Guys, I read my local paper on my bus journey home each day, it's usually over 40 pages and can be 30-110Mb in size (depending on adverts and photos)
I've tried all the free readers and the only one that works without crashing is the free office app that came with the Tab, however this doesn't have a way to jump a few pages, for example, if I'm on page 20 and nearing home I want to jump to the back page to read the sports pages before I get off, with the office app I have to swipe right to the end
Is there anything out there that can handle the paper and also be able to jump around pages (and preferably, one that is nice to look at and maybe even animates turning pages!)
if anyone has any paid PDF viewers, can you try the paper and let me know how it handles it? (todays happens to be the smallest so far at 21Mb though I'll be putting tomorrows there in 16 hours so it depends when you read this as to which you download)
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
Thanks
EzPDF reader is my favorite, does everything you need and is updated frequently by the developer.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/ezpdf-reader/udk.android.reader
Unfortunately there is no PDF annotation tool available for Android yet...
I've been using RepliGo Reader to handle some of my larger PDFs and find it satisfactory. It has a nice Reading View, supports Bookmarks, lets you go to any page you want, and select text for copying to another app. If the PDF has been set up properly, selecting the Bookmarks option shows a Table of Contents for fast moving around larger documents. It even handles the Adobe DRM files, which is one of the main reasons I use it. So far it has opened everything I have thrown at it, which is not the case with some of the other PDF readers I have tried. There is no fancy page animation, just a solid and usable app.
daniel.weck said:
EzPDF reader is my favorite, does everything you need and is updated frequently by the developer.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/ezpdf-reader/udk.android.reader
Unfortunately there is no PDF annotation tool available for Android yet...
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I've tried that, it doesn't like large PDF's
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I've been using RepliGo Reader to handle some of my larger PDFs and find it satisfactory. It has a nice Reading View, supports Bookmarks, lets you go to any page you want, and select text for copying to another app. If the PDF has been set up properly, selecting the Bookmarks option shows a Table of Contents for fast moving around larger documents. It even handles the Adobe DRM files, which is one of the main reasons I use it. So far it has opened everything I have thrown at it, which is not the case with some of the other PDF readers I have tried. There is no fancy page animation, just a solid and usable app.
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I will give that a go, thanks
I'm currently reading a graphically-rich 12MB book with 740 pages, and RepliGo Reader really lacks the zoom + navigation features that make the reading experience acceptable. On top of that, large books take *ages* to load, the font kerning is often wrong (weird character spacing), and the page refresh logic is really distracting (transition from blurry bitmap to fine text in scalable vector graphics mode).
That's why I recommended the cheaper, but more full-featured ezPDF Reader.
I hope you eventually find what you need
Cheers, Dan
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I'm currently reading a graphically-rich 12MB book with 740 pages, and RepliGo Reader really lacks the zoom + navigation features that make the reading experience acceptable. On top of that, large books take *ages* to load, the font kerning is often wrong (weird character spacing), and the page refresh logic is really distracting (transition from blurry bitmap to fine text in scalable vector graphics mode).
That's why I recommended the cheaper, but more full-featured ezPDF Reader.
I hope you eventually find what you need
Cheers, Dan
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can you try it with the newspaper I've linked to?
I've just uploaded todays which is 40 pages and 65Mb (av 1.6Mb per page) which is about normal each day and will be more challenging than a book that's on average 0.016Mb per page
the pages in the 20's are most difficult as they have adverts and classifieds in them
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
ezPDF is one of the best I've used so far
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tried them all, repligo is the fastest page render by far.
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ezPDF is one of the best I've used so far
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tried them all, repligo is the fastest page render by far.
