Now that I have had an opportunity to play with the phone, while I will be skipping this device due the poor Yamaha DAC, which is inferior to the one onboard the Galaxy S i9000, I wonder ... is this the optimal size for a phone?
- Smaller phones, when pressed against the ear are too short, which means that the microphone is further away from the mouthpiece
- Bigger screen = better when it comes to browsing, productivity, movies, and games
- This is about as big as you would want for most pockets
- Good sized battery; battery life is respectable for an Android phone
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Now that I have had an opportunity to play with the phone, while I will be skipping this device due the poor Yamaha DAC, I wonder ... is this the optimal size for a phone?
- Smaller phones, when pressed against the ear are too short, which means that the microphone is further away from the mouthpiece
- Bigger screen = better when it comes to browsing, productivity, movies, and games
- This is about as big as you would want for most pockets
- Good sized battery; battery life is respectable for an Android phone
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For me it's as big as I'd feel comfortable with. It's pocketable, and with great high resolution screen. It could probably be quater of an inch smaller diagonally. Definitely more practical than some popular smartphones that don't even go beyond 3.5" diagonal. Don't see any point in that...
Honestly, after a week or so, I'm thinking I could go even bigger (5.8"). The Note's size is very user friendly and pocketable for me.
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Honestly, after a week or so, I'm thinking I could go even bigger (5.8"). The Note's size is very user friendly and pocketable for me.
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It would depend on your pocket size.
This phone is getting bad press for its size.
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For a phone? Doesn't matter - you're not staring at a screen when taking a call after all.
As a computing/entertainment device? Yes it does seem like a good size. Playing games on a 5.3" screen is noticeably more immersive than even a 4.3" screen.
Ultimately it depends on your preference. Personally after almost two weeks with the phone I've grown quite comfortable with the size of it, even though I have relatively small hands. Yes it's not something you'd wanna use one-handed, but otherwise this size is quite acceptable for the massive screen
I noticed I can do a lot more now with this phone. Looking up things on the road, reading a map, jotting down a note, gathering some info and paste it in a note... seems to be (finally) a very natural thing to do with this phone. This size seems just to be right for me.
Another aspect of the size might be the "social acceptability". I think in this time, that's not an issue anymore. It is as pocketable as a pack of cigarettes a few decades ago LoL
I dont think this is the optimal size, it is for me but i cant imagine a small girl using this phone, it would probably look stupid and be uncomfortable for them. My coworker who is about 5'2 looks ridiculous when she holds the phone.
I do not have any issue with the size as far as portability goes. None of my friends or co-workers have commented on the size of the device in a negative way. I few of them wanted to put it in their pockets to test the portability for themselves.
Optimal size, I would have to say no. I love the huge screen, but sometimes my hand starts to get tired like when I'm holding my iPad for extended periods, I even have much larger hands than the average person.
So not the optimal size, but it is the size I desire. I think the S2 is the optimal size.
I use as a phone (and it fits in all my pockets) the 7" Galaxy Tab.
The way I see it, as long as it's pocketable it's a good size.
I agree, I would be excited if the Note 2 was 5.8
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My opinion for optimal size is 4.5-5". Anything in between.
Then you go either too big/heavy for long periods or you go "smaller"(btw come on, 4.3 is not small, we are just spoiled) which is the minimum today for smartphone enthusiasts that wan't a big screen. Just my 0.02c.
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It's a phone - not a hi-fi system. Maybe Linn will make phones one day!
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No issues....
the phone is perfect for me. I have big hands so it fits just fine. It dwarfs my my iPhone 4 and I love it! I'm just new to this Android thing so I'm still trying to figure out how to move my songs. Noob....I know....lol
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the phone is perfect for me. I have big hands so it fits just fine. It dwarfs my my iPhone 4 and I love it! I'm just new to this Android thing so I'm still trying to figure out how to move my songs. Noob....I know....lol
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Not everyone is born a nuclear physicist.
Move songs? Like transferring them in your microSD card and play them through the Media/Music Player?
If so, just put them in your microSD and it should be fine.
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It's a phone - not a hi-fi system. Maybe Linn will make phones one day!
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The DAC is inferior to the one aboard the galaxy s and by a huge margin.
Going back on topic, I think big phones are becoming increasingly fashionable. Has anyone gotten anyone to stare at the phone due to its size?
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Hi Guys
I recently lost my x10 and need a new phone.
This is properbly not the most objective forum to ask what to get
But maybe some of you have tried both over a period of time and can give your opinion?
I have never had an iphone, so I dont know how they are.
What I like with the iphone 4 is:
- The design is great!
- Hardware is equally good as the GS.
- Camera just as good if not better?
What I dont like is:
- Very closed OS
- Only 3,5 " screen
I do not mind the lack of microsd slot, as 32 GB is enouch.
The Galaxy s have a great 4" screen!! and a great OS.
I do not like the design though. looks cheap.
I there was replacement backcovers in metal or rubbery it would be a great step up.
I do not mind the lack of flash, since the night mode is good.
I would be glad to hear your thoughts
seems like you are leaning more to the iphone4 than not
might as well go for iphone4
if you can't find anything that you like on SGS more than iphone4, then there is no much point considering SGS
personally i like Android + SGS
- open to all developers, create what you want, and post it on Android Market
- 4' screen
- faster browsing than iphone4
- better screen colour and quality than retina of iphone4
- SD card slot
- more accessories to choose from
- i can use any software i like
- lots of firmwares to play with
- GPS works better than WM phones and stand along GPS like Garmin 205 or alikes
- great on 3G/HSDPA
- easy to drag and drop my music & videos to the phone
- great bluetooth A2DP Stereo
- i can swap the G7 battery any time, replaceable battery are very affordable on ebay,
- ultra slim smartphone
- FM radio to check on News,
- great 3D GPU for games and other stuff
- tactile and animated live wall papers
- much mucho software, so much that you don't know which apps to pick, and much more coming.
