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My opinion of Galaxy Note

I've owned the Note for about one and a half day now, and thought I'd share my opinions which can be useful for those looking to get this phone. Feel free to ask me any questions, and if you want me to try some game(paid or free) I'll give it a shot as long as the game is worth it. I love buying games, bought like 5 new ones today .
I gotta say, I knew this was gonna be big but it turned out to be bigger than I ever imagined. It really cannot be used with a single hand without the risk of dropping it, but it feels great using it with two hands. I love it's big screen and it has a good amount of real estate for all kinds of app needs. It definitely fits comfortably in my pocket. The screen quality is great, the pixel density is enough for me to not notice any pixels and the color reproduction is great.
I was kind of disappointing with the build quality of Galaxy S, but this feels quite better. The metal casing on the edges and the rubbery back case feels really good and solid in hands, the weight is about right as well.
The S-Pen is a nice addition and it's quite accurate. Even the handwriting recognition is actually useful, it's able to recognize my handwriting fairly accurately with enough speed to be a suitable alternative for typing in. The quick memo and gestures make for a nice addition, I suck at drawing but my sister could draw a decent scenery out of it. So it's a fun addition. Other S Choice apps use the pen quite nicely and the ability to draw on screenshots and pictures is a very fun and useful addition.
I gotta say, it's not all lagless. But the lag isn't that annoying, most of the time it's during transitions. Browser is smooth on most of the websites but does redraw quite frequently on big websites, although it redraws quick. I feel that this is due to not taking advantage of the hardware properly and mostly due to software, the case which is with most Samsung's phones until they release fixes for it so I'm not too worried about that.
The hardware is amazing, it sports one of the(if not the) fastest SoC in Android world and it shows when gaming. Not only did any game I threw at it ran fine, even Tegra HD games running through Chainfire 3D looked and ran buttery smooth. Games like Shadowgun, Dungeon Defenders, Galaxy On Fire 2 THD, Samurai 2 THD had no problems.
The camera seems quite great, it is more or less like the SGS2, the video recording is quite good as well. For anyone who's curious, 1080p at superfine records at 18mbps. GPS seems good as well although I haven't tried it while driving, it did fix awfully fast(I had a fix before Maps completed the transition and was opened).
I'll keep updating this thread with new findings/experiences. I still have to try GPS properly, office use, continuous high end gaming, observe battery life, and other stuff I'm missing.
UPDATE :
Game's MSAA with Chainfire 3D comparison
Okay, you can find pictures of Shadowgun and Samurai II : Vengeance(Both THD) in my flickr set here. As the filename suggests, auto is set to automatic MSAA, 4x is 4xMSAA and 16x is 16xMSAA. I can't really see noticible improvement in both the games as the PPI is quite a lot, but I guess on tablets it can make a good difference. While 4xMSAA was not being taxing, 16xMSAA made Shadowgun and Samurai II lag quite a lot. Let me know if you guys want any more game's comparisons.
My take on Note's Audio
I tested audio with 320kbps MP3s and a pair of decent ~80$ earbuds, I'm no audiophile but I love an occasional song or so. I'd say that Note can be a decent daily MP3 player, but it's nothing out of the ordinary, the Galaxy S sounds a bit better in my opinion with same MP3 and earbuds but it's nothing earth shattering. All in all, it's a fairly nice package and unless you're very serious about top notch audio it shouldn't cause any problems.
Some S-Note demos
Thought these can be beneficial for those who are looking to buy Note for it's notemaking capabilities. Sorry for my absolutely crappy handwriting, plus I'm not very used to writing on the note.
You can view it here

I'm big on games to, how does the extra resolution look compared to the older galaxy?

Quite great, it feels much better. Plus Note is able to handle some very high end games that don't work properly on Galaxy S. Presuming the games scale well, I had some that didn't and that kinda sucked.

Could you download Zynga Poker from the market & trill me off all buttons look normal....screen scaling. I used to own a Dell Streak & some apps didn't work will with the big screen.

