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[Article]-Xoom screen = BAD

ouch...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/22/motorola-xoom-display-is-low-end-and-poorly-calibrated-according-to-displaymate-showdown/

Say it aint so. Heh
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Just a repost of what Xoom owners have known since they first bought their tablet.
The screen is garbage.

almostinsane said:
Just a repost of what Xoom owners have known since they first bought their tablet.
The screen is garbage.
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I like mine but that crap about the screen dimmer is true and it is annoying

Yawn neeeeeext!
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The screen is just as good as any regular average computer monitor.

Transformer= cheap p.o.s. build quality & ****ty battery (tablet only, who really cares about it's performance as a netbook? if i wanted one i'd buy one)
Ipad2= nice, but like being on house arrest, or watching tv with everything over PG on parental lock. far too many limits.
I'm very happy with my Xoom and it's "bad" screen.

Hi all,
Well the first thing i did when i set my Xoom up was turn off Auto Brightness as i do on all my devcies and turned brightness on full and found the screen on the Xoom to be bright and sharp. Then i strated reading all these posts about how poor the Xoom screen was and just couldn't understand it at all as my experiences are totally different. Only when i turned on the Auto brightness did i suddenly see what the compliants where about as it made the screen horrible. But really the fix is so simple just don't use Auto brightness and its all good IMHO.
Marc

Actually, if you read carefully through the test results, none of the displays did all that well. What really put the XOOM screen in last place was screen reflections and poor viewing angles, in most other critical tests, results were equal to or close to the competition.
If you put an anti-reflective screen protector on the XOOM, it compensates well for the XOOM's biggest shortcoming, screen reflections - (I use Boxwave Cleartouch Anti-Glare on the XOOM) the difference is pretty amazing and the screen looks quite good.
I am surprised that these professional reviewers made no mention of the two versions of the XOOM screen. So we don't even know which screen version they reviewed.

i llike the zoom screen. With autobrightness on.

Yep, I've turned off auto-brighness and have an anti-glare, anti-fingerprint screen protector and I've never looked back. I have zero complaints about the screen now.

Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....

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Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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+1. I completely agree. This whole thread seems like not much more than an exercise to justify someone's choice to sell the Xoom for another tablet.
I use A LOT of devices during my work day....and in terms of day to day use I have been very happy with the Xoom's screen.

ed.dark said:
Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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I totally agree. There will always be something bigger ( so to speak) and better what I find funny is that they didn't mention the bleeds and dust specks people are having on those other screens. There screen might be better but mines clearer oh and it works like it suppose to.
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I went to Bestbuy on Sat and looked at the SGT10.1 and iPad 2, played with both for a good few minutes, I'd say the iPad is at the top in terms of screen crispness and picture quality, iPad OS in general is very polished ... the SGT and Xoom imo is a close second, I have an anti glare protector on my Xoom so it does reduce the picture quality obviously. As said above set the brightness to 50-60% and you will see the Xoom screen pop.
All in all the Xoom will stay with me for two reasons ... SD card access (I have mine rooted so no crying about lack of SD access) and 2ndly it is so versatile having access to ROM's and Kernels, this kills my desire to ever want an iPad, I hate to be boxed in.

It's funny, the screen was one of the major reasons I returned my iPad2. I hated it because the resolution was too low, which made text look horrible.
The Xoom screen is brilliant as long as you take the brightness off auto.

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The Xoom screen is brilliant as long as you take the brightness off auto.
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That! Think that this was the first thing that I did on my Xoom.

