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[Q] Completed my first ever root + lagfix; have some questions!

After having the Vibrant for a few weeks I simply got fed up with the sluggish UI always lagging, having hiccups and all the latter. I know the phone is better than this (how can my old MyTouch Slide be performing way better?) so I went ahead and rooted.
Before this I would come on XDA and be overwhelmed by the development forums. The terms were so foreign like it's own language. Now I'm getting used to it and can root a Vibrant in under a minute. Very simple procedure.
My first real problem came with the lagfix. At first I could not get RyanZA's fix to work. I thought maybe I did something wrong or my device was faulty. So I tried the update.zip method and it didn't work either. I reset my phone to factory settings, re-rooted, and would come back to the lagfix later.
I came back to the forums today and decided I would try the lagfix again. This time I was more calm and was less overwhelmed thank god. The reason it didn't work the first time was because I didn't have the drivers installed. I went ahead and installed those, as well as Kies (this isn't needed for the lagfix though). After installing the drivers the script worked perfectly. However the script only worked if the phone wasn't mounted, if it was the script would not work, kinda odd but its alright with me lol.
I quickly rebooted and ran quadrant, scored a 2140 baby! Whoooo. There is almost no lag on my phone now. This was my biggest concern was how the phone was so sluggish, now everything is instant and snappy. Really happy with the development of this thing. I feel accomplished now haha.
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Any how, I'm still very new to the development scene and have some questions.
What is a kernel? How is it different from a rom? Is it good to overclock?
What is ODIN and what does it do? What is ADB? Someone told me to input something in ADB but I don't know what it is.
Also how can you overclock a phone to run at 1.2ghz if the hardware was designed at 1ghz? Can't this make the phone blow up? (no sarcasm)
Now that I've rooted now do I remove the bloatware on the phone? I don't want to install any roms yet until cyanogen or another rom comes out that is easier to install and less harmful to the phone.
Thanks in advance!

Arcadia310 said:
I came back to the forums today and decided I would try the lagfix again. This time I was more calm and was less overwhelmed thank god. The reason it didn't work the first time was because I didn't have the drivers installed. I went ahead and installed those, as well as Kies (this isn't needed for the lagfix though). After installing the drivers the script worked perfectly. However the script only worked if the phone wasn't mounted, if it was the script would not work, kinda odd but its alright with me lol.
It's not odd at all that the fix doesn't work if the memory is mounted. Think of the memory as a cd, it cannot be accessible to 2 machines at the same time. If the memory is mounted/accessible on your pc, that means the phone itself cannot access it and the fix uses that memory so it makes perfect sense for it to be NOT mounted.
I quickly rebooted and ran quadrant, scored a 2140 baby! Whoooo. There is almost no lag on my phone now. This was my biggest concern was how the phone was so sluggish, now everything is instant and snappy. Really happy with the development of this thing. I feel accomplished now haha.
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Any how, I'm still very new to the development scene and have some questions.
What is a kernel? How is it different from a rom? Is it good to overclock?
A kernel is the core of the OS, it is the main part. Overclocking should not be a problem if you run tests(setcpu burnin or something else)to make sure the phone does not freeze.
What is ODIN and what does it do? What is ADB? Someone told me to input something in ADB but I don't know what it is.
ODIN is a software written by samsung that is used to reflash the firmware/ROM on the phone.
ADB(Android developer bridge)is basically a program which let's you copy and retrieve software onto your phone using the CLI, also it let's you run cli commands on the phone from your computer(much more convenient). ADB is part of the google developers package which can be downloaded from Google fro free.
Also how can you overclock a phone to run at 1.2ghz if the hardware was designed at 1ghz? Can't this make the phone blow up? (no sarcasm)
The phone will not blow up, if the overclocking frequency is higher then what the phone can handle 99 out of 100 times it will just freeze with no permanent damage. A phone's enemy is high heat, not overclocking, eventhough some overclocking causes temperatures to increase.
Now that I've rooted now do I remove the bloatware on the phone? I don't want to install any roms yet until cyanogen or another rom comes out that is easier to install and less harmful to the phone.
Removing bloatware can be done by installing "ASTRO" from the market which will let you uninstall system apps. Some are easy to recognize and some are not. If you are not sure what an app is/does do not remove it.
Thanks in advance!
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WTF....text inside quotes doesn't count

Read the stickied post. 90% of the questions you're asking are answered there.