I'm quite interested in this device, however there are 2 major points for me, which will make me pass on this one.
1. How is that useful as a real note taking. I know I can draw stuff with it but let's say I've got to copy a half of A4 page containing text and some schematics.
Now I know it would be impossible to fit it on one s-memo page, so is there anything to create additional page and link/organize it? I don't want to look for the necessary contents longer than necessary.
2. Is it enough to serve as a MP3 player despite having infamous Yamaha DAC? I'm not audiophile and I don't want to be one, however I like to listen to music from time to time.

ronj1986 said:
Could you download Zynga Poker from the market & trill me off all buttons look normal....screen scaling. I used to own a Dell Streak & some apps didn't work will with the big screen.
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Works quite well.

Niuseek said:
I'm quite interested in this device, however there are 2 major points for me, which will make me pass on this one.
1. How is that useful as a real note taking. I know I can draw stuff with it but let's say I've got to copy a half of A4 page containing text and some schematics.
Now I know it would be impossible to fit it on one s-memo page, so is there anything to create additional page and link/organize it? I don't want to look for the necessary contents longer than necessary.
2. Is it enough to serve as a MP3 player despite having infamous Yamaha DAC? I'm not audiophile and I don't want to be one, however I like to listen to music from time to time.
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1. It takes some getting used to, there is a bit of delay when the software actually recognizes your stroke which can be a bit annoying plus it takes a bit of practice to avoid hitting the back button. But it's accurate enough to serve as a real notepad. You can create additional pages from within the memo and it groups them together as a pile. Although they are not organizable from what I could tell. Evernote comes free with this(I think) and it may have more advanced note making capabilities.
2. From what I could tell, it's sound quality is good enough even in the loudspeaker. I'm no audiophile and I can't be one but it sounded decent enough for everyday usage.

The sound quality with the earbuds,how do you think is it?there is a thread here on this forum which doesnt seem to like it.Thats the only thing which is stoping me from getting it.
I should mention that my Galaxy tab 10.1 has a great sound quality so I dont know why shouldnt this as well.

hagba said:
The sound quality with the earbuds,how do you think is it?there is a thread here on this forum which doesnt seem to like it.Thats the only thing which is stoping me from getting it.
I should mention that my Galaxy tab 10.1 has a great sound quality so I dont know why shouldnt this as well.
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Honestly I haven't tried the sound via earbuds yet, I'll try it tomorrow and get back to you guys.

Dragooon123 said:
2. From what I could tell, it's sound quality is good enough even in the loudspeaker. I'm no audiophile and I can't be one but it sounded decent enough for everyday usage.
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Sorry, I've forgot to mention that I'm interested in headphones audio quality (If you've got any). I'm looking for anything that you wouldn't expect from an average phone.

Niuseek said:
Sorry, I've forgot to mention that I'm interested in headphones audio quality (If you've got any). I'm looking for anything that you wouldn't expect from an average phone.
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I''ll let you know soon.

Are you rooted? does 4xMSAA or 16xMSAA work on Chainfire 3d?

Yes I'm rooted and it seems to work.

Would u be so kind to post screenshots of gaming with normal, 4xMSAA, and 16xMSAA.. Like so http://www.jayceooi.com/tag/opengl/

Okay, I'll try to do that tomorrow.

I would like to ask u few questions if u dont mind : p and im sorry if some of them been asked before but im just a skeptic guy haha
1// Hows the Sound of the phone? is it Loud? Clear? Crispy/No Noise? and how bout using the headphones? u could say im an audiophile and music is a big part of my life so it matters alot to me
2// Hows The Camera? is it Better than S2 ? or at least like S2? hows the video too? The Voice Recorder? and does that lag happen alot? did it bother u for any moment? Oh and Hows the Wifi signal/ Workin on it?
Thanks!

and what about battery life?, is it true what engadget writes of 9 hours playing video??????? (http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/samsung-galaxy-note-review/)

