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Reasons to root

My Nexus One will be here tomorrow, and I am wondering what the Pro's and Con's of rooting are.
I've rooted before. I had a G1, but I bricked it, accidentally. Won't stop me from rooting the Nexus, but just give me some reasons why.
I obviously know about cooked roms, etc. I've read about the Desire rom with Sense UI, is it worth it?
Just want your input.

The "search" function of the forums is a great feature. I've seen several threads about this very subject already.

Its definitely worth it! I enjoyed the phone stock, but when i rooted and went with cyanogen 5053. I couldnt happier. I thought the phone was fast already, but with the ROM, its a step above!
And plus some apps from the market are only for rooted phones. SetCPU (underclocking app) is one of them, and has helped me out with battery life. moderate use, i got about 18 hours yesterday with still 35% left on the battery.

MaximReapage said:
The "search" function of the forums is a great feature. I've seen several threads about this very subject already.
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I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
h2opoloplyr_11 said:
Its definitely worth it! I enjoyed the phone stock, but when i rooted and went with cyanogen 5053. I couldnt happier. I thought the phone was fast already, but with the ROM, its a step above!
And plus some apps from the market are only for rooted phones. SetCPU (underclocking app) is one of them, and has helped me out with battery life. moderate use, i got about 18 hours yesterday with still 35% left on the battery.
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Cyanogen always produces great roms. Maybe I'll give his a shot when my phone gets here

stuff said:
I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
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Lucky for you, I've made a great thread!
Check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655734

Its great how we have members that spam other members topics with unuseful replys just to get there post count up.
This is exactly why I don't post alot.
@stuff: I rooted my n1 and flashed cyanogen 5053 and gotta say it's alot faster! If your the kind of guy that gets alot of apps and games like me there is another feature of rooted phones called apps2sd. Apps2sd allows you to set a partition size of your choosing on your sd card for use of storing installed apps and games. That way you are not limited to the internal phone memory. Also as h2opoloplyr_11 stated there are some apps that require your phone to be rooted. Thats all I can think of right now as I am new to android and the n1 but I'm sure there are more reasons and more reasons to come as devs get creative.

stuff said:
I searched and didn't find much specific. Sorry we're not all search pros.
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And yeah, didn't find anything? Oh really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647719&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627362&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643353&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644524&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640356&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635182&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629797&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623855&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620001&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617116&highlight=root
http://tmobileg1fans.com/index.php?topic=262.0
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/benefits-of-root/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operating-System-Software/Benefits-of-Rooting/m-p/101568
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/54804-benefits-rooting-without-installing-custom-roms.html
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-nexus/38224-benefits-rooting-n1.html
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/1078-benefits-rooting-nexus-one.html
http://onandroid.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-rooting-your-android.html
http://tinyurl.com/yg2phpy
You are just lazy and a liar.

Paul22000 said:
And yeah, didn't find anything? Oh really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647719&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627362&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643353&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644524&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640356&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635182&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629797&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623855&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620001&highlight=root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617116&highlight=root
http://tmobileg1fans.com/index.php?topic=262.0
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/benefits-of-root/
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Operating-System-Software/Benefits-of-Rooting/m-p/101568
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/54804-benefits-rooting-without-installing-custom-roms.html
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-nexus/38224-benefits-rooting-n1.html
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-general-discussion/1078-benefits-rooting-nexus-one.html
http://onandroid.blogspot.com/2010/02/benefits-of-rooting-your-android.html
http://tinyurl.com/yg2phpy
You are just lazy and a liar.
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Lol i liked that last one. how did you do it?

Austin021296 said:
Lol i liked that last one. how did you do it?
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www.lmgtfy.com
That's how.

Eclair~ said:
www.lmgtfy.com
That's how.
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This was a prime opportunity for something like this! http://tinyurl.com/djtvaf

Rick7C2 said:
Its great how we have members that spam other members topics with unuseful replys just to get there post count up.
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It has nothing to do with getting our post counts up and everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts. This guy isn't special and somehow entitled to create another redundant thread instead of using the search function like the rest of us do.. Not to mention he said in his original post that he rooted his G1.

uansari1 said:
It has nothing to do with getting our post counts up and everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts. This guy isn't special and somehow entitled to create another redundant thread instead of using the search function like the rest of us do.. Not to mention he said in his original post that he rooted his G1.
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Why the hell isn't there an official stickied topic listing the pros and cons of rooting your device. The first thing people would see before they go asking repeated questions would be that thread.

