I am used to restore my apps with titanium backup after flashing new rom.
After restoring, I will move all my user apps to internal storage with the function "Move user apps to Internal memory".
Here I have to give sebastiaan15 a huge thanks for his rom "Runnymede 5.3", it's truly amazing!!!!
Let's go down to business. Because sebastiaan15's rom is really too smooth, I was thinking what will happen if I move some apps to SD card with original method?
Yap, my desire crashed. Because I moved apps with function "Move user apps to the SD card" in titanium backup and I forgot that there is some phone only apps.
Actually, I didn't know that function too much. That was the reason why I troubled myself.
Afterward I searched this issue on google. I saw much people had same problem as me and the only answer was reflashing the rom.
I've reflashed my desire without a newer backup. The last backup is few weeks ago. Sadly, my data of angry birds three stars has gone.
Here is what I want to tell you guys....
DO NOT USE TITANIUM TO MOVE APPS TO SD CARD!!!
No offense, but titanium works fine if you use it corrrectly. I have to say, I think this is user error.
But if you're using a rom with a2sd+ you shouldn't be moving anything to SD card anyway.. Because then you are splitting apps accros /data, /SDCARD and /SD-EXT which is just WRONG!
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No offense, but titanium works fine if you use it corrrectly. I have to say, I think this is user error.
But if you're using a rom with a2sd+ you shouldn't be moving anything to SD card anyway.. Because then you are splitting apps accros /data, /SDCARD and /SD-EXT which is just WRONG!
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Yes, it's my bad.
Curiosity killed the cat XD
Without a doubt, titanium is the best backup software, that's why I'm still using it.
I just want to tell you guys my tragedy and I think this function is not really often be used, especially we are using a2sd+.
Thanks for your explanation of why we shouldn't move anything to sd if we are using a2sd+, have a nice day
I no longer use an ext partition for a2sd+ and have used titanium to move user apps many times with no problems.
Even with a2sd+ it should work, but its not recommended as mentioned above.
Some advise, when you are playing games and made heavy progress like your 3 stars on all levels of angry birds, if your using titanium you should back up app + data then copy your titanium folder to you PC.
Back when I was a flash-o-holic I’d make heavy progress on a game while using one rom and then I’d change my ROM and lose my data until I discovered that TB actually backs up your progress.
So now when I set a high score or beat a certain level back up app + data then you can flash and reflash and you wont lose the data.
Also if your flashing frequently I also suggest S-OFF and use the CM7R2 HBOOT and AmaRullz AD2SDX script loads of space with no need to move apps anywhere
Of course, you have to be carefully when you are using titanium backup I use titanium backup for longer time and I have never had any problem. All my apps are in internal memory and I haven't got not enought free space. As you may know you can set autobackup of your apps and system settings for every day
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Hmm you really shouldn't be telling everyone not to use titanium to move apps to sd card because you made an error. It want the app's fault. I use titanium to move apps all the time and no problems whatsoever.
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In order to move all apps to / from SD I use App2SD, which is all you need.
Blaming Titanium for a usage error is not fair, though. Titanium is a very powerful tool. Sometimes, those powerful tools can be used to do something "not so good".
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Titanium back up..... i am not use this app because i am confused !!
How is it confusing?
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I need someone to give me a course "backing up 101" ... I have so many questions I do not know where to begin. I have muddled through rooting and things are running ok. I have even put CM7 on an SD card and it works but I do not understand about backing up:
Why do people backup individual apps when you could re-download them from market?
How do you backup "everything" (like all your apps at once and/or plus the ROM itself)?
When you backup something that is in internal memory (that's EMMC, right?) where does it back up to (my desktop? SD card? more internal memory?)
What programs (apps) do you use for backing up?
Any backing up info you would like to share would be very appreciated. Thank you.
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I need someone to give me a course "backing up 101" ... I have so many questions I do not know where to begin. I have muddled through rooting and things are running ok. I have even put CM7 on an SD card and it works but I do not understand about backing up:
Why do people backup individual apps when you could re-download them from market?
How do you backup "everything" (like all your apps at once and/or plus the ROM itself)?
