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So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.
I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.
I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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calin75 said:
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.
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I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.
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Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.
Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.
I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.
Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.
This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
shawn1224 said:
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.
I love my nexus one and yes I was tempted by the nexus s but as we all know internally its just another random device out there. My question is when dual cores come out what are you going to do with your Nexus One?
My plan is to keep my Nexus One at home in the box as my back up phone. Ever so often take it out boot it up and flash it to the lastest version of Android it can handle.
Well I think the n1 is far from its end of life. The only disadvantage it will have over the dual cores is ability to run advanced games. Unless google makes major ui changes like how running live wallpapers made the g1 look more like a last gen device, then we are good
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I don't understand, how much money do people spend on phones in this forum?
I'm hoping to use my Nexus for at least 2 more years. There is absolutely nothing out or coming out soon that seems like a large enough jump for me to justify buying another phone.
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I don't understand, how much money do people spend on phones in this forum?
I'm hoping to use my Nexus for at least 2 more years. There is absolutely nothing out or coming out soon that seems like a large enough jump for me to justify buying another phone.
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same here...
i'm actually just waiting on purolator to come to my door to give me my nexus one...
if i want to play games, i'll use my xbox... haha.
or i'll get a tablet.
i'm interested in seeing what motorola is going to show us... definitely putting off on buying a tablet until then.
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Well I think the n1 is far from its end of life. The only disadvantage it will have over the dual cores is ability to run advanced games. Unless google makes major ui changes like how running live wallpapers made the g1 look more like a last gen device, then we are good
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That just might be what Honeycomb is. Speculation but we all pretty much know that it will bring a huge change to how the UI works.
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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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Same. Unless something awesome comes out on a really good contract. I do like the look of that LG Star/2X, and I imagine 'better' manufacturers will come out with their similar spec'd offerings shortly, which is why I have no real interest in the Nexus S.
At that point, the N1 will be sold for whatever I can get for it
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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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See I can afford to replace my phone with the latest and greatest the thing is there isn't anything worth buying. I play games on my computer, not my phone so the Nexus S doesn't benefit me in any way.
I'll dump my N1 when something ground breaking comes out (dual core might be it but would need support for it) or when my N1 feels slow like my sons G1 does compared to my N1.
I'll upgrade to a Nexus S once they're free (or $50) on contract, and a decent car dock is shipping. The N1 car dock leaves a lot to be desired, but I wouldn't be without it.
I bought my wife a NS to replace her broken G1, and frankly I'm amazed at how much I like it over the N1. It's ridiculously fast and the 4" screen is a lot better for my middle-aged eyes. My N1 gets so laggy at times I just want to smash it, and I've never had that happen with the NS.
It baffles me why they can't release accessories like car and desk docks when these phones come out, instead of waiting 3-6 months.
I might give some thought to running an AOSP ROM on a Galaxy S, but with the G1 and N1 I've really preferred the bugs in Google's official releases over the bugs in the other ROMs I've tried. Right now my N1 has FRG83D+root and I'm looking forward to the official 2.3 update.
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I bought my wife a NS to replace her broken G1, and frankly I'm amazed at how much I like it over the N1. It's ridiculously fast and the 4" screen is a lot better for my middle-aged eyes. My N1 gets so laggy at times I just want to smash it, and I've never had that happen with the NS.
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The irony is, that NS CPU performance-wise is about equal to N1. Hence it must be the difference between 2.2 and 2.3. Or you have some funny background tasks on your N1.
I dont plan on upgrading until something that's clearly a generation leap comes out. Im used to upgrading every year but haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet
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I dont plan on upgrading until something that's clearly a generation leap comes out. Im used to upgrading every year but haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet
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I had the same problem with my N95
I dont upgrade every time something new comes out my upgrade was there for the g1 when it came out Oct two years ago. My contract went up in Oct of this year currently out of contract. I bought my N1 off of someone from Clist for 320 back in May. I figured since I have the upgrade why not use it and put my N1 in a safe place where it wont get hurt
In the current scenario , there's absolutely no reason to justify an upgrade . Gingerbread based ROMs will appear soon & I am absolutely clear in my mind that even honeycomb can be modified to run smoothly on our N1's albeit some overclocking might be necessary with higher versions of android . But thats not the case with gingerbread & Nexus S is a complete failure from my point of view as a Google Developer / Flagship device.