I was using an ipad 2 the other day and yes the screen is far clearer but my xoom feels more like a mans toy rather then a childs toy.
dont mind having a worse screen when my battery lasts 4 days and i can do what i want with it and not controlled my apple.
also wouldnt get the transformer due to the speaker locations makes it to wide.
you get what you are happy with.

i love my xoom. i came from the viewsonic gtab so i naturally love the xoom screen compared to the gtab.

nthknd said:
I totally agree. There will always be something bigger ( so to speak) and better what I find funny is that they didn't mention the bleeds and dust specks people are having on those other screens. There screen might be better but mines clearer oh and it works like it suppose to.
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I think it's silly the "guru" of displays didn't review the GTab 10.1, since it's using a PLS screen which is Samsung's competitor to IPS.
Regarding the 'comparison' comments however: I was recently seated next to a woman on a flight from NYC and she had an iPad2. As I sat there and looked at a magazine on my xoom, I couldn't help but notice that her screen had outstanding viewing angles. When I put the xoom onto my lap and looked at it, the colors washed out and looked terrible. I ended up returning it and bought a GTab instead.
So - I think comparisons are valid, here. Especially in an environment where a direct comparison could be made. In my case it was on a plane, where I happen to be a lot.
The GTab's screen is fantastic. As good as the iPad2. The build quality on my unit is fine, but there are a lot of complaints about dust under the screen, and so on. I would gladly go back to the 'thicker' xoom if they came out with a higher quality screen. The xoom felt great. But in the end, the screen sucked (I had the Sharp with bad light leakage) and that was, in a word, unacceptable - no matter how many people trumpet out that screen bleeding on tablets is normal. It's not.

Look what I got

Both the s6 and edge

Congratulations!! Why both ? I just want to buy one , but still don't know which one to buy
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I didn't buy them and I don't own them, I would go for the regular s6,the edge just doesn't feel good in the hand for me.

I don't have the opportunity to try both and choose one like you! Instead I gonna go to bestbuy store to check if they have on display...
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knives89 said:
I didn't buy them and I don't own them, I would go for the regular s6,the edge just doesn't feel good in the hand for me.
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This seems to be a personal preference thing. Half the reviews think the Edge is nicer to hold and the other half don't like how sharp the sides are. Same with the M9 -- some reviewers like the extra grip from the lip but some felt it was uncomfortable and dug into their hands.

knives89 said:
I didn't buy them and I don't own them, I would go for the regular s6,the edge just doesn't feel good in the hand for me.
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For me it wasnt that bad to hold at all
What else apart from the feel in hand makes you prefer the standard s6? I only had 20 minutes or so but decided on the standard due to it having:
sharper clearer screen
undistorted video viewing and images just looked better
better tempered glass protector and case fitting chances
This after being dead set on buying the edge, tell us your thoughts

lawtq said:
For me it wasnt that bad to hold at all
What else apart from the feel in hand makes you prefer the standard s6? I only had 20 minutes or so but decided on the standard due to it having:
sharper clearer screen
undistorted video viewing and images just looked better
better tempered glass protector and case fitting chances
This after being dead set on buying the edge, tell us your thoughts
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The edge feels much to small, coming from a note 4 that might be expected of most phone but the edge felt a lot smaller then the s6. I also didn't like the fact that it's harder to see content on the edges cause it does wrap around, to me those "benefits" don't make up for the difference in price me, especially when I was all for the edge before I got to hold then both. Keep in mind though, that's just my opinion.

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The edge feels much to small, coming from a note 4 that might be expected of most phone but the edge felt a lot smaller then the s6. I also didn't like the fact that it's harder to see content on the edges cause it does wrap around, to me those "benefits" don't make up for the difference in price me, especially when I was all for the edge before I got to hold then both. Keep in mind though, that's just my opinion.
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It's like you're explaining exactly how I felt. Gimmicky and disappointed is what I was left feeling when I was ready to make love to it as I walked in. Before all this I was cursing the standard one for being boring and nothing special. I was wrong
I think Samsung will increase its use later. But I watch a lot of video and like that crisper flatter screen

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First Impressions about HTC U11

Hello, everyone!
I watched few reviews about the phone...And really sorry to say it but I'm not much impressed, but I definitely will upgrade to from htc one m8. Big htc fan here . I like the style, screen, colours ..Can't really say about the camera probably will be good.The new sound should be awesome + the headphones... But when come to the software..... For one year they didn't touch the sense? Really ? Even TouchWiz is changing, can't understand why htc decided to stay at sense 8, or like is now just "HTC Sense UI" . In the whole review, I generally see - The colours, squeeze (I think they too much depending on this new feature which we still didn't know how it will work after month or two of using it), How google OK works that was fun tho , wasn't working the first few times and the 3d sound...And exactly how they said - simple. And I wasn't disappointed like this from quite long time .I expected something more "brilliant". They just made a review on software app - the edge stuff, htc companion and OK Google They even didn't mention htc sense, which didn't move much from 2015. Isn't this little bit pathetic to you? I want to hear your thoughts on that. Did you expect more, like me? Anyway, I'm still considering buying it when the sales start in my region.

Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa it will be a well done upgrade if new ways of using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come one step further as well. Only thing to name here, as it will already suffice, is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.

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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.
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Screen noticeably better than on 10. U11 is a "must update" for anyone holding prior to a 10. For 10 owners, not mandatory (but definitely better in several ways).

anyone listened to the headphones is it the same loudness of of htc 10 ?

Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa will be of a well done upgrade if new ways using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come One step further as well. Just One thing to name is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.

One thing I need to know, is the earpiece speaker better/louder than the horribly quiet 10? If I'm anywhere other than a relatively quiet place I can barely hear anyone on a phone call.

yung40oz84 said:
This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.
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Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I'm excited to see how the device does irl, I never pre-order. The echo dots are cool, but I don't think I will use them much. Also concerned about charging and using headphones at the same time. I do that at work and on flights. I might wait for the note 8, but that is a long way off and will probably be a huge phone.
For the money, I think the U11 is the best bang/buck combo, especially because it is unlocked, will have custom roms and all kinds of tweaks that this great community will use.
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force70 said:
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.

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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy

force70 said:
Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.

kirdroid said:
Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.
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Not a deal breaker for me either im just not a fan of the aesthetics.
The 5.5 screen is something i can't deal with though ...my s7 edge has it and I hate it (although the U11 would be alot better due to the normal aspect ratio). Its mostly why i went with the S8 plus....just for the screen size.

force70 said:
Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small.
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If a smartphone can be too thin for its own good, we can agree the same applies to bezels. I wager that people wanting less and less bezels aren't accustomed to the issues that come with them. First, a bezel adds strength... I'll let you take a guess as to what effect shrinking it would have on that. Then there's the absolutely annoying accidental touching issues... and no, cases don't help with that unless you use a really bulky case. I've never held or owned a phone and said "I wish the bezels were smaller" nor have I ever felt that bezels impeded any phone's functionality and my ability to use them.

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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small. You really think that the 0.3" that your S8+ has over this U11's 5.5" display really matters, ROFL? Don't make me laugh.
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Ive owned lots of phones from various manufacturers over the years including HTC. Other than the 6P there hasnt been anything else that Ive really liked the last few years other than what sammy has delivered.
And i guess your reading comprehension is not that great as i mentioned 2 things i wasnt a fan of on the U11...and I also mentioned everything else looked great.
Im here because the device does hold some interest for me...and because I can be. Dont like what i say....move along...
And i wont bother with your silliness after this, dont want the mods in here now do we?

Moderator Warning,
Guys enough of the bickering please. Can we keep the posts civil. I will be keeping a eye on this thread.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I actually got that dark blue

force70 said:
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.

LibertyMonger said:
this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.
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Please elaborate, Id like to see what exactly bezels...in particular top and bottom have to do with performance.
I could see before on the m7,m8 etc with the full front firing speakers but such is not the case with the U11.
And I wasnt remotely argumentative..i was merely sharing my first impression of the device as that is the thread title is it not?
Thanks.
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3 days with my XZP - quick thoughts.

Not a thorough review here... just thought I'd put up some initial impressions;
1. Battery seems great so far, but I usually let these devices settle a week or so before judging. My general experience with other Sony's is that the battery performance is awesome.
2. Camera and video really look great.
3. I do have the issue with picture distortion, but it's insanely difficult to spot unless I take a picture of a box or my keyboard.
4. Videos I've taken thus far look awesome - most of my captures are on mountain bike trails, so good lighting.
5. The device size seems better for me to handle than smaller phones (came from an HTC 10), and I have small-ish hands. It seems counter intuitive, but that's my feeling thus far.
6. The one screen protector I've tried (tempered) doesn't cover the entire glass surface, so this is like every other phone out there... don't expect good looks with tempered sp's.
7. Audio sounds great so far - still playing. Speaker volume is lower than my HTC 10, which is a bit disappointing.
8. FP reader is super fast, and I love it on the side of the phone as opposed to the front. Much more natural spot IMHO.

