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[Q] Shopping Advice: Transformer vs. Chromebook vs. Netbook

Hi folks,
as a long time reader I have the following question.
My old Macbook is breaking down ... and I need a new surfing and media consumption device. Which of the following would you recommend me for my purposes.
Most of the time I am:
- surfing the web (GoogleReader, Forums, News)
- watching movies (Netflix, AVIs, Youtube, Hireing)
- writing letters (most of the time in GoogleDocs)
- printing (I guess that will be the hardest).
And that with the longest battery lifetime possible, and less maintenance of keeping updates
I was thinking about the following devices.
1. Asus Transformer with Keyboard Dock.
2. Chromebook (I like the Samsung Series 5)
3. Netbook (i thought about the HP dm1 with AMD Fusion or one with Atom/Ion2)
My PROs/CONs:
1. Transformer:
+ Movies (Android Movie ... even offline viewing, Netflix soon I guess)
+ Battery (13 hours of surfing)
o maintenance (simple in android but a lot apps to update always)
- Surfing (I guess the Android Chome is a bit slower then a Full browser)
- writing letters (Does GoogleDocs work in the browser? Good office apps?)
- printing (guess not possible directly)
2. Chromebook
+ Surfing (that's what it was developed for)
+ writing letters (GoogleDocs)
+ maintenance (simple)
o battery (8 hours of surfing)
- printing (guess not possible directly)
- movies (Netflix but no offline viewing of rented movies I suppose)
3. Netbook
+ Surfing (should work fine in windows)
+ writing letters (should work fine in windows)
+ printing (no problem in windows)
- movies (Netflix but no offline viewing of rented movies I suppose)
- battery (5 hours of surfing)
- maintenance (windows updates and all that)

the transformer had many good office apps as well as one of the fastes browers I have ever used
Go for it you will like it

Take a look at the 11" Macbook Air, if price is not an issue, it's great.
Small, silent, long battery life, the 13" has even longer life too.
You can get the base 64GB SSD 11" model refurbished like new from Apple
for not much more than a Transformer + dock.
The Transformer is very much a work in progress...

SonicTab said:
Take a look at the 11" Macbook Air, if price is not an issue, it's great.
Small, silent, long battery life, the 13" has even longer life too.
You can get the base 64GB SSD 11" model refurbished like new from Apple
for not much more than a Transformer + dock.
The Transformer is very much a work in progress...
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This. These new google OS are more of a toy than a computer. If price is a problem, why don't you look for a cheap used Thinkpad X200? This line is awesome, with the right battery, it lasts 6+ hours.

I went with the Transformer for my mobile needs (vs. my desktop and full-size notebook, the latter of which is getting MUCH less use lately) over these sorts of alternatives for a very simple reason: the Transformer is both a tablet and a netbook, whereas the others are netbooks only.
There are certain things, like browsing, ebook reading, multimedia, newsgroup reading, etc., basically anything that doesn't require copious amounts of text entry, that I simply find more pleasant and efficient on a tablet. The tablet can be used in more situations and positions (lying down, standing up, etc.) and the direct interaction with the touchscreen feels more natural.
Of course, anything that requires large amounts of data entry are better on a device with a physical keyboard. And that's what makes the Transformer special: use it as a tablet when that makes sense, and then when you're ready to start writing, just pop it in the dock. And, the dock also makes for a nice way to carry the device around (a little heavier but protects the screen) and serves as a nice portable charger. Heck, I even use the dock to charge my smartphone when I'm out and about. And, because it's based on a mobile processor that generates very little heat, I can even use it on my lap in bed without worrying about blocking heating vents or getting overheated--there are no vents, of course, and it runs very cool.
Overall, I'm finding that for 95% of what I do when I'm highly mobile (maybe 100%, but I'm being conservative here), the Transformer works perfectly. It's really a great hybrid device that's really pretty unique at this point.

popophobia said:
This. These new google OS are more of a toy than a computer. If price is a problem, why don't you look for a cheap used Thinkpad X200? This line is awesome, with the right battery, it lasts 6+ hours.
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I don't agree at all that Android is a "toy," if you're including that in your analysis. I can do most of my work on the Transformer in keyboard dock. I only find myself using my desktop when I need to do video editing and such, which I don't typically do when I'm mobile anyways, and I've found myself rarely using my HP Envy 14 notebook. In fact, if the Transformer had come out in November of last year, I wouldn't have bought the Envy at all.
This thing isn't a toy by any means. I'm finding it to be a very productive tool, and the best mobile device I've ever used for most of what I need to do. Now, of course, everybody's needs are different, but from what the OP describes, the TF with keyboard doc would work very nicely.

