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Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
wildcolor said:
Some roms require a full wipe/factory reset before installing. Of course that will delete all apps including the one that I bought. Do I need to buy them again?
Also, will the 'titanium backup' backups the destop settings (i.e., the app shortcuts created on main screen)?
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Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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Some launchers let you backup icon placements and such on the home screen. Also, as long as you use the same Google account you originally bought stuff from Google Play with on your new ROM or any other devic, you can download it again for free. Also Titanium Backup is an incredible app that will backup apps settings as well, so if you are thinking of getting it, go for the paid version, it's worth a least 4 times as much as it costs.
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Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
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Thanks for the reply. I bought TitaniumB already. But, if I do a full wipe, I actually also delete the Titanium app and the file it backuped, didn't I?
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Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
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Not if you leave the "sdcard" partition alone. You can wipe data and keep that data (which has your TB info) intact. Same goes for any backups/nandroids you performed with TWRP or CWR.
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It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
TB is titanium backup but I would just use es file explorer or something similar to back up the apps to the sd card
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It might be a stupid question, but What is TB short for? Also, the Nexus 7 only has one internal 'sdcard', by partition, did you mean that I could set many partitions like what we do under windows (i.e., C: , D: , E: ) ?
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You can but that's a totally different question/thread/answer. LOL What you want is to just flash a new rom after a wipe and to restore all your apps. It is ok to wipe your device, just do NOT wipe the internal SD card. That will wipe the rom you want to flash and other goodies. Another tip is to create an update.zip of your titanium backup program so that when you first flash your ROM, you can flash the update.zip right after. In Titanium backup, hit menu-"create update.zip". This will place the update.zip (titanium backup program) on your internal SDcard so you can flash it later.
Please delete the update.zip after you have your device up and running to avoid any confusions down the road. You can create the titanium backup "zip" file at any time and takes seconds to do. GL
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
wildcolor said:
thanks for all the reply.
I thought a full wipe would delete all user data (apps and all files) and was afraid to try to do the full wipe. Obversly, I was wrong. The wipe doesn't delete everything.
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Nope the rom's data partition is seperate from the sdcard partition. A regular wipe of the data, cache, dalvic cache, and system doesn't delete the storage (sdcard) partition, they're kept seperate for that reason among others.
You have to actually tell it to wipe the sdcard partition in order to wipe it. Also, note that in recovery, wiping the data and cache partition is sometimes called "factory reset". I know in TWRP recovery it is, not sure about clockwork. If you know you're in recovery, the factory reset is perfectly safe, it only wipes data and cache. It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
When you see us referring to "Make sure you wipe completely" it's probably confusing, but we aren't referring to the sdcard and external storage. We are just referring to what's necessary for a proper rom install, which is data, system, dalvic cache, and cache.
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It's completely seperate from similar options that are in the rom (in settings) or in the factory bootloader.
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That is exactly what I confused about.
Thanks a lot. Thanks meter added again for the generous reply.
Im not a noob user, but im not obsessed with changing ROMS daily. However when I want to try a new ROM I procrastinate because I find the whole process so tedious. I have TB Pro, and backup all apps and data, without the system data though. After flashing a new ROM, the setup of everything takes so long. Nova launcher, all my widget placements, options etc. And often times, Im missing data from an app.
With the N7 as well I gotta transfer all the mp3s as well because a full wipe clears everything out.
Is there an easier way? Am I missing something here? What is your procedure for a quick way to change a ROM.
Thanks for your time and input.
You're wasting a lot of time and effort by wiping your virtual sd card partition when changing roms. You don't need to wipe it and copy everything back again.
Keep your mp3s and titanium backups on the device, though no harm in making a local copy of your TitaniumBackup folder on PC or cloud for safekeeping.
When you change roms, a full wipe just needs a wipe of everything except the sdcard.
I've also use titanium backup pro. the batch backup and restore of user apps and data has never failed me, never lost any data. it's time consuming with a lot of apps, but at least you can select all and let it do its thing.
nova launcher should also have an option to create a local backup of all your home screen preferences and settings etc, don't know if it includes the widget layout, possibly some limitations there.
Titanium backup pro can make flashable zips of all your user apps and data, which you can simply flash after installing a rom, though i've never tried it, just used to batch restore within the app. you may have to reboot in between flashing this zip. guide will be out there somewhere. EDIT: found it, menu->batch actions, then scroll down, there's an option under 'Recovery'.