Dragooon123 said:
I've owned the Note for about one and a half day now, and thought I'd share my opinions which can be useful for those looking to get this phone. Feel free to ask me any questions, and if you want me to try some game(paid or free) I'll give it a shot as long as the game is worth it. I love buying games, bought like 5 new ones today .
I gotta say, I knew this was gonna be big but it turned out to be bigger than I ever imagined. It really cannot be used with a single hand without the risk of dropping it, but it feels great using it with two hands. I love it's big screen and it has a good amount of real estate for all kinds of app needs. It definitely fits comfortably in my pocket. The screen quality is great, the pixel density is enough for me to not notice any pixels and the color reproduction is great.
I was kind of disappointing with the build quality of Galaxy S, but this feels quite better. The metal casing on the edges and the rubbery back case feels really good and solid in hands, the weight is about right as well.
The S-Pen is a nice addition and it's quite accurate. Even the handwriting recognition is actually useful, it's able to recognize my handwriting fairly accurately with enough speed to be a suitable alternative for typing in. The quick memo and gestures make for a nice addition, I suck at drawing but my sister could draw a decent scenery out of it. So it's a fun addition. Other S Choice apps use the pen quite nicely and the ability to draw on screenshots and pictures is a very fun and useful addition.
I gotta say, it's not all lagless. But the lag isn't that annoying, most of the time it's during transitions. Browser is smooth on most of the websites but does redraw quite frequently on big websites, although it redraws quick. I feel that this is due to not taking advantage of the hardware properly and mostly due to software, the case which is with most Samsung's phones until they release fixes for it so I'm not too worried about that.
The hardware is amazing, it sports one of the(if not the) fastest SoC in Android world and it shows when gaming. Not only did any game I threw at it ran fine, even Tegra HD games running through Chainfire 3D looked and ran buttery smooth. Games like Shadowgun, Dungeon Defenders, Galaxy On Fire 2 THD, Samurai 2 THD had no problems.
The camera seems quite great, it is more or less like the SGS2, the video recording is quite good as well. For anyone who's curious, 1080p at superfine records at 18mbps. GPS seems good as well although I haven't tried it while driving, it did fix awfully fast(I had a fix before Maps completed the transition and was opened).
I'll keep updating this thread with new findings/experiences. I still have to try GPS properly, office use, continuous high end gaming, observe battery life, and other stuff I'm missing.
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could you please tell me how and where you got the games you mentioned in your post. According to android market they are not compatible with galaxy note. I happened to be a proud owner of galaxy note as well. I want this games. Thanks in advance.

anney said:
could you please tell me how and where you got the games you mentioned in your post. According to android market they are not compatible with galaxy note. I happened to be a proud owner of galaxy note as well. I want this games. Thanks in advance.
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You have to root your phone first, then install chainfire 3d on your phone. If you need more information look it up on google.
Disclaimer! Rooting your phone will void your warranty.

Note got the same sound hardware like a SGSII.
So the sound is perfect....but all Samsungs got bad headphones! !!!! U need to change it for sure...
I got senheiser cx55 and it gives me perfect sound.
Best regards.

Some Observations

Positive:
- Fast, fluid, powerful.
- Multitasking is fantastic because of the additional RAM.
- The browser is as close to desktop performance as I've seen in an Android device
.- It's a new generation of tablet for Samsung, more like a giant SGS3 than an extension of the OG 10.1 or 10.1 2. I just updated my OG Tab 10.1 to ICS before I got the Note and the Note’s version of TW is far more modern with 3D effects on things like the keyboard.
- It has SGS3 features like Awake Stay, AllShare Play, AllShare Cast, BT4.0/aptX, and Buddy Photo.
- The new keyboard is much better laid out and has mini and thumb views. It also floats in mini-mode and has Swype-like capabilities. It’s actually quite usable now.
- The screen is incredibly responsive whether via finger or stylus navigation. Between that and the GPU/CPU speed and additional RAM it's almost an iPad like experience.
- The onboard speakers sound fantastic for a mobile device.
- Video performance is the best I've seen on an Android device.
- It's well built and feels very premium.
Neutral:
- It's not going to win any beauty contests but it's growing on me.
- Samsung's apps and widgets aren't terribly impressive aesthetically. Why does Samsung fell the need to make everything look so cartoonish?
Negative:
- Social Hub has been removed which really doesn't make any sense. I checked the Luxembourg and Netherlands ROMs and its missing from them too. My 3G Note has a TTT (Trinidad) CSC. Some other leisure stuff has been left out too like AP Mobile.
- The S-Pen's in a stupid place. If the Note's in a case or sitting on a stand you can't reach it. Based on the real estate that's probably the only place they could put it. It also feels a little cheap.
- Auto-brightness is way too low; probably to save battery.
- It can't read SDXC memory cards. I had to go through a ton of gymnastics to get it to recognize my SanDisk 64GB card and it's now running FAT. It's a shame Samsung didn't implement exFAT the way they did on the SGS3.
- It’s a shame it doesn’t have an HD display.
I'll post more as I use it for different things.