I am not willing to upgrade for atleast one more year .
Can I have one fact about NS CPU being faster than N1's?
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I am eyeing the Motorola Olympus because of build quality and tegra dual core. But I would have gladly bought the Nexus S if it had two mics and AT&T 3g bands. I can't figure out why these GSM phones aren't all pentaband these days. The antenna chips are usually capable but they leave out key parts like certain cheap amplifiers that keep the capability off. It's really annoying.
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The irony is, that NS CPU performance-wise is about equal to N1. Hence it must be the difference between 2.2 and 2.3. Or you have some funny background tasks on your N1.
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the 1ghz hummingbird is similar to the 1ghz snapdragon in the n1, however the GPU is many times faster... for anything that involves graphics, the GPU will help out immensely.
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In the current scenario , there's absolutely no reason to justify an upgrade . Gingerbread based ROMs will appear soon & I am absolutely clear in my mind that even honeycomb can be modified to run smoothly on our N1's albeit some overclocking might be necessary with higher versions of android.
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N1 performance-wise is still on the very top of the smartphones. Yes, the touch screen digitizer is not perfect and the GPU is not the quickest in the world, but for the OS itself it is pretty much a non issue.
If N1 is not powerful enough to run the honeycomb, then very little of todays phones are (in fact none). Instantly making all of them obsolete.
Of course it is entirely another thing if goog will want to invest into N1 development.
No intentions of upgrading until maybe this time next year. Right now it meets everyone of my needs. Still having fun with it. The flaws most folks point out generally either don't bother me or I don't notice them on a day to day use. The only phone I was torn on getting was a G2 even that was more because I had a G1 and loved that phone. I rode that one into the ground. 4-5 warranty trade outs. Still have it rooted running CM as a protable game system for my 3 year old son.
Every phone that has come out so far has been slightly better. When it is time to retire the N1 it will be for something 1-2 generations better than what's available now.
I've always said my nexus one is worthy of a permanent collection device since It's nicer than most phones. Besides I don't have any backup emergency device so I'm gonna keep it in case of emergency backup device.
Normally I sell my device after 6 months for 50% of what I paid and use that cash for my next device.
I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has now driven me back to the iPhone witch ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has no driven me back to the iPhone with ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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K... Bye.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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LMAO don't be so mellow dramatic.
The OS isn't outdated, it's just not on the bleeding edge of technology with the absolute latest update, my friend. Speaking of bleeding, what's so important and missing from the Atrix that's making your tampon leak all over the place?
If you want to switch to an iPhone, that's all right. We have a great Android community and we all love our Atrix's despite it's minor flaws. No phone is perfect. But it seems like you should genuinely consider sticking to just the Google flagship handsets if you're going to complain so much.
LOL. Good, one less whiner around here.
Wow. Someone has sand in his vagina. hahaha
Bye bye! Kthx.
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Wow. Someone has sand in his vagina. hahaha
Bye bye! Kthx.
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But it's so tight!
I would say bye also, but that would imply I give a turd! lol
You know a lot of apps don't work on 2.3
Takes time for devs to catch up...
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I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has no driven me back to the iPhone with ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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This is a useless complaint. It doesn't help anything. So...why even waste your time? Nobody cares.
Atrix lol
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this phone has been out for a lil over a month and your complaining already? Really??? if you don't like the the device just move on, go back to your N1 that has to be rooted and fully modded just to barely reach half of the power that the Atrix has, there's a difference between constructive criticism and ignorance.....i wish people would quit whining about the bootloader on this phone and actually give it a chance, and be patient while the devs are working on it, what if root never existed??? what would u do then?
