell Streak. Maybe its similar for Adam.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10514373&highlight=hoc+found#post10514373
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...c-network-connection-for-streak/#entry1381049
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-863976.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754961
I'm trying to get in to modify the wpa_supplicant as mentioned, but I'm starting to think more and more the adam doesn't have superuser/root access like they've said, as all terminal apps I've tried have failed. Thanks for the heads up, though.
If anyone else finds any alternatives in the meantime, let me know.
You would replace the supplicant file on XDAndroid, not on Adam. The supplicant is for the system running wifi tether acting as the hotspot.
Ok, I feel stupid, but ptok's post makes it sounds like he modified the supplicant on his streak so it would see ad-hoc networks.
Wouldn't I want to modify the Adam so it can see ad-hoc, since my phone can already push out ad-hoc even in WinMo?
Eujin said:
Ok, I feel stupid, but ptok's post makes it sounds like he modified the supplicant on his streak so it would see ad-hoc networks.
Wouldn't I want to modify the Adam so it can see ad-hoc, since my phone can already push out ad-hoc even in WinMo?
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Good luck with that. You're talking about reverse engineering drivers, recompiling kernels, and a lot of time spent for little gain and possibly no gain. It is almost always easier to attempt to get the wifi spewing device to act as an AP than it is to get something else to comprehend ad hoc networks. Besides, security is stronger with the former than the latter.
What about the XDA WiFi Tether from here. Is it any newer, is there an option for WPA? If not thats about all the help I can provide. You are probably going to have to go to XDAndroid forums and ask how to turn the phone into an AP or ask about WPA supplicant info.
Just remembered that some folks on XDA were trying to do the same thing with the Hero I think. They started some stuff and never finished, but did get WiFi Tether to support WPA which is a step in the right direction. You could hunt around the Hero CDMA dev forum and see if anything exists.
Sorry I couldn't help more.
Just read this thread at Notion Ink Hacks that ad hoc should work...
http://notioninkhacks.com/forums/vi...sid=0ee5dff6243da9c4d02433800dd9f4b1&start=60
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webs05 said:
Just read this thread at Notion Ink Hacks that ad hoc should work...
http://notioninkhacks.com/forums/vi...sid=0ee5dff6243da9c4d02433800dd9f4b1&start=60
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I get a "You are not authorised to read this forum" when I try to follow this link. However, I do see that the Notion Ink Hacks update includes Adhoc. Cool.
Tried that on my friend's Adam. It worked.
I can confirm that the NIH updates have enabled ad-hoc tethering, and it works great.
Ad Hoc
What ROM did you use that Ad-Hoc worked on? I am running EdenX and I can connect to an ad-hoc network, but not actually use the internet access through the connection.
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I was using WMWifiRouter, which resulted in the scenario identified above. I downloaded the HTC Wifi app that I found in one of the other XDA forums, installed it on my phone and created a hotspot with it and it worked fully. Apparently there is something different in the HTC implementation as compared to the WMWifiRouter app implementation that lets one work fully and the other only to allow a connection, but not access the internet.
WiFi Tethering Adam and Nexus One
Eujin said:
Hey All,
I have been messing with my Adam for a bit. I have been trying to figure a way to tether the device. I know Android 2.3 supports Adhoc networks, but not 2.2.
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I simply set my Nexus One as a WiFi Hotspot ... configure it with a SSID and WPA2 PSK security and a Password ... then turn on the WiFi on the Adam and enter the Passphrase. Away it goes. That is why I ordered a WiFi only model.
so with my minimal knowledge of phone stuffs ive kinda learned that when i run the wireless tether for root app on my phone it uses ad hoc to supply other computers with internet... basically im asking, will my evo be able to supply my xoom with internet?
Not at the moment, no support for Ad-Hoc networks in HC, not sure if there ever will be - very annoying.
I'm not sure but I believe there is a new version of Wireless Tether that will allow such a connection. When I first tried the Kindle connecting to my DX, it wouldn't connect. With the new version, it does.
