Hi guys,
How do we know fm radio chip is not connected? Is there any document confirming that or did any one opened the phone to check that? I have seen a thread where people were talking about enabling disabled fm radio in different phone.
Regards,
ncc74656
Well, there's a binary (in /system/bin/ but I can't remember its name) that communicates with the FM radio driver. And when I was playing around with it, there are some options like changing band or checking info, info was null (or no signal)...
So I guess we really can't make FM radio work just with software.
Maybe that binary came from an early Defy ported Rom, along with the driver, I don't know...
Please link the other thread you saw.
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as i read on development forum: "milestone 2 has the hw to play fm radio, its 'just' not wired. so unless you're crazy enough to open your phone and wire it yourself, no fm radio for milestone and that's it"
I don't know how is it about hw side - except the information already mentioned in the post above.
I only tried fm tuner binary, application and library pack from driod 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769894), but without success - the radio application didn't even correctly started - I thought it will work, but only without signal - 'cause it is not wired to antenna...
I agree with post #2 - unfortunatelly it is shame, but it is - i think - impossible to get it work only with sw way... But I'm also still interested in some prove or source about fm tuner hardware situation in Milestone 2..
Download and install Tunein Radio. It's the best choice...trust me (at least here in Brazil).
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Hi,
Could somebody with a rooted Droid and some insight into how Linux bluetooth works try to test if we can enable the FM radio part of WIFI/BT chip (wl1271) in Droids/Milestones.
I downloaded some init scripts from Texas Instruments that should allow enabling the FM part. I don't know if there is any antenna or if the headphones can be used as antenna though. Can't try this out myself as Milestone hasn't been rooted yet and I'm not allowed to use 'hcitool' or 'hciconfig' commands without root.
I have attached the init scripts downloaded from: [h]ttps://gforge[dot]ti.com/gf/project/wilink_drivers/frs/
More information about how to use them: [h]ttp://www[dot]omappedia.com/wiki/WiLink_Connectivity_Project
Files and links are for the Zoom2 development platform which uses same hardware as our phones. Don't know if some config files should be altered also to enable FM radio.
I also found TI's own FM radio test application. Source is here: [http]://git.omapzoom.org/?p=platform/hardware/ti/omap3.git;a=tree and compiled Android image for Zoom platform here: [https]://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/omapandroid/frs/
Haven't got it working though. Actually I don't know if it's easier to try with the HCI commands and scripts found in the bts files or try to get the fmapp working.
Hi,
you can test it self... milestone is rootet look here
xttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620142
best regards
yanardag
Thanks. Will try it soon.
There's some ongoing development on the FM radio matter at AllDroid ([http]://www(dot)alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=1412) and DroidForums ([http]://www(dot)droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/8870-droid-includes-fm-receiver-transmitter.html).
Any update?
Any update?
It wont work on milestone, hardware is missing some parts to connect antenna to the headphones. http: and-developers.com/motorola_milestone:fmradio
That´s right, the Milestone/Droid not have some parts of reception and transmit modules, so, it´s quite a hard to get it work decently
I see this thread is quite old, but...
any update?
nobody still work in this right?
Any update?
What ever came of this? Is there a way I could try it on my Milestone? Poor reception is irrelevant to me.
(Necropost, I know)
dstruct2k said:
What ever came of this? Is there a way I could try it on my Milestone? Poor reception is irrelevant to me.
(Necropost, I know)
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Lol I also am curious about this
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I was trying to do a little research in to if I could get the FM transmitter/reciever to work or if it would be even possible. A little google searching around I found this. And the person who had been doing the most work on that part of android was an actual broadcom employee. So I sent him a quick, polite email asking him about FM support in the Nexus one. It is as follows:
"Mr. Harte,
I noticed your commits here. Will Broadcom provide support/drivers for the FM transmitter/receiver in the Nexus One and other Android devices?
Sincerely,
Will"
And his surprisingly helpful and quick response:
"Hello,
The FM receiver is supported in the HTC Incredible and HTC EVO 4G. I’m not sure if the Nexus One hardware supports FM. The 4329 chip has FM, but I don’t know if the external components required for the FM Antenna are populated on the board. I believe there is also some work needed in the kernel to enable the audio path for FM, but if/when HTC open-sources the kernel for the EVO or Incredible, this should be evident. Also, the EVO and Incredible use the Broadcom Bluetooth stack, while the Nexus One uses BlueZ. I don’t think there is any support in BlueZ for FM. I have no idea about FM Transmit, but I would highly doubt it is possible to get that to work…
-Howard"
That makes me sad but at least now I know. Hopefully though this will provide some light to any crafty developers interested tinkering with this.