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how do they cope with the paper I've linked to above?
that's all I'll be using it for
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
mmace said:
Guys, I read my local paper on my bus journey home each day, it's usually over 40 pages and can be 30-110Mb in size (depending on adverts and photos)
I've tried all the free readers and the only one that works without crashing is the free office app that came with the Tab, however this doesn't have a way to jump a few pages, for example, if I'm on page 20 and nearing home I want to jump to the back page to read the sports pages before I get off, with the office app I have to swipe right to the end
Is there anything out there that can handle the paper and also be able to jump around pages (and preferably, one that is nice to look at and maybe even animates turning pages!)
if anyone has any paid PDF viewers, can you try the paper and let me know how it handles it? (todays happens to be the smallest so far at 21Mb though I'll be putting tomorrows there in 16 hours so it depends when you read this as to which you download)
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
Thanks
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Have you tried the Adobe Android app?
Might also want to look into turning it into an epub. Download Calibre for your PC/Mac, let it do the conversion, and can even be setup to automatically pull down news sources and convert them to the format of your choice, and sync them to your device of choice.
Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.
For epub readers, I'm really fond of Aldiko. And Perfect Viewer is also a nice app for CBZ, PDF, etc (though the UI could use a bit of work).
mmace said:
how do they cope with the paper I've linked to above?
that's all I'll be using it for
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
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I downloaded the paper and tried it with the free Adobe Reader app from the Market and it works fine. All graphics and text are there. If you use the "Continuous Scroll" you can quickly scroll through a birdseye view of the pages until you find the one you want to view. The "Fit to Screen" view does what it says and a double-tap on an article or text area will zoom it to an easily readable size. It also supports pinch to zoom if you need a different size. Long-pressing the screen brings up a scrollbar across the bottom and some other options.
RepliGo Reader also renders all but the very first page for some reason, but it is a paid app, and for a newspaper, the Adobe Reader does just as nice a job for free.
I tried to take screenshots of the various menu options and choices, but neither app will let me create one. No such thing as a long-press on the back button because they immediately go back until they exit.
Hope this info helps.
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Have you tried the Adobe Android app?
Might also want to look into turning it into an epub. Download Calibre for your PC/Mac, let it do the conversion, and can even be setup to automatically pull down news sources and convert them to the format of your choice, and sync them to your device of choice.
Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.
For epub readers, I'm really fond of Aldiko. And Perfect Viewer is also a nice app for CBZ, PDF, etc (though the UI could use a bit of work).
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Hi, I've tried the official Adobe Reader and it never even renders the 1st page, it just crashes the Tab after a minute or 2 of trying
I will look into the ebook thing, thanks
Maris_ said:
I downloaded the paper and tried it with the free Adobe Reader app from the Market and it works fine. All graphics and text are there. If you use the "Continuous Scroll" you can quickly scroll through a birdseye view of the pages until you find the one you want to view. The "Fit to Screen" view does what it says and a double-tap on an article or text area will zoom it to an easily readable size. It also supports pinch to zoom if you need a different size. Long-pressing the screen brings up a scrollbar across the bottom and some other options.
RepliGo Reader also renders all but the very first page for some reason, but it is a paid app, and for a newspaper, the Adobe Reader does just as nice a job for free.
I tried to take screenshots of the various menu options and choices, but neither app will let me create one. No such thing as a long-press on the back button because they immediately go back until they exit.
Hope this info helps.
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I've tried the official one and it had trouble loading any pages at all and crashed each time
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Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.
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Or not. I have a few PDF books i bought from Manning, and Calibre fails flat on face on those files. Yes, it does convert them - but all pictures are destroyed during the conversion and because of the signature at bottom of every page, it makes the final epub file even worse.
Only if there would be a reader which could read both epub and pdf formats in one app.
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Or not. I have a few PDF books i bought from Manning, and Calibre fails flat on face on those files. Yes, it does convert them - but all pictures are destroyed during the conversion and because of the signature at bottom of every page, it makes the final epub file even worse.
Only if there would be a reader which could read both epub and pdf formats in one app.
