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Broken Touchscreen

I bought an xv6700 with a broken touchscreen. The guy I bought it from said that it could be navigated decently with just the buttons. But before he gave it to me he hard reset it and now it is stuck on the screen saying "Tap the screen to set up your Windows Mobile based device." I tried pressing all the buttons and doing hard and soft resets, but nothing will get me past that screen. I don't really want to get a new digitizer because the guy who sold it had tried that already and it hadn't worked.
Anyone have any ideas to get past that first screen? Is there some way that I could access it through my PC and modify some file that would make it think that I had set it up already? (I flashed it with wm6 if that makes any difference.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

News Flash!!!
I figured out that if I hold in the action button and press the windows logo key, it will skip past the first screen. But now it's on the 'align screen' screen. There has got to be a key combination to skip past that too. So.... I'll keep pressing buttons.

i dont think its posible because it ask you to do a lot of touch programs after that
not to seem pesamistice but if it dosn't work out can i buy your talk end keys module

I have the same exact problem with my 6700.. (this was days before my contract with Verizon ended)
The touch screen stopped working and I thought a hard reset might fix it, but now i'm stuck at the Welcome screen..
I upgraded to the 6800/mogul and updated to No2Chem's 6.1 rom. I noticed that he removed the welcome center and it booted right to the today screen.
I will have to ask him how he removed it and find an Apache rom to modify.

Solution
1. Connect device to PC using Activesync.
2. In Activesync click explore.
3. Navigate to Windows/Startup
4. Delete the 'Welcome' file.
5. Reboot.
I downloaded a program called 'fake cursor' which lets you use the buttons to move a cursor on the screen. Most things can be done with just the buttons though.

I have the same problem. My PDA is HTC TyTN and I have WM6 installed. But I can't find any Startup folder. I've found welcom.exe and welcome.lnk, but they can not be deleted. Help to solve the "initial set-up" problem.

axissolutions said:
I have the same problem. My PDA is HTC TyTN and I have WM6 installed. But I can't find any Startup folder. I've found welcom.exe and welcome.lnk, but they can not be deleted. Help to solve the "initial set-up" problem.
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Same Prob here want to use the phone but no way to get past "tap the target firmly" "tap the screen to set up your windows mobile-based device" or and dont want to brick the phone by using a rom without unlocker think I saw somewhere you could use ceregeditor but tried deleting the welcome center in hkclassesroot and still does same thing

pmcculfor said:
1. Connect device to PC using Activesync.
2. In Activesync click explore.
3. Navigate to Windows/Startup
4. Delete the 'Welcome' file.
5. Reboot.
I downloaded a program called 'fake cursor' which lets you use the buttons to move a cursor on the screen. Most things can be done with just the buttons though.
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ps. are these instructions fpr wm 6 or 5?

Bump, what file to delete in what Registry to skip tap to setup?
Bump, what file to delete in what Registry section to skip tap to setup? 6.1 pretty please?!

pmcculfor said:
I figured out that if I hold in the action button and press the windows logo key, it will skip past the first screen. But now it's on the 'align screen' screen. There has got to be a key combination to skip past that too. So.... I'll keep pressing buttons.
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i have the same problem with my x1i pls which is the action button

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Hello,
Connect you phone to your PC with Activesync and browse.
create an empty text file and rename it "welcome.not"
Place it in the root of your phone storage and reboot.
It's magic !
It worked for me but now I have this problem : how to substitute the soft keys ???
Most of the menus ask for the "OK" or "Cancel" with the 2 soft keys on the screen... how to deal with that ??
Thanks for your replies

Touch screen damanged. Need to send SMS.