- Android Market is great, once you buy an App, or download an App, it stays in your gmail account, so if you ever switch phone, format, reflash, you just need to click on them again and they are all back!!!!
- system settings can be backed up to your gmail account !!!
- so in the same scenario, you can restore everything to the way it was before any major wipe or hardware replacement
- most apps are compatible with other Android phones, so if you ever get tired of SGS you can always go to HTC, or Acer, or whatever is on the horizon, and still keep all your apps with you.
- Wifi N, really fast, but iphone4 got it too... right?
- SGS can survive more drops than iphone4 can out of the box without protection (see sig for link), however iphone 4 screen cracks easily.
...well that's all i can think of at the moment of reasons why i prefer SGS over iphone4
And you don't have to install f*cking iTunes. What more convincing does one need
elbasso said:
And you don't have to install f*cking iTunes. What more convincing does one need
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oh yes! that was the most important thing, and i forgot about it
no big brother watching over your big stash of music/video that you sync to your phone
Google maps navigation?
Thanks guys!
I have not decided yet.
But the itunes thing I can run through Wine. I am a linux user.
I am dissapointed that the X10 did not have any sofware for linux. I had to use windows to upgrade! What is that about?? android is based on linux and I have to use windows!!
How is it with upgrades on galaxy s? Is it over the air or do I need windows??
it depends on the carrier for over the air
it is predominant in windows
but there is a Heimdall cross platform (win, linux, mac) app that is being develop to update via any OS
Played with an iPhone 4, did not like. First off, it felt like a brick. Secondly, it is plastic with the only alluminium part being along the side so no difference there. The retina display is overated and is quite small when you compare the Galaxy S to it.
Saying that the Galaxy S looks cheap, I've had many who say it looks rich. Only when it's covered in smudges does it look cheap, but what phone doesn't? Many compliment the screen quality, size and weight. Viewing web pages on it is amazing, the font is so easy to read without even zooming in. In the looks department, many compare it to the iPhone. It doesn't look like an iPhone when you put the two together. Build quality is solid and it is a very light phone thanks to the plastic. It only feels cheap when you take the back plate off.
The hardware is awesome. I've had no real issues with GPS so I think that is a problem for the American models. The standard Galaxy S works great out of the box assuming you disable TouchWiz and install a decent home screen. Customisability is also a great feature with the Android OS.
I'm looking forward for the Froyo update. What I'm hoping for is some improvement to the battery life. That's the only thing I dislike but that's probably linked to some application I've installed.
Either way, I'm sorry for your loss and I hope you purchase a phone that you'll hopefully enjoy.
Feel/Build Quality:
The iphone will need a case because of the antenna problem which completely negates allot of the money spent on the build quality
The galaxy s you will want a case to protect it and give it a premium feel
Result: Tie
Media:
For viewing media both phones have comparable screens, personally i BARELY see pixels on my ~166 dpi pc screen, and can see none atall on the 800x480 screen on the galaxy s even when holding the phone up close so the whole resolution hype for the iphone 4 is a load of rubbish.
Both screens are (i believe) 24 bit so the colour capabilities are the same
Galaxy S has better contrast, faster response, better viewing angles
Iphone 4 has sharper text if straining your eyes to read fully zoomed out text on a small screen is your thing
To be honest they are both comparable experiences, allthough the galaxy has a bigger screen which is a minor win, and the iphone 4 has a HORRIBLE aspect ratio, not sure what apple were thinking there...
Result: Tie
Hardware:
Galaxy S 1ghz hummingbird SGX540 gpu
Iphone 4 ~700mhz A4 (hummingbird) SGX535 gpu (30% the performance of the 540)
Result: Galaxy S
Software:
While the android os is getting much better the iphone still wins here, the galaxy s has lots of software bugs which although are easy to fix, are annoying to have to deal with in the first place.
Result: Iphone 4
Overall:
Really its down to whether you can justify the price tag on the iphone, as with all apple products you are paying about 45% more just for the logo
I got my Galaxy S for £340 in the UK, the iphone is £500
If money was not an issue then sure, the iphone wins due to the better software
recently there was a google news about iphone4 owners gets more chicks than other phones
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20013268-71.html
and
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/16/iphone-users-have-more-sex/
maybe that's Apple's selling point?
Billus said:
Played with an iPhone 4, did not like. First off, it felt like a brick. Secondly, it is plastic with the only alluminium part being along the side so no difference there. The retina display is overated and is quite small when you compare the Galaxy S to it.
Saying that the Galaxy S looks cheap, I've had many who say it looks rich. Only when it's covered in smudges does it look cheap, but what phone doesn't? Many compliment the screen quality, size and weight. Viewing web pages on it is amazing, the font is so easy to read without even zooming in. In the looks department, many compare it to the iPhone. It doesn't look like an iPhone when you put the two together. Build quality is solid and it is a very light phone thanks to the plastic. It only feels cheap when you take the back plate off.
The hardware is awesome. I've had no real issues with GPS so I think that is a problem for the American models. The standard Galaxy S works great out of the box assuming you disable TouchWiz and install a decent home screen. Customisability is also a great feature with the Android OS.
I'm looking forward for the Froyo update. What I'm hoping for is some improvement to the battery life. That's the only thing I dislike but that's probably linked to some application I've installed.