Questions.....
Light Bleed, especially on boot up?
BlueTooth and wireless - are there any issues with using BT while on wifi?
Are you using the Chrome browser?
Have you tried any games, or netflix. Netflix from what I am hearing is poor on the T700, and games had stuttering issues before our last update.
no bogging down with many widgets running?

BarryH_GEG said:
Negative:
- It can't read SDXC memory cards. I had to go through a ton of gymnastics to get it to recognize my SanDisk 64GB card and it's now running FAT. It's a shame Samsung didn't implement exFAT the way they did on the SGS3.
I'll post more as I use it for different things.
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Ugh... the lack of exFAT is almost a dealbreaker!! Now I have to really think about if this is worth getting or not (have a Note N7000 right now and really miss having big files on my 64Gb card).

With general usage, how is the performance compared to other Android tablets or iPad?
How good are stock apps like S-Note or the Adobe PS?

Thanks for the observations. Very good points to take into account.
I have a question about multitasking. Is it possible to have floating windows? Are there limitations on what can multitask? For instance, I'm interested to float a video or photo, while having Sketchbook Pro or some other drawing app open to draw on. Is that possible?
Sent from my Galaxy Note

lardo5150 said:
Questions.....
Light Bleed, especially on boot up?
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None. Samsung's QC on their tablet displays is pretty impressive. The only display complaint was with early versions of the OG 10.1 which would get a moisture circle between the glass and panel from humidity. That was more a design issue than a QC issue. The resolution's the same as the OG 10.1 but looking at them side-by-side the panel itself is definately different. It seems a lot sharper; especially with text.
BlueTooth and wireless - are there any issues with using BT while on wifi?
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That's an Asus "feature." I've never had that issue on any other brand of Android device I've owned.
Are you using the Chrome browser?
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Stock. If you use a third party browser you lose multi-view.
Have you tried any games, or netflix. Netflix from what I am hearing is poor on the T700, and games had stuttering issues before our last update.
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No games yet. Netflix plays great. So does Amazon Instant (via the browser), HBO GO, Xfinity Player, YouTube HD, and Vevo.
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Nope. I have 30 running across five home pages.

cmunho said:
Thanks for the observations. Very good points to take into account.
I have a question about multitasking. Is it possible to have floating windows? Are there limitations on what can multitask? For instance, I'm interested to float a video or photo, while having Sketchbook Pro or some other drawing app open to draw on. Is that possible?
Sent from my Galaxy Note
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No, side-by-side only with each app fixed at half the display. Videos in Pop Up Play float and can be moved and resized. Pop Up Play only works with the stock video player.