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My Xoom connects to my DX with no problems.
Go download Wireless Tether from the website. The experimental one is called Wifi Tether now. Works like a charm for infrastructure mode so that the Xoom can tether with your phone. Also Bluetooth seems to work fine as well.
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Is the Wireless tether for the phone or the Xoom (or both)? I need an option for the iPhone in case the steps posted here won't work!
is this an app that enables ad-hoc detection on the Xoom,
or
does it just provide a full wifi hotspot tethering feature for Android devices?
I also use an iPhone which supplies an ad-hoc hotspot connection that I need my Xoom to recognize and connect to.
So does that mean you got it to work that way? Is the app available through the Market?
No its not available in the market. Google wireless tether and look for wifi tether. The new app sends the signal via infrastructure mode. I think it applies to certain phone like Droid X and EVO.
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The Wireless Tether app is ran on the host phone wanting to be turned into a wifi hotspot. There are certain phones that run in Ad-Hoc mode in default (aka Droid 1) and the only option to tether the Xoom to them is via bluetooth. As others have said, the new version "WiFi Tether" is apparently enabling infrastructure mode rather than Ad-hoc mode, something that the Xoom can actually connect to.
There is no app that you install on the Xoom. When the WiFi Tether is ran on the host device, the Xoom just connects to it as a WiFi router and works just fine (or bluetooth if thats what you're doing).
So OP, if you can't get the new version of WiFi tether to work for you and your Xoom, try the Bluetooth tethering option, it's been shown in detail in a thread here how to do it, and it should work just fine.
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Is the Wireless tether for the phone or the Xoom (or both)? I need an option for the iPhone in case the steps posted here won't work!
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The app is for android, and for the host device not the Xoom, so you'll need to Bluetooth tether your iPhone.
wpa_supplicant
I understand exactly what the OP is talking about, as i'm trying to do the same thing. What makes matters worse, is that ad-hoc connections ARE possible in android. Meaning android can connect to ad-hoc networks, but it requires swapping out the wpa_suppplicant file in system/bin with a modified one that doesn't filter out ad-hoc networks.
i've even tested this on my EVO, and it connects to other android phones incapable of broadcasting in infrastructure mode, it even connects to my ubuntu netbook broadcasting in ad-hoc...
(if you want to see what i'm talking, just search the forums for wpa_supplicant, something will turn up )
I've tried doing the same "fix" with my xoom, but it doesn't take. Using ADB or root explorer, i've replaced the orignal (making sure to save a copy just in case) and fixed permissions to 775, but it doesn't take. The wifi antenna will turn on, but it doesn't find anything once being replaced, not even saved networks or access points. I can get wifi back by restoring my backup, but i'm at a loss as to why it doesn't work on the xoom (3.0) but does with my evo (2.3).
as a side note, i'm using the right replacement for the wpa version returned by entering
"wpa_supplicant -v" in a terminal emulator or adb. It returns version v0.6.10 and there is a working, modified, v0.6.10 that should make things work, but doesn't....
anyway, if anyone has any input, i would love to hear it!
I am in the same boat. Regardless of whatever permission settings I have tried (mentioned in the dev forums that I can't yet post in), I still get a dead wifi with the new supplicant file.
Ah, I feel better now. It must have been the supplicant file, as I found this other one and it worked without permission modifications first time out.
You will have to google "xoom supplicant" and use the file found on the first response (android.net)-I can't post the link- the downside to attitude having, overlord type forums is inability for new users to provide any help, or at least with any convenience.
i try connecting my xoom to my computer, and it wouldn't work. i have the "Intel My Wifi Technology" but each time i set up a connection, the xoom finds it, but will take like a minute trying to connect and all i see on the xoom is "Obtaining IP address". it shows on my computer that a new device is connected. maybe this only works computer to computer. cuz i have had success with another laptop connecting to my computer with no problem.