I think you forgot the link or text...

Shnig said:
I think you forgot the link or text...
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LOL, sorry. I hit "enter" and it posted :silly:

charlatan01 said:
Not a thorough review here... just thought I'd put up some initial impressions;
1. Battery seems great so far, but I usually let these devices settle a week or so before judging. My general experience with other Sony's is that the battery performance is awesome.
2. Camera and video really look great.
3. I do have the issue with picture distortion, but it's insanely difficult to spot unless I take a picture of a box or my keyboard.
4. Videos I've taken thus far look awesome - most of my captures are on mountain bike trails, so good lighting.
5. The device size seems better for me to handle than smaller phones (came from an HTC 10), and I have small-ish hands. It seems counter intuitive, but that's my feeling thus far.
6. The one screen protector I've tried (tempered) doesn't cover the entire glass surface, so this is like every other phone out there... don't expect good looks with tempered sp's.
7. Audio sounds great so far - still playing. Speaker volume is lower than my HTC 10, which is a bit disappointing.
8. FP reader is super fast, and I love it on the side of the phone as opposed to the front. Much more natural spot IMHO.
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Thank you for the review. Aside from the volume and the distortion, do you have any other negative comments about the phone? Generally been a positive experience so far has it?
Even if you are generally happy with the phone I think it would still be wise to report the distortion. It's important that Sony know how widespread this issue is.

charlatan01 said:
Not a thorough review here... just thought I'd put up some initial impressions;
1. Battery seems great so far, but I usually let these devices settle a week or so before judging. My general experience with other Sony's is that the battery performance is awesome.
2. Camera and video really look great.
3. I do have the issue with picture distortion, but it's insanely difficult to spot unless I take a picture of a box or my keyboard.
4. Videos I've taken thus far look awesome - most of my captures are on mountain bike trails, so good lighting.
5. The device size seems better for me to handle than smaller phones (came from an HTC 10), and I have small-ish hands. It seems counter intuitive, but that's my feeling thus far.
6. The one screen protector I've tried (tempered) doesn't cover the entire glass surface, so this is like every other phone out there... don't expect good looks with tempered sp's.
7. Audio sounds great so far - still playing. Speaker volume is lower than my HTC 10, which is a bit disappointing.
8. FP reader is super fast, and I love it on the side of the phone as opposed to the front. Much more natural spot IMHO.
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I agree with everything you stated in your brief review. Especially about the camera. I am no camera expert (seems like everyone today is a professional photographer wannabe...) I guess if you need to take photos of keyboards or grids you may see some distortion, but for regular photos mine looks great!
I too wish the speakers were capable of being just a little louder, but I guess this has to do with being waterproof. I can live with them as they are. Then again Sony may provide a patch that helps with the volume??? I too think the battery is great, but then again I am not watching movies or playing games on my phone. If I want to watch a movie I have an 80" Vizio in a theater room for that!
I do wish that Sony would unlink the ringtone from the notification volume. I know it's an Android thing but there are other phones running Nougat 7.1.1 that do have them unlinked. Other than that this phone is great!

Shnig said:
Thank you for the review. Aside from the volume and the distortion, do you have any other negative comments about the phone? Generally been a positive experience so far has it?
Even if you are generally happy with the phone I think it would still be wise to report the distortion. It's important that Sony know how widespread this issue is.
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Generally, I think the device is awesome, so it's been a positive experience for me. I have reported the distortion to Sony, and am going to go through their steps to resolve, which first means a factory reset through the Sony app (ugh!!
For the record, I've gone through a bunch of devices, and I do have 2 Sony's in my history. I am buy no means a fan boy. My son now has my HTC 10, and as much as I liked that phone, it doesn't hold a candle to the XZP.

charlatan01 said:
Generally, I think the device is awesome, so it's been a positive experience for me. I have reported the distortion to Sony, and am going to go through their steps to resolve, which first means a factory reset through the Sony app (ugh!!
For the record, I've gone through a bunch of devices, and I do have 2 Sony's in my history. I am buy no means a fan boy. My son now has my HTC 10, and as much as I liked that phone, it doesn't hold a candle to the XZP.
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Can I ask in what ways you like it over the 10?
I've got the HTC 10 at the moment and have been holding out to see what the OnePlus 5 is like, but I'm really tempted by this.