In my "opinion" if root never existed, we wouldn't have these complaints about the atrix, and they would realize that it's the most powerful phone to date and possibly this year, think about it motorola set a trend with the atrix, the first dual core phone so now every other company is gonna hop on the bandwagon, so give moto some credit at least
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I have had the atrix since launch. Its been replaced 2 times since i got it. I wanna like it. But, I came from the n1. I never got why ppl *****ed so much about android fragmentation. Well now I get it. We have a Outdated OS os on a brand new phone, Some apps don't even work from the market becasue of the dual core. We have a locked bootloader still just like the DX.
This has no driven me back to the iPhone with ironicly feels like a more open platform.
The DX bootloader has not been cracked and neither will this.
Thanks Moto... THANKS FOR NOTHING. Android may be open but only on a pure Google phone. I say we all boycott anything but pure Google experienced.
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An amazingly sad tale.. I hope you have some kleenex nearby.
Give the guy some slack. If u realy don't care about his wyning than why do u waste ur time replying to his post. maybe he just got bad luck and ended up with some ****y devices.
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i cant say i agree with most of the post but i do agree with the locked bootloader. right now jailbroken iphone's seem to have more freedom than this device. I love it and with the exception of the camera and the bootloader, i really wouldnt change a thing.
but most of us come from a truly rooted device and flashing roms to suit our own needs. Maybe im just spoiled with android's freedom.
Well I'm back on my n1 not by choice... you guys whining on att have nothing to complain about AT ALL. The bell atrix is really nothing special without sbf or the update... its a tad quicker its a bit smoother but honestly I need an ATT model to even compare.
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i cant say i agree with most of the post but i do agree with the locked bootloader. right now jailbroken iphone's seem to have more freedom than this device. I love it and with the exception of the camera and the bootloader, i really wouldnt change a thing.
but most of us come from a truly rooted device and flashing roms to suit our own needs. Maybe im just spoiled with android's freedom.
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i can from a epic 4g and a hero and to say the truth i was tried of flashing all different kinds of crap all the time to just make it work.
all that has gone away with the atrix it just great
but i personally think i might get an iphone after my atrix because i have never had one just because i am tired of android because its all the same
it would be a lie if i said i havent been tempted to sell my atrix while the resale value is fairly high. But there are no phones that compete with everything this phone has to offer...
-best battery life ever by far
-amazing screen
-speaker is the best i have had on a phone
-one very important thing nobody seems to have mentioned is the back cover! Anyone notice that the whole back and corners of the phone are covered by a cover that can be purchased from the store??? GREATEST IDEA EVER!!
-once launcher pro is installed UNCHECK the high quality scrolling and the home screens absolutely fly with no lag ever
-i have a 16gb sd card and the phone comes with another 16!
-future proof for the most part
-the notification bar NEVER lags which is much more than i can say for pretty much every android device i have owned
-hdmi output is surprisingly usefull
Whatever lag is noticable is likely due to everything not being optimized for dual core and this high level of screen resolution(like lwp)
I love my Atrix and am patient enough to wait for the boot loader. Some people will say this and that about the Atrix but let's be realistic our phone is just as powerful as a netbook, that's awesome lol
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I doubt we will see full potentional of our phones until we get the gingerbread update.
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so I had an incdredible, got an iphone 4 (huge mistake), then got the thunderbolt. well im now back on the incredible and i gotta say that the inc is the fastest smoothest phone ive had so far. the thunderbolt felt laggy alot, even after i rooted it, no matter what rom i was on. i dont live in an area where 4g exists so that didnt matter. i also didnt like how big it was. im not even sure the inc 2 is as good as the inc 1. they decreased internal memory and increased the size of the screen... just seems a little weird that this phone seems to be better than the newer technology..
Agree with you!
I have been in Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular in the past few days checking all the phones out, and I can't find anything that is as quick and works as well as the Incredible. I would love to upgrade, but to me there is nothing to UPgrade to. The original Incredible is just an awesome phone.
That's weird. I'd think the added 256mb of RAM would make it faster.