Either way, I'm sorry for your loss and I hope you purchase a phone that you'll hopefully enjoy.
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Thanks mate
I used ADW home screen on my x10 and it was great!!
The thing I most dislike about the iphone is the screen size! going from 4" x10 screen to 3,5" may be difficult!
in my case i went from a 5" to a 4"
that's why going to a 3.5" was realy too much to lose
We all know why we like the Samsung Galaxy S, but why don't I personally like the iPhone 4?
1. If I purchased it depending on my usage, I would have paid almost twice for it that the SGS. I know, WTFMAN.
2. iTunes. Some people love it, then again, some people like being (insert expletive here).
3. Smaller screen. Played with my colleague's iPhone 4 and the first thing I noticed was "damn does that status bar look tiny" and it went on from there. Retina is way too overhyped. The colors, the blacks, and everything else (except the battery life) for Super AMOLED is great... ON a 4" screen.
4. App Store is biased against PR0N. Sorry, but some very good apps have been removed because some stupid Apple fanboy decided to use it for the wrong reason.
Bottom line for me is that there were just too many more negatives on the iPhone than there are on Android.
Thanks all!
I think I am going for the SGS Mony is not an issue though.
One thing. Is the metal ring real metal or just crome plastic?
brodos123 said:
Thanks all!
Mony is not an issue though.
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If that's the case, get them both!
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If that's the case, get them both!
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hehehe
Not a big price difference in Norway
personally i love my sgs but this is an sgs forum if we didnt we have a different phone by now
the iphone is more basic if ur less tech savvy smaller screen (better screen(i think apple tryed to get amoled but couldn't so went with 2nd best )apple is very picky about what u can and cant do
android phones in general you can do A lot more customization i personally like the lay out more has potential to be anything you want through custom roms
sgs amazing screen probally keeping alot of people from leaving after this recovery mode bs (i know it kept me) very fast very good for games
buggy/laggy at times but every thing eles makes up for it when frayo comes out wow the sgs is gonna be amazing
PS. Check every thing out before you leave i just got a new sgs today with recovery mode and now ive noticed its got a dead pixel 4th sgs here i come Q/A is terrible right now
its just chrome plastic
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its just chrome plastic
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Thanks!
Guess the phone would be havier if it was metal
LoL. Great! If thing that comes up in your mind when it comes to buying a phone is iPhone. LOL.
Mate, get an Android, especially SGS.
Introducing GALAXY Note!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxjopfC1Gs&feature=channel_video_title
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Hm, for me, the screen is definitely way too big. I'm not even sure if it's legal to call it a phone anymore . The 2500 mah battery is a good move imho. The rest of it is not really impressive.
wow.. it's so thin.. how the hell did they fit 2500mah battery into that thickness?
I wonder how sg3 and nexus prime are going to be like..
technology just gets better and better..
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Hm, for me, the screen is definitely way too big. I'm not even sure if it's legal to call it a phone anymore . The 2500 mah battery is a good move imho. The rest of it is not really impressive.
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same here, too big for a phone to be honest..
Even SGS2 is pushing it a bit.
I though SGS1 was the perfect size for a phone
its going to be a huuuuuuuuuge device but hey some peeps will love that
it defo merges the mobile/tab world a little bit closer no doubt sat nav / movie watching / serious buisness work / picture viewing / will be excellent and fun but i would have to hold it too see how it feels in the hand etc
no i did not :|
my bad!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxjo...el_video_title
Nice, just give me that hd display on my galaxy s2
Indeed this is just too big for a phone and will have trouble fitting in your pocket, the current size is perfect anything more is too much, other than that it looks good but no way will be purchasing this at that size.
jonny68 said:
Indeed this is just too big for a phone and will have trouble fitting in your pocket, the current size is perfect anything more is too much, other than that it looks good but no way will be purchasing this at that size.
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the real problem is when you take a call and have a tablet at the side of your face
buxz777 said:
its going to be a huuuuuuuuuge device but hey some peeps will love that
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I'm one of those people, I like larger devices and could care less how I look taking a call on it (but then again phone calls only make up about 0.3% of my phone use anyways). Only thing that makes me want to hold back is to see how the Nexus Prime turns out...
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the real problem is when you take a call and have a tablet at the side of your face
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yeah definitely.
God when mobile phones first came out in the late 1980's they were like big bricks, as time went on the size went down and down until the arrival of the smartphone now they seem to be going up in size.
The spec is very impressive but i simply could not have a phone that size, the current size or 4.5 at the very max but not as big as this.
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yeah definitely.
God when mobile phones first came out in the late 1980's they were like big bricks, as time went on the size went down and down until the arrival of the smartphone now they seem to be going up in size.
The spec is very impressive but i simply could not have a phone that size, the current size or 4.5 at the very max but not as big as this.
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I know right, bigger phones are back in fashion it seems. A HD samoled seems amazing though
Our sgs2 would be perfect with HD screen!
It's such a shame..
The Nexus Prime seems like it will have a similar resolution screen, so there will be some less-niche devices with these specs from Samsung soon enough, takes a little while to miniaturise the displays with each new generation. Those of you who don't like big devices will just have to wait!
I think everyone saying this is too big for a phone aren't really seeing this for what it is - its not being marketed as a phone, its a bridging device, Samsung realise this is a niche product.
Must say I wasn't expecting the Galaxy Note, but the 5,3" WXGA super amoled plus display sure is a winner. Considering Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to bring honeycomb and gingerbread together, I'd say that we'll definitely be seeing ICS on the Galaxy Note before it's released.
The only thing that's got me worried though is whether the Exynos at 1,4Ghz is powerful enough to power the 1280x800 screen at a pace that matches that of the SGS II.