Good question...the info was stickies in the G1 forum..probably still is.
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uansari1 said:
everything to do with having a clean, uncluttered and efficient forum. No one likes to see the same questions asked every few days. The point of a forum is for it to serve as a repository of information to help and educate future enthusiasts.
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Which is why the op's question should have either been answered or his topic reported. What could have been very simple has turned to a two page topic with only a few post that actually answer the question and it's not because of the op. It's because of all the other post within the topic that are completely of topic including this one.

Rick7C2 said:
Which is why the op's question should have either been answered or his topic reported. What could have been very simple has turned to a two page topic with only a few post that actually answer the question and it's not because of the op. It's because of all the other post within the topic that are completely of topic including this one.
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I'll add to it then...
Every time someone asks THIS question. It's about 10 pages of people giving different great benefits. What difference is 2 pages telling the guy to Lrn2Surch
If someone is too lazy to SEARCH for benefits. Who would ever expect them to accomplish rooting, and the various benefits without further questions that have been seen 100's of times.

It seems like I've seen this topic before.

Which is the best custom ROM/Kernel with Froyo so far?

Hello!
Currently I am using JM9+ Raspdeep OC/UV kernel with Voodoo b4 support and I believe this is the max option for Eclair.
Would you be kind to suggest me the best possible option for step ahead to Froyo? Which ROM, Custom Rom and Kernel are best in work together?
Which LagFix, and Kernel are best for Froyo?

JPO+SO_zImage_opt_ext_root_JPM-JP6_V3_6??maybe

pointless
IMHO, useless thread ... every Rom as its advantages and disadvantages. It's really up to personal taste to choose the best one.
Sorry the comment, I know its a open forum and people have the right to express them selfs yada yada yada... but can't help stop noticing the amount of garbage hanging around this forum, making it difficult to find useful stuff .
And - off record, but on topic anyway - people, learn how to search pleeaaasseee... It's really annoying read threads with 1001 questions about the same subject, which results on 2002 posts if someone cares to help. You are only making it more hard to find yourself the answers!!

I agree with lunasea... Pure personal taste... Some ROMs have the GPS issues partially fixed, others are more stable, others have stuff which we don't use or need. Depends from person to person...
As far as lag fixes are concerned, that too depends on user. Almost all lag-fixes are amazing and the xda-devs have done a brilliant job in all of them, so it is really unfair to say even one of them is bad... they are all good. It depends on perception and the feel of the phone in your hands. Enjoy ur phone!!!

your mum is the best custom rom i mean have a go at DOC'S ROM.

Just IMHO,
If you want barebones + modular get Doc's v7.5 ROM.

lunasea said:
people, learn how to search pleeaaasseee...
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I see you havent been around in many public forums for a long time.

earlz said:
i see you havent been around in many public forums for a long time.
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rofl lmao.. :d

EarlZ said:
I see you havent been around in many public forums for a long time.
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True.. But only for some months. I have to say, came from winmo htc forum and although there were many duplicated posts, I find this forum much worse. Using doc's rom and find myself many times trying to catch up the thread reading countless times the same thing over and over again...
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Wow no need of being rude, guys, thanks a lot for ur answers, I just asked, because nowadays a lot of ROMs are avaible and it's a bit confusing when is up to choice, that was..
Really sorry if I have broke the rules by accident..
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miragebg said:
Wow no need of being rude, guys, thanks a lot for ur answers, I just asked, because nowadays a lot of ROMs are avaible and it's a bit confusing when is up to choice, that was..
Really sorry if I have broke the rules by accident..
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Not trying to be rude, as I stated theres no such thing as best rom. As overwhelming it might seem, there's no other option than try it yourself.
Nevertheless I can give you this hint: most active threads usually means more users, meaning more testing and more stable and support from rom cooker [EDIT... lmao].
So start trying roms that are on 1st and 2nd page of the forum.
happy flash

ROM COCKER??? wow, thats Below the belt.

ragin said:
ROM COCKER??? wow, thats Below the belt.
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LoooooL.... typo sorry. LMFAO

what rom do you prefer according your taste?

Hi guys
what do you think which ROM is the best for you ? Android ROM for HD2?
1.HyperDroid-CM7-v1.0.1[a2sd+][CM7-RC2-2.3.3][KER:HyperKernel-v2.0]
2.HyperDroid-GBX-v8[Hybrid-2.3.*][a2sd+][KER:TYTR6][FAST]
3.HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1.5 [SKINNED&TWEAKED] ONLINE
4.RAFDROID HD 4.0.2|Fastest Full DesHD|DATA2EXT|[Rafpigna 1.8 OC]
5.DL Desire v4.32[Sense Re-Engineering with RAM][Always FASTER][kernel:freak]
6.TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 RC2 v2.6.3 [2.3.3][A2SD][HyperKernel v4]
7.LEO512[LEO1024]CMYLXGOs Stock Desire HD(2)[RUU1.84][RAFPIGNA 1.8OC]
8.NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.4 [Android2.3.3][Kernel: tytung_r7]
9.CleanDROID v2.55-Froyo+CM [Kernel GL_Core_v5b]
10.MIUI stock 1.3.11***[g.lewarne v11]