I find myself using Google Reader very often, as well as google docs. I also have a TF with keyboard doc. Google Reader is not very functional yet (there are readers out there, Newsr, etc, but they are slow and not very convenient). Google Doc app is inadequate. Alternatives (Documents to Go) are not measure up to the web app.
The browser, while fast for a mobile device, is in no way comparable to Chrome. No mouse over function. The UI is optimized for touch, so you cannot really click on a smaller things, even with a pointer.
Also, say what you will, but the ability to see two windows at once of Windows or Mac is irreplaceable. You will miss it if you use the Transformer as your only device (replacing the laptop).
All that said, I still love the transformer, but I haven't dare to bring it to class to replace the laptop yet.

I originally bought the TF to replace my hp dm1 but after using it for a week I decided to keep both. android is not polished enough fit me to replace my netbook.
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definately the transformer and dock. Its a joy to use and it kinda makes you enjoy 'working' after using productivity apps on honeycomb. Overall a net book or a chromebook experience could never replicate the experience on the Transformer.
Regards
Proud owner of Asus Transformer, Xperia X10 Stock with JIT and optimus one overclocked running megatron.

Hmm I think I have to get hands on a TF to see how the browsing experience is.
A Motorola Atrix with Chome OS instead of the Firefox docking stuff would be perfect for me
Macbook Air was a nice idea but I think I want to stay below 500 bucks.

SonicTab said:
Take a look at the 11" Macbook Air, if price is not an issue, it's great.
Small, silent, long battery life, the 13" has even longer life too.
You can get the base 64GB SSD 11" model refurbished like new from Apple
for not much more than a Transformer + dock.
The Transformer is very much a work in progress...
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I don't know what you consider "not much more", but it's $300 more than TF + Dock ($550).
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC505LL/A?mco=MjEwNTg3NDQ

One major + you forgot for Chromebook and Android Tablet is instant on. That's one thing a Windows Netbook won't be able to keep up with.

I am glad I am not the only one facing this decision. I too am looking for something to use for school, but I have a MacBook for "serious" computer use, and I am considering the Transformer, simply because I am familiar with Android, but I really like the Chromebooks as well.

wynand32 said:
I went with the Transformer for my mobile needs (vs. my desktop and full-size notebook, the latter of which is getting MUCH less use lately) over these sorts of alternatives for a very simple reason: the Transformer is both a tablet and a netbook, whereas the others are netbooks only.
There are certain things, like browsing, ebook reading, multimedia, newsgroup reading, etc., basically anything that doesn't require copious amounts of text entry, that I simply find more pleasant and efficient on a tablet. The tablet can be used in more situations and positions (lying down, standing up, etc.) and the direct interaction with the touchscreen feels more natural.
Of course, anything that requires large amounts of data entry are better on a device with a physical keyboard. And that's what makes the Transformer special: use it as a tablet when that makes sense, and then when you're ready to start writing, just pop it in the dock. And, the dock also makes for a nice way to carry the device around (a little heavier but protects the screen) and serves as a nice portable charger. Heck, I even use the dock to charge my smartphone when I'm out and about. And, because it's based on a mobile processor that generates very little heat, I can even use it on my lap in bed without worrying about blocking heating vents or getting overheated--there are no vents, of course, and it runs very cool.
Overall, I'm finding that for 95% of what I do when I'm highly mobile (maybe 100%, but I'm being conservative here), the Transformer works perfectly. It's really a great hybrid device that's really pretty unique at this point.
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I agree with this. I don't use my laptop much at all anymore. My wife uses it far more than me, though she uses it for work as she works from home. I just picked up the transformer prime off of craigslist with the dock for only $200, no lie. Great deal for me. Does the majority of what I would use laptop for in the evenings. If I am going go do any development (I'm a Software developer) then I'll use my desktop anyway.
I briefly considered a chrome book actually. I have a friend that has one and loves it. I like the instant on-ness of it, and it browses the web using chrome which is what I use on the desktop so all bookmarks etc would be there. I just wasn't ready to make the leap to a computer that is that limited quite yet. At least with android, I still have apps and a linux base, etc. Plus I love the touch screen aspect, and the portability of it. Just wish it supported opening apps in windows rather than everything being full screen.

buy a tablet and a netbook.