So procedure:
- Titanium backup of all user apps + data (create flashable zip)
- Nandroid backup (just in case!)
- Full wipe (not virtual sdcard partition)
- Flash Rom
- Reboot
- Boot back into recovery and flash the zip of your backups.
Yeh can be time consuming, but a lot is automated. Saves a lot more time than needlessly backing up all of your sd card partition, wiping and restoring it :good:
Give it a try next time, might try it myself.
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You're wasting a lot of time and effort by wiping your virtual sd card partition when changing roms. You don't need to wipe it and copy everything back again.
Keep your mp3s and titanium backups on the device, though no harm in making a local copy of your TitaniumBackup folder on PC or cloud for safekeeping.
When you change roms, a full wipe just needs a wipe of everything except the sdcard.
I've also use titanium backup pro. the batch backup and restore of user apps and data has never failed me, never lost any data. it's time consuming with a lot of apps, but at least you can select all and let it do its thing.
nova launcher should also have an option to create a local backup of all your home screen preferences and settings etc, don't know if it includes the widget layout, possibly some limitations there.
Titanium backup pro can make flashable zips of all your user apps and data, which you can simply flash after installing a rom, though i've never tried it, just used to batch restore within the app. you may have to reboot in between flashing this zip. guide will be out there somewhere. EDIT: found it, menu->batch actions, then scroll down, there's an option under 'Recovery'.
So procedure:
- Titanium backup of all user apps + data (create flashable zip)
- Nandroid backup (just in case!)
- Full wipe (not virtual sdcard partition)
- Flash Rom
- Reboot
- Boot back into recovery and flash the zip of your backups.
Yeh can be time consuming, but a lot is automated. Saves a lot more time than needlessly backing up all of your sd card partition, wiping and restoring it :good:
Give it a try next time, might try it myself.
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Thanks for the reply and detailed response. Just seems when I do the full wipe it wipes out the SD card on the N7 which is internal. Or perhaps its the flash of the ROM. Anyway, the standard wipe on TWRP is not supposed to include the internal storage. Ill try again listing your outline.
Thanks
Hightower68 said:
Im not a noob user, but im not obsessed with changing ROMS daily. However when I want to try a new ROM I procrastinate because I find the whole process so tedious. I have TB Pro, and backup all apps and data, without the system data though. After flashing a new ROM, the setup of everything takes so long. Nova launcher, all my widget placements, options etc. And often times, Im missing data from an app.
With the N7 as well I gotta transfer all the mp3s as well because a full wipe clears everything out.
Is there an easier way? Am I missing something here? What is your procedure for a quick way to change a ROM.
Thanks for your time and input.
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You probably already know it but nova launcher has its own backup/restore feature,that sets up your widgets/desktop layout/etc. Although I get your point it can be a chore getting everything setup again, like wifi passwords, alarms and other settings.
What holds me back from flashing rooms on the n7, is having multi user set up, as I haven't found a way to backup/restore the other persons apps/settings/data which is a pain.
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Hightower68 said:
Thanks for the reply and detailed response. Just seems when I do the full wipe it wipes out the SD card on the N7 which is internal. Or perhaps its the flash of the ROM. Anyway, the standard wipe on TWRP is not supposed to include the internal storage. Ill try again listing your outline.
Thanks
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Dont use the manual wipe data option. Just do factory reset from recovery. No need to do anything else to wipe
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Hello everyone, I've been an android fan for a long time but have only recently gotten my first smartphone- a Note 3.
Anyway, I flashed the Poland 4.4.2 a few days ago and I've afraid to flash Omega well basically I'm new to all of this.
Questions:
1. Do I need an sdcard to flash Omega 7.1? I currently don't have one and will be unable to get one for maybe at least a month.
2. I honestly love TW except for a few features it has that I don't use. So just to be clear, when I flash Omega 7.1 will I have the ability to select which TW apps(s-note,s-pen,etc) to install and not install(s-health,etc)?
3. I have TB installed and I am rooted. I have periodically made backups of all my application data. Will performing a full wipe remove the backups?(Knowing that I currently don't have an sdcard). Do I need to save TB backups on my desktop then?
4. What course of action do you guys recommend I should take to have the best possible and most error free experience with Omega 7.1 I should take?No wipe or full wipe? Will no wipe retain all my data?Application, phonebook,messages?I assume full wipe means all data will be lost.
Thank you for those who will be able to help and answer my queries especially those experienced with the Omega rom.
