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They finally released 2GB version! My prayers are heard!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
bala_gamer said:
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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both of them are on par on performance with one winning the others in few test, you will absolutely note no difference in performance.
bala_gamer said:
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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What makes you say that S4 uses more memory? Both of them don't have dedicated graphics memory like the Tegra3 so they both need to use system ram. The rest is upto the OS, the SoC has nothing to do with it.
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
S4/Krait : (+) newer architecture, not exactly A15, but comparable. Good battery life. If you use LTE, I think it has integrated LTE radios.
Quad-Exynos: (+) Powerful GPU, I would believe that Samsung can optimize their software much better for Exynos compared to S4. Decent battery life. I read that they modified the architecture with options like 128-bit internal bus which is not available in other A9's.
2GB RAM to probably offset the extra memory used by S4 as we saw in the case AT&T HOX multitasking issue.
Decision is yours.
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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Tegra 3 sucks compared to S4 but exynos is way better than Tegra 3. I would say exynos is the best currently. I'm not sure if there will be too much advantage to gain with 2gb ram. The one advantage the s4 will have over exynos is battery life.
How many of the people who are saying that s4 plus 2gb is not good actually have an option to buy it? Only guys in US who have option to go with either of the two will give you right answer.
Im going with exynos quadcore... Do i think s4 plus 2gb plus lte is better in terms of hardware? definitely yes. Then why am i getting exynos? I want 10bucks unlimited data which will be available only with the unbranded phone. And international phone will have better developer support.
Im positive that s4 version will be super fluid if you choose to go for it though. I think i have made my decision that ill will get international version for my own reasons.
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MrSimtang said:
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
Definitely getting the S4 version as soon as it hits AT&T. I hope it has the Wolfson DAC... but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
schrickm5 said:
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2GB RAM is a must today. If you do not want to seeks kernels with swap option next months you need this RAM.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2gb ram means faster more fluid multitasking due to Android not having to kill/reload so many apps when you run multiple things. Won't see crap like the launcher having to reload because you opened a few apps for a while. It leads to better user experience.
And how is Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412 performance not similar? From benchmarks I've seen they're both extremely comparable: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't live in Sweden, so our Exynos variant doesn't have DC-HSPA......yet another reason not to waste money on that variant.
They're both good combinations and offer interesting points for technical comparison. My bet is that real world use on both is very fluid. Both are better than Tegra 3 anyways.
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Quad with 2Gb..?
Thread to thread in super Pi the S4 is just 18% faster, so it will shine a bit in a dual core scenario but will be crushed by the Exynos otherwise (4 threads).
Then the GPU of the Exynos is a lot better (S4 GPU is in the range of the SGS2) and battery drain seem comparable between the 2.
Given an option I will go for S4 (Krait) + 2GB but sadly my part of the geographical location I will get only the Quad core one
Wish they went with adreno 320 and s4 quad like thar stupid looking leaked lg phone.
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If you have LTE in your area get the 2.gb if not get the quad. Hspa + isn't exactly slow, just not comparable to LTE
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I think the decision would make it way more easy for me if there was at least a launch date in US and for AT&T specifically. But it could be fall yet before it actually makes it debut here and also depends on which carrier launches first etc.. etc...
I have the International ordered and still may cancel it if this low stock fiasco doesn't end soon... and wait to see how the US launches unfold. I'm also interested to see real life comparisons of performance between these 2 variants..
B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
Snapdragon 600 (1.9ghz speed, 4 cores) or Exynos 5 Octa(4 cores A15, clocked at 1.6ghz+ 4 cores 1.2GHZ A7)
1) what is faster? exynos or snapdragon?
2) which one is more effectively? (battery friendly)? (***in both high-huge use and low-idle use.. in which one battery life are better)
3) there are any benchmarks test for both of them.?
i just dont know which one is better..
Adreno 320 GPU vs PowerVR SGX 544MP3
4) which one is stronger?
5) i really dont know which version should i get.. US version(with 1.9ghz) or international(1.6ghz) their performance are really similar?
6) there is any stronger smartphone out now?
6) will the galaxy s4 have wireless charging?
MUSIC:
7) what about music? is there any quality speakers?
8) headphone will be HD/ very good quality.. ? (like in iPhone 5)?