Shorthand.
Even if the hardware says fm/transmit/receive, we would have to solder, replace the bluetooth stack, and possibly replace the chip firmware to get it to work.
Short, short hand.. NO FM on nexus one.
No really, somehow he neglected to mention the sister Desire.
Regarding the antenna portion, it's been proven that the nexus can find stations. . .just not output any sound from them.
Mi|enko said:
Regarding the antenna portion, it's been proven that the nexus can find stations. . .just not output any sound from them.
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I do remember reading about that. Can you find the source? If thats true, then we know the only problem is the stack.
williamthrilliam said:
I do remember reading about that. Can you find the source? If thats true, then we know the only problem is the stack.
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Check the notes from Modaco's Desire ROM port. I think it's there. But since FM radio is analog, there may be a lot more to it than a stack.
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Check the notes from Modaco's Desire ROM port. I think it's there. But since FM radio is analog, there may be a lot more to it than a stack.
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Yup, his bluetooth doesn't work because he is using the Nexus One kernel. Well, we now know what part of the kernel isn't allowing the bluetooth to work; Bluez vs the Broadcom Stack. I don't know the legal implications of using it, but it seems like it would be possible.
Devastatin said:
Shorthand.
Even if the hardware says fm/transmit/receive, we would have to solder, replace the bluetooth stack, and possibly replace the chip firmware to get it to work.
Short, short hand.. NO FM on nexus one.
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Patently FALSE.
All we need is a kernel with FM support and the FM driver. Receive is definitely possible.
I do believe however that the power amplifier chips for transmitting are absent, so that won't be a possibility.
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Yup, his bluetooth doesn't work because he is using the Nexus One kernel. Well, we now know what part of the kernel isn't allowing the bluetooth to work; Bluez vs the Broadcom Stack. I don't know the legal implications of using it, but it seems like it would be possible.
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Getting an analog tuner that isn't connected to anything to tune is not much help. I don't care what software you write, if there is no output to be captured, it's not going to happen. It's like a cable box with no television connection. It tunes just fine. If the rest of the connecting hardware is there, then there's a shot. But Google has never said there would be FM in the Nexus One at any point. I am less than optimistic.
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Patently FALSE.
All we need is a kernel with FM support and the FM driver. Receive is definitely possible.
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That still has not been determined.
or you can go to your favorite radio station's website and click on "listen in" or whatever and now your listening to FM on your phone. =D
or maybe not, thats how it works on my pc..
i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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The Broadcom BCM4329EKUBG has all of these functions built in. FM, 802.11, bluetooth.
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
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i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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The bluetooth/fm/wifi are all on one chipset.
ChillRays said:
or you can go to your favorite radio station's website and click on "listen in" or whatever and now your listening to FM on your phone. =D
or maybe not, thats how it works on my pc..
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For the most part yes (esp. with those of us with froyo and flas ). But what made me start searching for this was a tornado that past by me by only a few miles. I luckily was in the car and able to tune in to a station broadcasting the Emergency Broadcasting Systems's message, but I thought it would be nice to be able to do that on my phone.
RogerPodacter said:
i dont understand what the bluetooth has anything to do with this? why does it matter the blueZ vs broadcom bluetooth hardware? it sounds like the fm radio portion is there and can even pick up stations with an antenna, just routing the audio. but that doesnt need to happen thru bluetooh, it could happen through the headset or loudspeaker.
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Integrated circuits perform multiple functions. That broadcom chip could do a lot more than blue tooth. FM is analog. If all you have is the tuner and there is no connecting hardware, then yeah, you receive a signal, but it's going nowhere. If you can't capture the output, you can't use it. Do we know if the FM radio signal in the Desire is ever digitized? It could work like a regular FM radio and the digital/software part is for tuning purposes only and radio itself is analog. I read somewhere is that the HTC FM radios require wired headset use - and don't play back through blue tooth. Irony there, I think. Speculation is that is because they are used for an antenna, but I think it could also be that it's because it's an analog output. I am guessing the N1 is missing all the required circuits - except the tuner.
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Integrated circuits perform multiple functions. That broadcom chip could do a lot more than blue tooth. FM is analog. If all you have is the tuner and there is no connecting hardware, then yeah, you receive a signal, but it's going nowhere. If you can't capture the output, you can't use it. Do we know if the FM radio signal in the Desire is ever digitized? It could work like a regular FM radio and the digital/software part is for tuning purposes only and radio itself is analog. I read somewhere is that the HTC FM radios require wired headset use - and don't play back through blue tooth. Irony there, I think. Speculation is that is because they are used for an antenna, but I think it could also be that it's because it's an analog output. I am guessing the N1 is missing all the required circuits - except the tuner.