Most people wont touch this its way to Subjective and has been asked about 100 times already
PLZ CLOSE THIS THREAD ITS A WASTE OF SPACE

nardone24 said:
Most people wont touch this its way to Subjective and has been asked about 100 times already
PLZ CLOSE THIS THREAD ITS A WASTE OF SPACE
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this is some kind of poll

nardone24 said:
Most people wont touch this its way to Subjective and has been asked about 100 times already
PLZ CLOSE THIS THREAD ITS A WASTE OF SPACE
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True and I feel its very disrespectful to the developers because they put their heart and soul in these roms. This far in android development all roms are super smooth and fast. It's just a matter of preference. I tried a lot of roms both gingerbread and sense hd and believe me some of these roms run close to if not better than native android devices. So please close this thread and go find some better to do than to insult the great devs of xda.
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trizzle21 said:
This far in android development all roms are super smooth and fast.
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That is simply not true, there is a lot to be done in terms of Sense Roms. However, many dev's are working hard to change that and it is only a matter of time to see Sense Roms as smooth as Stock/CM/MIUI roms...

This thread is very disrespectful to the devs indeed. +1
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This thread is very disrespectful to the devs indeed. +1

you can better change the titel to ''flame me'' watching to this titel i can see that you get flames.
maybe it's better to close this thread.

Actually I think what thread starter is trying to do is to see which is the most popular ROM. Not which ROM is the best, smooth, fast, battery life etc. So I think it is ok. Most popular ROM does not mean best ROM and best Rom does not mean most popular ROM. Hence it is really about preference. No correct answer.

ill say none of the above
but this really needs closing, there is no need to make this type of thread as mentioned the devs work hard to release their roms and it isnt some sort of wang judging contest to see whos the best

according to what other people says, i want to say something.
i think also that this thread is "wrong" i think.. the title is wrong.. i'd used something that "what rom do you prefer according your taste", i think that some people at first flash can found here the first rom to try, only the first, because is needed to try all of the roms.. because all roms are great. i change rom every 2 days.. when i found a rom that i prefer.. make a donation.. and use it for a few weeks! by the way... congratulations to all dev for their great works!
EDIT: liehuo anticipadet me! and sorry for my english!

Disrespectful or not...... wrong section guy. Pls read the rules for posting.
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daevoq said:
according to what other people says, i want to say something.
i think also that this thread is "wrong" i think.. the title is wrong.. i'd used something that "what rom do you prefer according your taste", i think that some people at first flash can found here the first rom to try, only the first, because is needed to try all of the roms.. because all roms are great. i change rom every 2 days.. when i found a rom that i prefer.. make a donation.. and use it for a few weeks! by the way... congratulations to all dev for their great works!
EDIT: liehuo anticipadet me! and sorry for my english!
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i agreed with u i changed the little

Which is the best custom rom for samsung galaxy s2

Can anybody tell me which is the current best rom for the samsung galaxy s2???
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speed4life said:
Can anybody tell me which is the current best rom for the samsung galaxy s2???
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I'm on Lightning Rom 6.1. Battery usage depends on which kernel you use. My best is Jeffrey Speefrey 3.0.0 Rv

I dont mean to be rude, but these wrong posts in the wrong area is getting ridiculous. Please READ! Not only are you asking something that has been asked several times in the last few days but also putting it in the dev section. Again, not just you, but SOOO many others as well! Hacre rubs me the wrong way sometimes but I understand where he is coming on certain things.
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speed4life said:
Can anybody tell me which is the current best rom for the samsung galaxy s2???
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I have changed so many custom roms and I found that THIS rom is absolutely perfect. It is super smooth, no lag, no fancy -bad looking- theme, and battery is outstanding!! At least 30% more battery than any other custom rom, and 50% more than stock roms!
XK's - Stability/Speed/Superb Battery Rom

When you ask what kind of shoes are the best,
you get the same answer......
Try and fit the best!!
;-)

Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums and Read THIS
Moving to General

Try them all yourself, seriously..

jastonas said:
I have changed so many custom roms and I found that THIS rom is absolutely perfect. It is super smooth, no lag, no fancy -bad looking- theme, and battery is outstanding!! At least 30% more battery than any other custom rom, and 50% more than stock roms!
XK's - Stability/Speed/Superb Battery Rom
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ROFL.. Best ROM Ever...