[INFO] What the Transformer plus dock can do for you

The more I use my TF the more I like it. Although I understand that people with problems need to vent I want to add another positive post to the forum.
First off, I do NOT believe that there is such a thing as the "perfect tablet" (but that doesn't mean that there is not a lot of crap out there!). For some the iPad might be the best, for others the XOOM, for some the Transformer or even the Nook Color.
Now here are some of the Transformer's benefits that make it the currently best tablet for me:
The dock. This was probably the main reason for switching from the XOOM. I was looking for a case with Bluetooth keyboard for so long that the dock just came like an answer to my quest. I do a lot of typing so a physical keyboard was a must for me. The additional battery life and connectors are a HUGE plus (see more below). The keyboard is very sturdy and it is fun to type on. And of course the touch pad. Especially when browsing the web the pointer makes it indefinitely easier to click those tiny links!
ASUS's software. The widgets are minimalistic and beautiful. They add to the Honeycomb experience without forcing a manufacturer's UI upon the user. The applications that are included are well designed and work great.
Polaris Office. So far the best office suite that I have tested. This restores my faith in developers caring about productivity on tablet as compared to only entertainment and "consumption".
Connectivity. I was amazed. I have setup media sharing on my PC so I could stream videos and music to my PS3s. The first time I fired up MyNet it automatically detected my PC and the content was instantly available. No settings to alter, no messing around. Then just yesterday I connected my external HDD (NTFS) where I ripped all my movies in HD (as compared to the 640x480 res for my iPod). It also was detected and mounted automatically and the content plays flawlessly (with Mobo Player). SD card, microSD card, everything works out of the box; I remember how much trouble that was with the XOOM...
The display. Well, admittedly, an IPS screen is just great even though it might not have the most natural color reproduction or brightness. However, the viewing angles and contrast are amazing! I also like the wider bezel (compared to the XOOM) which allows for holding it in one hand without touching the actual touch screen (and I have not the biggest hands!). Sure, I have a bit of light bleed but the one on my Nook Color is worse. If I want to see it I will...
Updates. For not being a "Pure Android Experience Device" the ASUS got updates rather frequently. There seems to be a real person from ASUS support active in this forum and on other social media like facebook (in Europe at least).
Weight and Build. The TF feels nice and light when held. That it is made of plastic is unfortunate because it does feel kind of cheap but it is not too flimsy. I was apprehensive about the goldenish color but I have gotten used to it. I covered the back with carbon fiber skin though
So everyone considering to buy one of these I can only recommend it. There might be some lemons out there but you will have that with every device. If you want to wait for the newest gadgets, good luck, because as soon as you buy a high-tech device you can be sure that it's obsolete a week later...
Hope that helps some folks that were still indecisive.

I have to agree with you my experience with the transformer and dock has been wonderful. My roomate asks why I didn't just buy a net book/laptop and whenever I detach the tablet and go to work or a coffee shop it makes it worth it all. Being able to have the tablet for casual use and the dock for longer/power use is the flexibility a lot of people want. For the most part at home it's in the dock just for ease of use, battery, and I don't have to prop it up on something.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Great post!
I would like my Transformer build quality to be a little better, but otherwise I can't complain too much after getting my dock firmware update.
It is so cool to snap the Transformer into the dock and have a netbook with an additional SD card of storage. The keyboard is pretty good, but the trackpad is amazing. I really like the feel of it. Using the trackpad doesn't feel tacked on either, Honeycomb feels like it was designed to be used with a mouse and keyboard.
I also really liked how my tablet was down to about 40% power, and when I put it in the dock it automatically started leeching energy from the dock and recharging itself. Now that is impressive! (The dock wasn't even plugged in.)
Really looking forward to Honeycomb 3.1!

bleclair said:
Great post!
I would like my Transformer build quality to be a little better, but otherwise I can't complain too much after getting my dock firmware update.
It is so cool to snap the Transformer into the dock and have a netbook with an additional SD card of storage. The keyboard is pretty good, but the trackpad is amazing. I really like the feel of it. Using the trackpad doesn't feel tacked on either, Honeycomb feels like it was designed to be used with a mouse and keyboard.
I also really liked how my tablet was down to about 40% power, and when I put it in the dock it automatically started leeching energy from the dock and recharging itself. Now that is impressive! (The dock wasn't even plugged in.)
Really looking forward to Honeycomb 3.1!
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Good point! I forgot the touch pad. Will add it right now

Two things also impressed me about the keyboard dock that I hadn't thought of and wasn't expecting:
1. My Logitech Anywhere MX mouse works perfectly with it. Just plug the adapter into one of the dock's USB ports and it just works. For whatever reason, I didn't think it would, but I'm very happy to see that it works so well.
2. I've been using the dock to charge my Epic while away from a charger. I also hadn't thought about using the dock as a portable charger for my phone, but that works great as well.
Overall, this combo is working better than I expected, and I think my expectations were pretty high. I haven't used my HP Envy 14 notebook since I got the dock, and so I'm left wishing the TF had been available last November. Would have saved me $1000 for the Envy.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

wynand32 said:
2. I've been using the dock to charge my Epic while away from a charger. I also hadn't thought about using the dock as a portable charger for my phone, but that works great as well.
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However, I noticed you can only charge a device when the tablet is docked.
I still can't believe the dock didn't come with it's own power cord. For $150 it really, really should have.