ANyone please help. My BA's Touchscreen is cracked and not functioning anymore. But for now i need to use it. When sending SMS i have to touch or press the Send button from the touch screen. But since my screen doesnt work anymore, is there a way like assigning the "Send" button into the hardware key?
Or is there any application that can do this? Anyone please help!
Thanks in advance!

hi
what do u mean cracked?there is a picture and there is no tap action?or there is no picture and response anymore?there is like damage in lcd like un usual colors and rabush and lines?because may be if u change the rom or re-upgrading the rom,may be the problem fixed,specially in minor problems.
i think u cannot send msgs without tap action.

there is a crack, display is okay, but touch response is not fuctioning well, the only thing i notice is that, when i press on the right bottom most of the screen, sometime touch works and sometimes not works. I been trying to do the Align screen method but doesnt work. i think it is the hardware problem.

if that sms is really that important to you, you can always connect the device to the pc and when connected to activesync a nice little freeware called "my mobiler" can be used to control the device with the pc's mouse and keyboard and gets the device's screen on your pc screen. it can be downloaded here:
http://www.mymobiler.com/
but after bypassing the problem for now, we should focus on getting the thing fixed. you could answer homam_france's questions to help us determine what exactly went wrong and maybe you don't need to bypass then anymore but can solve the problem!
EDIT: ignore the request for more information, you already answered while i was writing this

@Chef_Tony
Thank you, but that is what I am doing right now. But my problem is that when i am not in from of my pc and I need to send important sms? Maybe there is a software that can map the Send softkey to hardware key.
Thanks again!

you could try this program:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=21070
there is a trial version there, and if you can install, start and control that program without the use of the touch screen, or from your pc, maybe you can tell it to for example, map the left softkey with the mail hardware key or something like that, i haven't tested it. if that prog is not right, on the bottom of that page there is a link for related applications, maybe one of those helps you.
if, however, the remapping of the keys does not work, for a different sms application, you could try:
iwindowsmobile sms chat:
http://iwindowsmobile.com/threaded-sms-messaging.html
visual it simple sms:
http://www.visualit.co.uk/PocketPC/simplesms_V5.htm
or this one:
http://www.mobileflipper.com/mobile-tips/sms-application-for-windows-mobile-50-60-and-61/
maybe their way of hitting the send button is different and works for your device.
by the way, on any normal mobile phone, you can also send an sms by pressing the green call button, unfortunately, ppc phones don't do that.
greetz
Chef_Tony

Why don't you just go to Setting/Personal/Buttons and map a button to "<Left Softkey>"

Thanks to everyone
Thanks to you all. I finally got a chance to fix my touch screen. not bad at all. except that i forgot to right fit the volume hardware keys.

Be very careful with the Volume key, if you don't close the case wright, you might broke the switch (a little switch on the mainboard that is moved by the volume key). Just make shure it's in the wright place when closing the case

Hi to all.
What can I do in case the ba is working, the screen is perfect but no more touch? it's a os 5.2.1933(18533.0.7.0)
thanks

that can happen but it has probably nothing to do with the rom. it means that the digitizer is broken and you need to look for a new one, maybe a good ebay search or a post in xda's marketplace could help you

thanks 4 the reply. Do you mean a new lcd screen?

no, just the digitizer, it is the see through touch panel on top on the actual display, maybe you are lucky and find a cheap one, as you don't need a new screen.

you can buy a new digitizer on dealextreme.com, i recall a few months ago they were selling the digitizers for Blueangel devices, its very easy to disassemble the BA & replace it. Good luck.

BA Screen alignment settings at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH
Can any of the members pl. post the screen alignment settings available at Registry entry Screen alignment settings for BA and/or variants at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH
Value Name: CalibrationData
Value data:
? (5 sets of data)
Value type: REG_SZ
Value Name: MaxCalError
Value Data: ?
Base : Decimal
Value type: REG_DWORD
With these values most of the BA devices with defective touch screen can become functional to large extent.
Actually we can add the values to the BA Wiki
Regards

here's the CalibrationData:
17 154,258 154,788 865,785 859,262
i dont have a MaxCalError key.
Good luck,
dtd

