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Anyone at Goggle I/O that can ask the important questions?

With the release of the limited edition, I'm a little left in the dark about what was said and seen earlier year. Anyone at Goggle I/O that can get some answers would be great.
1. Will the production edition be released with any SD card (mircoSD, SD, etc) or USB (standard USB, Micro USB) support? None are available on the limited edition.
2. We see the limited edition released with the Tegra2? Will the standard GT10 have the Tegra2 or another CPU?

unknown_owner said:
I remember a presentation earlier in the year that said the screen would be a PLS screen. Reports are coming that the limited edition is just a LCD screen.
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This is the second post I've seen mentioning this. A PLS screen IS an LCD screen. I'm not sure I follow the concern, unless you're referring to something that specifically referred to it as NOT bing PLS, or being plain old TFT, or something like that.

Ok, I see that there is a TFT LCD and a PLS LCD (IPS type). I have removed that question.

PLS is a type of LCD TFT screen. For more information - use Wikipedia.

unknown_owner said:
Ok, then so LCD = PLS screen?
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No, but PLS = LCD. PLS is a sub-type of an IPS screen, which is a type of LCD screen. And no, the Zoom doesn't have a PLS screen. PLS is a Saumsung technology. I don't believe the Zoom is even IPS. I think it's just plain old TFT (perhaps TN?).

No one seems to have an answer for the SD or USB debate. I thought I wait for this but I think its time to just get a xoom.

From what I heard here at IO, the only limited thing about the tablet is the back. Samsung is expecting to go to market with the current hardware specs including no SD card and no USB.
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oxeneers said:
from what i heard here at io, the only limited thing about the tablet is the back. Samsung is expecting to go to market with the current hardware specs including no sd card and no usb.
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nnnnooooooo

This would be a severe dissapointment i had my heart set on a galaxy tablet but if no sd card is the case then its time to look at other options. Has there been any news lately about the new toshiba tablet

Wdustin1 said:
This would be a severe dissapointment i had my heart set on a galaxy tablet but if no sd card is the case then its time to look at other options. Has there been any news lately about the new toshiba tablet
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Yeah it can run TV apps. I think if the 10.1 is such a disappointment then I'm heading straight to the Asus.

I'm definitely in the same camp. It doesn't make sense to me to release a tablet at this point without an SD slot.. This just seems like a huge omission. I may have to set up some alerts on nowinstock.net alerts for the ASUS..

just out of curiosity guys, what do u store in ur devices that requires more than 16gb? The way I see it, it suffice my everyday use and discipline me to manage my files.

Well I am looking to store my whole music on my tab
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music and movies. this is gonna be primarily an entertainment device for me, so being able to cart around a couple SD cards and load whatever I want on the tab is pretty much paramount..

Well my dreams of a microSD version of the GT10 is gone.

you can store 20,000 songs on the new google music so thats not an issue

new review list the screen as TFT not PLS.
androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-special-edition-20110511/

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Well I am looking to store my whole music on my tab
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That's not going to happen for me any time soon.
Close to 300GB of music
And, yes I do own most of it in CD.

personally can't see the need to store tonnes of media directly on my tablet all of the time, got around 5Tb shared over wifi at home and i'm never away from home long enough to need more than a decent (couple of gig) music play list and a couple hours of video on my portable at any one time.

unknown_owner said:
new review list the screen as TFT not PLS.
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But there's no way that's a "plain jane" TN TFT, because they show pictures of it at some fairly extreme angles, and it holds the image quality fine. We can't tell if it's PLS, but PLS is essentially a type of IPS, and IPS is essentially a type of TFT, which is a type of LCD. Even if it's "just" IPS, IPS is still good... that's what's on the Ipad2, and on the Transformer. Based on those pictures, I'd say it's at least IPS. From what I've read, it sounds like PLS is only marginally better than most other IPS panels. But it's also cheaper to make, so it's in Samsung's interest to use a PLS screen, if they have PLS screens of that size ready.
In the end, I wouldn't worry about it... the pictures speak for themselves. It holds its image quality even at wide angles, regardless of the letters used to describe the panel.

A100 Build Quality

How does the A100 feel compared to the A500 in the hand? Obviously lighter, but quality wise.