shoehopper said:
However, I noticed you can only charge a device when the tablet is docked.
I still can't believe the dock didn't come with it's own power cord. For $150 it really, really should have.
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Yes, that's true: the tablet has to be docked, but it doesn't have to be open or turned on. So, when stored for carrying it can charge.
And agreed: it would have been nice to have another charger and cable. Given the build quality of the dock and the fact that it includes a full-size battery, I don't know that $150 is enough at retail to give the gross margins they're looking for if they included an adapter and cable. And given that they're pricing the tablet at $399, I'm sure they're happy to maybe squeeze out a few bucks of additional gross margin out of the dock.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

The killer features were undoubtfully keyboard with a trackpad (I hate taking hands off the keyboard just to move focus around), and the battery life.
Also, I see this becoming an awesome combo once running desktop Linux on it is perfected. That way I can pick whether I want the battery-conserving Android or full-size productivity desktop at any given moment.

int_19h said:
The killer features were undoubtfully keyboard with a trackpad (I hate taking hands off the keyboard just to move focus around), and the battery life.
Also, I see this becoming an awesome combo once running desktop Linux on it is perfected. That way I can pick whether I want the battery-conserving Android or full-size productivity desktop at any given moment.
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I have never used Linux (well, I tried to use it in the late 90s) but just to have the option is exciting! I wish to have an OS that allows for multitasking in different windows, even if it's just 2 or 3. Hopefully the Android of the future will have that!

funnycreature said:
The more I use my TF the more I like it. Although I understand that people with problems need to vent I want to add another positive post to the forum.
First off, I do NOT believe that there is such a thing as the "perfect tablet" (but that doesn't mean that there is not a lot of crap out there!). For some the iPad might be the best, for others the XOOM, for some the Transformer or even the Nook Color.
Now here are some of the Transformer's benefits that make it the currently best tablet for me:
The dock. This was probably the main reason for switching from the XOOM. I was looking for a case with Bluetooth keyboard for so long that the dock just came like an answer to my quest. I do a lot of typing so a physical keyboard was a must for me. The additional battery life and connectors are a HUGE plus (see more below). The keyboard is very sturdy and it is fun to type on. And of course the touch pad. Especially when browsing the web the pointer makes it indefinitely easier to click those tiny links!
ASUS's software. The widgets are minimalistic and beautiful. They add to the Honeycomb experience without forcing a manufacturer's UI upon the user. The applications that are included are well designed and work great.
Polaris Office. So far the best office suite that I have tested. This restores my faith in developers caring about productivity on tablet as compared to only entertainment and "consumption".
Connectivity. I was amazed. I have setup media sharing on my PC so I could stream videos and music to my PS3s. The first time I fired up MyNet it automatically detected my PC and the content was instantly available. No settings to alter, no messing around. Then just yesterday I connected my external HDD (NTFS) where I ripped all my movies in HD (as compared to the 640x480 res for my iPod). It also was detected and mounted automatically and the content plays flawlessly (with Mobo Player). SD card, microSD card, everything works out of the box; I remember how much trouble that was with the XOOM...
The display. Well, admittedly, an IPS screen is just great even though it might not have the most natural color reproduction or brightness. However, the viewing angles and contrast are amazing! I also like the wider bezel (compared to the XOOM) which allows for holding it in one hand without touching the actual touch screen (and I have not the biggest hands!). Sure, I have a bit of light bleed but the one on my Nook Color is worse. If I want to see it I will...
Updates. For not being a "Pure Android Experience Device" the ASUS got updates rather frequently. There seems to be a real person from ASUS support active in this forum and on other social media like facebook (in Europe at least).
Weight and Build. The TF feels nice and light when held. That it is made of plastic is unfortunate because it does feel kind of cheap but it is not too flimsy. I was apprehensive about the goldenish color but I have gotten used to it. I covered the back with carbon fiber skin though
So everyone considering to buy one of these I can only recommend it. There might be some lemons out there but you will have that with every device. If you want to wait for the newest gadgets, good luck, because as soon as you buy a high-tech device you can be sure that it's obsolete a week later...
Hope that helps some folks that were still indecisive.
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Such positive vibes! maybe it's not as bad as some people are trying to make out