8)
1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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thanks for taking your time for answering me
do you think exyons 5 will be overclock-able? i hope we will be able to get 1.8ghz or something without losing battery life or something..
yes i think after rooting and few kernel releases you will be able to overclock the Cpu and maybe also the Gpu but why would you need that the exynos on the galaxy s4 is already going to be a beast and it's expected to be in par with the snapdragon and also your welcome
Actually the Exynos is better in every aspect (battery speed and gpu) clock speeds don't mean anything a15s are faster than krait fullstop
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4 core?, I guess its Octo-core Exynos
Well unless you don't use both of them, you can't figure out which one is better.
May be someone may use and let us know.
well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference and what do you mean clock speeds don't mean anything ?? have you seen the benchmark difference between the galaxy s4 and the htc one ?? and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference
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I didn't bother to explain it has been done to much and speed is actually a big factor to make a long story short read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
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That's the while point
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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Some benchmarks show Exynos having 4g compatibility
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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Exynos 5 in the nexus 10 is dual core
But the second part
Where did Exynos 4 come from what are u talking about
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i know it's clocked at 1.7 and i was talking about the note 2 i read in the Xda here that it was available on a carrier in the U.S. with the exynos
You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg
B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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B) another question: the octa core version upports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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Just to butt in, doesn't Exynos octa also have LTE support? I want to know what bands it supports.
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Just wanted to do a quick poll on if your getting the Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600.
If you have a reason for choosing one variant of the Galaxy S4 over the other be sure to comment below!
Haven't decided if I'm upgrading my device yet but if I am, I will be attempting to get the Exynos Octa. The improved battery life and the PowerVr GPU as well as the wolfson DAC are all swinging me towards the Octa. Based on previous Samsung devices, the international version received updates quicker. One downside to the octa at the moment is the lack of LTE, although I find 3G to be fast enough so it isn't really a downside for me.
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I voted exynos though by the time they get to the UK the Note 3, Motorola X and Nexus 5 should all be on the horizon so I may end up getting any one of these four phones especially if Sam manage to do some tardis like design with the Note 3 so it doesn't actually get bigger in the pocket.
I'm going to say there will be about 3 or 4 million Snapdragon devices sold JUST in the U.S. .
Just about every other country except for South Korea and maybe Russia will also be mostly Snapdragon versions. Hopefully, for those of you that ordered the Exynos versions, Samsung will let some of them slip out to other locations as long as they have allotted enough to those two countries..
Octa 5 Exynos seems more future-proof than Qcom Snapdragon 600.
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Wolfson chip is all I care for now. But kind of annoying to learn new standard will be 9505 as most countries will receive those. So development will support them more than Exynos. However, even less development support can't force me switch to 9500 as sound quality is the most important part for me right now. I'm listening to a so much music and I spend the same money for my headphones as I do for my phones.
Unsure as of yet, I don't put bat life as a high priority, I want root but only for the apps that require root, I want the best potential game play and sound, I want lte for faster web than I get now on hspa+42 with my n4, so I guess I have to wait till late June early July and see what the exynos is like by then in the UK or even if the phone has been superceded by then.
I want Exynos variant, but hope with new firmwares will score better on gpu benchmarks...
Am in America and there's LTE to take advantage of, so I have to go with Snapdragon. I would really love to use the i9500, but for me, the better LTE speeds will trump the possibly better processor/audio/battery life of the Exynos. Out in the suburbs, a difference of LTE can determine whether you're streaming Youtube in 1080p, or barely skating by on 360. Likewise with Netflix and other services like that.
It would be awesome if I could have the best of both worlds, but I suspect by the time they did that (if they do it at all with the Galaxy S4) then the Note 3 will be out and then I may as well get that.
that snap wont have the wolfeson chip? wtf!!!! i have a note2 but was looking to get the s4,oh well.. i just wonder how much worse the dac will sound
Quad Core Snapdragon 600
Why?
On Sprint and have an upgrade
rumored to get better cpu support
LTE is available in my area
difference in performance is not great enough to give up other advantages
SD600 because of LTE
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9505
techfanatic9 said:
Just wanted to do a quick poll on if your getting the Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600.
If you have a reason for choosing one variant of the Galaxy S4 over the other be sure to comment below!
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Going for the i9500 as that's what we are having in here. No LTE yet
Swyped from another galaxy
Going for GT-I9500.
No 4G in my area yet.