Sorry, but this is how it works here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881

m.kochan10 said:
Sorry, but this is how it works here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
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I don't support XDA on that but yes, creating a lots of threads on the same topic does clutter the forum. Still, plenty of people, like me, have no time to check all those ROMs, nor interest, and it's common that someone wanna have a view on a particular ROM or the one which majority of people think is the best, that'd called 'feedback'! There should be a sticky topic listing all the Custom ROMs and voting should be listed there so that one can see and judge a ROM by the majority of voting.

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The best ROM is the one that works best for you. Try a few and decide for yourself.

Fast and stable rom?

HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.

dohcvtec said:
Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm

Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
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EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).

Marvlesz said:
EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
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the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom

Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Then stick to windows mobile.

Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.

Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423

Ever-Never said:
you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
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Spamming for 10 posts? Please do it somewhere else.

Nigeldg said:
Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA

Kameirus said:
see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
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I do get it. But it doesnt mean it doesnt frustrate me to see the responses in these threads just as it frustrates those who are rattled by the thread even existing who feel the need to jump on and respond.
If it bugs you... you can leave it alone and move on OR you can let the OP know your frustration by refusing to answer the question and telling them to get off XDA. But surely its easier to ignore it?
It honest feels that the forum has become quite arrogant at times especially where "newbs" are concerned. And it can feel at times slightly Elitist (those that Can vs those who need help) with a disregard to anyone who doesnt know where to begin.
One post i read earlier told a FM to "get off the android forum and dont come back" for asking a similar question... How is this helping and how is it got to the point where there are many 'thanks' thumbsup to this sort of response.
I doubt that OP would be back in a hurry but i guess if it stops them asking 'stupid' questions....Theres a pattern forming where some members here who have flashed successfully a few times then become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. Why not just 'Not Respond' at all??
Its like pack mentality sometimes and thankfully it is a minority of members who are rattled and on the whole XDA is immensely helpful to newcomers who will learn the hard way to never ask "that" question :banghead:
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We are members of this community, thus we have to do our best to make it better. We do this by telling people who post such threads about how wrong it is and the correct way of finding "the" rom. But it got out of hand, you can check that for yourself. Every other week, there is a thread asking the exact same thing, i.e "best rom, fastest, stable". Whereas it should be common sense that there is no best in subjective things as Nigel summed it.
Now the problem is that many people think xda is a support site. Here is a quote from a senior member that I couldn't agree more with:
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He is simply one of these XDA n00bs who comes here with the false impression that XDA is tech support for their manufacturers device.
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While it is true that you can find help on xda, that doesn't mean it is given on a silver platter. If you can't bother to help yourself, we can't bother to help you. Furthermore, finding a question that a 2-click search could've provided a more-than-satisfactory answer or finding a post that is almost the same as a two-rows-below post is rather very irritating.
... become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. ...
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That's impossible, if you're asking "what's the best rom", there is no way you're looking for a point in the right direction. Because basically there is no right direction. Some people even try to justify their stupid posts with even more stupid posts.
The HD2 has been out for about 4 years now. NO matter what your problem is, it has a 99% probability it has been asked AND answered before MULTIPLE times. Now if people can't bother to follow the very first rule of the forum rules, they don't deserve to be helped.
When they first registered on xda, they agreed to abide by the terms, rules and conditions. Now if you agree to abide by something and then break that thing, you take full responsibility and deserve everything you get for that breaking.

Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum
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A common misconception, this is a development forum (hence XDA developers ). Other than this I don't really have anything to add to Marvlesz's post tbh. You have to understand that when I posted that there had been literally three similar threads in a row. When you're posting a thread search results for the same or similar title even come up, so there wasn't any excuse for this thread to have been created. There's a subtle line between not knowing and not trying, and this is the latter.

It's problem to me too... I have 1.5 gb roms on my SD and no one fully work for me =(

Ok so i am aware that my earlier post was ott on my part and can only apologize. Must have been posting through some red mist I admit i jumped in without thinking and was unduely judgemental. Sorry bout that Everyone here esp devs are doing such amazing work for our gadgets to perform at their peaks and i am immensely appreciative of that. I agree with the above that this is first a "Development" forum and can be misconceived by some (myself included ) as somewhere where the answers are uniform and one in the same. However i see this is not the case and opinions to questions such as "whats the best, fastest most stable" etc, are so diverse and if everyone were to give an opinion then i guess these threads would also just get messy and lengthy with NO satifactory conclusion.
Sorry Guys...Really Didnt mean to offend. However i can see how my wording may have done so :banghead:
My tail is well and truly behind my legs as i type this
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Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
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it hapen to everyone, even me, you just make a wrong installation! Learn, serach and test before post. No other way to know which the best are.
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Kameirus said:
stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
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