I am using the Launchpad kernel and the WPASupplicant file and am connected to my phone's ad-Hoc network now. I used the beta Wi-Fi Tether and it worked great, but crashed my Samsung Galaxy S at least twice a day. So I installed the WPA file without setting any special permissions, just used Root Explorer to copy it an it worked fine.
Is there a way to connect on a ad-hoc hostet by a laptop (win7) yet?
That would be interesting, cause if it work this way, it will work for every phone or something else!
Hey Guys,
i am having a little problem. i am using the Intel My Wifi Technology. and i don't know if i am doiing something wrong or this is just not possible. but i try connecting my xoom to my laptop, and it is not working or connecting. i get a message on the xoom that say's Obtaining IP address", but nothing happen on the xoom. is this not yet possible on the xoom. i don't know if this is consider ad-hoc network or not, cuz i am new to all this.
but here is the link to intel website for the program i am using as a wifi hotspot.
http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/mywifi.htm
and here is a video of what the program does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuAQjR76A68
anyone with knowlwdge on this please help me understand what i am doing wrong or not doing. or even if this is a possibility.
If you're not opposed to rooting your Xoom, here's another option. I just unlocked and rooted my WiFi-only Xoom yesterday, and inserted the supplicant file in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033314
It works like a charm! I'm running a WinMo Touch Pro 2 with WMWiFiRouter, and the Xoom now sees and properly connects to Ad Hoc networks. And, it still works with all other networks.
I don't know which way you prefer to attack the problem (from the Xoom or the phone), but I've been thrilled ever since I got all this done yesterday. Everything else on the Xoom is great, and now I've got the working SD card as well.
supremecream06 said:
Hey Guys,
i am having a little problem. i am using the Intel My Wifi Technology. and i don't know if i am doiing something wrong or this is just not possible. but i try connecting my xoom to my laptop, and it is not working or connecting. i get a message on the xoom that say's Obtaining IP address", but nothing happen on the xoom. is this not yet possible on the xoom. i don't know if this is consider ad-hoc network or not, cuz i am new to all this.
but here is the link to intel website for the program i am using as a wifi hotspot.
http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/mywifi.htm
and here is a video of what the program does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuAQjR76A68
anyone with knowlwdge on this please help me understand what i am doing wrong or not doing. or even if this is a possibility.
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Is it right that you host a Wifi on your computer and tether internet to you tablet? I think its the usual problem android and ad-hoch, witch not work!
I've found several threads on the subject of Tethering a Xoom via BT and Wifi but I'm not having much luck and there's a lot of confusion about providers/Xoom versions/phones, etc. so rather than tag on to a thread I hope it's ok to start a new one.
I have the following:
Wifi Xoom (NOT the Verizon version, the one that just came out on March 27th here in the US)
HTC Hero GSM - completely unlocked (purchased in Europe). Running Android 2.1 standard update from HTC. I'm using the AT&T data plan but device is not an AT&T device at all.
I would like to see if I can Tether the Xoom to the phone and use the data connection I have on it. I understand that the Xoom's chipset doesn't allow for Ad-hoc networks. I've tried to do a Wifi Tether and although that works from my Laptop to my Phone the Xoom doesn't see the ad-hoc network. I don't believe there is any way for me to make the Wifi Tether work in Infrastructure mode so I don't think there is an option there (unless the Xoom can be modified somehow to see Ad-hoc).
So now I'm trying to use Bluetooth Tethering. I've tried both PdaNet and Wifi Tether (v2.0.7 and phone rooted via SuperOneClick). Both seem to start up fine and are running. I then pair the two devices but as many others have reported, I don't see any Tethering options on the Xoom so I'm stuck.
I've tried different orders of things... run Wifi Tether, pair, vs. pair then Wifi Tether, work with Airplane mode on vs. off, Wifi on vs. off, etc. but I never see that Tether option show up.