What happened to double tap to wake/sleep?
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alexp999 said:
Can I ask in what ways you like it over the 10?
I've got the HTC 10 at the moment and have been holding out to see what the OnePlus 5 is like, but I'm really tempted by this.
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Hmm, let's see. These are just my feelings, no scientific method behind it.
Build quality - the Sony always has a strong feel in the hand.
Handling - the 10 feels harder to handle in one hand than the xzp
Screen - xzp looks ridiculous. 10 is no slouch.
Dual speakers on the xzp.
Wfi connections on 5ghz is waaayyy better
Water resistance - I mountain bike a lot, so my devices get wet.
Flat back, and the camera doesn't protrude.

does anyone else have a problem with slow mo camera being too dark and grainy or is that just me cannot do anything in good lighting condition at all

darkcroc said:
does anyone else have a problem with slow mo camera being too dark and grainy or is that just me cannot do anything in good lighting condition at all
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I don't have this phone, but from my understanding on how camera works i think that you need a lot of light to not be dark and grainy. The faster is your shutter speed the more light you need. That is why who operates professional slo-mo cameras uses big lights to really brighten the scene. Try to make a slo-mo outside in a bright sunny day (with direct sun light on your subject) and you should see the difference.

charlatan01 said:
Hmm, let's see. These are just my feelings, no scientific method behind it.
Build quality - the Sony always has a strong feel in the hand.
Handling - the 10 feels harder to handle in one hand than the xzp
Screen - xzp looks ridiculous. 10 is no slouch.
Dual speakers on the xzp.
Wfi connections on 5ghz is waaayyy better
Water resistance - I mountain bike a lot, so my devices get wet.
Flat back, and the camera doesn't protrude.
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I'm surprised you find it easier to handle, that's the one thing making me reluctant is how much bigger than the HTC 10 it is. One handed must be impossible...

Nice to see a positive review. Upload some camera shots

figo_rulz11 said:
Nice to see a positive review. Upload some camera shots
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Thats what I thought too, but it's not as imposing as it looks. Additionally, it REALLY helps to have the FP reader on the side of the phone, It makes one handed operation easier IMHO.

Note20 Ultra Appreciation Thread

This phone is AMAZING. Holy crap. Near perfect phone, for me.
What's your favorite things about it so far? Any surprises? Things you've noticed?
For me:
-WOW 120Hz is amazing. Ditto the 9ms response on s-pen.
-The new Notes app is pretty different!! The pages thing makes sense since it exports to PP. It's interesting how the folders are used instead of categories. The whole look is different though... Mine defaults to black, the save button moved or disappeared, the bottom bar is different... Still adjusting!
-5G sucks in my area with T-Mobile. 12 Mbps. I shut it off so I only get LTE, and I get 71 Mbps. That's in my house though, so it'll probably be better outdoors. I hear 5G doesn't penetrate buildings well.
-The finish and feel of the phone is PHENOMENAL. So premium. Blows every other phone away, easily. Definitely pinky tones in the bronze, but I don't care. I'm rocking a clear case because this phone NEEDS to be shown off. The Spigen Liquid Crystal is great! My wife asked me if I bought a pink phone, haha.
-Camera doesn't show the zoom levels right away, which surprised me. I was trying to figure out how to choose the zoom. Had to choose the close up button first I believe. 50x zoom sucks indoors. Grainy as heck!
-That camera bump is beautiful, don't care what anyone says, haha.
-Fingerprint scanner... What on Earth happened? It's SO MUCH BETTER. I haven't had a single failure yet! I had them CONSTANTLY on my Note10+. Either I programmed my fingers better or this thing is way better.
-Hate the new s-pen location. Awkward for 93% of the population.
-Did they remove the ability to turn on the battery percentage? I'm not seeing it.
NO REGRETS! THIS PHONE RULES!