Quite nice actually. I have both, would say that the A100 is as nicely built as the A500. The plastic back feels solid, and the swoopy design on the back is pretty subtle. The power button is bigger and feels more solid. The volume rocker is as sorry as the A500. I swear it takes better photos too. The screen is fine, viewing angles at any angle I would ever use are OK. It's the worst looking at the bottom edge at like an 80 degree angle, and who does that? It also seems more evenly lit the the A500. Overall, I love the little thing. I don't carry the big one for work anymore.
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How about the screen? I'm worried it'll be too skinny. When reading some PDFs or Kindle books I find the formatting of pics/diagrams easier to view in the "tall" orientation as opposed to "wide". I was worried the 7" might seem too pinched, otherwise the size is a blessing. 10 is just too big for the way I use it. iphone is too small and 10" is too big, so I'm thinking 7 will be the sweet spot.

sweet spot
Whooweee I wanna one if there is a sweet spot.OK seriously I think the 7 inch one would fit in better.fit in my purse. But I will have to wait for price to go down

Mde me realize I hadn't tried the Nook application on this thing yet. Fired it up with the default font, Looks fine in portrait mode, it's about the same as a paperback book. The chapter art and text don't feel pinched the all. I like it better than the 2 page landscape mode. It's too small for that. I'm giving it a thumbs up as an e-reader. I also got tired of the 10.1 inch monster. It's relegated to the living room laptop role. The A100 looks less silly using it to read at lunch than the half a laptop.
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I shall join the ranks of the Legio A100 this Thursday!

erica_renee said:
Whooweee I wanna one if there is a sweet spot.OK seriously I think the 7 inch one would fit in better.fit in my purse. But I will have to wait for price to go down
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I got mine from walmart.com for $328 plus a $50 gift card. Not too bad. Unsure if the deal is still on though...
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reverendbill said:
I got mine from walmart.com for $328 plus a $50 gift card. Not too bad. Unsure if the deal is still on though...
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The gift card deal has expired on both the A500 & A100 even though it still says so on the web site untill you read the details and it gives the dates. $328 for the 8 gb wish they had the 16 gb.
I imagine this will be fixed but the Kindle app on the A100 (HC 3.2) FC's when you open a book. It doesn't do this on the A500 (HC 3.1)
I currently both and have to give one of them up. I still can't decide which one I want to keep. The A100 is much easier to hold and carry. Also HC 3.2 is suppose to scale better too. I find thing are small on the A100 but can pinch & zoom so I can read it better. I think a lot depends on what you want use it for.
Don't think you could go wrong with either one, they both have their good and not so good points.

I've got both too. Keeping them. Probably shouldn't. Didn't know Kindle didn't work. I Had an original Nook, so I usually buy books from them, that app works fine. I oddly have more problems with tablet specific apps than phone apps. Just checked my 3.2 updated A500. Kindle works fine. Weird.
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I might pass the A500 off to the g/f, depends on what I can get for it. The A100 is basically a mini clone though right? Reading stuff online it has the USB, micro-SD, micro-HDMI and all that. How about the GPS? Any of you owners note issues like some had with the A500(slow to lock etc)

I have a samsung charge, all samsungs have crap GPS. Used to slow. I used the A500s once, seemed ok. Haven't tried the A100s yet. It really is a shrunk down A500. Can't wait for custom ROMS/kernels to really pimp it out.
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reverendbill said:
I have a samsung charge, all samsungs have crap GPS. Used to slow. I used the A500s once, seemed ok. Haven't tried the A100s yet. It really is a shrunk down A500. Can't wait for custom ROMS/kernels to really pimp it out.
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Yea, it'll be interesting to see the battery life once it's got some OC/UV love. I crank my A500 way down to 600Mhz when I'm just reading PDFs or ebooks.

A100 doesn't have the full USB option so no connecting flash drive or keyboard. I have both the a100 and a500. I love them both. People complain of viewing angles but for me its no problem. I love how the a100 fits in my glove compartment and motorcycle tank bag.
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killerapl said:
A100 doesn't have the full USB option so no connecting flash drive or keyboard. I have both the a100 and a500. I love them both. People complain of viewing angles but for me its no problem. I love how the a100 fits in my glove compartment and motorcycle tank bag.
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I came to the A500 from a Viewsonic G Tab, that had bad viewing angles. Not impossible, but certainly not as good as an iphone or even the A500. I'm about to go pick up my A100 at Walmart, can't wait to come home and unbox it. I haven't seen a Kindle update claiming to fix the A100 problems. Has their been any OTA for the A100 that claims to fix them?

Just got a Kindle update, works now!
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Amazon just delivered my A100 yesterday. So far, so good, but HoneyComb is going to take some getting used to.