Hi DTD,
Thanks for the prompt reply. Pl. verify the data provided by you as it doesnt seem to have the 5 sets for the CalibrationData values & repost correctly.
Thanks in advance
Regards

Touch screen delay after wake up

Don't know if its only me:
- Press END key (goes to standby)
- Press any key (wakes up)
- Quickly tap any icon --> Won't react
You need to wait about 1 second for touch screen to be enabled. No big deal but sometimes you are quick and this kind of "retards" your intention and forces you to do a 2nd tap.
Anyone?

pckshd said:
Don't know if its only me:
- Press END key (goes to standby)
- Press any key (wakes up)
- Quickly tap any icon --> Won't react
You need to wait about 1 second for touch screen to be enabled. No big deal but sometimes you are quick and this kind of "retards" your intention and forces you to do a 2nd tap.
Anyone?
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Works fine here. At least I need a second to reach the top of the screen.

here the same but you must be really quick

Yup, annoyes the hell out of me, unlock the phone and use my other thumb to slide to unlock, nothing happens, have to try again and it works.

I am getting that, but is not a show stopper for me. have you try to use the 3rd party locking screen app?

i use s2u2. same problem here. no unlocking in the first one or two seconds after wakeup... does the processor maybe take some time to speed up...?

I don't think its the processor because its actually fast. Must be some internal software delay, maybe the touch screen driver 'wake up'...

Similar problem existed in the HD, i have it, and i tried out a fix posted by one of the forum members, as follows:
1.Make a file named - "welcome.not" and place this in the root of your storage card.
2. Hard Reset your device.
3. You will not be asked the screen calibaration thing, and this will solve your problem.
(How to create "welcome.not" = open notepad on your computed, and safe the blank notepad file with double quotes as : "welcome.not"
This will make the extension of the file as .not
Hope this helps!

Insane Devil said:
2. Hard Reset your device.
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Did you mean reset? or clearing the storage

CLEAN STORAGE. (A hard reset, my friend!)

Before making a hard reset i would wait for maybe other fixes or something as i cant imagine that HDs and HD2s problems are the same... Also i didnt figure out this bug on my old HD, even without "welcome.not"...
You can even start the screen alignment whenever you want. So what happens if you do an alignment after applying your fix? Problem back again?
Last thing: I would not recommend a hard reset with your SD-Card in the device as it ruined all my data on it. At least backup all you stuff from the card somewhere on the PC and try this fix with an empty storage card.
EDIT: I completely forgot: there is no screen alignment taking place after a hard reset on the HD2

Insane Devil said:
CLEAN STORAGE. (A hard reset, my friend!)
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Well that's weird because I read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2139034&postcount=5 that it only needs a reboot and people confirmed it work that's why I was confused.

Insane Devil said:
Similar problem existed in the HD, i have it, and i tried out a fix posted by one of the forum members, as follows:
1.Make a file named - "welcome.not" and place this in the root of your storage card.
2. Hard Reset your device.
3. You will not be asked the screen calibaration thing, and this will solve your problem.
(How to create "welcome.not" = open notepad on your computed, and safe the blank notepad file with double quotes as : "welcome.not"
This will make the extension of the file as .not
Hope this helps!
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I posted an updated fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587931. If you don't want to hardreset, go into the registry and find HKLM\Hardware\DeviceMap\KEYBD and look for the entry "First Calibration." If it's there and the dword is 1 then change it to 0 and manually softreset. That achieves the same thing as bypassing screen alignment. Manually aligning the screen creates this entry, which is why if you use welcome.not and then later realign your screen, the problem comes back. To solve that you have to change the reg key again. I don't have an HD2 so I cannot confirm if the reg is there or if this would work on it, but it may be worth a try.
S3

dont have my hd2 here at the mom (repair) but would be excited about testers and answers. Just cant figure out how screen alignment and wakeup-delay go together...but the thread mentionend in post above makes me hope

on a german leo the key does not exist

jayjoe said:
on a german leo the key does not exist
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Neither in WWE Rom.
But there is a PassCalibration already with value 1.