I tried searching the forums regarding the questions I have but I couldn't find them so resorting to posting a separate thread.
More power to the XDA Community! :good:
Mandirigma said:
Hello everyone, I've been an android fan for a long time but have only recently gotten my first smartphone- a Note 3.
Anyway, I flashed the Poland 4.4.2 a few days ago and I've afraid to flash Omega well basically I'm new to all of this.
Questions:
1. Do I need an sdcard to flash Omega 7.1? I currently don't have one and will be unable to get one for maybe at least a month.
2. I honestly love TW except for a few features it has that I don't use. So just to be clear, when I flash Omega 7.1 will I have the ability to select which TW apps(s-note,s-pen,etc) to install and not install(s-health,etc)?
3. I have TB installed and I am rooted. I have periodically made backups of all my application data. Will performing a full wipe remove the backups?(Knowing that I currently don't have an sdcard). Do I need to save TB backups on my desktop then?
4. What course of action do you guys recommend I should take to have the best possible and most error free experience with Omega 7.1 I should take?No wipe or full wipe? Will no wipe retain all my data?Application, phonebook,messages?I assume full wipe means all data will be lost.
Thank you for those who will be able to help and answer my queries especially those experienced with the Omega rom.
I tried searching the forums regarding the questions I have but I couldn't find them so resorting to posting a separate thread.
More power to the XDA Community! :good:
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Nope no need for an extSD card.(advisable to get one incase of mishaps) - Just don't wipe internal memory if you plan to flash directly from your internal SD!
All TW functions are intact unless ROM Dev says otherwise - Aroma set up wizard will guide you through.. and those you don't want you can freeze with TiB
You can use TB fixer to restore your backups without issue
Full wipe all the way, fixes 99% of any potential issues
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Nope no need for an extSD card.(advisable to get one incase of mishaps) - Just don't wipe internal memory if you plan to flash directly from your internal SD!
All TW functions are intact unless ROM Dev says otherwise - Aroma set up wizard will guide you through.. and those you don't want you can freeze with TiB
You can use TB fixer to restore your backups without issue
Full wipe all the way, fixes 99% of any potential issues
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Wow that was fast.
Clarification:
is TB fixer an app?or a TB functionality? I haven't really played with TB yet. Will it be much easier if I made backups and then just store the backups on my pc and then do a full wipe and then restore the backups after flashing Omega? I find that the most straightforward approach but then again, things might be different in the Android community
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Wow that was fast.
Clarification:
is TB fixer an app?or a TB functionality? I haven't really played with TB yet. Will it be much easier if I made backups and then just store the backups on my PC and then do a full wipe and then restore the backups after flashing Omega? I find that the most straightforward approach but then again, things might be different in the Android community
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A full wipe will not delete internal or external memory cards' data. It will just remove personal system data. Nevertheless, it is not a bad idea to have a copy elsewhere.
I always make a copy in my external memory card and do what ever I want with the device with the external memory out just in case. and then put it back in when done.
The TB fixer is included (I believe) with Omega 7.1. I strongly recommend a full wipe.
good luck.
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A full wipe will not delete internal or external memory cards' data. It will just remove personal system data. Nevertheless, it is not a bad idea to have a copy elsewhere.
I always make a copy in my external memory card and do what ever I want with the device with the external memory out just in case. and then put it back in when done.
The TB fixer is included (I believe) with Omega 7.1. I strongly recommend a full wipe.
good luck.
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Ahh,thank you for that. The terminologies scare me as of now and what they actually implied since it'll be a pain in the ass recovering the data I have. I will perform a full backup with TB and will make a copy to my desktop just in case since I don't have an external memory yet mimicking what you do with making a copy to your extSD and taking it out.
I am now downloading the necessary stuff. I will post an update later.
thank you for the responses guys!
update: I have now successfully flashed Omega 7.1 on my Note 3.
thank you very much for clarifying you guys!
Mandirigma said:
update: I have now successfully flashed Omega 7.1 on my Note 3.
thank you very much for clarifying you guys!
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Great. Glad to be able to help you.
Hi all,
When I visit XDA I always notice a new ROM for the moto g4 plus. I immediately wanted to try them but whenever I install a ROM I will lose all the data. Sometimes I try to dirtly flash the ROM but I doesn't work most of the time. My question is how can I backup most of my data so I can use it on the new ROM?
There is 3rd option for backup in TWRP, It will Backup your current ROM and Installed apps and their data only, but not your photos/videos or any personal data....
