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Anyone know what the average price for 3d games are?
Thinking of turning a fps game, a tank game, into an android app. Or maybe even bring farmville to it.
I know it's not cheap, but wondering if anyone knew what the price range would be.

That's relative. Depends of a few factors, like the type of game, the level, features etc. Few of them runs for like $4.99, so goes for $9.99. Just search the market for keyword "3d" or "3d game" and see if I can get a pattern or something to work with.
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lol I meant like developing the game itself. hiring a team of coders to make the app.

Lmao, my bad def.ly will be high. Thought u were saying u can or you are going to do it yourself and would like to know how much to sell it for.
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For a **** game you are probably looking at a minimum of $3,000 US. For a quality job, at least $10,000.

dallashigh said:
For a **** game you are probably looking at a minimum of $3,000 US. For a quality job, at least $10,000.
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I was thinking around there as well. Right now I'm thinking about taking all the zynga fb apps, and converting them for android. Most of the zynga apps are 2d, and not that extensive. I think i could get each one done for 3-5k. What you think?
@jahnile - I want to get it done, like get it coded by someone else.

Last-Chance said:
I was thinking around there as well. Right now I'm thinking about taking all the zynga fb apps, and converting them for android. Most of the zynga apps are 2d, and not that extensive. I think i could get each one done for 3-5k. What you think?
@jahnile - I want to get it done, like get it coded by someone else.
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Yea got u now. For a quality game never knew it was that high ,wow.
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jahnile said:
Yea got u now. For a quality game never knew it was that high ,wow.
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they can cost a lot more. I was thinking of getting an fps based tank game done. I found it online on some website, and it had chat, you could buy upgrades and stuff. Was based in flash. Got a quote on getting it recoded for a fb app, and they wanted like 45k for it.

Now that's bread,so it all depends on how much u willing to spent.
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Last-Chance said:
they can cost a lot more. I was thinking of getting an fps based tank game done. I found it online on some website, and it had chat, you could buy upgrades and stuff. Was based in flash. Got a quote on getting it recoded for a fb app, and they wanted like 45k for it.
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That would be heavy gunner, already been done. Id like to see a fps online multiplayer game. Like doom or halo, something like that with stats, exp points, live chat and objectives I think that would be a huge hit. I know theres toon wars but something more realistic.

ANY FPS game in 3d is going to be an absolute minimum of 10k... you are looking at something more like 100k if you want to do what I think you do.

phatmanxxl said:
That would be heavy gunner, already been done. Id like to see a fps online multiplayer game. Like doom or halo, something like that with stats, exp points, live chat and objectives I think that would be a huge hit. I know theres toon wars but something more realistic.
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nah, the tank game I found was a lot different. It would have 50-60 different tanks with upgrades, missles, etc.. And you could move in any direction, and aim and fire. There would be about 5-10 people playing per map. The front end was made in flash while the backend was java (i think. from my analysis of the http packets, it looked to be java running).
I'll see if i can find a link. My friend told me about it first, and in order to check it out I had to make an account. After few minutes of "testing" it out, it got addicting. Was sitting their playing it for an hour or so.
edit: found it
http://tankionline.com/en/
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be warned, VERY addictive. Although if i were to make that into an android app, I would make some changes to it like speed and controls.

Nova Kicks Ass

Well including three demo of Nova in 3.70 sucked me in. I paid the $5 because this game is really cool!
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I agree. I was pleasantly surprised by both the performance of the game, and the fact that although it may be called "bloatware", in reality it adds minimal to internal storage (most of the data is stored on SD which I don't mind).

I picked it up a few months ago, its pretty bomb. Modern Combat: Sandstorm is absolutely AWESOME too.

AdamHart612 said:
I picked it up a few months ago, its pretty bomb. Modern Combat: Sandstorm is absolutely AWESOME too.
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I will have to check out Modern Combat too then. Thanks!
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I prefer simple games like poker or speed x. What if you guys are into the 3 d stuff check out some of the racing games
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Adam is your offical copy working?
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I picked it up a few months ago, its pretty bomb. Modern Combat: Sandstorm is absolutely AWESOME too.
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Ok so Adam did you install 3.70? Are you rooted? If so did you get your old official copy of NOVA working? Mine won't it just glitches and hangs?
Any answers would be awesome as I can't play NOVA anymore without REBUYING it BOOOO
Thanks,
Adan

Nova 2 looks even better, dont know if its coming to android. Also don't know if our evos can handle it.
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Yeah gamelofts process of selling is horrible. They need to join the android market. Especially with all the talk on the blogs about them ripping people off. I have been using a titanium restore so I've been ok playing NOVA. I think they right now only offer 90 days that you can redownload aka update. Which is retarded. The games are great but gameloft needs to rethink their android business model quick
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O and yeah im rooted (obviously lol) and running cm6.1 at the moment. Works fine on my NS too
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Well CRAP
Doh well that answers the question Adam,
You don't have to worry about what Sprint did to our EVOs when it comes to NOVA as you arent using even a loose version of the RUU... ahhh well...
As for rethinking their business model I hear you, it's way to hard to get support or help with these issues from them. Not to mention even finding the games is so backwards its almost in opposite land...