Agree with the OP on most points. People have to keep in mind that the users with bogus units are always going to be the most vocal so it makes it seem like there are more problems than happy customers.
After the latest update that fixed my dock/keyboard, I am 99% happy. I have a discernable amount of light-bleed at the bottom left that bugs me a bit when watching video/on a dark screen. If not for that, i would be at 100%.
My sleep of death issue seems to have gone away and beside the high profile x264 issue, I don't regret my purchase one bit.

the list keeps growing!
Just shamelessly bumping this thread due to plenty of whiny 'I return my Transformer for the iPad' threads...
More things that I love about the TF:
Overclock. Yep, it's done! Several kernels now available (Netarchy's Netformer, Blades' 1.6GHz MEATABALL).
Network integration. I mentioned that in the OP but I have to reiterate how great the TF works with the installed software. The past few days I was cleaning the house a lot and simply turned on my PC, turned on my TF and streamed videos and music without having to adjust anything.
USB ports. Also mentioned in the OP. I found an awesome use for them: hooked up a goose neck USB reading light and the keyboard shone even more

[Q] Transformer vs ipad

Hi,
I am a writer and I need a tablet for writing. I am looking for a moderately light weighted device on which I can use word/word like app to read, write, edit, open ms office docs ( with the slightest of changes possible)
I am not sure whether I should go for ipad or Transformer- In pages ( ipad) they provide a lot of features similar to word and you need to compromise on footnotes etc. Also I guess some slight inconveniences in import/export
Transformer - Polaris can open ms word files and edit
so am a bit confused which one to buy ...looking forward to suggestions

The answer you're pretty much going to get here will be the TF. But that's not without good reason. Both are useful, but with the developer support here and the open environment of Android, you really can't go wrong with the TF.

plus the keyboard doc makes it so much more useful for writing with.

For what you describe I would recommend the TF, but this is the TF forum isn't it !
iPad is great for media consumption & there is a lot of developer focus on it right now, so the apps are abundant and very good.
Android on the TF feels like a good start - it is stable, provides a neat way to use the device & app support will grow rapidly.
Using the TF from a h/w perspective you can't go wrong - without the dock it is a good tablet and handles well - with the dock it becomes a good device for production of data, whether in word processing or spreadsheet.
I bought one last week & my wife (a total Luddite) is incredibly happy with it for writing her school reports, doing her home & work email & accessing all sorts of websites (even those with Flash).

iPad users can only do what their gawd Steve allows them to do.

I dropped the ipad plus keyboard in favor of eee pad plus dock.
Typing with ipad is simply not practical because of dull keyboard support, and I'm beeing polite.
Eeepad is close to netbook and probably 90% of laptop usage potential. Keyboard is not perfect but with the mouse on top, it does allow for productive work.
Still, iOS is very very good at reading. Very really.
The other plus plus is usb and file system access.
I'm sure it will come to iOS soon but you never know the odd limitations you'll get.
Eeepad filesystem support is 100% out of the box and more if you root it.
I realized that producing documents requires that soon enough. I thought I could use Ipad + apps but the bottom line is that it didn't really allow the same producivity as Eeepad.
And the cost.....

doe eyes said:
Hi,
I am a writer and I need a tablet for writing. I am looking for a moderately light weighted device on which I can use word/word like app to read, write, edit, open ms office docs ( with the slightest of changes possible)
I am not sure whether I should go for ipad or Transformer- In pages ( ipad) they provide a lot of features similar to word and you need to compromise on footnotes etc. Also I guess some slight inconveniences in import/export
Transformer - Polaris can open ms word files and edit
so am a bit confused which one to buy ...looking forward to suggestions
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My vote goes to the TF!!! With the docking station, you can't go, especially in your field of work!!!

This is exactly why I got the Transformer: I do a good deal of long-form writing, and wanted a platform that would give me a device I can take anywhere without worrying about power, is easy to use in a variety of circumstances, and has a good physical keyboard.
The Transformer works on all accounts. I use Quickoffice Pro HD for writing/editing Word docs, and sync via SugarSync. The only problem with this scenario is that there's a Honeycomb bug that doesn't allow for offline syncing via SugarSync. So, if I know I'll be away from an Internet connection I need to plan ahead re: which documents I take with me. That doesn't happen often, however, and there's always tethering via my phone in a pinch.
The keyboard on the dock is outstanding for pure writing, probably the best I've used on such a small machine. It's a bit smaller than standard, but has a very nice feel and performs well with the tablet (no lag whatsoever anywhere outside of the stock browser, where it doesn't really matter for me). And, the dock/tablet combo is preferable to a standard netbook/notebook in that it lasts for a solid 15-16 hours on a single charge between the dock and tablet batteries, and runs cool. That means I can use it at night in bed without worrying about covering any heat vents or having a flat surface to balance a tablet and separate Bluetooth keyboard.
And, the tablet itself works great for all the standard modern tablet stuff of media consumption, browsing, email, Twitter, etc. Simply put, as a writer, I can't think of a more functional, productive, and fun tool--and certainly, none for $550 total.
Highly recommended.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