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I just tried it to convert today's 120Mb paper to an 80Mb ePub, just uploading it now to test
Trying to import todays paper into Aldiko and it's said "Importing Books..." for over 20 minutes now, it;s only an 80Mb book, I think this software has failed at the first hurdle
Any other "decent" ePub readers out there?
mmace said:
Hi, I've tried the official Adobe Reader and it never even renders the 1st page, it just crashes the Tab after a minute or 2 of trying
I will look into the ebook thing, thanks
I've tried the official one and it had trouble loading any pages at all and crashed each time
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Sorry these apps didn't work for you. I didn't have any crashes using the link you provided with either app on my Tab (T-Mo version, not rooted). I'm out of ideas at this point. I even tried it on my Nexus One and had no problems. Sorry.
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Sorry these apps didn't work for you. I didn't have any crashes using the link you provided with either app on my Tab (T-Mo version, not rooted). I'm out of ideas at this point. I even tried it on my Nexus One and had no problems. Sorry.
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maybe it's because yesterdays paper was so small?
can you try again now?
I just uploaded today's which is 120Mb
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
Hope it's not my Tab
I've also done an ePub, www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.epub which is 80Mb
Converting a PDF with rich column layout (like newspapers or magazines) into an EPUB is a terrible idea. EPUB is designed for reflowable text, not for pixel-perfect ("fixed layout") documents.
I noticed that ezPDF provides "intelligent" navigation features, to automatically move from one column to the next, in order to mimic the human reading flow (eye movement). Unfortunately some PDFs (including the 60MB example kindly provided in this thread for testing) are badly formatted and do not indicate the correct reading flow.
By the way, this unfortunate mediocre PDF encoding is the main cause for awful EPUB conversions. The misuse of typesetting tools in the publishing industry results in pretty poor content quality, structurally-speaking (because the emphasis is on visual appearance, not raw content organization).
So, the best course of action is to continue testing PDF readers (in depth, not just superficially => use previous/next navigation features, double-tap zoom with column scroll-locking, pinch/stretch zoom for fine margin adjustments, placemarks / bookmarks, etc. etc.).
Some PDF reading apps are better maintained than others on the Market. There may be opportunities to report bugs or request features.
Cheers, Dan
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I just uploaded today's which is 120Mb
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
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LOL, even my modern laptop struggles to browse this PDF smoothly
I don't expect a mobile device to offer a smooth reading experience
mmace said:
I've also done an ePub, www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.epub which is 80Mb
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Don't bother. EPUB conversion is not satisfactory for this kind of PDF content (as I explained in the post above).
Cheers, Dan
daniel.weck said:
Converting a PDF with rich column layout (like newspapers or magazines) into an EPUB is a terrible idea. EPUB is designed for reflowable text, not for pixel-perfect ("fixed layout") documents.
I noticed that ezPDF provides "intelligent" navigation features, to automatically move from one column to the next, in order to mimic the human reading flow (eye movement). Unfortunately some PDFs (including the 60MB example kindly provided in this thread for testing) are badly formatted and do not indicate the correct reading flow.
By the way, this unfortunate mediocre PDF encoding is the main cause for awful EPUB conversions. The misuse of typesetting tools in the publishing industry results in pretty poor content quality, structurally-speaking (because the emphasis is on visual appearance, not raw content organization).
So, the best course of action is to continue testing PDF readers (in depth, not just superficially => use previous/next navigation features, double-tap zoom with column scroll-locking, pinch/stretch zoom for fine margin adjustments, placemarks / bookmarks, etc. etc.).
Some PDF reading apps are better maintained than others on the Market. There may be opportunities to report bugs or request features.
Cheers, Dan
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the 60Mb one was "created" by myself, each page sent to the printers is around 4Mb, I then put them all together in 1 file and then "print" to a PDF file at 72dpi and A6 page size to reduce the file size
If you download the 120Mb one today, that one is the original files just merged into 1 PDF
I cannot test PDF readers in depth because most don't even open large PDF's like todays
I am looking for a PDF viewer that will display Title information scrapped out of the metadata rather than the filename. The filenames of the files I am interested in viewing are the document number (i.e. 52343234245.pdf) and the Title is much more user friendly (i.e. LRU User Guide).