I wonder if it's a matter of the Incredible having been out far longer and devs having more time to figure out how to optimize things for it?
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I have been in Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular in the past few days checking all the phones out, and I can't find anything that is as quick and works as well as the Incredible. I would love to upgrade, but to me there is nothing to UPgrade to. The original Incredible is just an awesome phone.
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Im glad tho cuz for once I get to use, no wait ENJOY a phone for the full 2yrs of my contract without trying to scheme up a way to upgrade early.
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it has better tech because it's older, and more time was put into it. the thunderbolt has crappy tech, sense 2.1. a good example, i was in the store the other day looking for a belt holster, i did find it, but, was comparing specs on the droid charge to the droid x, the droid x has a faster proc, i asked why the charge costed more since it has lower tech then the x. the rep said "well, this is newer, has dual core (WRONG) has a bigger screen (yeah, because i really need a 4.3 inch screen when 3.7 is serving me fine, ffs i use a 20" HDTV i got for 90 bucks on clearence, no it's not "1080p led, 120hz" crap, but it works.
Shoot Kiboe find me a HDTV deal like that! My husband would love you. LOL!
Yeah I got the Incredible the first day it was out. This phone works pretty good with the Synergy rom.
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I have been looking around for a phone to tempt me away from the Incredible and nothing has even come close. What I find funny is the Verizon stores I've gone to are now locking the phones so you can't get into the settings and see what its specs are. This is truly the first phone that has lived up to its name.
C4H1LL why did you get rid of the iphone 4 out of curiosity? I'm track to buy the new one for verizon when it comes out.
I agree the Incredible is Incredible!!! I will cry when it brakes, running MIUI.US with Incredikernel. The Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt are basically the same except Incredible2 is global and no LTE. All three have 1gig single core cpu's, but the overclock potential for the 2 and thunder would kill the original. I want a unlocked bootloader dual core HTC.
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C4H1LL why did you get rid of the iphone 4 out of curiosity? I'm track to buy the new one for verizon when it comes out.
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Iphone 4 has been out on Verizon since February. The Iphone 5 is rumored for September release. Before you buy something you will regret, take the incredible(1or2) and load MIUI.US can make it look like a Iphone.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?228-ROM-MIUI-1.6.17.1-Droid-Incredible-Updated-at-2-15pm-6-18
Link for theme
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...xed-(I-hope)-Ultimate-iPhone-theme-6.0Beta4.1
That is a really really good theme... I might try it lol thanks.
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Iphone 4 has been out on Verizon since February. The Iphone 5 is rumored for September release. Before you buy something you will regret, take the incredible(1or2) and load MIUI.US can make it look like a Iphone.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?228-ROM-MIUI-1.6.17.1-Droid-Incredible-Updated-at-2-15pm-6-18
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http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...xed-(I-hope)-Ultimate-iPhone-theme-6.0Beta4.1
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MIUI is a GREAT ROM, even if you're NOT trying to make your phone look like an Iphone. (I'm definitely not.)
Still have my dinc.. still an awesome phone. But my inspire has me hooked. Plus att coverage is way better in my area. ( sticks) . At this point in the game its really a battle of specs. To me its all becoming overkill if you think bout it.. while having the latest and greatest is nice. Staying one generation behind is always better. Why? Because of optimization..lol bugs worked out.
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Still have my dinc.. still an awesome phone. But my inspire has me hooked. Plus att coverage is way better in my area. ( sticks) . At this point in the game its really a battle of specs. To me its all becoming overkill if you think bout it.. while having the latest and greatest is nice. Staying one generation behind is always better. Why? Because of optimization..lol bugs worked out.
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ha yea. For these android phones that is true, plus you get a huge discount is price.
You couldn't pay me to leave my Tbolt to go back to my dInc. Or the dInc2. A number of the early custom ROMs where pretty sorry, despite the best efforts of many devs. That mainly has to do with some pretty sorry base leaks from the Big Red Checkmark. I'm currently running a 3D ROM (not exactly easy on graphics) and it lags NONE at all. Furthermore, having 25 to 45 Mbps in your pocket is not something you ever want to give up.