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If ODIN was created by samsung why is it so hard to connect it to your phone?

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I downloaded Astro. For some reason I can't even find the .apk file to uninstall the Sims. I tried to uninstall apps like Kindle and Slacker and it wouldn't let me. I thought having superuser permissions would allow me to remove any app from the phone?

Use titanium back up to remove those apps.
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robavila721 said:
Use titanium back up to remove those apps.
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Thanks! That app worked! I removed a crap ton of bloatware. Only problem now is that I get a force close error when the phone boots up from an app I removed, how do I regulate which apps open when the phone is turned on?
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some issues that are bugging me...need your input

hey guys. i'm a very nitpicky person and there has been a few "issues" that have been ticking at me lately. i wanted to ask to see if it's an issue with my rom (OMJ v3.1 odex) or just general issues with the phone that I have to live with.
1) for a 1ghz phone, it takes FOREVER to load. i'm usually anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds on the splash screen, after which the boot animation plays and maybe 10-15 seconds after the animation ends the phone starts to load....but it goes into the lock screen, and i have to unlock it, and then a million things start opening up, so that from screen off to fully loaded and ready to make a phone call the phone takes at least 1 minute, sometimes close to 2 minutes.
EDIT: just timed it - 45 seconds on splash screen, 25 seconds from end of boot animation to lock screen
i'm coming from a 667mhz WM6.1 phone that would boot, animation and all, be ready to call in 30 seconds or less.
i can live with the time it takes to load if it was normal...but then I hear things on here on how the evo loads in 8 seconds and i'm looking at mine and wondering what's wrong
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
2) when the phone loads it always opens the dialer. i go back into home screen. throughout the day at least once or twice the dialer will randomly open on its own when i unlock my screen.
3) wi-fi at home is secured through wep2...but at school is unsecured to connect, but then you need to authenticate through the browser. sometimes this works, sometimes the browser (dolphin hd) just stays loading and doesnt take me to the authetication page...and the only way around is it to disable and enable wifi again. then everything is perfect.
is this a rom issue? or a dolphin hd issue?
4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
5) perhaps the most important issue - i have problems downloading and installing certain apps in the market. I paid for lcd density changer and installed it. uninstalled it later on. now i'm trying to reinstall and I keep getting an installation unsuccesful message...same thing goes for Rom Manager (which i have installed, but installation unsuccessful with update), and many others. Some programs will update, some wont. Today I tried to download 3d gallery through the market and keep getting that issue.
this has happened with other programs in the past, where I thought maybe they werent meant for the EVO...but many of those had comments from EVO users??? and now some of those programs that wont install are programs I HAD or I HAVE installed!!!
is this a rom specific issue? or a market issue? or an odex issue? or does it have anything to do with having app2sd and move2sd enabler on the phone? none of the programs in question have been moved to the sd card...obviously not the ones like 3d gallery that I haven't yet installed.
so, thank you for reading through all that. any help in either of the issues will be greatly appreciated.
if most of the issues are rom-related i will go hunting for a new, stable rom. if they're general woes that come with owning the Evo then I guess i need to know that too.
thanks in advance!

I can't really help you much in terms of a solution, but coming from a Blackberry the EVO boot time seems very fast! However, the EVO is definitely not an 8 second loader, I don't know where you got that information.
is this a rom issue (OMJ v3.1 odex), kernel issue (king's #6), android (2.2), phone in general, or a result of all the different things we install on our phones (adblockers, superuser, custom flash, custom boot, etc)?
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This is just a guess, but I'd say it's the ROM you're using. Have you tried anything else? Make a nandroid backup of your phone now, then flash another ROM and test it out, it's easy to revert with the nandroid backup. Keep in mind the first time you load any newly flashed ROM it will take longer than normal to boot.
In my experience, stock 2.2 and all its OTA updates (and the ROM I use that is based on the latest OTA) are pretty good when it comes to boot times. Anything you install may have the potential to slow things down.
I'm currently using the VaelPak 2.2 ROM with the latest HTC kernel (no 30FPS limitation) which is very stable and very fast. VaelPak stripped out some of sense (not all) and I love how you have the choice between HTC/Sense elements or AOSP. For example, I actually like the HTC dialer, messaging, and contacts.

thanks.
i guess i'm going to have to flash a new rom...but it'll have to wait till next week!
i'll look into the different roms but i had thought of flashing CM6 since I'm not using any sense other than the dialer as far as i know
thanks
any other opinions are welcome!