Can't imagine calling on that big of a phone without a headphone.. isn't it a little too big to call a phone? 5.3".. Nothing like that before and a 2500 mah battery that thin?? an applause from me for samsung
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I'm one of those people, I like larger devices and could care less how I look taking a call on it (but then again phone calls only make up about 0.3% of my phone use anyways). Only thing that makes me want to hold back is to see how the Nexus Prime turns out...
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Im another one of those people, and until today i thought my next device was the next nexus. Im now not so sure. The note looks awesome, the only downsides are lack of ICS, touchwiz, and ive not seen a mention of micro sd card... but with a 32gb option, maybe thats not so important
i will get this if its LTE. I use my phone mostly for reading on the web
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Im another one of those people, and until today i thought my next device was the next nexus. Im now not so sure. The note looks awesome, the only downsides are lack of ICS, touchwiz, and ive not seen a mention of micro sd card... but with a 32gb option, maybe thats not so important
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I think we'll definitely be seeing ICS on this device as soon as the Nexus Prime is announced. According to gsmarena.com there'll be a MicroSD slot.
...Treo's, HTC Hermes , IPhones, WebOS, Nexus', Evo's, SGS2....
And without a DOUBT, after 30 days of use, the Galaxy Note is it!
Not a THING I'm missing or wanting on this, (except Ice Cream Sandwich).
My only hope is that this is successful enough to warrant Samsung releasing a Note2!
Just hadda say!
Encouraging, thank you for your post. Especially after I been sitting here reading all about screen issues. I hope I end up lucky with no screen issues. Please let us know if you develop any too. This "phone" seems to be the answer to many prayers, let's hope Samsung can keep up with the demand while maintaining a quality product.
My screen is fantabulous lol!
rockky said:
...Treo's, HTC Hermes , IPhones, WebOS, Nexus', Evo's, SGS2....
And without a DOUBT, after 30 days of use, the Galaxy Note is it!
Not a THING I'm missing or wanting on this, (except Ice Cream Sandwich).
My only hope is that this is successful enough to warrant Samsung releasing a Note2!
Just hadda say!
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Agreed, this is the one stop shopping I've wanted for ten years, but nobody could get right. The hd2 was close but still too small, despite being one of the biggest phones.
I'm quite pleased
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Encouraging, thank you for your post. Especially after I been sitting here reading all about screen issues. I hope I end up lucky with no screen issues. Please let us know if you develop any too. This "phone" seems to be the answer to many prayers, let's hope Samsung can keep up with the demand while maintaining a quality product.
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You have to remember that over a million people have purchased a Note, maybe more.
There will always be defective phones that ship with the good ones
The only reason you don't hear about defective iphones is because Apple has fanboys that censor any "bad" reviews
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Umm you do hear about plenty of IPhones that are defective.
Android fanboys are as rampant as IPhone fanboys.
I still love the IPhone....as U can tell!
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You have to remember that over a million people have purchased a Note, maybe more.
There will always be defective phones that ship with the good ones
The only reason you don't hear about defective iphones is because Apple has fanboys that censor any "bad" reviews
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I feel the same. The only thing that would make it perfect is an led notification.
Yeah it's a great device and I haven't had any problems with the screen.
In some categories it is perhaps the best device ever made. For GPS/Mapping the combination of the fast locks and gorgeous screen is hard to beat even by a dedicated device especially considering all the location apps that are available on a smartphone.
It is perhaps the best ever device to view photos/videos as soon as you take them. There are better cameras and there are better viewing devices but nothing that combines the two so well.
It is a fantastic device for quick annotation with the S-pen. The screenshot feature works well which means you can quickly annotate anything on the web or with the camera in under 30 seconds. I think this could be a real productivity feature for many people and I don't think there is any mobile device which comes even close.
Other than that it just seems to be a solid all-round smartphone.
I didn't want to own a phone, tablet and a laptop. With the note now I have a phone, ebook reader, and a excellent internet browsing device. I have mostly stopped using my Sony reader.I carry just the note to many places. Still carry my laptop for my coding needs.plan to try a Bluetooth keyboard to see if I can do some rudimentary coding as well. Note is not for everybody, but it works for some extremely well
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Unfortunately I am one of those who has a less than perfect screen. I suffer from the "uneven grey" problem afflicting these screens (horizontal bands of darker colour).
This is only ever noticable when scrolling vertically in a web browser with a light background (e.g. the light yellow background of xda using Opera Mobile) --- your eye follows text when scrolling and the dark horizontal bands become noticable. I fear exchanging it and getting a worse quality screen, so I'm keeping it and deciding to ignore the issue.
Apart from the aforementioned issue it really is a fantastic device.
With due respect to the feelings of all you nice people, I have my own opinions :
Samsung Galaxy Note, is undoubtedly the best in the class and really is unbeatable in all the respects, if not less i have used in & around 250 - 300 phones all smart phones categories.
Why I love Note as in comparison to BB and iPhone ?
The very fact is unbeatable, that BB is truly business smartphone, and iPhone makes Retina display a mark statement but now Note:
1. Amazing Screen size and quality, as Super Amoled + & the 5.3 inch screen suffices for the tablet purposes.
2. Battery at whooping 2500 mAh makes it a truly lasting companion.
3. Slim design, sleeker than most of the things in the class.
4. Device Memory + expandable is doing good.
5. Camera is unbelievably good.
6. sPen is like power in hands.
7. Amazing Sound Quality.
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All well its all okie, but there is a lil handling issues, but its still an addedvantage.
I am in love with my device, may be people have opinion adverse to me, but I am all happy and am loving it.
