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[Q] xoom videoplayback via smb

Im new to xoom guys. I used to play video files with opening them in astro file manager with smb. Seems smb is not working in astro, tried also on desire hd, but on my hd2 with core droid works fine. The other file managers are preferching the files to my tablet, so takes a long time to watch even a few hundred megs movie... how could i mount my network shares onto my xoom?
Another issue is with mkvs, no sound, onli the movie, moboplayer, factory video player either... any ideas for the above issues? Tks in advance guys.

Drop SMB and go with splashtop HD. Well worth the five dollars. Your desktop does the processing and streams the video and sound to the xoom.

LITHALE said:
Drop SMB and go with splashtop HD. Well worth the five dollars. Your desktop does the processing and streams the video and sound to the xoom.
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Unf, i can only have SMB, no other options.......
Tks.

Ok, in th meantime i found the best video player, named dice player. 3 bucks, but this worths. No need to convert your hd movies anymore. Matroska + ac3 is working very well. Just tap on any mkv file and will pla it smooth. The video encoding is done by the hw and sound by pure cpu, but with dual core it's working fantastic.
Still no info on any smb program which wud work without prefetching... any ideas?

AndrewBoy said:
Ok, in th meantime i found the best video player, named dice player. 3 bucks, but this worths. No need to convert your hd movies anymore. Matroska + ac3 is working very well. Just tap on any mkv file and will pla it smooth. The video encoding is done by the hw and sound by pure cpu, but with dual core it's working fantastic.
Still no info on any smb program which wud work without prefetching... any ideas?
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you paid for something which moboplayer/Mv player does for free...

Kippui said:
you paid for something which moboplayer/Mv player does for free...
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I think he said that he couldn't get mobo to play MKV's over the network without either copying the whole file to the Xoom first, or not getting audio.
You can use cifsmanager to mount network shares. Also, Astro has a module to read SMB shares. It's a separate download in the market.

Cifs is the way to go. It'll treat the shares as local folders and open the files accordingly without buffering.
Do a search around here for the cifs.ko and instructions on how to use it.
Also, I'm going to check out Dice player to see if it'll play high profile mkv.

I tested Dice Player last night with some HP 720 mkvs. Some minor hiccups on a few files but it played great. I play all my media off of twonky server on a linux machine.
I'm definitely thinking of buying the full version. I wanted CorePlayer to come out, but seems like that isn't going to happen. Wasn't impressed with moboplayer or rockplayer, and mx player didn't even register to open mkv's for me.

Baka no Kami said:
I think he said that he couldn't get mobo to play MKV's over the network without either copying the whole file to the Xoom first, or not getting audio.
You can use cifsmanager to mount network shares. Also, Astro has a module to read SMB shares. It's a separate download in the market.
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Astro smb is working only on froyo, not on gingerbread or honeycomb.

Kippui said:
you paid for something which moboplayer/Mv player does for free...
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Mobo and others cannot handle ac3.... so now i dont have to convert my regular shows into mp4..

I checked these cif managers. I dont want to root my device..... i dont want to wipe my data and restore everything

AndrewBoy said:
I checked these cif managers. I dont want to root my device..... i dont want to wipe my data and restore everything
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Well... I think you're out of luck then unfortunately. If you NEED this to be SMB and can't use a media server like Twonky or a streaming option like Splashtop then you'll need to root I think.

ES File Explorer recently added SMB streaming capability. Works fine on my Xoom, I can browse to a WHS network share via ES, and when I tap a video file, it asks me which video program I want to play it back through... Works great for AVI's for me, but I was having trouble getting MKV's to work right. I'll have to try this Dice player.

Tried es file explorer both on my xoom and sensation. On the phone es file exp offers the possibility to choose player or set one as default. On my xoom the factory player starts but nothing happens since cannot handle mkvs. I cannot chose dice, not even with open as video or other stuff. How can i delete default video player from my xoom? I cannot even find any factory playback **** in application manage(((

Maybe clear data for ES on the xoom or failing that uninstall and reinstall?
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uninstalled astro, now working fine finally can watch mkvs from my server tks guys!