And now read this carefully - if you are wiping partitions read their name before wiping, dont wipe internal memory, external memory or OTG... Wiping them will erase everything on your phone or pendrive(if connected), wipe only those partitions whose backup you have made ( delvik-cache, cache, data, system )
Note again- don't wipe SDcard partitions, it will erase your personal data....
For safety it's better to copy your personal data to PC or Computer....
I hope you read my ENGLISH carefully.....
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There is 3rd option for backup in TWRP, It will Backup your current ROM and Installed apps and their data only, but not your photos/videos or any personal data....
And now read this carefully - if you are wiping partitions read their name before wiping, dont wipe internal memory, external memory or OTG... Wiping them will erase everything on your phone or pendrive(if connected), wipe only those partitions whose backup you have made ( delvik-cache, cache, data, system )
Note again- don't wipe SDcard partitions, it will erase your personal data....
For safety it's better to copy your personal data to PC or Computer....
I hope you read my ENGLISH carefully.....
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But I still wouldn't have the apps installed right?
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But I still wouldn't have the apps installed right?
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Yes...
If you wipe DATA and install ROM then you will have to install all apps again... But when you restore Backed ROM then everything will be same as when you backed that...
You can save your app and data with titanium backup, it can help too.
What I do is
Backup ur apps using titanium backup
Now flash a new ROM , wiping cache , dalvic cache, system, data..
Now restore all ur apps using titanium backup pro ( crack titanium backup using lucky patcher)
Why I m saying to use pro version because you don't need to tap install on every app, it automatically installs WITH DATA ..it also doesn't take much time..
So finally you have ur apps with data !
Note : don't wipe internal storage while flashing new ROM ..so ur media files will not be lost
Hope this helps!
I think you mean "buy" titanium backup pro? :angel:
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I think you mean "buy" titanium backup pro? :angel:
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No, just install lucky patcher with BusyBox ..
Than apply custom patch for titanium backup ..
No need to buy pro !
If you still have doubts ..pm me
So i have a samsung s8 G950F Rooted running android 7.0, But im having lots of troubles, apps crashing etc etc, so i want to factory reset, unroot and then upate to 8.0 and then root again. so my questions are
1. what is the best method of backing up everything ? like apps positions, apps data, photos, videos, and contacts , so basically a full backup?
2. how to properly unroot My device?
3. how to restore my full backup?
any help is appreciated, thank you, i looked around, but all the posts are from 4-5 years ago, so id like to know the most recent and advanced way
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So i have a samsung s8 G950F Rooted running android 7.0, But im having lots of troubles, apps crashing etc etc, so i want to factory reset, unroot and then upate to 8.0 and then root again. so my questions are
1. what is the best method of backing up everything ? like apps positions, apps data, photos, videos, and contacts , so basically a full backup?
2. how to properly unroot My device?
3. how to restore my full backup?
any help is appreciated, thank you, i looked around, but all the posts are from 4-5 years ago, so id like to know the most recent and advanced way
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Hello, i am gonna answer your questions one by one
1. by apps positions if you mean the apps on the screens of the android then they are gonna moved after format, even after restore your backup. second you are gonna need titanium backup from playstore. Since you have root download lucky patcher from your browser or from your pc and patch the titanium backup you just downloaded from PlayStore .. and then select backup your apps, i suggest you to backup the on a usb with the adapter from the box of your phone , or on a sd card, be carefull do not wipe them . the contacts you can go to the Contacts apps and on the settings back them up to your Sd Card or to your Usb Otg.. Unless if you have them moved on your Sim Card then no need to backup them
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Your videos and your other personal data move them all from the internal storage to your Usb or to Sd card too ..
2. you dont need to unroot your device to update your device, which methods are you gonna use to upgrade your phone? firmware from odin ? You are gonna need to root your device after the update then .
3. if you use titanium backup then you are gonna find the restore option on the app . your personal data from your usb or sd you are need to move them on your internal storage , and restore the contacts.
Get titanium, backup needed apps on external sd. Instal twrp through odin, insall custom rom like alexega or sac (wipe system and data before or some roms already offer this options).
Later restore backups of needed apps through titanium. All files on sd card/s will remain after new rom installation (if you are unsure backup your media files to computer), just dont wipe media/internal sd. Forget about restoring full backup, if you have a lot of rubbish code flowing around you need get rid of it, just back up apps with data that are important. That's how you should do it.