When you backup something that is in internal memory (that's EMMC, right?) where does it back up to (my desktop? SD card? more internal memory?)
What programs (apps) do you use for backing up?
Any backing up info you would like to share would be very appreciated. Thank you.
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People back up roms with clockworkmod in case you have issues or want to flash another rom and something goes wrong allowing you to revert back to the old one. That backup is stored on your nooks sd card. People back up apps with Titanium backup from the market. You can save the app plus the data (gmail for example). Those are stored on your nooks sd card as well. If you have a lot of apps, in my opinion, it is easier to restore from titanium than redownload each one. Both clockworkmod and titanium backup creates folders on the sd card and recalls them when needed. You would not have to concern yourself with doing anything but choosing to back up or choosing to restore.
I make backups of the ROM because i'm constantly messing it and sometimes it's easier to restore it then try and fix what i've goofed up.
Using Titanium Backup i do a batch backup of all my apps at once, and if i need to restore even one app from it It's saved all data.
Backup ROM -keeps Angry Birds
Backup Angry Birds - saves all my completed levels.
I have tmous with 16GB card with a 1GB ext partition. I would like to move my apps back to the internal storage and recover my 1GB.
The second part is easy, what I would like to know is if there's an easy way to move the content of the ext partition to internal storage (without uninstalling and reinstalling all the apps).
Would making a fresh nandroid, removing ext, then recovering nandroid work?
I'd go ahead and give it a shot, but as this has become my work phone, can't really afford too much downtime. Hence, looking for advice...
Thanks in advance.
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Titanium backup makes it quite easy for me to install 50+ apps in under 10 minutes with the only downtime of rebooting once..
1 backup via Titanium
2 move data from card to pc
3 format card
4 pack data on card
5 reboot ( only downtime but necessary so that the ROM detects that there is no ext partition)
6 install Titanium
7 restore via Titanium
I am sure there are nicer and more elegant ways ( via adb ) but this one prove to be working for me.
The only issue might be that you run out of internal memory but in titanium you can check how much of your 1gb is used and how much internal memory is available.
Hope it helps
EDIT: just read about " Advanced restore" in cwm where you only restore data.. maybe worth a try..
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I've had really poor Results with titanium lately. About 1/3 fail to restore properly. Seems there must be a mount point I can dd to?
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Is there a quick way to (re)install all my apps after changing ROMs?
Been using Pongster's awesome NAND HyperDroid build since v5 and have been upgrading along the way by reinstalling the data section from my CWM backup. Recently on v11 I started having a few glitches and upgrading to v12 only made matters much worse. I just want to start a fresh on v12, but is there a way quicker than writing down all my apps then selecting each from the market. Have looked in Android Market on using desktop PC and it only lists 11 apps. Thanks.
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Is there a quick way to (re)install all my apps after changing ROMs?
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I believe Titanium Backup Pro is the most popular choice, it can restore all your apps and data automatically, plus there's an option to repair missing market links.
That rom uses an ext partition, so as well as restoring the data partition after a fresh flash, if you also restore the sd-ext partition (same method), all your installed apps will be restored, complete with all their settings still in place, since you are restoring data too.
D'oh, and double d'oh. Thanks for the tips. I backed everything up using Titanium backup. Being running HyperDroid without an EXT partition so while I was in the process of installing v12 again, I thought I'd use the handy partition function in ClockworkMod. However, what it fails to mention is in re-partition my SD Card for me it would handily wipe everything Looks like I'm hosed now anyway!
nooOO!, hah, oh well, it happens, and theres no better learning curve than seeing mistakes in action.
I literally had the SD card in my desktop to copy everything on it, but before I did, I put the SD back into the phone to do something else ... never got around to doing that copy. At least phone numbers are backed up on Google (I hope!), but I guess I'll have to start again on Tower Raiders 2, that's the real loss!!
since you are at a fresh start, you COULD try reinstalling all the apps, and THEN restore the data partition, which (unless im wrong) holds settings? ,,though i know some stuff uses folders on the fat32 part of the sd card too, , so may not work, , worth a try if you're in an investigative frame of mind.