If you were to ask this question on an Apple forum, the response would be the exact opposite. Good luck.
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TF wins - but is not the only answer
Hi mate,
I own both an ipad and a TF. From a comfort of use point of view for content creation I vote the TF
This is the unfashionable thing to say on this forum but have you considered not using a tablet but getting a netbook instead?
Don't get me wrong - I love tablets and android but if this is a work tool you should ask yourself what feels good to use. You may find that a nimble little netbook with windows offers you more of what you need. lots of people prefer the familiarity of windows for work purposes.
It all just comes down to what your are most comfortable with.

eli.kennedy said:
This is the unfashionable thing to say on this forum but have you considered not using a tablet but getting a netbook instead?
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Which is why the Transformer STILL wins over the iPad. Get the dock and it becomes a Netbook.
Win/Win.
I have a Transformer and a 1 gen iPad. Ever since I got the Transformer.....the iPad collected dust.

I just got an iPad 2, and it is significantly lighter and easier to hold.
the screen quality is also around as good as the transformer's screen, except the low resolution on the ipad is very disappointing.
I've used both versions of the iPad before, and although the ipad 2 is much easier to hold, things tend to stick to the aluminum body of the iPads.
right now, I'm still stuck to the transformer

I'm a writer also and I opted for the TF over the iPad2. I assume that he wants the tablet for reading, and not actually writing on it. The TF is heavier which can make your arms tired if you dont rest it against something which is a pretty big negative. Otherwise the TF wins in every other category imo.

cottinghamm said:
iPad is great for media consumption & there is a lot of developer focus on it right now, so the apps are abundant and very good.
Android on the TF feels like a good start - it is stable, provides a neat way to use the device & app support will grow rapidly.
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This sums it up for me too.
I came from the iPhone as my first smartphone and real mobile device.
After switching to android, with Epic 4G, I was a little disappointed at the lack of apps in comparison. However, this is fixed with time and I like the android approach better.
I can deal with a few bugs here and there and a few force closes because I am comfortable with computers and troubleshooting etc. I am not sure if this is true of the average iPad buyer.
The dock on the TF sealed the deal for me. It is a fantastic mobile device. Long battery life, always on - no boot time, keyboard access, usable touchscreen interface (vs a touch tablet windows os or something), no fans, no heat, no noise. It is a bit different from a netbook.
Although, I also have a full 17" laptop... for real work purposes. For productivity and efficiency, I can't function that well with a small screen, low resolution, small keyboard etc. No idea how people can do it hehe.
For all the little things, that a tiny portable awesome device needs to do, the TF seems to work for me.

Whilst I agree you will get a more 'pro tf 'view on here you will also get a better overview in here than on an apple forum as many tf users have tried both. On an apple forum you may struggle to find anyone who has even heard of a Tf.
I have a tf and my laptop now gathers dust .......

I love my Transfomer but I wish I had ??? and why.

Hello, TF'ers. I'am asking a simple question for those who love their Transformers but for some reason is lusting after one of the other tablet's. Please list the tablet you wish you could have and why.
Thanks.

I have my TF101 and I'm happily satisfied with my purchase.

I love this thing. Nothing else comes close.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.

I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.

More than happy with my TF'er. Tried the Zoom, tried the Ipad2 but neither come close. I'm mildly interested in the GT 10.2 to see what the fuss is about but the lack of SD card immediately puts a dampener on it.

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I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once. I have 2 usb's slots and both SD and MiniSD card slots. I use a wireless mouse and BT headset nd get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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As a launch-day Pre purchaser who converted to Android in January of this year, I have to admit that I'm intrigued by the TouchPad. webOS really is SOOOO much better in terms of multitasking that I'd love to have it on a tablet.
However, there are three things that temper this notion. First, webOS does not and likely will not have the apps that I need for quite some time. The TouchPad won't even have Office document editing out the door, which is simply ridiculous. I can't believe that Samsung can completely redesign their tablet and release it in a few months, while HP can't get a single freaking app written that's absolutely vital to their product's success. Really, webOS made me promise myself never to buy something for a feature that's "coming soon."
Second, until a tablet has a keyboard dock as functional as the Transformer's, I'd have a hard time switching over. There's simply no better device for straight writing (i.e., just laying words down on the page) on the go. If HP releases a similar hybrid device someday, I'll think about it (assuming the apps are there), but Transformer is just a great all-around mobile device.
Third, while webOS is a nice OS in many ways, I'm disappointed that HP didn't design it to make better use of a tablet's screen size. Ultimately, webOS 3.X is just a blown-up version of the smartphone OS, with the same number of cards showing, only bigger. They could have done so much more with it. I really like how Honeycomb's screens can provide so much useful information at a glance. I often just turn my TF on, check to see if I have any emails, upcoming appointments, what the weather's like, etc., etc., and then just turn it back off. It's like a dashboard for my life, and so far no other tablet OS comes close in this respect.