Concerning the dInc2, that's a far better device than the original. The LCD is FAR brighter than the AMOLED, the CPU is more muscular, it's got more memory, it's got a screen large enough to reasonably display a keyboard, a decent front-facing camera, it's even more pleasant to the hand to hold, and it's actually difficult to kill the battery inside a day. If 4G wasn't a factor, I'd have a dInc2. 4G being a factor, the Tbolt is an industrial-strength device capable of summoning speeds as high as 45Mbps, leaving you effectively waiting for nothing. Really.... it downloads songs faster than you can open the music player and play them. Tethered or on the device, streaming HD quality video is NOT a big deal. I've downloaded 310MB ROMs in under 3 minutes.
not everyone is in a 4g market!!!!!!
if you have the money, go with the t-bolt, if not, just stick with the dinc until you do.
Lol had my Inc since early February. I'm happy with it and the specs aren't too low. I do have a bone to pick with HTC on their cruddy bluetooth system. It is pretty much my dependent internet connection when I'm at home. I can't get wireless out here and the closest thing we can get is dial up (not going back). I'm getting closer to go back to CM7 and get better bluetooth, but the camera sucks on it and I won't be able to use the tv out cable. While I have my issues with it, I'm happy I got it. I got it on sale for 50 bucks at Hhgregg, which in my opinion is a bargain. I don't think 4G will take off...at least not drastically for quite a while as its still being developed in many parts of the US. Maybe by the time my contract is up, I'll upgrade to a different Droid or a different non-HTC sense and Galaxy S device. Maybe get something with HDMI as well as more phones are coming with that lol. Plus with the unlimited data I'm grandfathered in and 4G data in the future, I will no longer have to go out for wifi But I'll be with my Incredible Droid until the contract is up. I might hold onto it and see if there's other purposes for it. I say if you can find this phone dirt cheap like Amazon had for .01 cent with a contract, not really into 4G yet, and could care less about a front facing camera then this phone is for you.
There are tech sites (tested.com) for example who talk about how this device is outdated and stuff.
It really isn't... it is a great phone and hasn't failed me yet. I just added on a bulky battery to mine though so it lasts over a day if I can't find a plug. The only con I had before was battery life.
I am probably going to end up dropping it one day and breaking it beyond repair and that is gonna force me to upgrade, because for what I use it for I don't see myself needing anything else yet.
I already replaced the digitizer twice lol... last time was just because it had a lot of scratches though
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There are tech sites (tested.com) for example who talk about how this device is outdated and stuff.
It really isn't... it is a great phone and hasn't failed me yet. I just added on a bulky battery to mine though so it lasts over a day if I can't find a plug. The only con I had before was battery life.
I am probably going to end up dropping it one day and breaking it beyond repair and that is gonna force me to upgrade, because for what I use it for I don't see myself needing anything else yet.
I already replaced the digitizer twice lol... last time was just because it had a lot of scratches though
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Are you rooted? There's probably a bunch of things you can do to help your battery life out, I'm on a 1900mAh battery that still fits in the stock case and I get over a day's use. I use a BUNCH of GPS and data too (according to VZW I used 20GB last month)
But yea the INC is growing a little old but there's nothing I have to complain about it, and no phone is a good enough upgrade for me to go for it.
One day though.. we will part our ways. Just got a new case for mine so I'm in love with it all over again..now spending hours on these forums. oh god. I need to go to sleep.