Ok I had memory issues when I went from the Backflip to the Flipside. But thankfully links2sd made a huge difference and i was able to get all the apps I wanted using that nifty little app. Now however after this update I can't even get half the apps I had on 2.1, and that is with using Links2sd. I've tried getting rid of ATT bloatware, moving some apps to systems apps, and clearing davlik cache using Titanium Backup but it only does so much. Anyone have any solutions to get more internal storage or a better way to get apps onto the SD card because this is making the update almost not worth it...and what's worse is that we cant even revert back to 2.1 without bricking the phone....sad day!
I'm having pretty much the same issues, but I'm wondering how you moved apps to the system apps? This would be helpful to me.
How much internal memory do you have free? I have about 45mb which is less then half of what I had before the update. Im not sure what is taking up the memory. Ive removed what I can and feel is safe with Ti Backup and moved my apps with Link2SD to my SD card.
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I'm having pretty much the same issues, but I'm wondering how you moved apps to the system apps? This would be helpful to me.
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This is done via titanium backup. Long press on the app and the menu gives you the option to convert to sys app.
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This is done via titanium backup. Long press on the app and the menu gives you the option to convert to sys app.
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Yea that's how I moved it to system.
And I have about 20MB after moving a few apps and moving some to system....ugh this is frustrating
I have my wife's phone running on 60mgs free...
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How much internal memory do you have free? I have about 45mb which is less then half of what I had before the update. Im not sure what is taking up the memory. Ive removed what I can and feel is safe with Ti Backup and moved my apps with Link2SD to my SD card.
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I have 2 or 3 apps installed (Facebook and whatnot) and I have roughly 32mb after clearing davick (or whatever it's called)
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I have my wife's phone running on 60mgs free...
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Really, how? How many apps do you have? I have about 17 apps
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Really, how? How many apps do you have? I have about 17 apps
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Just basics
Adfree
Adobe flash
Adobe reader
Adwlauncher
Fruit ninja
Pandora
Jorte
Jw reader
Lik2sd
Maps
Market
Palmary weatherb pro
Pure messenger widget
Quick boot
Titanium backup
I also added opera, and that brought it down to 50megs
Tadaaaaaa.....
Hey, I just posted the SBF in the Flipside Android Development part of the forum and I flashed that and it appears that this version of 2.2.2 runs better with links2sd and has significantly made a difference in freeing up memory. I'm gonna play around with it some more but it appears to have links2sd running as well as it did when I had 2.1. Some of you may want to consider backing up and reflashing the update. Just something to consider. I'll post an update again soon after I play around with it a bit.
Do you know how much space was available on /data when you fresh flashed it?
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So, I ended up breaking something, as usual, and had to reflash, so I used the fresh 2.2 sbf. Turns out there's roughly 74mb free on /data when you first flash, although that quickly drops as the system apps (maps, market, and flash offhand) are brought up to date.
You're right!!!
My wife's phone is down to 55 megs!!!
Sorry, I meant to post again after my last post but my phone kept freezing on the red Moto screen everytime I flashed the update and I took my phone back to AT&T 3 times this past weekend only to find out it was my SD card causing the problems. Just FYI if you partition your SD card to use link2sd make sure your second partition is set as primary otherwise the 2.2 Froyo update will completely shutdown as soon as you put your card in and will not let you do ANYTHING!
That being said, you definitely have better memory after flashing the SBF as opposed to the other methods i've tried for the update. I was able to install almost all the apps and games I had previously (some I didn't add just cuz I hadn't been using em). Everything runs smoother for me and I havent had any freezing or anything. Hope this update is running well for you guys
I'm reluctant to move many things over to system apps, personally... Don't forget that link2sd won't link the dalvik-cache of system apps, so you'd actually have more free space in /data by leaving it as a user app and just linking app/dalvik/lib. I'm at roughly 95mb free currently, with a pretty reasonable amount of stuff installed, so I'm much happier now.
Another space-saving trick I've found: Titanium Backup has a folder in /data that it uses as a temp file storage, any time you restore a backup it moves the .apk over there then installs it. It's located at /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files, and also contains busybox, sqlite3, and your license file. If you're restoring a backup of a large app, this means you need a pretty large amount of space free to do so, which can be difficult on our phones. You can move this folder over to the second sd card partition that link2sd uses and symlink it without problems. Here's a (probably ugly) method:
Code:
cd /data/sdext2
mkdir tbfiles
cp /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files/* ./tbfiles
rm -Rf /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files
ln -s /data/sdext2/tbfiles /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files
Actually....