BarryH_GEG said:
Positive:
- Fast, fluid, powerful.
- Multitasking is fantastic because of the additional RAM.
- The browser is as close to desktop performance as I've seen in an Android device
.- It's a new generation of tablet for Samsung, more like a giant SGS3 than an extension of the OG 10.1 or 10.1 2. I just updated my OG Tab 10.1 to ICS before I got the Note and the Note’s version of TW is far more modern with 3D effects on things like the keyboard.
- It has SGS3 features like Awake Stay, AllShare Play, AllShare Cast, BT4.0/aptX, and Buddy Photo.
- The new keyboard is much better laid out and has mini and thumb views. It also floats in mini-mode and has Swype-like capabilities. It’s actually quite usable now.
- The screen is incredibly responsive whether via finger or stylus navigation. Between that and the GPU/CPU speed and additional RAM it's almost an iPad like experience.
- The onboard speakers sound fantastic for a mobile device.
- Video performance is the best I've seen on an Android device.
- It's well built and feels very premium.
Neutral:
- It's not going to win any beauty contests but it's growing on me.
- Samsung's apps and widgets aren't terribly impressive aesthetically. Why does Samsung fell the need to make everything look so cartoonish?
Negative:
- Social Hub has been removed which really doesn't make any sense. I checked the Luxembourg and Netherlands ROMs and its missing from them too. My 3G Note has a TTT (Trinidad) CSC. Some other leisure stuff has been left out too like AP Mobile.
- The S-Pen's in a stupid place. If the Note's in a case or sitting on a stand you can't reach it. Based on the real estate that's probably the only place they could put it. It also feels a little cheap.
- Auto-brightness is way too low; probably to save battery.
- It can't read SDXC memory cards. I had to go through a ton of gymnastics to get it to recognize my SanDisk 64GB card and it's now running FAT. It's a shame Samsung didn't implement exFAT the way they did on the SGS3.
- It’s a shame it doesn’t have an HD display.
I'll post more as I use it for different things.
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Ok, I have it since Friday last week and also have a normal 10.1 and can confirm some views but let me add/question others:
First some great differences from normal 10.1:
+ SD card slot (I did not have one before... How did you get 64gb working? I did not so far
+ Infrared port (you can use it as a remote controller for your TV
+ Whatever have been sayd on speed/memory above
+ Some nice configurable enhancement on lockscreen
+ A special menu (or direct app) appears when you pull out the pen
+ You can define the level of auto brightness now! (therefore it's not too dark, just pull the slider and the auto brignes will be affected as well to a higher level )
+ No Social hub (I always reoved this with Titanium because I don't use any of the Samsung hubs)
- The price was heavy (OK, I wanted to get it as one of the first and did not want to wait until I get 20% discount)
- Why not a higher resolution screen?
- The 64GB SD topic
I did not have too much time to test a lot or to install/play a lot of games (use it more for business). Run only Quadrant Pro once and the result was ~6150, about twice than on my 10.1.
Ok, I hope I helped some more with my additional view!

I would like to point a thing about the screen resolution. Exynos 4412 doesn't support Full HD. It supports max WXGA resolution.
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_12.html
I guess we will have to wait for Exynos 5 series for FHD and WQXGA resolution.

fscherz said:
+ You can define the level of auto brightness now! (therefore it's not too dark, just pull the slider and the auto brignes will be affected as well to a higher level )
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Thanks for this. It was driving me crazy.
- The price was heavy (OK, I wanted to get it as one of the first and did not want to wait until I get 20% discount)
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Did you get a 3G version? The 16GB Note was less than I paid for my 3G 32GB UK G-Tab 10.1. And at least I can use the Note as a phone for conference calls and spare the battery on my phone.

BarryH_GEG said:
Did you get a 3G version? The 16GB Note was less than I paid for my 3G 32GB UK G-Tab 10.1. And at least I can use the Note as a phone for conference calls and spare the battery on my phone.
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Yes, I bought the 3G and I 4got to mention one other big +
+ !!!! You can use it as a phone, it comes with dialer and works as normal phone like the 7 Tab!!!! Of course, use the earphones if you don't want to use the standard speakerphone setup
+ Another +, it's data speed is much higher than any of my other tablets or my normal Galaxy Note N7000! I get full WIFI speed now (22MB, have DSL with 24MB max...) and 8MB+ on H+. Before I had with Tab 10.1 and Note only around 8MB on Wifi and 3-4MB on H+

Does the stock browser reflow text? Thanks!

I've had one since Friday. Purchased from Negri. It is awesome. The writing is SO fluid - NO lag.
I got my 64 GB card to work by formatting it in my 5" Note. It wouldn't recognize it before but after format in the small Note it recognizes it as 64 GB.
I cannot get BeyondPod to move it's directory to this external card. Does anyone know the path I need to tell BeyondPod to use?

Nakel said:
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No.

oh snap! microsoft is gonna sue! samsung's promo vid looks so dang much like courier.
/s
i gotta say their demo looks like everything i had hoped ms to come out with. i'm playing with the asus infinity right now but starting to come across the regular QC defects that asus works so hard to maintain.
it's a hard decision -
asus- decent hardware with great aftermarket support
samsung - great quality hardware with sub-par aftermarket support (just getting ics after the JB ships??? tablet support is on different than their phones).
my 1 yr old gt 10.1 has no light bleed, no clicks or creaks and works just as good as day one.
my tf infinity is 4 days old and the bleed has progressively gotten worse and the click on the right side is getting a bit louder. i like it, but i'd hate to have it fall apart on me.