Thanks Samsung, We really owe this to you.
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Exactly
Well put.
The Note has really put the X in convergence. I noticed an ad for the Note as a Jack of all trade, and I thought that was a great pitch by Samsung. Having owned 9 smart phones going back to the XDA II, the Note is at the forefront of design in convergent devices.
I have not had any major issues with mine apart from the usual teething problems like installing an app that drained my battery in 10hrs(iLED).
The HD Super Amoled screen is sensational, yet some keep banging on about the inferiority of pentile displays because when you examine the screen with a microscope you can see jaggy pixels when this applies to any display. No doubt some have had the bad luck to have a defective device, but there are many more who have no credibility with me, like one person who returned their device because it had banding, which is due to low res images, not the device. This disinformation scares people unnecessarily.
Your thread puts things in perspective.
rockky said:
...Treo's, HTC Hermes , IPhones, WebOS, Nexus', Evo's, SGS2....
And without a DOUBT, after 30 days of use, the Galaxy Note is it!
Not a THING I'm missing or wanting on this, (except Ice Cream Sandwich).
My only hope is that this is successful enough to warrant Samsung releasing a Note2!
Just hadda say!
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I wouldnt bet against Samsung coming out with a Note 2
Cant wait for ICS to be out for note as well
I have to admit, I don't use it as my primary phone. I have to carry a company blackberry for that... but as a pocket tablet it's almost always with me.
Great device. Well built and designed.
Just awesome!
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I hope Samsung make Note 2 with 6", I think it will be the ultimate size for Phonlet or Tabone
Hate to disagree but the HTC universal was the only fully converged device I ever used...
Assets at the time...
- screen estate
- Keyboard
- UMTS
- Overclockable processor
To this day - IMHO Nothing matches it..
It had a nice screen, and the Imate JasJar variant had the best physical keyboard of any device ever... Seriously... that keyboard was epic.
It was like a dream device - it had everything.. I sometimes dream about what the universal 2, 3 or 4 could have been... with a bigger screen, android, and that lovely keyboard...
The note comes close... but would be perfect with a slideout physical keyboard... IMHO...
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The note comes close... but would be perfect with a slideout physical keyboard... IMHO...
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I'm not a fan of touchscreen keyboards, but the Note's spacious screen negates the need for a slide-out. IMO
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Once I mastered Swype, two thumb tapping on physical keyboard feels like walking uphill on foot.
And my quest for better phone came to an end with Note - this feels so stalemate. I guess now is time to find good chic for life :s
Sent from GNote.
I had a Dell streak before which I absolutely loved but this phone takes things to a whole
new level.
Am seriously impressed, money well spent IMO
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I sometimes dream about what the universal 2, 3 or 4 could have been... with a bigger screen
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...a netbook?
The Note II is probably one of best all round phones around in terms of ability, battery life, camera, but try as I might (for 6 months) I've finally found that the size irritates me. It's too big as a phone for my usage, but not really big enough as a tablet.
Hence, I'm moving on.
The question is, if you were me, what would you move on to (I'm looking for inspiration) ?
In February you had a Nexus 4 (at least according to your posting history). (Ah, I see you own both a Nexus and a N2.)
There's a comparison thread if you want to compare devices. However I've always been boggled by the XDA threads where people post IN an enthusiast area that they don't like that phone.
It's like walking in a Ford dealership and saying "Hey, what Toyota should I buy?"
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It's like walking in a Ford dealership and saying "Hey, what Toyota should I buy?"
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You said it all....
Send from my GNote 2 what else...
Oh do forgive me for assuming there might be some normal human beings on xda, rather than a bunch of teenage "fanboys".
Some people find them too big, get over it.
The point is, ask them.
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Oh do forgive me for assuming there might be some normal human beings on xda, rather than a bunch of teenage "fanboys".
Some people find them too big, get over it.
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'Normal' is relative.
His point is, people who browse this forum probably own the Note 2, and probably like it for the reasons that you don't.
So asking our opinions on what you want is kind of pointless. I personally won't even look at a phone unless the screen is at least 5".
First thing I'd recommend is figuring out exactly what size of a phone suits you based on what you want to do,
and how/when you want to do it.
There are lots of phones with better specs. I think most of the Note II users like me love it for the screen plus the battery life along with the feature loaded beast that it is. S Pen is just an icing, obviously.
HTC One seems nice - some users do manage to get like ~7 hrs on screen time with battery saving tweaks etc (although I wouldn't expect it to be anywhere near that on moderate-heavy usage). Or obviously the S4. Do some research and pick what suits you the best, as ultimately it all boils down to personal preference
Personally, can't think of switching to anything <5.5'', but hey, to each his/her own.
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Oh do forgive me for assuming there might be some normal human beings on xda, rather than a bunch of teenage "fanboys".
Some people find them too big, get over it.
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I don't like your attitude to a (quite normal) response to your question/OP. Anyway, maybe the new HTC One is something you should consider? I'm looking for a phone for my girl who think my phone is too big and she likes the size of the One.
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If you like the note but want something smaller get the s4
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Moving to a smaller phone is easier said than done & may be against the law : D
as someone who use tab 7.7 as a phone... i said note 2 is not that big... hahahaa...
anyway... just go for 4" phone its kind of normal fit in palm... got several that fit into that category and its kind of nice hardware too... and if you are at XDA... then i dont think you will use stock firmware... go CM for good battery life...
S4 seems obvious. With a 2600mah battery plus the reduced power consumption of the new oled screen technology and octal cpu, then battery life should still be excellent.