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This is true of the Touch Pro hardware at least. The FM Radio wouldn't function with out the headphones plugged in. It used the headphone wire as the antenna.
there is a great thread going in the nexus development area where some people are trying to write the kernel so that the sound has an output. It sounds like they are making great progress maybe anyone reading this thread who has some technical skills can help. I believe they too have been able to tune the phone to a station but not output the sound yet.
It seems to me we need definitive answers to the following 2 questions from HTC / Google ...
Q1. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio reception and output through either the speaker or headphones. YES/NO?
Q2. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio transmission of any type (music / voice). YES/NO?
If both answers are a definitive NO, we can move on. If there is a YES then the clever people here, who make the magic happen, have some hope of success.
Does anyone know the correct ppl at HTC / Google to ask these questions of?
I don’t have anything to add but would like to encourage you guys in your endeavour to get FM radio working on the N1 and also point you too or remind you what androidpolice reported at Google I/O
If this is true then perhaps all the building blocks are in place.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nity-as-our-best-bet-post-google-io-coverage/
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It seems to me we need definitive answers to the following 2 questions from HTC / Google ...
Q1. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio reception and output through either the speaker or headphones. YES/NO?
Q2. Does the nexus one have the necessary hardware and interconnections for FM radio transmission of any type (music / voice). YES/NO?
If both answers are a definitive NO, we can move on. If there is a YES then the clever people here, who make the magic happen, have some hope of success.
Does anyone know the correct ppl at HTC / Google to ask these questions of?
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Or maybe we just need to think and use the info that we have in other threads on the subject. But I'll repeat things written in another thread, by myself and other guys:
Q1. Broadcom chip brief (the best doc available for it on the net) clearly shows the radio having no separate connections but using BT's high speed UART and I2C. The interconnects are the same, and since Paul's Desire port has radio control working - that means I2C is working too, so the answer is YES.
Q2. The stated output power of the chip is good enough for short-range transmission w/o a dedicated antenna, using headphone cord. The control and data are given in the same way as in Q1. So, the answer is YES again, but with more trouble - while there is a working device utilizing FM receiver functionality, which can at least theoretically be ported completely using its source, there is no device with FM transmitter, which means - if someone wants to use transmitter, that someone needs to acquire specific Broadcom documents for the chip.
So I guess the thread can be laid to rest, and anyone that can really help - for example, to go over Desire source and figure out the correct setting for QSD UART to receive FM audio and the procedures to stream it to the speaker - are welcome to head over to Dev section.
Has anyone been able to find out if the PRO has a radio in it like the X and D2?
http://androidcommunity.com/activate-the-droid-2’s-fm-radio-yes-it-has-one-20100927/
Common sites say Yes for FM Radio, but after I checked pdadb.net and motorola's developer site for Droid Pro specs - both the sites do NOT indicated FM Radio.
Now it all remains on someone who's bought the device and can let us know.
I own a Moto Pro
How can I check? (Without opening it or voiding my warrany)
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I own a Moto Pro
How can I check? (Without opening it or voiding my warrany)
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Just plug in your headset and look for the FM Radio app in Menu. If it exists then Yes there is a FM Radio if NOT we have the answers.
FM Radio within TI wlan/bluetooth chipset
Hi Droid Pro Users!
There is a light in the dark for FM Radio fans.
I just found this info from TI about the on board chipset TI 1271
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There are four solutions in the WiLink 6.0 product
offering. The WL1271 supports 802.11b/g/n in
the 2.4-GHz band, while the WL1273 supports
802.11a/b/g/n with 2.4-GHz and 5-GHz band
support. Both single-chip solutions support
Bluetooth 2.1 Release, ANT and FM transmit and
receive. The WL1271/3L support in addition to
the above, Bluetooth Low Energy Specification
4.0 + EDR.
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You will find all info here:
focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12762&contentId=29993&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=ProductBulletin+OT+wilink_6
That means the Droid Pro hardware is able to receive FM Radio and maybe also to send, but receiving would be good enough for me.
Now... who is able to build the necessary drivers?
I would love to do it but I have no idea how ;-)
Maik
Very interesting indeed!
When/if built the software and drivers would be brilliant. Maybe moto can do it if requested by many of us?