Adanedhels said:
Doh well that answers the question Adam,
You don't have to worry about what Sprint did to our EVOs when it comes to NOVA as you arent using even a loose version of the RUU... ahhh well...
As for rethinking their business model I hear you, it's way to hard to get support or help with these issues from them. Not to mention even finding the games is so backwards its almost in opposite land...
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Yeah. I wanna say android central (maybe phandroid....cant remember) ran an article today on them charging people numerous times, etc. If they wanna be a serious player why arent they on the market? As easy as it should be, gameloft comes off as shady. And yeah, their stuff is a pain to buy, download, and install. You would think they would wanna cure that issue. Joining the market would do that and alleviate everyones fears of being scammed.

no prob..
well i had the full version of nova before the update, im all stock. and after the update I still have the full version, no changes.

you can actually get modern combat sandstorm for free at getjar.com! it is a fun game and was made free there because of what adam said.
getjar.com/mobile/48512/modern-combat-sandstorm/

I like just wish they would get over themselves and put the games on the market

evoftw said:
you can actually get modern combat sandstorm for free at getjar.com! it is a fun game and was made free there because of what adam said.
getjar.com/mobile/48512/modern-combat-sandstorm/
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I checked but it's just demo. That's what you meant, right?
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aerajan said:
I checked but it's just demo. That's what you meant, right?
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oh darn it, sorry for getting your hopes up. the article was misleading and so was the description. my bad

I don't think they charge you if you activate the demo copy after having already bought it. I got NOVA back in late july, and just activated the demo. It said purchase, but didn't go through the normal process, so I don't think I paid for it. I'll try to post back here in a month when I get my next bill to confirm, but I'm pretty sure that if its the device that you already activated on, it should be free to activate it. It definitely plays better now that its integrated.
I love all the Gameloft games except for Asphalt 5. Its not a really good racing game. Its ok, but not well optimized for Android. I just got Need for Speed Shift when it came out on the Market on the 16th. So far, its awesome! Really snappy great graphics, and really good racing experience.

Can you use wiimote with these games?
On cm 6 of course. I know it doesn't work on sense.

abmone said:
Can you use wiimote with these games?
On cm 6 of course. I know it doesn't work on sense.
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Probably not since you probably has to be coded in the game.
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nova just hangs on my device. it tries to load then kicks me out to home screen. anyone else have this problem?

[Q] Where to find decent games for the play.

I've had a look in market and the xperia play launcher, the games there are pretty basic and I don't like them that much, they cost too much. i was just wondering if their is a site out there that will allow me to download the best xperia play games for free.

mrbumbastik said:
I've had a look in market and the xperia play launcher, the games there are pretty basic and I don't like them that much, they cost too much. i was just wondering if their is a site out there that will allow me to download the best xperia play games for free.
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I'm sure there is, but asking about warez here is only going to get you banned and have you ever though that the games might be basic because of people like you? what developer would want to make a game, if people are just going to steal it.

There are no decent games and even if there were good ones the controls will suck balls, the touch pads are a joke and who in their right mind would pay 1-10 bucks for a game that can be beat in an hour? I would just stick with fpse
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thatsupnow said:
There are no decent games and even if there were good ones the controls will suck balls, the touch pads are a joke and who in their right mind would pay 1-10 bucks for a game that can be beat in an hour? I would just stick with fpse
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The touch pads work awesome ......
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AndroHero said:
I'm sure there is, but asking about warez here is only going to get you banned and have you ever though that the games might be basic because of people like you? what developer would want to make a game, if people are just going to steal it.
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Mass piracy has not stopped successful games from selling in any platform. The truth is that games are basic because we're not paying premium prices. A price range from 0 to 5 euro a pop won't buy you inventive stories, memorable voice acting and intricate, long gameplay. It will buy you Cut the Rope, Battle Bears or Eternal Legacy.