Anyone have this working with an HTC Hero GSM by any chance? Note that this is the Wifi-Only Xoom which seems to have different features than the Verizon 3G Xoom. Could it be that the Hero itself doesn't support this profile? Or can the Xoom be modified to force it to think the device is tetherable.
I'm not sure if rooting the Xoom would help any or maybe flashing a custom ROM like CM7 on the Hero would help any. I'd prefer not to have to do this but if someone has this working with my exact configuration I'd give it a try.
Any help would be appreciated.
From what i know, most tethering tech /apps are establishing a ad-hoc network' which the xoom isnt capable of...
I too have the Xoom wifi only version with a HTC rooted CDMA Hero.
As everyone knows now the Ad hoc will not tether with the Xoom infrastructure as of the latest.
I too get full bluetooth tethering signal from Wireless Tether, but like you the Xoom will "pair but not connect". As you, I am confused as to whether it is the Hero or the Xoom Wifi which will not connect to the bluetooth tether.
I suspect it is the Xoom Wifi, but would also like a definitive answer and better yet a viable solution.
I have no issue tethering my Xoom (Wifi model) with my Verizon Motorola Droid (1 Gen) over Bluetooth.
My Droid is full rooted with custom Gingerbread ROM (2.3.3) and Overclocked Kernel from ChevyNo1. His kernels are everything enable such as tethering and VPN. This might be the difference for some.
The one annoying thing is that everytime I enable the hotspot on my Droid, I have to go into the Xoom settings and enable tethering on the connection to my Droid. This also has to be done if either device goes not a range and brought back. I am trying to find a widget or a Tasker script to auto enable this.
Be sure to already start the wifi tether program on your phone (selecting the blutooth option on it) then bring up the blutooth settings menu on your xoom, just press and hold the little wrench you see to the right of your phone icon. it should bring up the tether option...just press that and you should see it conect via blutooth.
Just be sure to have the wifi tether app on your phone already on and set for blutooth. This works for me everytime (running the atrix) and shoujkd also work for your phone too.
Still no luck on my side with the Tethering on while I do the pairing and/or when I touch the wrench icon.
I'd like to understand more about how the Bluetooth profile is detected. Does my phone have to publish out a certain profile? Or does the Xoom have a list of device types that it knows are tetherable? I've read on another forum that it seemed like Motorola devices like the Droid worked whereas HTCs didn't seem to. I'm wondering if the Xoom detects the type of phone it's connecting to and decides whether it's tetherable or not... Anyone know? If this is the case maybe there's some file that can be tweaked on the Xoom to include additional devices or change the phone to broadcast out a different device name, etc. Maybe I should try changing my device name to 'Droid' or something.
Just guessing at this point....
I had the same issue with my droid, bluetooth tether is a pretty good alternative. I made a video of it, works with most phones with that create the Ad-Hoc. Check out video below to see the easy steps involved. Root on phone required.
Thanks for posting the video. This is exactly what I tried but does not work with my HTC Hero and my Wifi Xoom. I'm going to see if I rename my Bluetooth device name to 'Droid' to see if that makes any difference. I doubt it....
rosso said:
Thanks for posting the video. This is exactly what I tried but does not work with my HTC Hero and my Wifi Xoom. I'm going to see if I rename my Bluetooth device name to 'Droid' to see if that makes any difference. I doubt it....
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I ran into a little bug, and it wouldn't recognize my droid. I had to unpair and turn on the bluetooth tether app. Then pair. The xoom then recognized the bluetooth tether. Hopefully this works, I apologize if it doesn't.
My wifi Xoom works perfectly paired with a CM7 Nexus One.
App: wireless tether
pd: key is the wrench
I tried renaming the bluetooth device name to 'Droid' but that didn't make a difference. I'm sure I'm following the same steps as in the video. Somehow the Xoom doesn't see the Hero as a Tetherable device...
Maybe there are some differences in Bluetooth chipsets?
Wifi tethering works with the Desire Z or the G2
I assume the network it creates is not an ad-hoc otherwise the xoom wouldn't have recognized it?