When I import PDFs into iBooks on the iPad, this information in automatically scrapped out. Any apps with similar functionality on Android?
Even a desktop utility that does the renaming would be better than nothing.
Lumiread that comes with the A500 shows the metadata, and it also allows you to fetch the metadata from the Internet, too. On 3.0.1 Lumiread is a tad slow, though, but I hear it's gotten some performance improvements in 3.1.
I've been looking for a good pdf viewer with two simple features; remember the page when closing a book and the ability to create bookmarks. Never thought of Lumiread until you mentioned it
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ezPDF is another one that's absolutely great, offers bookmarks, allows you to highlight selections, add your own notes etc. to PDF files, and it's really fast. It doesn't sport a bookshelf like the Lumiread though, nor does it show metadata.
EDIT: Just asked them if they have any plans to add similar support for metadata and a virtual "bookshelf" to ezPDF, I'll try to remember to mention here when I get a reply.
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Just asked them if they have any plans to add similar support for metadata and a virtual "bookshelf" to ezPDF, I'll try to remember to mention here when I get a reply.
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Thanks, I was going to e-mail them, but the firewall blocks their site for being high risk/malicious.
I'm not getting any reply from ezPDF folks, absolutely none. But after having tried a few other ebook readers Mantano Reader and Aldiko Book Reader both seem pretty good and both also support metadata. So far I lean towards Mantano myself, but I can't really find any specific issues with Aldiko either, just that the bookshelf view is slow to scroll.
Apart from showing metadata, which software is the fastest to flip page?
I found ezReader quite slow
When I flip page using Ipad 2, it really fast & smooth
I need such software for my Iconia as well
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I'm looking towards purchasing the N2E, and i'm competent enough to root.
I've noticed a key feature missing from the N2E is the ability to zoom in onto a page - good for text books, manga, comics and actual ebooks in general.
Are there apps that have this ability to zoom into pages and scroll up and down along the page to view yet? (like the kindle has) Just checking.
ACV (Android comic viewer) and repligo (for PDF) both have zoom feature for single touch screens, which work quite fine for us.
Mavvy666 said:
I'm looking towards purchasing the N2E, and i'm competent enough to root.
I've noticed a key feature missing from the N2E is the ability to zoom in onto a page - good for text books, manga, comics and actual ebooks in general.
Are there apps that have this ability to zoom into pages and scroll up and down along the page to view yet? (like the kindle has) Just checking.
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You can use Smart Office 2,Kingsoft Office,EZpdf Viewer and other apps
Well i know the Kno is on here and you can do it on that, but is there any other apps? The kno crashes which sucks. Im looking for an eBook reader/pdf reader that you can actually write on the pages, mainly for SAT tests that are in pdf format, itd be great to be able to write on them and then circle the correct answer. and then have a answer key on the split screen to see if its right. Maybe someone will have any ideas?
x2x3lit3x2x said:
Well i know the Kno is on here and you can do it on that, but is there any other apps? The kno crashes which sucks. Im looking for an eBook reader/pdf reader that you can actually write on the pages, mainly for SAT tests that are in pdf format, itd be great to be able to write on them and then circle the correct answer. and then have a answer key on the split screen to see if its right. Maybe someone will have any ideas?
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Try "iAnnotate PDF" from the Play Store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387624
EZ PDF also works for annotations but unfortunately split screen only works with the proprietary Samsung apps.
Scotlac said:
EZ PDF also works for annotations but unfortunately split screen only works with the proprietary Samsung apps.
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I also recommend EZ PDF, it's really good for annotating PDFs and is generally quite fast too. It's even almost usable for drawing on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 with a finger or a capacitive stylus but I'm anxious to see how it works with the Note.
Repligo works great
Actually the latest version of Adobe Reader for Android works great to annotate.
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EZpdf andrepligo seems to be top contenders and I really like repligo... Very versatile..