Its an amazing phone. I am coming from a galaxy S8+ so its a huge step up. The last note I had was the the note 4 and the note 7 for like 3 weeks. It does have the battery percentage option. When you pull down the notification panel, the 3 dots icon next to the settings icon and click status bar, that will let you add the battery percentage. I don't feel any issues with the s pen placement. Now I just need a good screen protector for it, but there isn't too many options yet and I am not a fan of those tempered glass protectors. The battery life on it is good too. FIngerprint scanner is super fast. Much better on the front of the screen than behind like it was on the s8. I wish I had also got the moga controller when I ordered the phone, but it is what it is. I just have to wait till september 15th to get it now.

Notifications-Status Bar will get you battery percentage

Lense fog is no bueno

gsingh22 said:
Its an amazing phone. I am coming from a galaxy S8+ so its a huge step up. The last note I had was the the note 4 and the note 7 for like 3 weeks. It does have the battery percentage option. When you pull down the notification panel, the 3 dots icon next to the settings icon and click status bar, that will let you add the battery percentage. I don't feel any issues with the s pen placement. Now I just need a good screen protector for it, but there isn't too many options yet and I am not a fan of those tempered glass protectors. The battery life on it is good too. FIngerprint scanner is super fast. Much better on the front of the screen than behind like it was on the s8. I wish I had also got the moga controller when I ordered the phone, but it is what it is. I just have to wait till september 15th to get it now.
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Yeah that's for to be a MASSIVE jump in quality! I'm pumped and I'm coming from last year's Note! I think the s-pen bothers me more because I've had it on the right for the last 6 years... So it's muscle memory at this point for me.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Note phones since the 5, and I've never had a scratch! Not sure your usage obviously, but they're really strong. And getting stronger by the year! I like that smooth, naked feel of the glass.
tourbound129 said:
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Thank you!
fatboypup said:
Lense fog is no bueno
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Have you experienced it?? I haven't yet. I read one person complaining about it.

this thread makes me sad knowing that my order won't be with me til monday.
My Clear view case is arriving tomorrow though - maybe ill root that :laugh::laugh::good:

I don't notice an improvement in the finger print scanner, still seams slow and fails often still. I turned off battery optimization for biometrics and that didn't seem to help either.

PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah that's for to be a MASSIVE jump in quality! I'm pumped and I'm coming from last year's Note! I think the s-pen bothers me more because I've had it on the right for the last 6 years... So it's muscle memory at this point for me.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Note phones since the 5, and I've never had a scratch! Not sure your usage obviously, but they're really strong. And getting stronger by the year! I like that smooth, naked feel of the glass.
Thank you!
Have you experienced it?? I haven't yet. I read one person complaining about it.
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Every time I put my handset in a ac vent mounted vehicle holder

PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah that's for to be a MASSIVE jump in quality! I'm pumped and I'm coming from last year's Note! I think the s-pen bothers me more because I've had it on the right for the last 6 years... So it's muscle memory at this point for me.
I haven't had a screen protector on my Note phones since the 5, and I've never had a scratch! Not sure your usage obviously, but they're really strong. And getting stronger by the year! I like that smooth, naked feel of the glass.
Thank you!
Have you experienced it?? I haven't yet. I read one person complaining about it.
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Really sucks

fatboypup said:
Really sucks
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Is it at least clearing up? I don't take pictures while I'm driving with my phone mounted so if it clears up then it's no issue to me.

Love mine. Battery life isn't perfect but pretty much everything else is
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Love mine. Battery life isn't perfect but pretty much everything else is
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Agreed. And even battery life is pretty solid considering the screen!