Mines has the same problem, not very often but the problem is there. After wake up the tap just does not move or register my touch and because hd2 has such a large screen, they should have put the slide to the middle or at the bottom and not all the way to the top to slide unlock the phone.

@Skywatch:
For getting the slider on the bottom, search for Dusk lock screen in the HD Apps forum, and install that and u will get it on the bottom, it looks lovely! and I have 100% belief that it will work on the HD, as its the same OS and Screen resolution.
@All:
Regarding the Welcome.not, i read in the HD forum regarding the tweak, and it clearly said to HARD REST, or Re Flash your device and only then it will work. not with a soft reset.
This is to skip the Screen Calibration which happens after a Hard Reset and that has to be skipped.
if you have done this, and later you re align your screen, then the tweak will fall off its place. Another HardReset or ReFlash will be required.
No problems doing it with a mSD full of data as i have been flashing that way since past 4 years, without any problem. But, up to u!

pckshd said:
Neither in WWE Rom.
But there is a PassCalibration already with value 1.
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pckshd, what are the other key entries besides PassCalibration?

It is actually at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH\
Other values are AlignScreenNeeded=0, CalibrationData=287,479 57,96 57,864 518,864 518,96 and some more...
These values are from a fresh hardreset, never calibrated, and actually HD2 does not prompt for alignment. So I don't think the issue is related to calibration.
Delay still there

Strange calibrationData in registry after using "align screen" function.

Hello,
My touche screen is not working on my Samsung i900. I did try to do a "align Screen". This align screen procedure goes well. I can press the + and the pda is accepting the result.
The problem is that when this is done the screen is still not working. I can press any place on the screen and there is no reaction.
On the forum I have seen that there are recommendations to set the following values in the registery entry "calibrationData" --> 519,503 177,881 182,129 847,127 849,872
If I set these values the screen is still not working!
I did also check values I had after doing the "align screen" procedure and then the data save in the registry is the following: 517,2 159,-3 170,7 853,8 832,-4
As you can see the recommended data is completely different than what I get and I wondering if this is normal?
Recommended calibrationData:
519,503 177,881 182,129 847,127 849,872
My calibrationData:
517,2 159,-3 170,7 853,8 832,-4
Does anyone of you know how could I solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.

philipina said:
Hello,
My touche screen is not working on my Samsung i900. I did try to do a "align Screen". This align screen procedure goes well. I can press the + and the pda is accepting the result.
The problem is that when this is done the screen is still not working. I can press any place on the screen and there is no reaction.
On the forum I have seen that there are recommendations to set the following values in the registery entry "calibrationData" --> 519,503 177,881 182,129 847,127 849,872
If I set these values the screen is still not working!
I did also check values I had after doing the "align screen" procedure and then the data save in the registry is the following: 517,2 159,-3 170,7 853,8 832,-4
As you can see the recommended data is completely different than what I get and I wondering if this is normal?
Recommended calibrationData:
519,503 177,881 182,129 847,127 849,872
My calibrationData:
517,2 159,-3 170,7 853,8 832,-4
Does anyone of you know how could I solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
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nope, it's not normal at all.... at first sight it looks like a damaged touchscreen, it's like something is constantly pressing it somewhere in the very upper part.
Something similar happened once to a collegue of mine at office with her son's nintendo ds: solved replacing the touchscreen with a new one...