Too expensive? These games are about £3 at most, with a lot coming under that. The games are good, but the uptake of the play has been a bit slow so devs wont bother optimizing for it! Its down to Sony to get them to port their games across.
IMO the best games you can get are the ones that are pre installed on the play and Dungeon Defenders, other than that FPSE and the ~oid range are your best bets

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The touch pads work awesome ......
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Pfft! No they don't it would of been way better if they managed to get the little Joy stick that is on the psp on this phone
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Logseman said:
Mass piracy has not stopped successful games from selling in any platform. The truth is that games are basic because we're not paying premium prices. A price range from 0 to 5 euro a pop won't buy you inventive stories, memorable voice acting and intricate, long gameplay. It will buy you Cut the Rope, Battle Bears or Eternal Legacy.
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I agree. The majority of people who pirate would likely not buy the movies/games/software anyway. I'm sure some would but most wouldn't. And the games’ being basic is because the devs are developing for the lowest common denominator which is the crapy touch screens. If we do get good Play Only games they will likely come from anyone with a steak in the Xperia Play.

wired84 said:
Too expensive? These games are about £3 at most, with a lot coming under that. The games are good, but the uptake of the play has been a bit slow so devs wont bother optimizing for it! Its down to Sony to get them to port their games across.
IMO the best games you can get are the ones that are pre installed on the play and Dungeon Defenders, other than that FPSE and the ~oid range are your best bets
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Not sure what £3 is in Canadian but the ok games are $5-$7 in Canada. Not worth the chance if you ask me.

ncaissie said:
Not sure what £3 is in Canadian but the ok games are $5-$7 in Canada. Not worth the chance if you ask me.
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You're just a cranky little kid who can't figure out how to play with your controls.
There are alot of good games WITH good controls! I'm in love with Rainbow six, Battlefield 2 and Backstab. But for the most of the time, I play Zelda OOT on N64oid, works like a charm
ncaissie, don't hate.. just sell your phone, buy another one and leave this forum please. You just bringing down the mood.

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The touch pads work awesome ......
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I agree, the touchpad is awesome. Battlefield:bad company 2 has the joystick function that you want in the psp, i hate it?
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_terror_ said:
You're just a cranky little kid who can't figure out how to play with your controls.
There are alot of good games WITH good controls! I'm in love with Rainbow six, Battlefield 2 and Backstab. But for the most of the time, I play Zelda OOT on N64oid, works like a charm
ncaissie, don't hate.. just sell your phone, buy another one and leave this forum please. You just bringing down the mood.
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Go to hell idiot. Just because I don't like spending money on a game that may or may not suck or have broken controls?
If that brings down your mood then you have bigger problems peter pan.

_terror_ said:
You're just a cranky little kid who can't figure out how to play with your controls.
There are alot of good games WITH good controls! I'm in love with Rainbow six, Battlefield 2 and Backstab. But for the most of the time, I play Zelda OOT on N64oid, works like a charm
ncaissie, don't hate.. just sell your phone, buy another one and leave this forum please. You just bringing down the mood.
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ncaissie said:
Go to hell idiot. Just because I don't like spending money on a game that may or may not suck or have broken controls?
If that brings down your mood then you have bigger problems peter pan.
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Lets keep the thread on topic guys, just because there is no mods about, dosent mean we can start acting like thugs

I love my xperia play i got so many games on it its awesome gameloft ones and other ones to. The touchpads work with so many games that it makes u feel like its not a phone but a console. Thats what i love bout it.

faisaldante said:
I love my xperia play i got so many games on it its awesome gameloft ones and other ones to. The touchpads work with so many games that it makes u feel like its not a phone but a console. Thats what i love bout it.
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QFT.
The touchpad/analog controls in some of the games are implimented in different ways. Some are true analog, and others are swipe. Some people like it one way, others like it another. I honestly wish they would allow an option to switch. However, there are plenty of decent games available for this phone, that although they may cost about US$5, that isn't terribly much. A coffee, or a game. even if the game is short, you would probably reach the same amount of enjoyment time from it.
If all else fails, there are some decent to good emulators out there and you can play all the old games you have from back in the day. NES, SNES, Genesis, Master System, NeoGeo, PSX/PS1, N64, etc. I think there is even some MAME goodness floating around for arcade carts/ROMs.
If you can't find a good game that works decently with the controller in that whole huge mess, then I suggest that maybe your criteria is set too high, and you would have problems finding suitable items on any platform at that high of quality requirement at that low of a price.