Nothing wrong with the A100 for the price you can get one at. A true Honeycomb 3.2 tablet with a 1024 x 600 screen for just a little over the $249 Nook Color that struggles with honeycomb, and much less than the $499 HTC Flyer that only has one "extra" feature over the A100. And that'll cost you an additional $70 for the stylus required to use it.
I've posted my review of the A100 on my blog.
LINK.

7" Android 4.0.3 (ICS), 8gb, capacitive IPS screen, $129.99

I bought another tablet from this seller awhile ago (see the review here) and when I wanted to order another one for my wife, I was told they were out but getting a new, and improved model. They emailed and let me place the order of off the old link and the new tablet I just got is AWESOME!!! My wife is getting the old one - lol.
Android 4.0.3, pre-rooted, aluminum case, screen you can view from pretty much any angle, 8gb storage, 512mb RAM, mini HDMI out, charges via USB and the included proprietary charger (USB is a bit slower, but works. This is huge for me so I can use it with one of the many external portable battery chargers I have), USB host cable included (works perfectly with my Oyen 750gb portable hard drive). This thing is the sh!t!!
Installed the patched hulu and netflix apps from XDA and both work great! Overclocks to 1.4GHz no prob (faster will crash it) UPDATE: seems 1.2 is the most stable speed, but it's still the best bang for the buck I've found. I have a few tablets (xoom, coby, and a few other generic tablets) and this one is my new favorite.
Here's the link to the listing for the new tablet (I told them I would pass it on and they gave me $5 back - great company): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TQP7L0/ref=sc_pgp__m_A76FR6O1NBAXV_1?ie=UTF8&m=A76FR6O1NBAXV&n=&s=&v=glance
If anyone finds any cool ROMS for this let me know (not sure if there'd be any out for it yet though, I haven't found any)
Video of it running Netflix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEGNzPS1udA
Short video review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EngX0djMZPA

does the tablet play nice with market apps? any videos of this bad boy in action?

Came with Google Play store installed and I haven't had any issues installing apps. I'll try to get a video done tonight and maybe some pics too.

AspenMan said:
Came with Google Play store installed and I haven't had any issues installing apps. I'll try to get a video done tonight and maybe some pics too.
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Excellent! Thinking about buying two
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Here's a vid of it running Netflix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEGNzPS1udA
Do you happen to know how to imbed youtube vids in posts? I couldn't get it to work.

AspenMan said:
Here's a vid of it running Netflix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEGNzPS1udA
Do you happen to know how to imbed youtube vids in posts? I couldn't get it to work.
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I checked both videos out. Thanks for the review..I will give it a go..trying to decide between this and the aurora.
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I'm not trying to hate but why not just pay 150-180 and get a touchpad
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really slow response time on screen shifts

pwnerman said:
I'm not trying to hate but why not just pay 150-180 and get a touchpad
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Cuz I don't wanna! you give me the extra 30-50 dollars and it's a deal!
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Not bad, but a pretty low res screen for a tablet 800x480. Besides for that the rest of the hardware isnt bad for that price, has decent expandability options and comes pre rooted.

How can the response times be any slower on the touchpad then this and after a few more updates to ics its gonna prob fix those.
I just think the advantages the touchpad has from the gig of ram to the screen size and resolution make it worth the extra 30 bucks lol
Plus it has another 8 gigs of storage
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pwnerman said:
I'm not trying to hate but why not just pay 150-180 and get a touchpad
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Where can I get a TP for that cheap? Cheapest I have ever seen was 200 for a 16gb
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xopher.hunter said:
Where can I get a TP for that cheap? Cheapest I have ever seen was 200 for a 16gb
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go to the xda marketplace and if people arent trying to get to much then you will get them in the high 100's
i only paid 175 for mine and it included the touchstone charger and some cases

pwnerman said:
How can the response times be any slower on the touchpad then this and after a few more updates to ics its gonna prob fix those.
I just think the advantages the touchpad has from the gig of ram to the screen size and resolution make it worth the extra 30 bucks lol
Plus it has another 8 gigs of storage
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If you were referring to my post I meant the tablet the OP posted has really slow response time when he shifted the tab and the screen took about 5 seconds to respond to the change

Sparkz914 said:
really slow response time on screen shifts
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It was slow because I was holding it flat, facing up towards the camera. It's super snappy when holding it in front of you in a normal position. Almost flat on it's back isn't the best way to get the screen rotation to respond...

xopher.hunter said:
Where can I get a TP for that cheap? Cheapest I have ever seen was 200 for a 16gb
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Craigslist.
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Pocket Android SMART TV

So who's going to get one of these bad boys??
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/484889112/the-pocket-tv-makes-any-tv-a-smart-tv
They look pretty sweet. Especially those air remotes. If I wasn't broke atm I'd jump in on this kickstarter deal. I travel a lot and it'd be awesome to have one of these to plug in wherever I went.

yeah that is awesome!