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Moving to a smaller phone is easier said than done & may be against the law : D
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My wife says bigger is better. (I hope she talks about the phone)
it does seem strange that you have a Note2 and yet are complaining about the things which to other people make it great. I make maybe one voice call every other day.
a Note mini would suit many people at 5" or smaller. some people are eager for the Note 8".
the best thing to do is to go to a phone shop and play with the device before buying, a review will only tell you so much.
personally, I find the Note2 at the limit of useable size for my hands, but I have slightly smaller hands than average for a european 6 foot male. I still wouldn't swap it for anything else, unless there was a keyboarded slider device of at least 5" display with 720p or better.
If the rumours are correct Samsung will release 5,8 and 6,3 inch devices soon (Grand). For me 5,5 to 5.8 inch is the limit atm.
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My wife says bigger is better. (I hope she talks about the phone)
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Hope so for you, getting a bigger phone is easier than a bigger ........
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Oh do forgive me for assuming there might be some normal human beings on xda, rather than a bunch of teenage "fanboys".
Some people find them too big, get over it.
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You don't say what would be a good size for you, you don't say why you chose the Note II and what you like and/or not like about it (dimensions aside) so your post seemed more of a trolling than a genuine question...
Anyway, if the only problem you have with the Note II is its size but you more or less like everything else the answer should be pretty obvious: get an S IV.
Too big? Get an S III.
Still too big? You are looking for a toy then, not for a smartphone.
BTW, I have the opposite problem: I find the Note II too small and am eagerly waiting for a bigger Note III.
I have owned an OG Note for 15 months and had been arguing that the Note II was a step in the wrong direction with its 16:9 aspect ratio and a NARROWER screen (80 pixel less are also noticeable). The Note II is way better than the Note in just about EVERYTHING (display quality included) BUT the screen dimensions!! 16:10 5.3" is superior, IMO, to 5.5" 16:9.
I held off upgrading for several months for this very reason but the 2 GB RAM finally did it for me and in the end I am happy to have upgraded but still disappointed by the display dimensions...
My ideal smartphone display dimensions are 6.3"/6.5", any bigger and I couldn't carry it where I usually carry my smartphones (jeans back pocket, fanny pack, jacket pocket). That's what separates smartphones from tablets, to me (like a label would matter anyway...).
I'd suggest the HTC One. Absolutely stunning looking phone.
Either the s4 or the HTC one. I was thinking about the HTC one but the battery size and screen size put me off. But I can easily deal with a 5 inch phone, but no smaller. That's for my taste though. Maybe the blackberry z10 If you're into trying new devices.
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S4 seems obvious. With a 2600mah battery plus the reduced power consumption of the new oled screen technology and octal cpu, then battery life should still be excellent.
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Rumours says the S4 will get LCD instead of Amoled.
I would move to HTC One or S4 .. But moving to smaller devices after the N2 is hard for me
This looks like one of the hot comparisions out there right now. Many of you are probably wondering if you should get the One or S4. I was in the same boat as some of you guys before buying the HTC One. I had been using a nexus 4 which felt fast and good in hand, but after breaking the screen and getting quoted $250 to fix it, i decided to buy a new one. I didn't even look at any phones other than the HTC One, Galaxy S4 and XPeria Z. I removed the XPeria Z from my list after hearing that the snapdragon s4 feels laggy on the 1080p screen and the screen is a little washed out compared to the other two. It was really hard to choose from the remaining two, but here are things that i thought were pros and cons of both phones:
Galaxy S4 Pros:
- Has SD Slot
- Has Removable Battery
- Processor is clocked 200MHz higher at 1.9GHz (Doesn't make much difference)
- AirView is pretty cool and would be pretty useful if more apps implemented (I don't think the API is open though)
- Faster unofficial updates since Google announced they would be providing updates for the stock version of GS4 which means the roms can be ported faster.
Galaxy S4 Cons:
- Doesn't have a premium feel with plastic polycarbonate body (the phone's plastic felt like the plastic used on my motorcycle's helmet)
- Has too many gimicky features that just take up space but you can never use (the eye tracking features are useless at night or where there is no perfect lighting, Air gestures are not practical for most people.)
- Only 16GB of internal storage (at the moment), and only about 10 GB is free for users to use, which means you cannot download apps that are more than that on size. Almost all big games on the android market are at least 1GB and can go up to 3, and if you install like 5 or 6 of them, you will be pretty close to running out of storage for apps.
- When i held the device on my hand, it felt slimey (its kind of hard to explain) as if it was dipped in some kind of oil.
- Phone speaker is tiny. I don't listen to music through the speakers, but while trying my friends GS4's speakerphone to call while driving, i felt like the volume was little too low.
- TouchWiz is really cluttered. I checked how many apps that i didn't need were installed by default, and there were more than 20 apps that i would never use.
- Periodic Jitters. The phone seemed to freeze up for a quarter of second randomly while using the phone. And sometimes the UI would totally skip animations. These aren't big things, but they make the user experience feel less fun.
HTC One Pros:
- Smooth aluminum finish definitely makes the device feel premium in hand and gives overall better hand feeling.
- Ultrapixel camera works great at low light conditions.
- The infrared blaster merged into the power button just makes the device look less cluttered.
- The PPI is the higest out of anything i have ever used. The display is so sharp that it looks like you are looking at a printed photo when you are looking at the picture on the phone.
- HTC Sense 5 is great. I was always an aosp fan, but they have optmised sense so much that i like sense better than stock now.
- Boomsound speakers are great. I never thought i would be using speakers to watch videos on my phone, but the boom sound speakers are so loud and clear that i like using them over my $200+ headphones while watching movies and videos. The speakers are something that you will not notice how good they are unless you actually use them. Head down to a Sprint or Tmobile or ATT store and try it out.