No LTE, neither I9500 here. Undecided which one to buy. I'll wait for few reviews. I want the Octa, but waiting few updated benchmarks and battery life from Octa before deciding if deserves the money and all the processes to get it instead of i9505
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shadowyman said:
Wolfson chip is all I care for now. But kind of annoying to learn new standard will be 9505 as most countries will receive those. So development will support them more than Exynos. However, even less development support can't force me switch to 9500 as sound quality is the most important part for me right now. I'm listening to a so much music and I spend the same money for my headphones as I do for my phones.
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What would the advantage of the Wolfson DAC be over the Snapdragon GS4? GSMarena's audio testing shows the Snapdragon GS4 has better audio quality than my Nexus S which has a Wolfson DAC.
Since here in Luxembourg we are getting only the I9505 version, I'll be getting the Snapdragon version. I don't really care about benchmarks and CPU's though... so I think I will be ok with both versions
Snapdragon here.
not like I have much of a choice
While I am intrigued by the BIG.Little architecture, and would prefer an exynos with LTE and support for T-mobile radio bands. Since that doesn't exist currently, I am resigned to the Snapdragon, but really not that upset about it. The Snapdragon 600 is a beast in its own right, I'll only be mad if the battery life ends up being much better with exynos over snapdragon.
I'm not too worried about a 10-15% performance difference, and think that development will be better on the snapdragon. I'm much more excited for the new screen, removable battery and sd card, new sensors, wireless charging add-ons, smart cover, almost non-existent light leakage, etc..
I'm on the fence and want a n910c for tmobile in Chicago area however I'm leary of bad coverage without that 1700 aws band.
For those of you in major metropolitan cities with tmobile, does the lack of 1700 aws band make or break your decision to get this device?
How much better/ faster is the n910c vs n910T in day to day use (web browsing, youtube, mx player, email...basic apps....not much gaming?)
I'm more concerned with the smoothness and iOS like smoothness some people say the Exynos provides.
Is the Exynos version that much better vs the Snapdragon re: fluidity, TW lag reduction and overall daily enjoyment?
bump. same question.
As per the antutu benchmark scores, the exynos variant is little a bit better in performance then the snapdragon. But on the other hand, the snapdragon is better in gaming and 3D graphics. I prefer the snapdragon variant.
I traded my note 5 for the S7 edge. I did a side by side comparison after the fact, just opening up some apps and the note 5 was significantly faster. Now i know the note5 is a octa while the s7 is a quad. But I remember Samsung boasting about how its the fastest on the market. I then did a side by side with my buddies s6 and they were the same speed. Has anyone else experienced this? Im wondering if i got a bum phone as im currently in another thread talking about the phones cpu temp. thanks
The quadcore snapdragon should be about 20% to 30% faster than their latest exynos octacore. Also, ram optimization will be diff on both phones. In real world test, the edge 7 runs faster and has better battery life. Once the apps were loaded into the ram on the s7 it blew the note 5 away. I also tested both devices. Your device is normal, the real world performance is slightly better. Not night and day
Samsung optimises there own socs better than the SD variants, see speed tests on YouTube on s7 VS apple 6s..every time the exynos won over the 6s but the SD looses every time (in opening apps etc)
That's the big drawback with having other than home grew socs in your phone, they are not as optimised as the original one.
kennypow3rs said:
The quadcore snapdragon should be about 20% to 30% faster than their latest exynos octacore.
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Very much depends. Single core? Yes. Multi core? No, the other way around. The general consensus is that, as a CPU, the Exynos is the better hardware. But the GPU on the Qualcomm SOC is faster and better.
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Very much depends. Single core? Yes. Multi core? No, the other way around. The general consensus is that, as a CPU, the Exynos is the better hardware. But the GPU on the Qualcomm SOC is faster and better.
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Well yeah in multi core test you wont be winning any benchmarks but more cores dont always mean its faster and or better. Look at what apple does with single and dual core processors. Most of all the bench mark test on both the US version and intl version are pretty neck and neck both versions winning and losing some test to each other. On paper, the 820 should offer a performance boost.
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The quadcore snapdragon should be about 20% to 30% faster than their latest exynos octacore. Also, ram optimization will be diff on both phones.
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There are plenty of benchmarks on this. Exynos 8890 wins on multi-core tests and also real-world tests. It looses by a small margin on single-core. RAM speed is really no-contest, Exynos drives the RAM 50% faster.