AndroHero said:
Lets keep the thread on topic guys, just because there is no mods about, dosent mean we can start acting like thugs
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I'm fine with that. I simply gave an opinion and he started with personal attacks.
If he doesn't like my opinions he can skip my posts. It wont hurt my feelings.
ryocoon said:
The touchpad/analog controls in some of the games are implimented in different ways. Some are true analog, and others are swipe. Some people like it one way, others like it another. I honestly wish they would allow an option to switch
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I agree. It would be nice to have the option.

ncaissie said:
I'm fine with that. I simply gave an opinion and he started with personal attacks.
If he doesn't like my opinions he can skip my posts. It wont hurt my feelings.
I agree. It would be nice to have the option.
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I'm sorry if I "attaked you" in any way. But you're very negative 90% of the time. And I'm not the only one who thinks that. You don't have to say that the phone is crap, useless, the controls sucks and so on, because they don't. It's enough to say "I don't like it, it doesn't fits my needs". Just saying.

"You don't have to say that the phone is crap, useless, the controls sucks and so on, because they don't. "
Show me where I ever said that? Quit making **** up. I love the phone. The controls are great if the game is developed properly for them. I have stated many times that the battle bears game has them done right. I have said Gameloft games need better controls. Since I have 6 of them I have a right to state my opinion on them. Most of my posts are questions or helping others.
BTW "You're just a cranky little kid who can't figure out how to play with your controls" Is an attack.

ncaissie said:
"You don't have to say that the phone is crap, useless, the controls sucks and so on, because they don't. "
Show me where I ever said that? Quit making **** up. I love the phone. The controls are great if the game is developed properly for them. I have stated many times that the battle bears game has them done right. I have said Gameloft games need better controls. Since I have 6 of them I have a right to state my opinion on them. Most of my posts are questions or helping others.
BTW "You're just a cranky little kid who can't figure out how to play with your controls" Is an attack.
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Like I said "I'm sorry if I "attaked you" in any way. " I'm not gonna argue with you dude. I'm to old for that.

mrbumbastik said:
I've had a look in market and the xperia play launcher, the games there are pretty basic and I don't like them that much, they cost too much. i was just wondering if their is a site out there that will allow me to download the best xperia play games for free.
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http://www.gameloft.com/android-hd-games/
They aren't free but they are cheaper direct from gameloft than through the V-Cast store. Just pick your game, pick R800x and scan the barcode

Xperia Play

Hi, I was just wondering about this phone. In thinking of getting it because of its gaming pad, but is it as good as its made out to be? Also, the phone in general, good and bad things and whether or not you like it. Literally everything
Thanks!

Jordanooo said:
Hi, I was just wondering about this phone. In thinking of getting it because of its gaming pad, but is it as good as its made out to be? Also, the phone in general, good and bad things and whether or not you like it. Literally everything
Thanks!
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I bought one on saturday from Phones4U £130, there are a few games free for it -Dead Space, sims3 , battlefield- the pad makes it a joy to use, I did have a desire,and chunky fingers meant using the touch screen for gaming was awkward. Although there is some bloatware that cant be removed this phone has been an excellent purchase for that price it runs all the usual Android apps,build quality is ok and you will need a bigger memory card -8GB isnt enough IMO- I havent used the music player yet so I cant comment on that side(despite having 300+ songs on it) best get to a shop and try it

Cool, thanks. The fact that ICS is virtually confirmed makes me want it more
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Anyone you talk to who has this phone will tell you how much they love it. The emulator capabilities alone are worth the phone. Having a phone that acts portable PS1/SNES/NES/Genesis/GBA WITH the gamepad...c'mon it doesn't get any better than that!

Best gaming phone to date. One if the best phones ever
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Just get one mate
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Erikwithafro said:
Anyone you talk to who has this phone will tell you how much they love it. The emulator capabilities alone are worth the phone. Having a phone that acts portable PS1/SNES/NES/Genesis/GBA WITH the gamepad...c'mon it doesn't get any better than that!
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that and the fact that it has an unlocked bootloader! how can you go wrong?

Ya this phone kicks ass big time!! I love my play always on it.. Just got fifa 12 and it's only for the play at this moment. IMO you should get this bad-boy..
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Xperia play runs n64 emu very well.ive downloaded 20 roms and with the controls after you configured them wow.amazing thing is!they all run very smoothly.
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BPE
Best Phone Ever

Looks like I found my christmas present
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You certainly have, I only wanted a new phone and this is easily the best value out there at the £120 (don't forget the £10 christmas day credit that's included). Another £8-£9 for a dock and it's just about perfect. All this before you get to it being a nifty games machine too!
I came from an iPhone and couldn't be happier.

b1g1an said:
You certainly have, I only wanted a new phone and this is easily the best value out there at the £120 (don't forget the £10 christmas day credit that's included). Another £8-£9 for a dock and it's just about perfect. All this before you get to it being a nifty games machine too!
I came from an iPhone and couldn't be happier.
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Know where I can get it for less than £150 on tmobile? That's the cheapest I've seen it
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yeah this phone is awesome! sometimes i wish it was dual core but its so fast who cares!