I have not tried the adobe reader.
x2x3lit3x2x said:
Well i know the Kno is on here and you can do it on that, but is there any other apps? The kno crashes which sucks. Im looking for an eBook reader/pdf reader that you can actually write on the pages, mainly for SAT tests that are in pdf format, itd be great to be able to write on them and then circle the correct answer. and then have a answer key on the split screen to see if its right. Maybe someone will have any ideas?
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S note has option Too import pdfs. However mine crashes every time I try it...
dunderklump said:
S note has option Too import pdfs. However mine crashes every time I try it...
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Mine's doing ok with importing & exporting PDF's, but it's a hassle to go through this process every time. Any chance there's a way to make Android recognize S Note as a possible default program for opening PDFs? Currently, Android only gives me the options of Kno and Polaroid Office.
mitchellvii said:
Actually the latest version of Adobe Reader for Android works great to annotate.
Sent from my awesome Note 10.1
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I haven't used Adobe Reader myself, but those who have reports it doesn't have palm rejection, whereas ezPDF does. Since you use it maybe you can confirm or reject the report about Reader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844336
As stated, what is the font that you like most for reading books?
Does your reader app allow (and work correctly) with system fonts (i.e. /system/fonts/Roboto.ttf) or fonts on /sdcard?
Do you even use the stock B&N reader at all and do you find the font choice limiting?
My preference has been Caecilia for a long time.
I find Georgia too light and flourishy.
Yes, I have used Caecilia exclusively on CoolReader for years. Customization of CoolReader was a nightmare but, eventually, I achieved results as good as the stock B&N reader. CoolReader provides 13 fonts and I haven't seen the need to add fonts, like Roboto, to /system/fonts/.
I would never consider using the stock B&N reader because the AORD dictionaries integration with CoolReader is invaluable. I use AORD dozens of times whenever I read. Wiktionary's foreign words, Collaborative Dictionaries quotations, and Wikipedia are also wonderful. It's a shame I can no longer update the AORD dictionaries because we're stuck forever on Android 2.1.
The Glow3 is a reasonable, but not great replacement for the NST.
They both have physical buttons.
The bezel on the G3 is larger than the NST, a step backwards.
The G3 has 4.4.2 vs. NST's 2.1
Still, even for an ereader, KitKat (4.4) is getting pretty old.
I'm just disliked the bezel on both the NST and G3 as they cast shadows and are great for collecting dust.
They both use the same zForce IR touch sensor which is insensitive to screen marks but very sensitive to dust on the bezel edges.
The NST zForce driver for the NST made internal state available so that you could use my Touch.apk to visualize where the stubborn dust/misalignment problem was.
The G3 zForce driver doesn't have that enabled.
Dictionaries can be handy, but selecting text with your finger can be pretty annoying, especially if there are footnote links too.
Renate NST said:
I'm just disliked the bezel on both the NST and G3 as they cast shadows and are great for collecting dust...
Dictionaries can be handy, but selecting text with your finger can be pretty annoying, especially if there are footnote links too.
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For years, I've eaten mixed nuts as I read without the least problem with the bezel edges of my NST.
Selecting text improves with years of practice, and I select first-up correctly about 80% of the time.
Incidentally, when I read books with foreign language sentences, as I currently am, I copy the text and paste into the desktop version of Google Translate within Opera Mobile. It is reliable and takes about 10 seconds all up. Not bad at all.
Mmm, well that's one point of view. Another point of view is that the reader is there for the words and that the publisher's idea of presentation is immaterial, especially when the publisher is not the author.
I usually go along with the formatting (but not the font) that the publisher has chosen unless it is so intrusive that I need to strip the CSS from the Epub.
Have you found a better font in the last 4 years? I was wondering the same thing. It would also be a pretty cool feature for a reader to incorporate partial word highlight for speed-reading.
I'm still using Caecilia. I can't say that I think about font at all.
You'd need a fairly low-level mod to a reader to make it selectively bold parts of words.
Would that be done at the word level or the sentence level?
I don't speed read. I usually slow read with lapses as my mind goes off into tangents