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...........It's like a dashboard for my life.........
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Thats how I would describe it to the "T". You should sent that to Asus for branding...lmao
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Love my Transformer... But wish I have an iPad only due to the vast number of case options available. However I'm looking forward to receiving my multi-angle rooCase.

I don't undestand why you would want any other tablet (at least any other android tablet)
The TF offers everything all the other android tablets offer PLUS MORE... Anything else would just be a downgrade.

the only thing I'm lusting for currently is a fully functional Netflix app. I really love to watch movies quietly at night and currently have to switch over to my Nook Color to do this. TF is awesome, working Netflix would make it total perfection for my needs.

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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
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The Transformer is better than the iconia. I had one, the screen on it sucks and it weighs a lot more. The only things it has over the transformer are the aluminum body (I actually prefer the transformer's body but most like aluminum that I've talked to) and the speakers have more bass. IMO the transformer wins hands down.
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ClevelandWheeler said:
I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once.
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Bollocks
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ClevelandWheeler said:
get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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Did you do something special to your batteries?

I wish it had normal browser like Chrome with extensions and such. I wish it had mouse hover capabilities.

I have a XFormer, but would love a Xoom, but only to see the benefit of Internal 3G.
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Yep the grass always seems greener on the other side. I'm lucky enough to be able to try them all out. I've got the Asus Iconia, the Transformer, and iPad 2 already, and the Galaxy 10.2 is in the mail. Starting to get a better profile of how I use them. Want to copy your camera photos to the tablet? Something with an SD slot will make you happier. Have movies on an external USB hard drive? Having a standard USB port will make you giddy if you want a movie off that drive to watch on your tablet. These emotional highs are momentary moments though, and 99% of the time I'm just playing games, reading email, checking the web, facebook, youtube. Every tablet does these fine, and during that time I appreciate the lighter ones. They all have a way to add a keyboard to them. Bluetooth is easy, especially once you've paired a keyboard. Apple and Samsung have $69 keyboard docks for their thin tablet dock ports. You pay more to get the Transformer's keyboard dock, but you get a far better integrated and multi-functional add-on for your money. Hooking up to these is an inconvenience of varying degrees. You are not likely to have the iPad or Galaxy keyboard docks with you when you leave the house, so they suck. Good bluetooth keyboards are always wider than these tablets are, and as such less likely to fit in the same case with your tablet. If you've got a case for your Transformer, it is likely for netbooks and will hold both the tablet and keyboard together. So if you prefer a physical keyboard to an onscreen one, the Transformer is clearly the standout choice. You have to weigh that importance though, as that keyboard dock doubles the total weight you'll be carrying.
I've been working on a showdown between these tablets for my blog. Easy enough to ding this one and promote another for a slot or port or not. Not sure the small time these features come into play will aggravate a user enough to choose ports over weight/looks though. Money obviously play a role, as the difference between the Asus and a full set of features with its dock and an iPad with all the same features via add-ons is huge. It help that the Asus starts out $100 under the iPad. Samsung is certainly brave going head-on with Apple, I'll give them that. They must be thinking that iPad buyers didn't mind no MicroSD or USB ports, and millions were sold, so microSD and USB ports don't really matter. They might be right. Time will tell if they sell more Android Honeycomb tablets than Asus. I can't see them ever catching up to iPad sales though, with nothing to add value to iPad prices. Pay that much and you might as well get an iPad. JMHO.

I am a very happy Transformer owner, everything else (at the moment) on the market, even the ipad 2, would be downgrading.

I love my ASUS transformer too.
However, if I had to pick another table between xoom or samsung galaxy v2 10.1 or iPad.
I would get the Samsung Galaxy 10.1, I checked it out at Best Buy yesterday and it was pretty nice. No lag at all either and it was very responsive.
Sometimes my transformer feels unresponsive, and it lags but it could be due to my tons of widgets on the home screen.
However if Samsung did have a keyboard dock like transformer, I would hop on it however I heard their updates were lacking and slow to be released.
Though I like how its lighter, thinner the transformer, and looks a bit nicer. Also I enjoyed the PLS screen as it also had more VIBRANT colors then the transformer.

why did you choose this over the acer iconia and asus transformer?

the 2 are much cheaper and has more options for storage expansion and connectivity.
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Screen quality, weight, battery life.
Those were my points in favor of the Galaxy Tab. And since storage expansion wasn't even on my list, I chose the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Just about the same reason. 16gb is way more than I need on a day to day basis, plus if I need to off load or swap a movie I can wifi FTP to my phone or use dropbox. I have no need to ever connect my tab via HDMI... if I needed this kind of feature I would have gone with a cheap laptop.
So better screen, better battery, better sound, lighter, looks alot nicer... I also really like touchwiz.