DLNA/UPnP and Xvid/Divx over network

Hi all.
Am having trouble with using files streamed from my Twonky UPnP server, which worked fine on my old Galaxy Tab 7".
As I understand it, the new Tabs still support Divx playback in hardware out of the box - and if I lob an xvid on the internal storage it plays fine in the internal player.
If, however, I attempt to use AllShare to browse my Twonky server and play an xvid, I get "unsupported file format". If I use an alternate UPnP browser app, the files find their way to the video player app but don't play - I get a frame and a burst of sound every ten seconds or so. If I use an alternate UPnP app AND an alternate video player with software rendering, it all works fine - but obviously I'd prefer to use the default player and/or get the benefit of hardware rendering for battery life etc.
Same story with MKVs too - except the software player doesn't have enough grunt to play these, so I'm doubly stuffed on those files with no workaround.
Has anyone got the AllShare/Divx combo working on the new Tabs? If so, how, and using which UPnP server?

Loccy said:
Hi all.
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Has anyone got the AllShare/Divx combo working on the new Tabs? If so, how, and using which UPnP server?
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AllShare does not work for me as well for video. However, BubbleUPNP and DicePlayer works (with TVersity as the DLNA server).
In fact, it seems to be the ONLY combo that works and believe me, I tried them all!

The best combination I have found for stable and hardware accelerated playback on the Tab 10.1 is:
1. Skifta application as a DLNA client.
2. DicePlayer + DicePlayer Tegra 2 plugin application for playback.

Thanks guys. Didn't think of Diceplayer, had tried pretty much everything else on the market but had given up and assumed nothing had functioning Tegra2 acceleration. Twonky plus Bubble plus Dice for the win - works nice for xvid. Tried an MKV but it was a bit laggy - although it could have been a 1080p, need to check. However, most of my use cases are for xvid playback so pretty happy.
By the way, my tab is an 8.9, but figured that info nugget wasn't relevant at the initial point

I use BSPlayer and regular LAN shares. I have twonky on my NAS, but I always find it easier to navigate a file structure.

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I use BSPlayer and regular LAN shares. I have twonky on my NAS, but I always find it easier to navigate a file structure.
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Another player I didn't know about - guess I was spoiled by how well the old 7" tab handled video in the stock player. And another nice recommendation - many thanks.
On the Diceplayer front, has anyone got any 720 mkvs running acceptably? The file I tried earlier was a 720. Truth be told it wasn't much better on Dice over UPnP than it was over BS over a network share. Would have expected Dice to destroy BS in terms of performance, what with BS using software decoding over the network.

[Q] url video streams

Hi, I've been trying to watch various video streams via mobo player,mx player and vplayer but kept getting the following message:"can't play (the name of the link)" when I select mobo player.
And with mx player, the software decoding switches to "hardware decoding" and it displays the message "sorry, this video cannot be played".
Is there something I need to do to watch URL based streaming videos via the said players?Cos I remember a while back, these players seem to work with URL links ie mx and mobo worked like a charm. I don't know what's changed.

moboplayer does not work for me for streaming but mxplayer does. I think somewhere in the settings there is something that only lets you use s/w decoding, as h/w does not work. See if that helps you get s/w decoding because it will work then. You might also want to find the icestream .apk, because I recently found it and it's basically the best thing ever.

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moboplayer does not work for me for streaming but mxplayer does. I think somewhere in the settings there is something that only lets you use s/w decoding, as h/w does not work. See if that helps you get s/w decoding because it will work then. You might also want to find the icestream .apk, because I recently found it and it's basically the best thing ever.
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Cheers for that. I'll give your suggestions a try.
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Nexus 7 Movie Players w/ Subs

Hi, i've just ran into a bit of a problem. I was planning to watch Avatar (1080p) (.mkv format it is in) on my Nexus 7 to see how well it would cope. I started using mxplayer but it had no sound, dice player would play the movie so i then use BSplayer FREE and it worked. Job done. Until i found that i forgot to enable subtitles for the na'vi speech so i could understand. In BSplayer Free when i press in the top right, then select subtitle, then select active subtitle it doesnt find any, but when i use my computer there are 3 subtitle tracks within the video. I've also tried putting the .srt file in the same place, called the same as the movie, but it still wont find it.
Any ideas?

Try Moboplayer?