Max_Pain said:
4) I have LauncherProPlus with their custom icons from the website. whenever i restart the phone the icons for Dolphin HD, Documents to Go, MixZing and Pandora change to their standard icons. i have to restart launcherpro and they go to the matching icons i have throughout the homescreens. then at random points those three icons revert back to the stock icons, and i have to restart launcher pro.
is this a LP problem, a rom problem, or a me-specific problem?
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Are all of those apps saved on your SD Card? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

yes all four apps are in the sd card. i was using pandora and plugged the phone in to my pc to try to install that 3dgallerym.apk i found on here. pandora stopped (i'm assuming as the sd card was unmounted). after unplugging and the card was remounted i was able to open pandora again...but then the 4 icons had reverted again.
i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.

Max_Pain said:
i'm starting to think that is a lp issue. i'll send a message to the developer see what he says about it.
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FYI they have their own forum. You should see if it has already been answered there.
http://www.launcherpro.com/forum/

The boot up taking so long is do to custom roms being deodexed.. It puts the odex file into the apks so that you can theme a rom without any problems. Stock roms arent deodexed so they boot up a lot faster. Its the only downside to deodexing a rom.
Also you should try to start fresh.. wipe data and dalvik and reboot. Then see if you have a problems with downloading and stuff. It might be cache left on the phone messing it up. If a clean data/dalvik wipe doesnt fix your problems then its most likely the rom or user error. Try a different rom for couple weeks and see if you come across the same problems.

My rom is odexed...
Im going to try cm6 next week most likely...
Swyped from an HTC Evo on MetroPCS...

First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.

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Pandora has always been glitchy. Its a great service, but they need a new programmer.
8 second phone. I think not. Try the Desire Z (G2), their version of Froyo looks faster.
If your new to the EVO, give it some time. Its a smartphone, and anyone with experience knows that all smartphones are temperamental some times, just like computers.
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i've been on the evo for a little over a month now getting into it hard...i've learned too much too quickly...but yeah i definitely see the "like computers" temperamental issues at times.
notasimpleway said:
First off, are you running a task killer or manager? If so, uninstall and reboot. A lot of the time this is the source of problems. Android manages its own tasks quite well. I can go into a lot more details if you'd like about why you shouldn't use one.
not using any task manager. used to have advanced task killer but someone else recommended uninstalling it before.
If not using a task killer or that did not help....
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI. Personally, I love Fresh ROM. The dev came from the Hero like me and has a very very good track record for being stable and fixing things. And he is a cool guy.
im considering CM6 because i barely use any sense apps. mainly flashlight, clock and htc lockscreen. i'm on metropcs so i cant use 4G and i dont have a HDTV so no need for HDMI
Install one of those and then post back if you still have problems. I think this will fix it.
BTW did you flash from another ROM and use a backup app to restore? This can cause problems with ROMs that have different settings and options.
have not done that...and now i know not to do it when i change roms.
As for boot times, like the earlier guy said deodexed ROMs do extra stuff while booting. Also, lots of apps can cause slow boots because they start up on boot. You can use an app to disable them.
And last, app not installing. Hit menu-settings-applications-manage applications. Hit the SD tab and see if those apps show up. If so, click on them and uninstall. This will most like fix that issue.
well the problem is 1) if the app is in my sd card, i dont need to uninstall it, just move it to the phone and then i can update it. but i have over 100 apps installed, it is not practical to do this for every update for every app! 2)some apps, like LCD Density Changer, which I paid and had installed before, wont install at all and i dont have it installed...so what there?
Post back results here or if you need further help. We will be glad to help.
-Ken
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i think i'm definitely changing roms....just have to consider if i want to get a stock rom or go to cm6

notasimpleway said:
I say try Fresh ROM or Myn's Warm. Fresh is very stable. I think you may have a corrupt download of the ROM. However, since you are using LP you don't seem like a Sense UI person so CM6 may be your option. However, it does not have 4G nor HDMI.
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The OP's sig says he has his EVO on MetroPCS; if that's the case then lack of 4G shouldn't be a concern.
That's the only real thing keeping me from trying CM6, even though there are only a few pockets of 4G coverage where I live.