In the meantime I use tunein radio app from market, which works well using my data connection, network or wifi.
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I could bet that Motorla don't care about it.
As far as my experience with Moto is...
- they know that the chip is able to do it.
- they thought they can make it work
Result...
- maybe reception is too bad because of design flaws (chip or antenna position) -> they decided not to offer it
- maybe the marketing gang thought a FM radio is nothing for a business phone...
Anyway... I would take it even with a bad reception, but I'm sure they will not offer it.
An internet radio is not allways a good solution. You need an unlimited data plan and also a good reception. I made bad experiences during train travel and also in areas with lower reception. It sucks...
I want a real radio, please
If the transistor which taks care for FM radio is phisicaly connected, so that can use headphones as the anttena, then it is possible to have FM radio on your phone. Here is some new stuff that XDA user mikereidis have discovered about TI WL 127x chip. Maybe some developer is interested.
Where is the FM radio in the X5? . In the description of the phone it is listed. Unfortunately I can not find anywhere this application.
Hardware supports fm radio, but there is no software to use it... Its a disinfomation...
porting FM?
I tried to upload an FM radio with HTC and Motorola, but unfortunately when I start the program is stopped. Maybe there is someone who will try to match any of the available online programs to support FM radio?
i hope someone can do it for us.after all the hardware support it.
the unlucky news is that huawei said they will not do it,so we must rely on the other people,like some people here.
FM files
The system files, I found the files to the FM radio, it seems that only lacks a program that would be handled.
Are someone working on getting the FM radio to work? I would really appreciate if someone made it possible!
Registering ALOT of interest in a FM radio
Tried few fm radio apps on cm6.1 alpha4, few from miui rom and one called spirit fm radio. Neither does work. Spirit fm puts out errors on logcat. Miui one dont put out so many errors, but it says that audio is routed to hdmi and mute is on.
But maybe there is hope
fm
I installed it FMRadio. Although radio is not working but the program is not interrupted (FC). When you receive the "FM working ...." select button "back". the menu works. Radio comes with ROM DroidX. This is the only program FMRadio that I managed to install. It is worth to work on it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?bnmwkeknol967ca
My dreams are coming true, i hope the community gets behind this!
I have not had proper FM for years.
I've installed the FMRadio.apk but when I launch it, it sits on "FM Radio is being launched, please wait..."
If i go 'Back' i can access the menu, select a frequency and even set a preset, but it doesn't play.
According to Huawei Norway the x5 does not have the hardware to support fm radio.
The phone seems to have FM radio (the kernel initializes the chip and sets audio routes for fm), but those apps from Moto/HTC etc phones are designed for either for TI or Broadcom chips so won't work. There's also the possibility that the chip antenna isn't connected to the headphone jack so even if everything else is there you won't be able to get reception.
I did a bit of searching and there is a Qualcomm FM radio app.. might be an idea for someone to build this and see what it can do (probably it won't work, but you never know).
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=platform/packages/apps/FM.git;a=tree
chould some work it out? i wilk wait!
Is anyone still still looking into this?
This is the one feature that the x5 is missing that would make it a killer phone for the price point.
No news with Radio?
take a look to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151928&page=3
Radio Fm
My x5 have radio and is ok
I have instal de "Free spirit FM.apk" and is ok
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Does Axon 7 have fm radio enabled?
I read here somewhere that it does have it in the SoC, but because of the circuit design the headphones can not be used as antenna (the sound chips are between the fm module and the hadphone port).
There is no FM Radio app on the device.
I downloaded the NextRadio app (I think that's what it's called?) and it said my hardware wasn't compatible. This is the same message I got on my 6P, which doesn't have a radio either.
According to this it should (http://www.gsm-specs.com/zte-axon-7/ in the media section) but like most said it doesn't look like it works natively will try to get it to work when i get it and tell you for sure I'm hopeful it will work but doubting it
The kernel source has it enabled
CONFIG_MEDIA_RADIO_SUPPORT=y and there is qcom.fmradio.jar in the framework folder
Still doesn't mean it's connected, would need to see dmesg from boot to see if it gates discovered or any modules for the radio get loaded
Sorry for bumping this buuut would it be possible to have a working FM radio?
With an altered kernel perhaps..?
Or let's just beg to ZTE to bring out Nougat with the FM radio feature not being disabled haha
Abiram26 said:
Sorry for bumping this buuut would it be possible to have a working FM radio?
With an altered kernel perhaps..?
Or let's just beg to ZTE to bring out Nougat with the FM radio feature not being disabled haha
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It's a hardware issue, not software.