Im thinking to myself I love my Atrix its specs beat or match that of phones that just came out in the past weeks or due out in coming months.Now what specs would you say are future proof for ICS and new Dualcore super apps for android? IMO 1ghz Dualcore any chip or Soc don't matter 1Gig Ram but some might say 512 or 768 if you own a sensation being the way Android uses the Os how much is needed.Now when it comes to screen size well this is user based but screen Res I would say it changes some will say Qhd will be future proof but other devices like the nexus prime show a 720p screen so is that future proof? As far as storage we have 16 gigs built in witch is great beating the sensation and g2x along with others could this make our device or others with the same specs proofed some might say the OEMs play a part in updating but who knows my point is I would like 2 answers from you people the Atrix is it Proofed and what makes a future proof device at this point? I mean if you say that the Atrix is not proofed for what ever reason would mean your saying the photon / Sensation. / G2X / All Verizon dualcore phones/ Evo 3D are not future proofed so where is the line in witch we start to proof phones if there is any proof the way Android hardware moves it could be a game a made up word to keep us back for more when in fact a single core 512 device I.E. nexus S is very much Future proofed. WHAT YOU THINK?
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Nexus brand phones are always future proof as devs love working on them due to their stock nature. Other than that, it really just comes down to what phones are popular. I would not say the Atrix is future proof due to the fact that most devs abandoned the platform early in its life due to the locked bootloader. Even now the only roms we have are deoxed based ROMs and an unoffical CM7 port. It basically comes down to what phone is popular during each product cycle. For CDMA, it would be the thunderbolt at the moment. For GSM, it's the SGS2 by a landslide. Pretty much anywhere but this subforum, people are recommending the SGS2 as the android phone of choice if you are on a GSM network. It has a big dev following mostly due in part to how popular it is. People can argue all they want about how the Atrix is a superior phone, but the facts are that the Atrix flopped in sales whereas the SGS2 totally dominated globally.
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Nexus brand phones are always future proof as devs love working on them due to their stock nature. Other than that, it really just comes down to what phones are popular. I would not say the Atrix is future proof due to the fact that most devs abandoned the platform early in its life due to the locked bootloader. Even now the only roms we have are deoxed based ROMs and an unoffical CM7 port. It basically comes down to what phone is popular during each product cycle. For CDMA, it would be the thunderbolt at the moment. For GSM, it's the SGS2 by a landslide. Pretty much anywhere but this subforum, people are recommending the SGS2 as the android phone of choice if you are on a GSM network. It has a big dev following mostly due in part to how popular it is. People can argue all they want about how the Atrix is a superior phone, but the facts are that the Atrix flopped in sales whereas the SGS2 totally dominated globally.
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Yea but what your talking about is choice im talking specs not whats hot being hot has nothing to do with future proof more less sales
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Devs do have a favor in future proofing a phone. Im sure development has slowed down a lot for nexus one and itll start slowing soon nexus s. But generally the most powerful phone have a chance at being future proof. The sgs2 is fixing to get left behind i think with next generation of phones. I didn't know they were titty babies about their pride and joy. Anyways, the first quad core and nexus are probably going to be where its at.
Iphone > galaxy s 2.
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Devs do have a favor in future proofing a phone. Im sure development has slowed down a lot for nexus one and itll start slowing soon nexus s. But generally the most powerful phone have a chance at being future proof. The sgs2 is fixing to get left behind i think with next generation of phones. I didn't know they were titty babies about their pride and joy. Anyways, the first quad core and nexus are probably going to be where its at.
That's my point at what point does it end I think that any dualcore device out now should be proofed
Iphone > galaxy s 2.
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Yea but what your talking about is choice im talking specs not whats hot being hot has nothing to do with future proof more less sales
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Devs have everything to do with futureproofing a device. Custom ROMs are the only thing keeping older devices up to speed since manufacturers/networks like to drop support after 12-18 months. Nexus one/S are still going strong despite how old they are due to very good google/dev support.
The SGS2 will get left behind like the Captivate has. And by that I mean by not much at all. Captivate dev is still quite active. SGS2 had huge sales, so devs will stay on board for the forseeable future.
Nexus phones are ALWAYS where it's at when it comes to futureproof phones.
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Devs have everything to do with futureproofing a device. Custom ROMs are the only thing keeping older devices up to speed since manufacturers/networks like to drop support after 12-18 months. Nexus one/S are still going strong despite how old they are due to very good google/dev support.
The SGS2 will get left behind like the Captivate has. And by that I mean by not much at all. Captivate dev is still quite active. SGS2 had huge sales, so devs will stay on board for the forseeable future.