Yeah, I got spoiled by the game pad quick. I can finally play shadow gun and nova the way it was meant to be because it's so much easier to move, look and shoot at the same time now.
Plus being able to play all my childhood games on snes and n64.
This phone really is a one stop shop. Watch movies, read books, web surf, play games...the best phone I've ever owned.
My next phone will definitely have to have a built in game pad.
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Jordanooo said:
Know where I can get it for less than £150 on tmobile? That's the cheapest I've seen it
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Phones4U as a PAYG upgrade.

Its been bought and is waiting to be opened on christmas can't wait!

GTA 3 CHEAT/HACK! :D (Android)

HEHEHE, I started reading the coding blah blah.... Understood it & it took me 30 secondd to mod the ambulance & its blazing fast & hardly get damaged (Black smoke/blow up) -
Im currently working on it & when ive done im going to release it...
Heres a sneak peak of the ambulance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmPavbEy9F8
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Its a done deal, its here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397327

Your not going to win any awards for your driving thats for sure.

AwaisKhan said:
HEHEHE, I started reading the coding blah blah.... Understood it & it took me 30 secondd to mod the ambulance & its blazing fast & hardly get damaged (Black smoke/blow up) -
Im currently working on it & when ive done im going to release it...
Heres a sneak peak of the ambulance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmPavbEy9F8
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Wait, aren't you the guy who called gta homosexual? why would you even bother with this?

ff7fan4eva said:
Wait, aren't you the guy who called gta homosexual? why would you even bother with this?
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LOL!
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don't question the man, keep going bro, keep up the good work. When people make developments like this, it's good. How'd you access the code? Decompile it with APKManager?

After calling it gay I realised either way I had to start the game from the beginning so I decided to make the process x2 faster, since we download the data to our sd card its alot easier & ive managed to make every car really fast & take lots of damage, my next task is to get the right friction on every car & weight so they dont tip over or lose control.... Dont really know when im going to release the files but it will be within the next couple of days

As much as i apreciate your work. Don't you think your mods will ruin the game? I mean **** blowing up and rolling about is half the fun of the game right?
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AndroHero said:
As much as i apreciate your work. Don't you think your mods will ruin the game? I mean **** blowing up and rolling about is half the fun of the game right?
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They will but I only suggest using them after youve completed the whole game, hehe

Coding..? It's a config file lol.
One which brings back many memories XD

Any chance you can add a Batmobile to the game like you could on the PC version? If you manage this I will be your best friend
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People, just go to gtaplace or something and you can use all of the mods for pc version.
just use imgtool 2.0 to modify the correct gta.img and the correct files eg. Handling.cfg, gta3.dat
I have added the bridge that goes to the ghost town, the intercity highway, and also copied the banshees handling to the taxi while making it heavier

6sicSIX said:
Coding..? It's a config file lol.
One which brings back many memories XD
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yeah but now I want to do that lol
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Well it's located in /sdcard/Android/data/com.rockstar.gta3/files/GTA3/data/handling.cfg
Have fun and remember to backup

6sicSIX said:
People, just go to gtaplace or something and you can use all of the mods for pc version.
just use imgtool 2.0 to modify the correct gta.img and the correct files eg. Handling.cfg, gta3.dat
I have added the bridge that goes to the ghost town, the intercity highway, and also copied the banshees handling to the taxi while making it heavier
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Is it possible you can make a guide for us? Nothing too thorough just how to get started or something. Thank you.

Most of the mods come with instructions.

I have an important question!
Can someone tell me how I can make the game uncut?
I've bought the game and RG released the old cuttet german version and I hate it so much!
I don't know what data I should change or edit and I hope that somebody knows more than me.
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Its a finished product boyssss. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397327

I can't seem to find gta3 anywhere on the market on my phone? But when I look at the market on the computer it comes up? Please help.
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Rigg3L said:
I can't seem to find gta3 anywhere on the market on my phone? But when I look at the market on the computer it comes up? Please help.
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Buy it on the web market and it will auto download on your phone.
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Its finished - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1397327
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