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Try Moboplayer?
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Moboplayer is laggy and doesnt play the sound. Wont use hardware decoding, attempts to use software decoding and sucks. Bad.
Vplayer Terrible lag.
QQ player Terrible lag.
It seems that only MXplayer and BSplayer play it fine, but MXplayer has no sound. Oh, forgot to mention that Mobo player found the 3 subtitle sets fine so it has to be the apps >.>

did you try SW decoding for MX?
Also, the full version of DICE player was made free last week. There is an option to manually select your sub file.
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did you try SW decoding for MX?
Also, the full version of DICE player was made free last week. There is an option to manually select your sub file.
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Dice player (yes i got the full one) says "sorry, this video cannot be played"
In MXplayer i get the 2 S/W options S/W and S/W fast. Both laggy and no sound. Going to try another method of coding the subtitles to the film.

offender1992 said:
Dice player (yes i got the full one) says "sorry, this video cannot be played"
In MXplayer i get the 2 S/W options S/W and S/W fast. Both laggy and no sound. Going to try another method of coding the subtitles to the film.
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MX player works beautifully for me.. no lag at all
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MX works perfectly for me, just remember to keep it set to S/W mode and not S/W(Fast mode).

hmm. That sucks. I haven't run into the AC3/Tegra issue yet as SW mode has been able to handle my files, but I've only tested 720p stuff for MKV. 1080 MP4 was fine.
I'll check if I have any 1080p MKVs later tonight. I have a feeling most if not all my 1080 stuff is mp4 though. I really try and avoid MKV since it's a PITA for 360/PS3 and i've never gotten those "on the fly" converting media servers to work. Curse you MKV!

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hmm. That sucks. I haven't run into the AC3/Tegra issue yet as SW mode has been able to handle my files, but I've only tested 720p stuff.
I'll check if I have any 1080p MKVs later tonight. I have a feeling most if not all my 1080 stuff is mp4 though. I really try and avoid MKV since it's a PITA for 360/PS3 and i've never gotten those "on the fly" converting media servers to work. Curse you MKV!
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11gb of download son, glad my internet recently got buffed for free though!
At the minute using mkvmerge and Avidemux to see if either will hardcore them into the video itself properly and not softcode.
I spent almost 45minutes today getting the subtitles to match up with my copy of the film. Really frustrating getting that to work properly.

offender1992 said:
Dice player (yes i got the full one) says "sorry, this video cannot be played"
In MXplayer i get the 2 S/W options S/W and S/W fast. Both laggy and no sound. Going to try another method of coding the subtitles to the film.
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you should use custom plugin and libffmpeg.so on sdcard.
it may be a DTS issues.

juami said:
you should use custom plugin and libffmpeg.so on sdcard.
it may be a DTS issues.
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Fixed it, by default subtitles are disabled in BSplayer, for whatever reason that is, and then it worked :/ I had to spend ages altering the timing of subtitles though as the subtitles werent the ones for the copy i had Works fine now.

[Q] Are you able to watch 1080p movies with Nexus 10?

Hi,
When I bought the Nexus 10, my original thought was to use it to watch movies. Meaning, stream video from my pc using the wifi LAN (I also thought to use it as a streamer by connecting it to my TV via HDMI, but that's another story).
However, this doesn't work right. There are many movies that appear laggy/jumpy/buggy on the Nexus 10 itself (even without connecting it to a TV via HDMI).
Especially when I try to play high quality 1080p mkv files (about 10GB-15GB per movie). I don't have issues with lower quality 720p movies/series, but half the 1080p movies I just can't play right.
I have tried the following players: MX player, BS player, VLC beta, XMBC for android.
My benchmark is Avatar (exteneded) mkv 1080p, a 15GB size file. The only player that was able to play it is BS player, and only when I set it to use the "experimental HW decoding". But even that way, the fps seems to be a bit low. All other players play this movie like a powerpoint presentation, slide by slide...
I thought that the Nexus 10 hardware is strong enough to play 1080p movies. But now I'm not sure. Is it hardware limitation? is it the players fault that doesn't use properly the N10 hardware?
I a bit frustrated here, any help is appreciated!

did you try to put the file on your N10 instead of streaming it? That will rule out any potential WIFI bottleneck which may occur with files that size. Just to be sure. I cannot offer any other advice unfortunately.

Animor said:
Hi,
When I bought the Nexus 10, my original thought was to use it to watch movies. Meaning, stream video from my pc using the wifi LAN (I also thought to use it as a streamer by connecting it to my TV via HDMI, but that's another story).
However, this doesn't work right. There are many movies that appear laggy/jumpy/buggy on the Nexus 10 itself (even without connecting it to a TV via HDMI).
Especially when I try to play high quality 1080p mkv files (about 10GB-15GB per movie). I don't have issues with lower quality 720p movies/series, but half the 1080p movies I just can't play right.
I have tried the following players: MX player, BS player, VLC beta, XMBC for android.
My benchmark is Avatar (exteneded) mkv 1080p, a 15GB size file. The only player that was able to play it is BS player, and only when I set it to use the "experimental HW decoding". But even that way, the fps seems to be a bit low. All other players play this movie like a powerpoint presentation, slide by slide...
I thought that the Nexus 10 hardware is strong enough to play 1080p movies. But now I'm not sure. Is it hardware limitation? is it the players fault that doesn't use properly the N10 hardware?
I a bit frustrated here, any help is appreciated!
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Have you tried MX player's hw+ mode? Also try dice player. I have tried a higher resolution than 1080 and it worked fine in MX but it was mp4!