Not a big jump from the 10 plus for me but:
-Love the zoom on the camera, im pleasantly surprised how well it works.
-The smaller punch hole is definitely noticeable and appreciated.
-I find it very comfortable to hold
-Love the new Spen location
-Really love the GD power button back where it should be lol
-Almost zero bezel and slightly bigger screen is noticeable for me
-camera bump doesnt bother me at all, i though it might...dont even notice it
-the 512gb of storage is great
- snapdragon 865 plus is fast as blazes
- fingerprint scanner MUCH better than 10plus
Not negatives but must mention
- I dont notice the 120hz a ton honestly
-Battery life is close to the 10 plus but maybe just a bit worse but ive only had it not a week yet so may still improve

Maybe I'm in the minority but was the delay on the spen that big of a deal?
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Really sucks
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Ooof thats bad. I dunno folks say it happens all the time but if it happens to me it will be the first time in like 23 devices since 2008

force70 said:
Not a big jump from the 10 plus for me but:
-Love the zoom on the camera, im pleasantly surprised how well it works.
-The smaller punch hole is definitely noticeable and appreciated.
-I find it very comfortable to hold
-Love the new Spen location
-Really love the GD power button back where it should be lol
-Almost zero bezel and slightly bigger screen is noticeable for me
-camera bump doesnt bother me at all, i though it might...dont even notice it
-the 512gb of storage is great
- snapdragon 865 plus is fast as blazes
- fingerprint scanner MUCH better than 10plus
Not negatives but must mention
- I dont notice the 120hz a ton honestly
-Battery life is close to the 10 plus but maybe just a bit worse but ive only had it not a week yet so may still improve
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Really? I went back to 60Hz for a little while to try and compare battery life and almost vomited. Couldn't do it. Try it out if you haven't! A/B comparisons are always the best. Agreed on all other points. VERY pleasantly surprised about the fingerprint scanner improvement. That drove me nuts on the 10+.
Battery being about the same is actually impressive considering the improvements to the screen!
That 5x zoom is AMAZING. Took kids to the zoo yesterday... That was really useful. And they're so CLEAR at that 5x zoom. Absolutely great!
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Maybe I'm in the minority but was the delay on the spen that big of a deal?
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For me it wasn't a big deal, but once I tried the new one... I bet it'd be hard to go back it's so instantaneous now. I love it. I use the s-pen hours a day though, haha.

Totally agree with:
* Fingerprint scanner vastly improved since S10+, Note 10+, S20+
* Build quality and feeling while holding is really superb
* 120hz are significantly noticeable, but you get used to it quickly (you realize how noticeable it is, when you go back to a 60hz device)
I'm also leaning towards using it bare naked, to enjoy the actual premium looks and build quality...
However, after 7 days of careful use, I already see some superficial, light scratches on the screen (under certain light angles) ...
Do you really don't have the slightest, tiniest, scratch on it, @PsiPhiDan?

I don’t know if i can post this video comparison of my S20 Ultra vs Note 20 Ultra rattling sound. I’ve seen people complaining about it on the Note 20 Ultra.
But here it is....
https://youtu.be/a_o52ZzwqEE
Conclusion: ***spoiler***
....it is so much quieter than the S20 Ultra. And I appreciate it. :good:

rodrigofd said:
Totally agree with:
* Fingerprint scanner vastly improved since S10+, Note 10+, S20+
* Build quality and feeling while holding is really superb
* 120hz are significantly noticeable, but you get used to it quickly (you realize how noticeable it is, when you go back to a 60hz device)
I'm also leaning towards using it bare naked, to enjoy the actual premium looks and build quality...
However, after 7 days of careful use, I already see some superficial, light scratches on the screen (under certain light angles) ...
Do you really don't have the slightest, tiniest, scratch on it, @PsiPhiDan?
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I use a clear Spigen case. So nope!

PsiPhiDan said:
I use a clear Spigen case. So nope!
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I meant if you were using a screen protector of any kind, not a case

rodrigofd said:
I meant if you were using a screen protector of any kind, not a case
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Oh I see. Maybe I'm just bad at seeing them? I haven't seen a scratch on my screens on Note devices since the Note5. So maybe I'm just not looking in the right light. Definitely not gonna start now! Haha.