Well I switched roms to ava v9 and some of the issues seem to have gone away...but still having problems installing apps from market...many if the apps and games I had before on my previous rom give an installation unsuccessful message...
Im thinking it may be something I damaged by installing htc and sprint apps right after flashing the rom...I'm going to restore all those files and see what happens...
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[Q] Very slow and laggy Legend

Hey.
I have Legend since few months and now I have a slight problem with it. It get so laggy sometimes that after I press END CALL after the call, I must wait 3-5 seconds sometimes for menu to get back to the desktop (during this time a contact photo is still on the screen. will factory reset help? it is happening also after a reboot after 1-2 hours. It is unbranded, unrooted, with the latest OTA update available in Europe.
next thing is that when the phone is laying still, and someone calls me, the ringtone gets muted after 1-2 seconds. can anyone help me with these?

What all applications have you installed on it ?
It could very well be some buggy application.

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What all applications have you installed on it ?
It could very well be some buggy application.
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Very well, indeed.
I had similar problems with Desktop Visualizer and Launcher Pro for example. Having too many custom shortcuts and size-heavy images on the home screens caused my phone to slow down to a an unpleasent extent.

Well first of all launcher pro. But before it was flying. I have around 100megs free on Phone memory, some apps (before it was ok), few games biggest one is angry birds and that all. And widgets smoothcalendar, launch x pro and beautiful widgets.
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I don't think launcher pro is the culprit here.
But you might wanna check the widgets you' ve installed. Some of them could be clogging the resources.
Try backing up all your apps, uninstall third party stuff one by one and see if they're is any difference.
If you have root (soft root is enough) you could use titanium backup app (free) from market. It'll make the job of backing up and restoring your apps a breaze (including the data and preferences)

I forgot about Skype which is also bigger than other apps. And of course im using advance task killer - maybe that is the problem?
I dont have a root im waitin for official friggin froyo from htc, then im gonna root for sure.. I h8 Sense but its clock app and dialer is unreplaceable.
is there any fast way to root legend without goldcard? (i think I read somewhere that goldcard is only required for branded devices - am i right?)

You could try removing apps one by one and see their effect.
I personally use system panel (purchased, not the free one) installed which enables you to monitor battery/cpu usage. That does help me in identifying stealthy apps which just sits there and consume the resources.
You can do soft root without going through all those lengthy rooting procedure.
You could try modaco visionary, did work for me. use the temp root option to have soft root. and you'll have root till you reboot.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/320722/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
rooting is not persistent throughout reboots, so you'll have to use the app every time after you reboot if you need root again.
I used this guide to root my legend and install a froyo rom. it was kind of easy, even creating the gold card was simple.
http://bandla.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/htc-legend-guide-to-rooting-and-installing-froyo-rom/
If you indeed go ahead with it, just make sure to insert the created gold card before running the file
RUU_Legend_HTC_WWE_1.31.405.5_R_Radio_47.26.35.04_ 7.05.35.26L_release_126592_signed.exe
when they say that in the guide.
for the backup using titanium backup, soft root is enough for you.

ok I will try it.. thanks for help, I hope that it will solve my problem

Iwant to throw my archos 70 out of the window

Hello everyone
I have been a loyal archos user for a year now, first with the a5IT and now the 70 internet tablet. As form factor I love the Archos 70 internet tab but the software is killing me it is so slow, what can I do to make it fast again?

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kuwari316 said:
Hello everyone
I have been a loyal archos user for a year now, first with the a5IT and now the 70 internet tablet. As form factor I love the Archos 70 internet tab but the software is killing me it is so slow, what can I do to make it fast again?
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What in particular is slow?
If scrolling home screens is slow, or icons are taking time to show up (or refresh) try a different launcher than the default. Popular ones lately have been Go Launcher, ADW.Launcher, and Zeam.
Are you using the most recent firmware update? (2.0.71 has sped the systems up quite a bit from the older versions)
http://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates.html?country=us&lang=en&#firm
Are you using an SD card? (If so try adding a file named .nomedia to the card to reduce the gallery from spending time scanning).
Did you install Google Voice? (If not, you should refrain from it since, it is dragging down a lot of systems).
What speed (in settings) do you have your processor set to run. (The most responsive is the Overdrive setting).
If you want to know how to speed your system up you'll need to tell us what is slow about it.