As I have no bluray remuxes or space on my tablet to try them, I have downloaded the test video called "Birds" from here, 40 mbps bluray remux and with MX player I can play it using HW codec with no stutter or lag. With SW Codec it has stutter and through network stream from PC with SW codec it stutters as well, and HW codec doesn't seem to work at all through network stream
I hope this helps.

Thank you all for your help!
I have made several trials according to your advices. The problem is indeed the wifi.
I have copied a movie that didn't run well through wifi to my N10 ("The Host" - 12GB), and it ran just fine with both BS and MX!
I have also tried "birds" from the post above me. When I tried to run it through wifi:
- MX player with hw+ was completely stuck on the first picture.
- BS player with experimental decoding was very bad, but a bit better than MX.
I have tried it with the N10 very close to the router, so it's not bad wifi reception.
When I copied "birds" file to my N10, it ran just fine with both MX and BS. Since it's 40mps bluray, it's much heavier than any of my 10-15GB movies in terms of mpbs.
Anyway, the problem is indeed caused by the wifi, which is a major bottleneck. Now the question is where is exactly the problem: the router (I have N type router)? N10 wifi? my computer wired Ethernet connection to the router?
How do regular streamers work with 1080p content?
Can I do anything to fix this bottleneck? Perhaps a better router?
What if I use usb OTG and connect USB DOK directly to the N10, do you think it may work?
Thanks again for your help!

Ah glad you got it to work finally. Yes the router can play a part in it, however if you are happy with your wifi setup otherwise (stability, range etc) I would not change the router just for this. There is no guarantee that a different router may indeed play your file without hiccups. It may also be that the tablet wifi is not up to the task of streaming the movies, but this is just an assumption on my part.
The cheapest solution, while not the most comfortable one, would be to use an OTG cable and a nice 64GB USB stick and just fill that with movies when you want to watch them. Maybe you can find more info on the net regarding streaming and wifi issues and solutions, but be ready to drop some cash for those routers.
EDIT: there is some good info in this thread http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=7761
EDIT2: and here http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=2755

I have the same router type N, cheap one that came free from my ISP, talktalk, and exactly the same issues when trying to play through network. I know that when trying to copy something through LAN from my PC to my tablet via ES File Explorer, it only downloads at 300KB/s, which is slower then when I download something off the internet at 1.8MB/s (which is the maximum I get from my ISP) so this leads me to believe that the problem isn't the router, because it can download fast enough for 1080p (maybe not fast enough for that "birds" test at 40mbps, though) this leaves the protocol that android uses to talk to windows PC, the Samba share or something like that.
Do you use windows as well? I'm thinking of trying to stream through a linux share, see how that goes.

I also use Windows - I've defined a user with password on windows and I connect to the workgroup on my pc with it. Perhaps you are right and this is the issue. Please update if you find a faster way to stream.
What if we use an external hdd which will connect to the router? You think it might help?
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Animor said:
I also use Windows - I've defined a user with password on windows and I connect to the workgroup on my pc with it. Perhaps you are right and this is the issue. Please update if you find a faster way to stream.
What if we use an external hdd which will connect to the router? You think it might help?
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Hey, I've made some good progress.
I downloaded an app called MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA Browser from app store and a uPnP server (I used XBMC - all I had to do to set it up after installing it was to add my movies folder under videos and then go into system>settings>services>uPnP and select share video and libraries trough UPnP) and that's it. Then I just open MediaHouse on my Nexus 10 (leave xbmc in background on pc) and browse my files... It works much better then the normal share: I can play movies that I couldn't play before with MX Player and play them using HW+ decoder. The "Birds" demo isn't great but it's much better, I had the best results using bs player, but still a bit laggy, but since you say your videos aren't quite that high in bitrate, maybe you'll get lucky.
I hope this helps. Bye