If you have auto-link on... and move it to system with tibu... it will link the cache...
Why are you linking lib files... when you reboot... they go back to internal... you'll have memory issues at reboot that way...
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The file I manually link isn't a lib, or at least it doesn't get linked by Link2SD when you link TitaniumBackup's libs. The link stays through a reboot and hasn't caused me any issues so far, it just makes less free space required to restore backups.
As for linking libs in general, while they do tend to get unlinked on reboot, I have plenty of free space to let them exist in /data, and the newest Link2SD has a one-touch option to relink them all again to recover that space. It's not an issue unless you're linking libs and also filling your /data partition near the max.
I've owned my OG EVO since launch day, and have been rooted/flashing various ROMs ever since.
I've always had the app "App2SD" loaded, to make moving apps to external storage easier.
Looking at flashing other ROMs recently, I noticed some talk about supporting A2SD naively, and scripts and such. What is the difference between using the app or this naive solution?
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The app ur referring to only moves the data for apps to the SD card, if u use dark tremors a2sd it moves the entire app and all its data. U must have a partitioned SD card to use it though.
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Hmmm... So DarkTremors A2SD is something that is built into the ROM? I guess I'm wondering how one would utilize that built-in capability after the ROM is loaded...
I didn't realize the Apps2SD only moved the data. It seemed to move the app too by looking at free space and how it was affected by using it...
if i understand it right... its not "included" in the rom. You need to download and flash the script, but the rom and kernel of most roms support it. It is well worth it. I did this not long after rooting. I partitioned my 32GB sdcard and flashed DT a2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938
Thanks for the link I've seen a boat load of posts scattered about but never saw one dedicated topic. Looks like I have some reading to do so I can figure out what, if any, drawbacks or quirks there are to using this.
Thanks again!
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So I've made it through a couple of pages on the linked thread, and the answer may be there (but I haven't gotten to it yet)... How does partitioning the SD card affect Nandroid backups/restore or Titanium Backup, if at all? I know that Nandroid has an "SD-ext" option... I assume this is for backup/restore of the EXT formatted portion of the card? Are Nandroid backups stored on the FAT formatted partitions still?
Sorry for all of the questions; just things I thought of before trudging through 34 pages of forum posts...
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Am i able to do this with the stock sd card that came with the evo ?
Yes, but unless your ROM supports Dark Tremors A2SD, the system won't be able to utilize the EXT formatted space on the card, from what I am gathering...
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im running Miui. Think it supports it. Its just the how.
Unfortunately,I can't answer that yet. Haven't read enough of the previously linked forum topic
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Nandroid and tb remain on the storage partition, the FATS32 or whichever one your recovery uses. The ext- partition holds just the apps and data. Wont affect your backups in any way to my knowledge. Remember to back up all your data you want to keep to your pc or something before partitioning as it formats your sd card first.
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Nandroid and tb remain on the storage partition, the FATS32 or whichever one your recovery uses. The ext- partition holds just the apps and data. Wont affect your backups in any way to my knowledge. Remember to back up all your data you want to keep to your pc or something before partitioning as it formats your sd card first.
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Thanks for the info!
Ive been using DT Apps2sd for a while now. I have the stock 8gb card that came with my evo and its partitioned for apps2sd. From what Ive always understood, what apps2sd does is it moves all your apps and the data for those apps to the ext partition of your sd card and it symlinks the apps to the phone so the phone actually thinks the apps are running from the internal memory even though it isn't. The advantage of the symlink is that it doesn't affect the apps' performance and widgets and such. The apps2sd app you speak of only moves the data to the sd card which can sometimes cause issues with apps' performance and widgets not working correctly. So, I recommend using DT apps2sd if you want more internal space without sacrificing performance.