Just like everybody else who will post in here, thinness and weight. I use cloud storage for everything or use USB with my desktop. Not a single tablet on the market is a real laptop replacement so basically I just use the tablet for media consumption and some gaming. Basically though when I went to best buy the 10.1 just felt incredible in my hands. I drain the battery every two days going over my RSS feeds or viewing websites and the occasional Netflix video. So just as above, great battery.
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Form factor, the Tab is light & slim, the picture quality is marvelous & the build quality is superior

Pretty much what everybody in this thread already said.

Oleophobic coating, 8.9mm thick.
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Just like everybody else who will post in here, thinness and weight. I use cloud storage for everything or use USB with my desktop. Not a single tablet on the market is a real laptop replacement so basically I just use the tablet for media consumption and some gaming. Basically though when I went to best buy the 10.1 just felt incredible in my hands. I drain the battery every two days going over my RSS feeds or viewing websites and the occasional Netflix video. So just as above, great battery.
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This.
I stream most of my media to the device so connectivity is less important to me. I also think using any portable device for streaming to a TV or home theatre isn't optimum with this generation of h/w so the lack of onboard HDMI isn't important. I got a 32GB version because I travel internationally a lot and download content for long plane flights. Samsung also does the best job with drivers for handling audio and video codecs. I have 2K songs stored locally on the device with a Rhapsody subscription which play via the stock music player or Bluetooth. It's because of Samsung's DRM support. I tried a HTC Jetstream for a week but it weighed a ton in comparison which makes a huge difference on the road and it sucked at video and audio support. The G-Tab also has a bunch of great accessories. I got it a Zenus Carbon Fiber leather case and people always comment on it. Besides, if you don't get a G-Tab people won't ask you "how do you like your iPad?"

build and screen quality were my reasons. I went through 3 tfs and 4 xooms before I settled with the gt10.1.

I use my 10.1 primarily as a textbook (science and engineering mainly) replacement, so screen is absolute first priority.

Thinner, lighter, faster, better. I have no need for ports as you can transfer files over bluetooth or a network pretty easily and quickly. When I was in Best Buy the other day I was just looking at the other tablets and I have no regrets. They are so bulky.

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Too much bezel on other tablets
Lack of 3g a factor too.
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Form factor and screen.

I have one that hasn't been mentioned...
I bought my tab two months ago at Best Buy. I have a Samsung Captivate, and the GPS has been, let's say, underwhelming. So I flipped on the GPS on the Toshiba Thrive. It was "searching for satellites" for a while, so I went over to the tab and did the same thing. Instantly locked in. I pulled up maps and looked at the satellite view, and it placed me inside the store. I went back to the Thrive, and it was still searching for satellites. Sold me right there.
I took the tab on a backpacking trip, and used the Maverick app to display USGS topos, and if we ever wanted to know where we were, I pulled out the tab, and got a lock within seconds. Plus watched some shows, read a book, did crosswords, etc. Great value for me.

Screen is way better than Asus Transformer and Acer Iconia. Weight. Didn't need any ports because I stream most all my content.. movies, music, etc from home network.
I can easily mount in my vehicle. Plus it must looks cooler than any of the other
tabs out. btw 8.9 was just released and now a 7 here soon. So portable.
Erusman

sparkyxda said:
Too much bezel on other tablets
Lack of 3g a factor too.
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too much? dont you mean too little... the Gtab10.1 has more than the xoom does...
my reasons were it was new...
amazing screen...
light weight
thin...

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too much? dont you mean too little... the Gtab10.1 has more than the xoom does...
my reasons were it was new...
amazing screen...
light weight
thin...
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The bezel on the Transformer, for instance, is enormous making it really long and difficult to hold.
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Geekbabe said:
Form factor, the Tab is light & slim, the picture quality is marvelous & the build quality is superior
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What he says.

Pretty much everything has been said already, it's light, it's thin, looks good, great screen. Already had the SGS2 so would of known this would be decent as well.
I'm not bothered that it doesn't have no sd card and such 16GB is ample for me, google music takes care of that!
7.7 looks fantastic though but ill skip that and wait for next get tablets due soon.