It's either not ad-hoc or you're using Bluetooth. You'd have to explicitly choose Bluetooth tethering in the Wireless Tether app so I assume you're using Wifi.
From what I understand some phones (the ones that are meant to be used as wifi hotspots) do broadcast in infrastructure mode rather than ad-hoc so I assume that's why it works for you.
Also of note is that Honeycomb only supports PAN tethering, and not DUN tethering.
Your phone also has to have "bluetooth tethering" turned on (however you do it, I don't have an android phone) so that the Xoom can discover the PAN bluetooth service.
Interesting. Something to read up more on. I'm using Wireless Tether to do the Bluetooth tethering but maybe I need something additional switched on. At least it's another direction to look at....
Seems like someone figured out how to get the Xoom to listen to Ad-hoc networks but that needs the Xoom rooted so I'll also research that. I prefer Bluetooth tethering since it uses less juice on the phone....
It does seem that "Wireless Tether" which is what I'm using on my HTC Hero, is running in PAN mode. If I look at the app's directory it has a pand executable, etc. and when I'm running the tether it is running pand in the process list.
Still, if I pair, even while it's running pand the Xoom still doesn't recognize it as tetherable. Grrr.... Wish I had another bluetooth client I could try to connect to see if it's the phone or the Xoom but I don't have anything else.
I'm wondering if it's because I have the Android 2.1 update for my Hero. Wireless Tether seems to support the 1.5 version of the Hero but doesn't mention 2.1. Maybe there is an incompatibility there...
Anyway, will continue to try to figure it out.
Rosso, your not on your own, I am still trying to figure this out on my hero running froydvillian. I have done the wifi ad hoc mod and thats working for me but BT tethering woudl be better, I will let you know If i ever find a solution.
I did see someone else loaded CM7 for the hero and then BT tether worked, but CM7 seems to have been pulled for the hero at the moment due to stability issues.
I have a droid eris (verizon's cdma hero) and I have the same exact problems but I'm on cm7and using wireless tether. I can get the to devices and connect via tethering but 5 seconds after that my phone reboots.
Just picked up a wifi-Xoom for my wife over the weekend. Tried to get it connected to my phone (HD2) as a wifi hotspot and was having problems (the ad-hoc problem). The xoom wouldn't even see the hotspot. I am running AmeriCanDroid 0413 build and it has wifi tether v. 3.0-pre11. So I switched back to winmo and still nothing, then I tried going to Darkstone SuperRam 1.5 (my fallback build). It has an older version of wifi tether, I think 2.06 or something like that and got the xoom to connect. I haven't had a lot of time to fool around with it, but it was able to get a network connection. Maybe you could try an older version of the wifi tether? I haven't experimented with the BT tethering yet. I don't want to root the xoom yet, maybe when my wife is tired of it.
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Just checked the wifi-tether website and there is a new version of wifi tether and it supports softap which may help the xoom recognize the wifi hotspot.
Hi, I have just managed to get my hero bluetooth tethered to my htc hero.
The process I followed was basically what everyone has said:-
download wireless tether i am using 2.0.7
1. start bluetooth on phone and xoom (make discoverable)
2. Do not pair the devices yet
3. start up wireless tether, select bluetooth and tap to start the actual service
4. go back to bluetooth on your xoom and pair the devices
I then got an icon I had not had before and when I tapped the wrench I got the option to tether.
As for wifi tether your phone needs to put out infrastructure wifi for the xoom to see it, if its ad-hoc, you'll need to do the wifi mod so that he xoom sees adhoc
although as stated the new version of 'wifi tether' (which just seems to be the new name for the 'wireless tether' app) may fix that? but doesn't seem to support bluetooth as the 2.07 version does
So all of our phones with Wifi hotspot features create an ADHOC connection which Honeycomb does not support. Same goes with Bluetooth, no DUN. Google what the hell? Ya ya,carriers this and carriers that but what about people paying for hotspot features on the phone. I have customers that I need to setup to pair with the TF but it seems nothing will work without rooting and that can be phone specific. So the TF is great as long as you are close to a WIFI connection is supports?