Thank you for your answer.
Yes, this is also what I start thinking of.
Yesterday I bought a new touch screen on ebay. I will keep you informed about the result.
To be able to continue using my Samsung, I would like to activate the mouse pointer and use it with the central button?
Do you know how can I do that whithout using the touch screen?
Thanks in advance.
Alain,

philipina said:
Thank you for your answer.
Yes, this is also what I start thinking of.
Yesterday I bought a new touch screen on ebay. I will keep you informed about the result.
To be able to continue using my Samsung, I would like to activate the mouse pointer and use it with the central button?
Do you know how can I do that whithout using the touch screen?
Thanks in advance.
Alain,
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I don't remember if it can be enabled via registry, but you could try taking a look in
hklm/system/state/samsung/mouse
and see if there's something to enable it... would like to be more precise about it, but without an i900 in my hands I can't check the exact registry entry

Have I Completely Screwed Up My Phone?

So I was reading this page on a registry tweak from pocketnow.com that could help reduce the pressure you place on your touchscreen, apparently. It is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel Value=PressureThreshold
I changed the number to 34 in decimal, which I think I misread and now should have changed to 240, but what can you do (in case anyone is curious, DON'T try this tweak unless you want to risk losing your phone data. It doesn't take effect until restart, at which point you might be screwed).
So I applied the tweak without restarting, and then at one point my phone froze, so I soft reset it. My phone came up as usual, and because I use Chobit's SmartLock, I think it locks on boot up (Windows Mobile 6.5 doesn't do so by default, does it?).
Herein lies the problem: you need to slide across the screen to unlock, but upon reboot, my touchscreen is basically non-responsive.
I've tried using desktop Windows Mobile registry editors, but they require ActiveSync running, which can't happen on my phone because the touchscreen isn't working for me to select "ActiveSync" rather than "Removable Disk" to which it defaults. I think SmartLock is getting in the way here too, as . I've removed my storage card, but the same prompt still comes up, making me unable to use ActiveSync. Is there some way to force ActiveSync without this prompt? I think then at least I could edit the registry and remove this tweak. I can't even use something like MyMobiler or CERegEditor, because they require, you guessed it...ActiveSync.
Is there any way to save my phone and data other than a hard reset? I do have access to the Storage Card, so is there anyway to run a program from there like people 'unroot' their phones? Is there perhaps a set of soft key presses that can run the screen calibration program?
EDIT: Ended up hard resetting because I couldn't figure out how to get around the lock screen. Oh well!

yummybunny said:
So I was reading this page on a registry tweak from pocketnow.com that could help reduce the pressure you place on your touchscreen, apparently. It is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel Value=PressureThreshold
I changed the number to 34 in decimal, which I think I misread and now should have changed to 240, but what can you do (in case anyone is curious, DON'T try this tweak unless you want to risk losing your phone data. It doesn't take effect until restart, at which point you might be screwed).
So I applied the tweak without restarting, and then at one point my phone froze, so I soft reset it. My phone came up as usual, and because I use Chobit's SmartLock, I think it locks on boot up (Windows Mobile 6.5 doesn't do so by default, does it?).
Herein lies the problem: you need to slide across the screen to unlock, but upon reboot, my touchscreen is basically non-responsive.
I've tried using desktop Windows Mobile registry editors, but they require ActiveSync running, which can't happen on my phone because the touchscreen isn't working for me to select "ActiveSync" rather than "Removable Disk" to which it defaults. I think SmartLock is getting in the way here too, as . I've removed my storage card, but the same prompt still comes up, making me unable to use ActiveSync. Is there some way to force ActiveSync without this prompt? I think then at least I could edit the registry and remove this tweak. I can't even use something like MyMobiler or CERegEditor, because they require, you guessed it...ActiveSync.
Is there any way to save my phone and data other than a hard reset? I do have access to the Storage Card, so is there anyway to run a program from there like people 'unroot' their phones? Is there perhaps a set of soft key presses that can run the screen calibration program?
EDIT: Ended up hard resetting because I couldn't figure out how to get around the lock screen. Oh well!
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You could have used the d-pad to scroll to AS from Storage and then press the center button "enter".

for next time... search for "i-tweak sensitivity"
it has two registry edits... the difference is amazing! Its a must do for me no matter what phone i use.