- Beats Audio sounded like a gimmick at first, but it surprisingly works really well. Some songs sound so much better with beats turned on.
- It has a built in amp for the speakers, which helps the speakers perform really good.
- It is iPhone smooth. No matter what you guys say, i had never used an android phone that could match iphone's smoothness before using the htc one. The galaxy s4 is smooth, but the one feels a lot more smoother than the s4 when using side by side.
- Call Quality seemed much much better than S4 on my tests.
HTC One Cons:
- No Removable Battery. This definitely sucks.
- No SD Slot.
- Still uses 4.1.2 instead of latest version.
- Only 4 MP camera. Way more than enough on daily use, but if you want to print a photo in really large size, you might want to look for a real camera.
- It's almost impossible to repair.
Well these were pros and cons from my tests. I ended up buying the HTC one after a long research. Here are some deciding factors and solutions for HTC one's cons that made me get the HTC:
- The One came with 32 GB which was enough for me. And since i have good network and unlimited data with tmobile, i could always use cloud storage if i needed more.
- The One supports USB OTG like the S4 which means after buying a $1 cable from ebay, i could just plug in my USB flash drive and watch movies and other things from there. This would save me internal space, and i could always use the usb if i wanted to watch a movie. This would compensate the non removable storage in the HTC One.
- The non removable battery in the HTC One sucks, but according to a lot of reviews it would last for a day with moderate use which was good enough for me.
- The non removable battery problems could be solved by portable chargers.
- Even though the battery is non replaceable in the HTC One, i don't think i will need to replace it for at least 2 years, and i wont be using this phone for more than 2 years. The battery is rated for charging cycles of 1000 times. This means even if you charge and discharge your phone completely 3 times in two days (which we don't normally do), the phone would easily last 2 years. And the 1000 times rating is the minimum rating, the battery could last even longer.
- The One has much more premium feel in hand compared to the S4. If you hold both in hands at the same time, you can totally feel the difference.
- Samsung's 16GB internal storage feels like too low for apps. Since you can only use 10GB out of the 16, i feel like i am going to run out of internal storage pretty quick.'
- The Audio quality from headphone port as well as the speakers is much better than the S4. I tried both side by side and One was far better in terms or audio quality.
- The display in HTC One seemed better than the S4 probably because of the higher PPI or samsung's use of pentile display tech. You wouldn't notice this if you were just using one of the phones, but if you had both phones side by side, the difference was noticable.
- The display on the HTC One works much better on sunlight compared to the Galaxy s4's OLED display. The difference is pretty big.
- I noticed that most pictures that i took with my phone were in low light situations. HTC One was much better in low light, even when the Galaxy S4's night mode was turned on.
- I actually liked the looks of HTC's sense compared to Touchwiz. Touchwiz just feels cartoonish compared to Sense.
Let me know if there are any pros or cons or any of the phones that i missed to mention above.
P.S. I am pretty biased towards the HTC one on the last part (deciding factors) since those were the reasons i got one instead of other. But i've tried to be as fair as possible on the pros and cons.
Update: Check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41502507&postcount=27
Thanks for the info. I thought Verizon did me a favor and gave me one decision with the s4. Looks like there going to release it and I will have a decision. I've read all the pros and cons and you really have to hold the devices side by side and I did that yesterday for the first time.
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Thanks for the info. I thought Verizon did me a favor and gave me one decision with the s4. Looks like there going to release it and I will have a decision. I've read all the pros and cons and you really have to hold the devices side by side and I did that yesterday for the first time.
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Honestly, both phones are pretty similar in terms of performance specs. But its the tiny little things that make a big difference. Try both phones and don't make your decision based on the fact that verizon doesn't have the one yet. Since sprint already got the CDMA version, verizon should be getting one pretty soon.
Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 degrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 deagrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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And if you would think about what you just posted, you'd know that heat dissapation is a good thing. Both phones have more or less the same processor, so they heat up about equally. The heat you feel on metal means that the heat is getting sucked away from processor and other electronics inside, preventing them from overheating. :good:
Tom-Helge said:
Yes, the HTC One is "feeling" good in the hand because of the aluminum. But how things works and functions is way more important than how things feels.
But that feeling comes with a big cost. Aluminum is spreading the heat way more than plastic does. And because the temprature on the HTC One is way higher than it is on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (according to NordicHardware here: http://tinyurl.com/brskpgw), then i wouldn't really say aluminum is a good thing to have on a phone when a phone gets that hot.
And good luck holding that phone under heavy usage, because you know, over 57 deagrees celcius and aluminum is NOT gonna fell good in the hand at all.
You should write this down as a cons / negative side for the HTC One.
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hey mate i been using htc one for 2 month and i wanna correct you even i watching movie and playing asphalt 7 or nova or modern combat
my battery highest rate will go till 41 degree and i never feel hot or watsoever just warm if u going to ask me how the hell i check now i teach u guys and that dont know just press *#*#4636#*#* if the device battery heat higher than 48degree will be consider defected battery as what HTC service center told me.lastly im not a HTC fanboy i own samsung s3 previous and my sister own s4 now,we compare side by side and my sister said wanna sell of s4 and get HTC one no offense and peace
OP, as you can see by reading the sticky by jotha in this very section, comparison threads aren't allowed in this forum.
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You can't see ANY differences from 441 PPI to 468 PPI with the naked eye. It's that simple. You are only imagine in your head that you actually are seeing differences. But in reality, you don't. You can't see any differences here before you gets the screens under a microscope.
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Normally I would agree with you on this...But the fact that the S4 uses a pentile display I would have to disagree! I'm sure most people can tell a difference side by side.