Well, this is nothing new. There's already the FXI CottonCandy, and a Chinese equivalent that is slight less powerful in specs. The main differences between this and the CottonCandy: it uses the exynos 4 dual processor (same one as in the GS2), and also includes a full size male USB 2.0, so a computer can also boot from it as well. That little piece of awesomeness goes for 199. This one though has that nice air remote. Wonder how much this one costs...
FYI, I fully believe that these thumb drive Androids are going to take off very soon...the market is very young, but they are so versatile.
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squshy 7 said:
Wonder how much this one costs...
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Prices here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/484889112/the-pocket-tv-makes-any-tv-a-smart-tv

Comparisons to Wacom tablet

Hi there I'm thinking of getting a galaxy note 10.1 to maybe enhance my digital art, can't afford to buy a critiq as it's way more than I can afford and when I saw this tablet I just knew I wanted one.
I'm used to using a Wacom tablet but it has to be connected to my laptop and a tablet seems like a great way to do paintings outside without the hassle of bringing an extra laptop.
How would you compare it to a Wacom and is it as easy to use and is the pressure sensitive pen as good as the pens that come with Wacom tablets.
I've seen reviews about the galaxy 10.1 but they were by phone and tablet reviewers that didn't really do any art and just talked about the specifications and benchmarks and the hardware.
I was either thinking of getting this tablet and having to save more to buy it or buy a cheaper tablet and get a dagi stylus.
What are your views?
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I guess nobody wants to help.
Very helpful in here I can see.
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This is a tech forum, not artistic and there is information in the forum if youlook...
The wacom pens work on the note 10.1 and it has a wacom digitiser. I have had no problems and find the pen quite good with different levels of pressure sensitivity, but I'm no artist...
There have been mixed reviews and threads about problems with the s-pen but I can't say I have had any. The best bet would be to go to a store and try it out... Just remember that the store demo's are used and abused by the public so allow for that...

ultramag69 said:
This is a tech forum, not artistic and there is information in the forum if youlook...
The wacom pens work on the note 10.1 and it has a wacom digitiser. I have had no problems and find the pen quite good with different levels of pressure sensitivity, but I'm no artist...
There have been mixed reviews and threads about problems with the s-pen but I can't say I have had any. The best bet would be to go to a store and try it out... Just remember that the store demo's are used and abused by the public so allow for that...
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Thanks thought this was a general forum for everything related to galaxy note 10.1 I'll use this forum when I get one for rooting and stuff.
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It is the general forum and you can ask talk about anything you want but that doesn't mean people will answer... As I said, I'm no artist, I have a 2 year old nephew that can draw stick figures better than me :silly:, but people don't always have the time or inclination to answer all the time....

As I'm an artist, but don't have a Note, I would like you to report your findings here when you have tried the note
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Post Your Note 10.1 Designs/Sketches
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Your best bet would be to ask in here
Theres a fair amount of drawings in there, progresively gets better some very good artists showcasing their drawings......you might get a better idea just perusing that thread