Ps: Ideally everyone should format data once 3 months and restore backups of needed apps later, it's the only way to keep it in excellent working condition
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Get titanium, backup needed apps on external sd. Instal twrp through odin, insall custom rom like alexega or sac (wipe system and data before or some roms already offer this options).
Later restore backups of needed apps through titanium. All files on sd card/s will remain after new rom installation (if you are unsure backup your media files to computer), just dont wipe media/internal sd. Forget about restoring full backup, if you have a lot of rubbish code flowing around you need get rid of it, just back up apps with data that are important. That's how you should do it.
Ps: Ideally everyone should format data once 3 months and restore backups of needed apps later, it's the only way to keep it in excellent working condition
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probably you didnt read my post above.
StonebridgeGr said:
Hello, i am gonna answer your questions one by one
1. by apps positions if you mean the apps on the screens of the android then they are gonna moved after format, even after restore your backup. second you are gonna need titanium backup from playstore. Since you have root download lucky patcher from your browser or from your pc and patch the titanium backup you just downloaded from PlayStore .. and then select backup your apps, i suggest you to backup the on a usb with the adapter from the box of your phone , or on a sd card, be carefull do not wipe them . the contacts you can go to the Contacts apps and on the settings back them up to your Sd Card or to your Usb Otg.. Unless if you have them moved on your Sim Card then no need to backup them
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Your videos and your other personal data move them all from the internal storage to your Usb or to Sd card too ..
2. you dont need to unroot your device to update your device, which methods are you gonna use to upgrade your phone? firmware from odin ? You are gonna need to root your device after the update then .
3. if you use titanium backup then you are gonna find the restore option on the app . your personal data from your usb or sd you are need to move them on your internal storage , and restore the contacts.
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Thanks a lot worked like a charm
Extreemator said:
Get titanium, backup needed apps on external sd. Instal twrp through odin, insall custom rom like alexega or sac (wipe system and data before or some roms already offer this options).
Later restore backups of needed apps through titanium. All files on sd card/s will remain after new rom installation (if you are unsure backup your media files to computer), just dont wipe media/internal sd. Forget about restoring full backup, if you have a lot of rubbish code flowing around you need get rid of it, just back up apps with data that are important. That's how you should do it.
Ps: Ideally everyone should format data once 3 months and restore backups of needed apps later, it's the only way to keep it in excellent working condition
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Thank you so much !!
Also while we are at it!
What's the difference between wipe and format
So I got the oem lock thing and i have to wait 7 days etc
So when I get the poem unlock I'll be rooting my device
But to install tarp and magisk I have to "wipe" data
What exactly will be wiped?
My pictures and videos or apps or what exactly so I know before rooting
ZainHikary said:
Also while we are at it!
What's the difference between wipe and format
So I got the oem lock thing and i have to wait 7 days etc
So when I get the poem unlock I'll be rooting my device
But to install tarp and magisk I have to "wipe" data
What exactly will be wiped?
My pictures and videos or apps or what exactly so I know before rooting
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It's same but it very differnt. it's confusing. Format data in this case applies to full data wipe. While if you go to twrp wipe menu and choose to wipe data, it won't touch media (folder with all user files) folder in data. While format will erase all patrition and reformat it.
All will be deleted, since it's full data wipe with media. Just data wipe without media deletes just apps. You won't need to install magisk or su separately if you install custom rom like i mentioned.
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It's same but it very differnt. it's confusing. Format data in this case applies to full data wipe. While if you go to twrp wipe menu and choose to wipe data, it won't touch media (folder with all user files) folder in data. While format will erase all patrition and reformat it.
All will be deleted, since it's full data wipe with media. Just data wipe without media deletes just apps. You won't need to install magisk or su separately if you install custom rom like i mentioned.
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Well I ended up installing the official rom for oreo I'm waiting for oem unlock soon, I wanna install twrp and root using magisk, but one of the requirement is to "wipe" in this case it's just the apps? I'm gonna backup just in case anyway! But I want to make sure
All will be deleted no reason to make surerer. I hope you understood titanium part, although i recommend it only if you have important apps, with data that i use (i have only a few), otherwise throw them out.
Then after you installl, you can make full backup of data through twrp. I usually do it after a week i installed rom i choose, and if i install a lot of apps i no longer need, and overall android gets slower, i just restore this back up and always have os that is 1 week old without any setting up to do. After just a couple of apps i restore recent data to them with titanium. If you had this with phone it becomes problematic as you said, i suggest you to remember how to do it.