If I'm missing something someone please fill me in.
~DC
think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
Welcome to Android.
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think it depends on phone my desire HD works fine
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Are you rooted?
Are you simply pairing or using another app on your phone?
Can you run through your connection steps?
Thanks,
~DC
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But why would they do this knowing what the phones support?
~DC
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
dfin13 said:
I am using the hotspot feature on my Evo, and I've been tethering to it at work since the day I got my Transformer. I'm not doing anything special, just turning on the hotspot and letting the TF connect. Now, my Evo is rooted with a ROM that "unlocks" the hotspot functionality so I'm not paying extra, and I'm not using the Wireless Tether app, but it's the same concept.
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The hotspot feature on your ROM is supporting a true wifi connection and not peer to peer adhoc. I can't always root customers phones.
~DC
I may be misunderstanding how it works, but this isn't a wireless tether baked into the ROM, it's the built-in Sprint hotspot feature that I'm using, just unlocked so I don't have to pay extra. If someone was paying for the hotspot feature on Sprint, they wouldn't need root, but maybe this is only the case with Sprint's implementation.
i was able to do both wifi and bluetooth tethering. took me a while to figure out, (since i've never done it before, less due to the difficulty of doing it)
assuming the phone supports Bluetooth tethering, it should always work.
I have a DroidX and I can tether using the built in stock Hotspot feature or with Bluetooth. However, I can't tether using an ad hoc connection because I get an error stating that the device doesn't support ad hoc connections...
So, it is definitely device specific and it will be something the carriers remove as many report being able to do so with root (my device is rooted and I can't connect via ad hoc - although, I haven't d/l or tried out the pdaNet app).
I will also add that the bluetooth tethering has worked MUCH better than the wifi - easier/faster to connect, runs pretty fast, and my phone doesn't overheat as much....
Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
I went into a store to try a tf and there was no internet so I turned on my WiFi hotspot on my sgsII and it worked perfectly fine, not sure if that's the same as you're asking but that works.
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Works fine with my evo. The Evo has proper infrastructure wifi hotspot.
Maybe the users need to update their phones?
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Are you rooted?
~DC
Any HTC thunderbolt users reading this that have tried hotspot?
~DC
a lot of clarification
Hi all,
I need your help, understanding ... well everything about wifi/TF/WM6.5/adhoc and whatever the other connection is?
I don't think of myself as a noob, but to be honest I'm lost with the wifi on the TF. So here it goes: I have TF and HD2. Under WM6.5 I can't get the TF to see the shared internet through the "wifi router" application on the phone. But then I run a custom Desire HD ROM and this one (can't remember the application) shares and gives access to the TF?!?!
First off, which is which? Which is adhoc and which is infrastructure? And what is the difference (sorry i did look on the internet, but that got me confused even more because I could not see any difference). Are you saying that a standard (not rooted Android) will have the same problem? I was thinking of switching to an android phone so that I can get the easy sharing option, but if I have to root a brand new phone????
Any help will be appreciated,
rio
Easy way to tether off a rooted phone.
Install one of the older versions of wireless tether that supports bluetooth.
Turn on the bluetooth DUN on wireless tether.
Hit ok when it asks to turn on Bluetooth and make discoverable.
On the transformer go to settings-wireless-bluetooth
Scan for your device and pair.
Once paired you should see a little wrench next to your device, click on it
Under Profiles, it should show tethering with a checkbox. Click this and in a few seconds Wireless tether should buzz its connected and off you go.
I've been able to tether my transformer like this since out of the box.
Edit - BTW I've tried this with PDAnet and other non rooted tehtering programs, and I couldn't get it to work with those options. Just FYI
the difference between ad-hoc and infrastructure is the way devices communicate.
infrastructure is kinda like the way we send messages via the post office. we send it to a central place, then it figures out how to deliver the message. this is how true routers operate
ad-hoc is peer-to-peer. imagine passing notes back in elementary school.