Nice explanation I think my confusion had always been how it's utilized; with the app, I open it when I want to move something and it does it. With DT, it looks like you flash it, but after that I'm lost... Does it automatically install all apps to the SD anytime I initiate an installer action? Or do I need to do something to have the system install to the SD?
I'll find the answer in my reading I'm sure. Another 25ish pages, according to Tapatalk on my phone
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Also am trying to find how to install this... Do you flash the ROM, flash A2SD, then simply reboot and all is well (assuming the ROM supports A2SD, and mounts SD-EXT during boot)?
here is some more info from what i understand. flash your rom, flash dt a2sd and reboot. once its all set, it automatically installs apps you download to the ext partition. also... if you decide to change roms, it is recommended to wipe the ext partition, but i never do and have had no issues. The only thing i have to do is once the new rom and a2sd are flashed and i reboot i have to install the terminal app and open it up any type the following commands...
su [ENTER]
a2sd reinstall [ENTER]
this reinstally the links to the apps... you can also move dalvik cache to the sd to free up more space.
a2sd cachesd [ENTER]
another helpful tool to make sure cache and apps are on the ext partition is apps2sd gui
you can get it from the market and it is just a graphical interface
here is a partitioning walkthrough if you need it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
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Nice explanation I think my confusion had always been how it's utilized; with the app, I open it when I want to move something and it does it. With DT, it looks like you flash it, but after that I'm lost... Does it automatically install all apps to the SD anytime I initiate an installer action? Or do I need to do something to have the system install to the SD?
I'll find the answer in my reading I'm sure. Another 25ish pages, according to Tapatalk on my phone
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After you flash DT, you would want to download terminal emulator from the play store and type the following commands:
Type "su" then enter
Then type "a2sd reinstall" (without the "" of course lol) then enter
After you do that, let the phone do its thing and it will reboot. After the reboot, you are good. All your apps should be moved to the ext partition on your sd card. If you want, you can also move your dalvik-cache to the ext partition by typing the following commands:
"su", enter
"a2sd cachesd", enter
Just like before, your phone will do its thing in terminal emulator and then it will reboot. After that, you're good! You should notice a HUGE difference in available internal storage after this.
*EDIT: I didn't even notice the post above mine until after i sent the post lol
dbenney/youngchris: You guys/girls (hey, I don't know...) put the missing pieces together for me I didn't realize that you had to run commands in terminal AFTER flashing your ROM and then DT (I've seen references to commands, but thought that they were similar to the old rooting/flashing guides back in the day, that required ADB push/pull commands before flashable zips became the norm). So...
There were a few ROMs I flashed 6 months or so ago, that 'required' A2SD and I didn't do it. Subsequently, the ROMs didn't have much free space, with all of the Sense 3.0-3.5, and ran like ****, so I went back to CM7. Now, I am putting this together, so I can get the E4G decked out (because we all know our EVOlt won't be around for a while) and am looking for sharp looking/behaving ROMs to make this old beast happy, and keep me satisfied until Customs gets off their lazy asses.
I just have to find a ROM that is nice enough now
vwgtiturbo said:
dbenney/youngchris: You guys/girls (hey, I don't know...) put the missing pieces together for me I didn't realize that you had to run commands in terminal AFTER flashing your ROM and then DT (I've seen references to commands, but thought that they were similar to the old rooting/flashing guides back in the day, that required ADB push/pull commands before flashable zips became the norm). So...
There were a few ROMs I flashed 6 months or so ago, that 'required' A2SD and I didn't do it. Subsequently, the ROMs didn't have much free space, with all of the Sense 3.0-3.5, and ran like ****, so I went back to CM7. Now, I am putting this together, so I can get the E4G decked out (because we all know our EVOlt won't be around for a while) and am looking for sharp looking/behaving ROMs to make this old beast happy, and keep me satisfied until Customs gets off their lazy asses.
I just have to find a ROM that is nice enough now
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There are plenty of good sense roms out there, but you really should try this one... Energy sense 3.5 rom march 15.... i used it before i switched to CIUI(base of CM7 with MIUI look/feel). Energy rom is very stable and fast, but also heavy and a2sd is a must to free up some space.
Do you know of any kernels that work with it? It uses the stock kernel, which, from what I've read, doesn't support DT A2SD...
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