bv90andy said:
Hey, I've made some good progress.
I downloaded an app called MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA Browser from app store and a uPnP server (I used XBMC - all I had to do to set it up after installing it was to add my movies folder under videos and then go into system>settings>services>uPnP and select share video and libraries trough UPnP) and that's it. Then I just open MediaHouse on my Nexus 10 (leave xbmc in background on pc) and browse my files... It works much better then the normal share: I can play movies that I couldn't play before with MX Player and play them using HW+ decoder. The "Birds" demo isn't great but it's much better, I had the best results using bs player, but still a bit laggy, but since you say your videos aren't quite that high in bitrate, maybe you'll get lucky.
I hope this helps. Bye
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Thank you, this is indeed a very good progress. I was able to play 1080p movies!
Only problem is I can't stream .srt subtitles files along with the movie. The srt file is at the same directory of the movie. XMBC on my pc plays the subtitles, but on my N10 using MediaHouse, it's just being ignored.
Any advice?

Animor said:
Thank you, this is indeed a very good progress. I was able to play 1080p movies!
Only problem is I can't stream .srt subtitles files along with the movie. The srt file is at the same directory of the movie. XMBC on my pc plays the subtitles, but on my N10 using MediaHouse, it's just being ignored.
Any advice?
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OK, apparently uPnP doesn't support subtitles, but I have been able to copy the sub file over, normally, using ES file explorer and then, after you load the movie via mediahouse, in mx player you can click on menu>subtitles>open and select the file from your local storage where you saved it.
I hope this works.
Don't forget to click the thanks button

Thank you. This is not so comfortable, but I guess it should work.
I have posted a question to the author of mediaHouse, perhaps there is a more elegant solution...

Animor said:
Thank you all for your help!
I have made several trials according to your advices. The problem is indeed the wifi.
I have copied a movie that didn't run well through wifi to my N10 ("The Host" - 12GB), and it ran just fine with both BS and MX!
I have also tried "birds" from the post above me. When I tried to run it through wifi:
- MX player with hw+ was completely stuck on the first picture.
- BS player with experimental decoding was very bad, but a bit better than MX.
I have tried it with the N10 very close to the router, so it's not bad wifi reception.
When I copied "birds" file to my N10, it ran just fine with both MX and BS. Since it's 40mps bluray, it's much heavier than any of my 10-15GB movies in terms of mpbs.
Anyway, the problem is indeed caused by the wifi, which is a major bottleneck. Now the question is where is exactly the problem: the router (I have N type router)? N10 wifi? my computer wired Ethernet connection to the router?
How do regular streamers work with 1080p content?
Can I do anything to fix this bottleneck? Perhaps a better router?
What if I use usb OTG and connect USB DOK directly to the N10, do you think it may work?
Thanks again for your help!
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Here is an alternate OTG solution that I use for HD content of all types.(OTG USB Gigabit Ethernet adapter). Just a thought. Note that the drivers for this adapter are in the stock ROM.
http://goo.gl/v2nwLa

I've found another solution:
Using MKVmerge, you can easily merge mkv and srt file. It takes only 2-3 minutes for a movie. Output file is mkv file with embedded subtitles. I've checked it and MX player shows the subtitles just fine via MediaHouse.
Download from here.

Hi!
It took a while but I read the whole thread! I'm happy that you mostly solved your issue, about the Wi-Fi issue it's caused by your LAN speed, I use my old Xoom as media server here, sometimes it becomes really laggy, I solved this problem connecting both the devices (Nexus 10 and Xoom) on my S4 hotspot, believe this is FAST! Using SuperBeam app I usually get from 35-40Mbps. I think most of the android phones with hotspot functionality may have good speeds.
I use Bubble UPnP BTW! Also, if you think too uncomfortable having to manually select your subtitle, I believe BS Player still downloads it automatically and put on auto too. It used to do this with me, I don't know if it still downloads .
Well, those are just some more alternatives you may want to try . As there are some good solutions over there!
All the best,
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Great news, people!
 @bv90andy
I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't!
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
Enjoy!
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about the Wi-Fi issue it's caused by your LAN speed
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You are mistaken - read again the thread. The bottleneck is not the LAN speed or the router, it's smb/cisf protocol, which is too slow to stream 1080p videos. Using uPnP protocol instead of smb/cisf, over the same LAN and with the same router, we have managed to solves the issue.

Animor said:
Great news, people!
@bv90andy
I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't!
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
Enjoy!
ps:You are mistaken - read again the thread. The bottleneck is not the LAN speed or the router, it's smb/cisf protocol, which is too slow to stream 1080p videos. Using uPnP protocol instead of smb/cisf, over the same LAN and with the same router, we have managed to solves the issue.
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Thanks for sharing that.