Nexus phones are ALWAYS where it's at when it comes to futureproof phones.
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This is almost spot on to what I was gonna exactly say.
SGS still has a HUGE support following. Once something as small as 2.3.5 gets leaked, the SGS section will go crazy wuth updated ROMS just like it has with the previous FWs.
If you are an early adopter, you will are taking a gamble with ANY phone.
But with Android, IMO it is critical in terms of future proofing to find a phone supported by devs.
(For non XDA users I'd recommend Nexus, and nothing else)
Devs decide the lifespan of a device more than the hardware itself. Even the G1 and the OG Droid/Milestone still gets supported.
That's why many companies are changing their policies and leaving BL unlocked, because it's truly in their best interest...
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Devs have everything to do with futureproofing a device. Custom ROMs are the only thing keeping older devices up to speed since manufacturers/networks like to drop support after 12-18 months. Nexus one/S are still going strong despite how old they are due to very good google/dev support.
The SGS2 will get left behind like the Captivate has. And by that I mean by not much at all. Captivate dev is still quite active. SGS2 had huge sales, so devs will stay on board for the forseeable future.
Nexus phones are ALWAYS where it's at when it comes to futureproof phones.
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That's a good point people are getting all worked up over the gs2 is there a list if future android apps that there can run on there phone and not any other phone ? Cause at days end we can run the same apps that make android Android
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no device is really future proof anymore. as has been stated already its up to the devs.
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I want the Atrix to live forever!
Maybe we should make it worth it for the devs to get involved. I've seen countless times communities placing a $$bounty for the dev/team that gets X feature working.
XDA forums should implement such a system. That way it would pay-off to dev for the underdog, since everyone else would be fighting for the pop/novelty.
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That's a good point people are getting all worked up over the gs2 is there a list if future android apps that there can run on there phone and not any other phone ? Cause at days end we can run the same apps that make android Android
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You missed the point of my posts completely. I am saying that the SGS2 will last far longer than the Atrix in terms of lifespan due to the simple fact that the SGS2 has a much bigger fanbase and therefore many more devs working on it.
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You missed the point of my posts completely. I am saying that the SGS2 will last far longer than the Atrix in terms of lifespan due to the simple fact that the SGS2 has a much bigger fanbase and therefore many more devs working on it.
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They said the same thing about the Droid1. I've still got one of those for my work phone. I've completely uninstalled all nonstock apps just so the damn thing will run all day.
I agree with this line of thought as well. "Popular" phones continue to receive support for much longer, whether it be official or through the dev community. "Specs" can only get a phone so far on a technical scale but the incentive lies in where the money is at.
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Devs have everything to do with futureproofing a device. Custom ROMs are the only thing keeping older devices up to speed since manufacturers/networks like to drop support after 12-18 months. Nexus one/S are still going strong despite how old they are due to very good google/dev support.
The SGS2 will get left behind like the Captivate has. And by that I mean by not much at all. Captivate dev is still quite active. SGS2 had huge sales, so devs will stay on board for the forseeable future.
Nexus phones are ALWAYS where it's at when it comes to futureproof phones.
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This is almost spot on to what I was gonna exactly say.
SGS still has a HUGE support following. Once something as small as 2.3.5 gets leaked, the SGS section will go crazy wuth updated ROMS just like it has with the previous FWs.
If you are an early adopter, you will are taking a gamble with ANY phone.
But with Android, IMO it is critical in terms of future proofing to find a phone supported by devs.
(For non XDA users I'd recommend Nexus, and nothing else)
Devs decide the lifespan of a device more than the hardware itself. Even the G1 and the OG Droid/Milestone still gets supported.
That's why many companies are changing their policies and leaving BL unlocked, because it's truly in their best interest...
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I was thinking this thread looked familiar. I noticed the OP had already started a thread based on almost the same premise here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241063
The reason I bring this up is this forum has become redundant enough just with noobs but to have the same person basically ask the same question and to do it by starting new threads, well.....