koningjim said:
As I'm an artist, but don't have a Note, I would like you to report your findings here when you have tried the note
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I will when I get one, got some art I did on my Wacom tablet on my profile, hopefully it will be an easy transition to the galaxy note 10.1
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banderos101 said:
Post Your Note 10.1 Designs/Sketches
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Your best bet would be to ask in here
Theres a fair amount of drawings in there, progresively gets better some very good artists showcasing their drawings......you might get a better idea just perusing that thread
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Thanks I'll take a look
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Samsungnooby said:
I will when I get one, got some art I did on my Wacom tablet on my profile, hopefully it will be an easy transition to the galaxy note 10.1
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I did the same thing, transitioned from a wacom tablet/desktop set up to the note 10.1 it's really amazing and has got me drawing all the time again!!!! It's easy to sketch even in broad daylight and the battery lasts about 10 hours. This also was a compromise for the cintiq...which I also can't afford, I'm glad I did it.
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aletheus said:
I did the same thing, transitioned from a wacom tablet/desktop set up to the note 10.1 it's really amazing and has got me drawing all the time again!!!! It's easy to sketch even in broad daylight and the battery lasts about 10 hours. This also was a compromise for the cintiq...which I also can't afford, I'm glad I did it.
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Thank you, it makes my decision of buying the 10.1 easier now
Now to do some saving up
Any chance of a screen shot of your work?
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Samsungnooby said:
Thank you, it makes my decision of buying the 10.1 easier now
Now to do some saving up
Any chance of a screen shot of your work?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Here's a thread where people are posting their work. So you can see more than just mine. ;-P
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aletheus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
Here's a thread where people are posting their work. So you can see more than just mine. ;-P
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Wow cool I like your work, very original.
Hopefully when I get the 10.1 it will inspire me and motivate me to do more and maybe one day make some money from it as there are sites where people buy original digital art.
It will also give me the freedom to take it anywhere and just sketch if I want to and maybe post a few of my paintings there
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I have an Intuos 3 on my PC at home. I haven't used it extensively (my dad passed it on to me), but I have used it here and there.
Having just gotten my Note 10.1, I can say it's basically the exact same feel and functionality. The difference being that (like the Cintiq) you're drawing right on the screen - which I find much easier.

Cool can't wait to get mine as I've been wanting a good tablet, I've only got the Wacom cth-460 bamboo pen and touch.
It's okay but want to do more
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I've been waffling over getting a tablet for a while now. But when I read about the functionality of the Note 10.1 I was sold. Part of the reason I don't use my Intuos very often is because I have a hard time with the disconnect between looking at the screen on my desk while drawing on the tablet on my lap (or keyboard tray). Even with the cursor displaying where my stylus is, I find it hard to draw.
Interestingly I've never had issues with using a mouse, nor keyboard, and I'm an avid PC gamer. Just something about drawing with a stylus that doesn't work for me on a typical PC setup.
On the Note 10.1, it's like drawing on paper (as far as the brain-to-hand connection goes).

saltorio said:
I've been waffling over getting a tablet for a while now. But when I read about the functionality of the Note 10.1 I was sold. Part of the reason I don't use my Intuos very often is because I have a hard time with the disconnect between looking at the screen on my desk while drawing on the tablet on my lap (or keyboard tray). Even with the cursor displaying where my stylus is, I find it hard to draw.
Interestingly I've never had issues with using a mouse, nor keyboard, and I'm an avid PC gamer. Just something about drawing with a stylus that doesn't work for me on a typical PC setup.
On the Note 10.1, it's like drawing on paper (as far as the brain-to-hand connection goes).
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Same here, you have to have pretty good hand to eye coordinating to even produce anything on a wacom tablet and it takes some getting used to.
I like the idea of the 10.1 as it's like painting without the hassle of buying paints and canvas plus the resson I love digital art the most is I'm colour blind and found tablets easier to paint with.
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saltorio said:
I've been waffling over getting a tablet for a while now. But when I read about the functionality of the Note 10.1 I was sold. Part of the reason I don't use my Intuos very often is because I have a hard time with the disconnect between looking at the screen on my desk while drawing on the tablet on my lap (or keyboard tray). Even with the cursor displaying where my stylus is, I find it hard to draw.
Interestingly I've never had issues with using a mouse, nor keyboard, and I'm an avid PC gamer. Just something about drawing with a stylus that doesn't work for me on a typical PC setup.
On the Note 10.1, it's like drawing on paper (as far as the brain-to-hand connection goes).
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Strange, my drawing and painting studio core made us learn to divorce the hand from the eye... "If you're not looking at your model, then you're making it up." was what I always learned... I figured that's why wacom went ahead with screen-less tablets, they figured artists could handle it. =D
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aletheus said:
Strange, my drawing and painting studio core made us learn to divorce the hand from the eye... "If you're not looking at your model, then you're making it up." was what I always learned... I figured that's why wacom went ahead with screen-less tablets, they figured artists could handle it. =D
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LOL. Makes sense. I just never took an art class (beyond grade 10). Kind of funny now that I think about it, having worked as a graphic designer for 9 years.

I think the main compromise going between my Intuos and Note 10.1 is not hardware related, but software. There isn't any software that I know of in Android that can easily handle a large PSD file along with my various adjustment layers. But, for those projects, I shrink or flatten a copy before I work on it on the tablet. Aside from that, the only thing it seems to be missing is tilt sensitivity, which I'm not quite good enough to perceive anyway.