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some phones comes with a tethering app without having to root, but this typically requires you to pay extra fee to your carrier ($30 for sprint)
if you don't want to pay that, then you have to root your phone to either get a rom that already supports infrastructure mode, or download an app that does. [ ie Wifi Tether ]
people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
finalhit said:
people googling "honeycomb dun" would be incredibly misinformed by this thread.
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You are right. I put Honeycomb 3.1 in the title but forgot to mention in the OP if anyone heard that 3.1 would have support for DUN or Ad Hoc.
Sorry for any confusion I might have caused
~DC
Edit: I posted misinformation.
So - rooted my Virgin Mobile Samsung Intercept (running froyo) and just got lucky enough to get a Acer Iconia Tablet (a500 32gb model) and would *love* to be able to use my intercept as a hot spot.
Downloaded Barnacle (and a few others) to my intercept - can start barnacle with no warnings or error messages from my Intercept - i get the message letting me know it is beaconing - but no matter what I try I cannot connect from my a500 (or other devices I tried for troubleshooting; my girlfriends Samsung Intercept and my friends Evo 4 do not see my hotspot.
Long post made short; any one out there got the rooted 2.2 ROM working as hotspot? Would be grateful for some help.
Barnacle wi-fi in ad-hoc mode so that's probably one of the reasons your devices could not detect the signal. Since you have rooted your phone, what Rom or Kernal is it running on?
Thanks for responding!
My intercept is running stock 2.2 from Virgin Mobile - rooted and cleaned out some of the more worthless apps it ships with.
Intercept-
Build number - froyo.ec07
Kernel version - 2.6.32.9
Android version - 2.2.2
Acer Iconia A500 (WiFi only tablet)
Android Version - 3.0.1
Kernel version - 2.6.36.3
Build number - 1.144.07
I feel I may be going at it all wrong - have read a few threads claiming the a500 supports connecting to an ad-hoc connection, some say it does not. Would think my next step would be to head over to the a500 section and see about getting the a500 to support ad-hoc.
Will be by a friends laptop with wifi in a few mins, will test barnacle there to verify I even have it working right in the first place
Tested!
My intercept is not the issue - was able to connect to my hotspot via a windows box.
So now to find out if the a500 can be convinced to connect to ad-hoc.
Search Hotspot Widget by Harold Muller on the market. Says it's a widget, not a tethering app, but my acer a500, rooted nook color, and laptop all connect perfectly to my stock Optimus V on virgin mobile
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hmmmmm
Now I am confused. Does the virgin mobile phone you have support proper infrastructure hotspot, or only ad-hoc via a rooted phone (like mine?)
From what I read, I need to mess with the wpa supplciant here on the a500 to get it to even connect to an ad-hoc network, I am a little nervous about trying it - some users reporting broken wifi and other pains.
Honestly, I dont know. Neither acer nor virgin mobile phone is rooted, but I tried this and it worked without having to change anything on either device. I put the widget on phone home screen to toggle it on, then scan wifi with acer and connect. I also secured it with a password. For $25/mo, this vmobile service is kicking att butt.
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hmmmm.
Sounds like your phone already has hotspot unlocked - which lets you run a normal infrastructure wifi hotspot - the intercept requires root to function as a hotspot, and even then it will be a ad-hoc network, which the a500 cannot connect to without a bit of patching some system files
Infrastructure Mode wi-fi
On rooted Intercept, Infrastructure Mode wi-fi is much better:
Infrastructure Mode 100% [Simplified]
Holy crap!
Educate: you just made my day. Works like a charm. Thank you ever so much - my Iconia tablet can now connect to my Intercept hotspot - and it works! Tested with multiple applications.
Thank you again for helping me. Very awesome of you!
Or.. do like I did.. install ultimate kernal v3 and then download wireless tether.. works great..
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