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gutrrob said:
Normally I would agree with you on this...But the fact that the S4 uses a pentile display I would have to disagree! I'm sure most people can tell a difference side by side.
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Maybe you should read about the new Pentile technology that are in the Galaxy S4 before you claim it's bad because of earlier pentile techologies: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
TLDR: The Super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S4 are as good as the iPhone 5 screen is. It says enough.
Tom-Helge said:
Maybe you should read about the new Pentile technology that are in the Galaxy S4 before you claim it's bad because of earlier pentile techologies
TLDR: The Super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S4 are as good as the iPhone 5 screen is. It says enough.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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When it's about PPI, then yes, HTC One are better than iPhone 5. But everything is not about the PPI on a screen.
Maybe you could find the article / proof that says the HTC One's screen are better than iPhone 5 when it comes to color accuracy?
HTC One and iPhone 5 uses the same screen technology (both have RGB stripes). So the only thing we can compare between those 2 are color accuracy.
And if you then can find me the proof that HTC One is doing a better job at color accuracy than the iPhone 5, then sure, i will use the HTC One over the iPhone 5 to compare the Samsung Galaxy S4's screen with.
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The HTC One has a far superior screen compared to the iPhone 5! Your comment doesn't hold any water.
Find a article where the S4 screen is just as good as the One.
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Sorry if I'll make you upset or something but IMO the iphone 5 screen is one of the best LCD's out there.
It has excellent calibration, sunlight visibility is superior to everything out there (even better than HTC one), excellent viewing angles and very high (maybe even the highest) contrast among mobile LCD displays.
Yes, the SLCD3 (of Samsung and Sony) in the HTC one is excellent but it's not perfect and the only place it's superior to the iphone 5's screen is ppi. Other than that, it's on par or inferior.
Check it yourself, and I know I'll be backed up by you and any other person who've seen the iphone 5's in person.
BTW, I still prefer the HTC one display over the iphone 5 display.
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When it's about PPI, then yes, HTC One are better than iPhone 5. But everything is not about the PPI on a screen.
Maybe you could find the article / proof that says the HTC One's screen are better than iPhone 5 when it comes to color accuracy?
HTC One and iPhone 5 uses the same screen technology (both have RGB stripes). So the only thing we can compare between those 2 are color accuracy.
And if you then can find me the proof that HTC One is doing a better job at color accuracy than the iPhone 5, then sure, i will use the HTC One over the iPhone 5 to compare the Samsung Galaxy S4's screen with.
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Funny how you keep bringing up the iPhone 5 when were talking about the S4 vs HTC One screen!
I'm done here Troll!
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Funny how you keep bringing up the iPhone 5 when were talking about the S4 vs HTC One screen!
I'm done here Troll!
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If iphone 5's screen superior (or on par) than the HTC one's screen than we can bring comparisons (that already made) between him and the S4 instead of the s4 against HTC one which we don't have professional comparisons unless you count the GSMArena comparison (for example) which gave the s4 the winning spot in the screen part:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p3.php
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Tom-Helge:
Why do you come here and try to destroy a perfectly good thread? The OP was trying to help others in the same situation as he was in, and he was not blindly butchering the S4. He had many valid points both pro and cons on both devices, so I don't really see the problem.
You tell us the One's screen isn't that good compared to the S4, but yet the only phone you compare it to is the iPhone 5. I struggel to see your point as this isn't an iPhone 5 VS One thread.
And for the dark screen on the S4: when you compare phones, you have to do it in stock condition. Not everyone roots and flashes.. In fact most people don't..
I still don't get the fuzz over the battery not being able to be changed. I personally have never had the need to change a bettery, and neither have any of my friends.
I guess this thread will be closed, but I kind of liked it and found it useful
Ind just for your information: yes, the One gets a bit hot, but it's never been a problem holding it, and far from any discomfort!
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No, there's no a problem in showing the pros and cons of the devices but the list the OP listed is total biased towards the HTC one.
Almost all of the cons of the galaxy s4 and the pros of the HTC one was a matter of opinion and preference.
So yes, it's good for non-techy people to have such thread but not as biased toward the HTC one as this thread is.
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I'm not destroying this topic. I'm correcting some points the op talked about witch isn't true.
When wasn't that allowed to do?
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The SGS4 screen was engineered with a pentigon style layout making the screen more green/blue than it should be , also making the whites more gray than it should be.
in reality the statments that you were bringing up do have some weight, but the SGS4 is a refreshed the SGS3.
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Is there any reason that the only people who think that are owners of a S4?
EclipzeRemix said:
The SGS4 screen was engineered with a pentigon style layout making the screen more green/blue than it should be , also making the whites more gray than it should be.
in reality the statments that you were bringing up do have some weight, but the SGS4 is a refreshed the SGS3.
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Have you seen the professional test of displaymate? The s4 (in movie mode) have accurate colors.
The "diamond" pentile use different sizes for each subpixel so in the end you can get accurate colors and in movie mode it actually have accurate colors as stated in displaymate tests.
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None of your points have been valid, and when you realise that, you just bring in another phone to compare it with...
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So my links that explains why the Galaxy S4 screen is that good as i say isn't any valid points?
I bring in the iPhone 5 because it have been the mainstreamphone to compare other screen on other phones to, because the iPhone 5 screen is pretty mu7ch one of the best screens out there (untilk proven wrong).
The fact that the display is perfect in some situations doesn't change the fact that it is s**t in other key functions. Not being able to use chrome is kind of a big deal for many people!
And you showed us a link telling us that the S4 display is s**t when browsing. Is that explaining how good it is?