The overall system is getting really unresponsive and what bugs me the most is when I try to install any app through .apk the device fails on me and freezes. Basically when I try to instal any app it freezez when I try to use an app it freezes most of the time
I am using the latest update with the middle setting for power but overdrive doesn't make a big difference. I am running adw launcher which helped and is really good compared to the stock launcher.
The device freezes a lot and thats not because of me having a lot of apps when I get home I will try reinstalling the update keeping the device on overdrive for a long time and will report back
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i would do a reset. it really is not as bad as it sounds.
market will tie your purchases to your account, just power off, hold vol-down and power up. choose reset, and then reset device( i do & storage). make sure firmware is 2.0.71, and install gapps5. then just watch what you install, and uninstall things you don't use.

Yeah, it sounds like you need to do a full reinitialization and then reinstall the newest firmware.
My A70 was literally not usable after I tried to upgrade. It was freezing every minute. After a reinstall, everything works great.
And don't forget to set your CPU to overdrive. Really doesn't affect battery too much, and the speed is noticeable.

I turned off the animated live wallpaper. Made my 101 noticable faster.

Deinstall VoiceSearch
You should deinstall the updates of VoiceSearch ....

thanks guys I did a full reinitiolization (not sure bout spelling) and now it is working better, i chose not to install the market and just use applanet for what i want to download, working good now but we'll see how it ends up after a few days of use.
thanks guys you were really helpfull.

dont know if the contents of your memory were wiped with your full reinitialization but i have noticed that every time i install an app i get the little pop up saying that the device is updating its library. this would explain why it would appear to grind to a halt when you install anything

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dont know if the contents of your memory were wiped with your full reinitialization but i have noticed that every time i install an app i get the little pop up saying that the device is updating its library. this would explain why it would appear to grind to a halt when you install anything
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the contents of my memory card did get wiped and i've noticed the less things in the internal memory the better. this is because archos did not partition the internal memory for the users the should have left maybe 2gb for the system and apps and the rest for us to use like what is on the galaxy s, that is what mae the device not lag.

Hi, if you do throw it out your window....pls make shure you aim at my open window.

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Hi, if you do throw it out your window....pls make shure you aim at my open window.
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nice!
Make sure you don't have any plants on the window sill.

Okay. Please no littering the landscape with fancy toys...
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I had the same issue. I had a photo app syncing online and it downloaded 30,000 thumbnails. That with the screwy "update multimedia library" really brought the 70IT to a halt. It would "sync" for about 1 hour leaving about 75% battery left.
I reinitialized and installed gapps4archos v5 with only the market and gmail (no voice or maps) and it's flying now. I wish I could disable the multimedia library sync permanently.

My nexus 7 takes almost 4 minutes to boot up!

When I frist got my n7, I believe it took about 30-40 seconds to boot up. As I have installed apps it has taken longer and longer.
I've cleared up a fair about of space (1.5 gig free) but it's still a slow bootup.
I've read all about google 'takes of everything' and will kill idle processes, but really I don't want to give these apps permission to start in the first place. here's an example: appsales, a neat app that will let you see what is on sale. But I want to run it when I want to run, not get notifications in my task bar '5 new apps on sale!'. I'm not saying this app is the culprit but you get my point.
From what I've read, there's no real way to stop this, task killers just continually check and re-kill the app. I just wanted to confirm, there's no way, (even with a custom rom) to have control and say no this app can never launch?
If that's true, what do others use to kill background apps.
I was going to wipe it and install a custom rom, but I bet as I install all my apps again, I'll be back in the same boat. And I've read others install their apps one at a time to find which ones are causing issues, well there must be a better way.
Remember when you first started using windows 95/98 and you discovered msconfig? It was like, 'Cool now I can stop all these freaking apps from loading at startup!'

here you go, only enable the apps you want, and problem solved. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnN0YXJ0dXBtYW5hZ2VyIl0.

You could go one step further and use openpdroid. You will need to be rooted on a non-stock ROM, though.
Once you have it installed, you can control a slew of permissions, including the one that allows booting at start.