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They said the same thing about the Droid1. I've still got one of those for my work phone. I've completely uninstalled all nonstock apps just so the damn thing will run all day.
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Meh I recently sold my Motorola Milestone (GSM Droid). I had no problems running it on stock Froyo at all with plenty if Apps installed on my SD.
The "only" reason why I sold it was because it still had resale value. I got $200 for it, which wasn't that much less than what I originally paid for it.
Otherwise the OG Droid/Milestone is "still" a solid device...
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"Future-proof" to me is:
1. can it run everything? (i.e. processor/graphic intensive apps)
2. will it get stable CM? (this would likely ensure ICS)
The Atrix certainly gets a check for #1 and seems likely to get a check for #2. That's enough for me to keep from chasing after the next big thing. We'll likely get ICS from the CM team and keep chugging well into 2012.
i believe that the Atrix is future proof, but u kno a lot of people are bandwagon users, i've seen so many of them in the Atrix forum. As before the atrix came out, they were claiming it was gonna be the best phone to come out this year(which i think it is OVERALL so far), then some moved to the inspire and tried to call the Atrix crap until they used it the inspire for a while, found out it wasn't better, then came back to the Atrix saying it's the best, now the SGS2 is coming out and now their calling the Atrix crap smh....Now i seen the SGS2, it's a nice phone, but in OVERALL specs, i would have to say that the Atrix is better, but that's my opinion. Yea the SGS2 has a nice screen, but i think the Atrix's Qhd looks better(some may agree some may not), another reason is the Atrix having the largest STOCK battery(yea i know their's extended batteries, but they make your phone look bulky and you'll have to use a different back cover and most likely won't be able to use the case you once had) in a phone to date which helps when i'm goin on trips, having a busy day, etc. without having to carry around a charger or extra battery. There's plenty of other comparisons that i could make, but don't feel like going down that loooong list of stuff. I am nowhere near biased in my opinions, i never said that the SGS2 didn't have any advantages over the Atrix, i went on OVERALL specs, i might end up getting the SGS2 or the new Nexus device when they come out after i see watch multiple reviews to weigh out their pros and cons, but i don't know......maybe
For me the only device capable of being "future proof" is the device you feel more comfortable with, for work, play, lesisure and whatnot whithout sacrifices*.
In my case the Atrix has been a great device (and a keeper) because i can:
1. Mod it
2. Play the latest and greatest THD games.
3. Simplify my work with Logmein and such through the pretty convinient Lapdock accessory.
4. Great battery life
5. Great photo and video camera for those quick shots of the family
6. Use it without ugly, bulky bullet-proof casings because the battery cover is easily replaceable and very cheap to get and it basically protects the corners of the phone, which for some reason are the prime spots that get damage by use on any phone.
7. Great specs (RAM, Storage, qHD LCD Screen, Huge Battery, Expansion< etc)
* And when I mentioned 'without sacrifices' I meant that I can use my device without fear of wearing out the screen like on other devices that make use of such 'wonderful' AMOLED, S-AMOLED and variants that degrades over time.
Cheers!
Rayan
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Although I want devs to continue using and creating new stuff this great device, it really just doesn't matter too much for me down the road. I know I'll still have this phone 3 years from now doing the same thing I use it for today. Games, Netflix, Youtube, and browsing the web.
I don't upgrade my phone much, but I believe this time it was a great choice. When it boils down to it, as long as it plays all the new games a year or 2 from now from the market, it's still a great device for me.
Emulators are already possible for the Atrix, so it's not like I'm going to run out of games to play. Which is why I hated my iPhone 3g so much. That device would have never ran PSX games like my Atrix.
Nothing is future proof. As I type this message it's old news.. We should look at the things we do daily with our devices the common things, can you type a text message faster? Are you gonna post a Twitter response faster? Majority of people aren't past needing a great device like the Atrix. I mean the iPhone 4S isn't killing the Atrix as far as specs go. Camera on the iphone will be nicer not to do the mp but the overall optics. Just my 2 cents...this post is already not future - proof