I've had mine for about a week now, and I'm in love with this device. It's by far the best, most responsive Android tablet I've used - and I've used a lot. My GTab 7.7 feels like a juddery mess compared to this thing. I find it very nice to hold, very light, the speakers are fantastic - and FRONT facing (why is this so hard for manufacturers/designers to understand we want them on the front??), battery life is excellent, and the screen, OK it's not HD (and a bit jarring coming from an iPad 3) is still plenty nice, bright and clear.
It's my favourite tablet, possibly ever.
That being said - I've had a few software issues with it.
1) Most serious, but only happened once so far: I brought up the pop-up S Memo from the bottom taskbar, then clicked the fullscreen button to expand to the full S Note application. S Note completely froze, then crashed. Upon relaunch, half of my notes, along with half the demo/tutorial notes were completely missing from the app. NOT good. After messing around with ways to get it back, I discovered through the file browser that all the note files were actually still there. I went into the Application manager in android settings and did a "Clear Data" for S Note. This solved the problem. Upon relaunch, all the notes were back in S Note.
2) In S Planner, there is NO option to create a NEW note in S Note to attach to a task. There is only an option to link an existing note. The original GNote has the option to create a new note.
3) Also in S Planner, one time I selected the option to link a task to a note in S Note, and S Note opened but then completely froze. Force killing S Note did not help. I tried multiple times, and had to restart the whole tablet to be able to use S Note at all.
4) I've been using an Apple (no hissing, please) bluetooth keyboard with the Gnote 10.1. Works fantastic (see, Apple and Samsung really CAN get along ) but I turned the bluetooth off one time to save battery when not using the keyboard. A while later, I tried to turn bluetooth on again. Bluetooth would not turn on. I could not toggle it on or off. I restarted the tablet, and bluetooth came on automatically.
These issues are very annoying, but so far have all happened only once. Hopefully will not be recurring issues, as I plan to make extensive use of S Note and a bluetooth keyboard too.
Other than that, I just LOVE this tablet. Bye bye, iPad 3!
Sent from my GT-N8000 using xda premium

How's the battery life so far?
And does the screen resolution look clear enough compared to ipad 3?

fscherz said:
Yes, I bought the 3G and I 4got to mention one other big +
+ !!!! You can use it as a phone, it comes with dialer and works as normal phone like the 7 Tab!!!! Of course, use the earphones if you don't want to use the standard speakerphone setup
+ Another +, it's data speed is much higher than any of my other tablets or my normal Galaxy Note N7000! I get full WIFI speed now (22MB, have DSL with 24MB max...) and 8MB+ on H+. Before I had with Tab 10.1 and Note only around 8MB on Wifi and 3-4MB on H+
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The phone is cool. I would imagine you could easily do hands-free (haven't actually tried it), but the speakers are certainly loud enough for most situations.
BTW, i've never seen a phone this large. I imagine there have been a few, but perhaps not. Anyone?

macwilson said:
The phone is cool. I would imagine you could easily do hands-free (haven't actually tried it), but the speakers are certainly loud enough for most situations.
BTW, i've never seen a phone this large. I imagine there have been a few, but perhaps not. Anyone?
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Samsung also is releasing a bluetooth S-pen that you can use to talk on phone .......
see here http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/300...iew-high-end-tablet-but-lacking-in-resolution
"unless you get the special Bluetooth pen also announced on Monday which you can hold to your ear during a conversation."

BarryH_GEG said:
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Damn!

Do you recommend Nexus 7 ?

Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.

mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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First of all, I don't have the Nexus 7 yet, but I am familiar with the most stuff around.
- I used the way slower Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 @1,38 GHz with Android 4.1.1, very smooth & "buttery", I can't believe that the faster Nexus 7 would lag here
- Gaming: Sorry, no idea.
- Well, it can't be that bad crap from Asus, it's cheap because of missing things (eg back camera & light, microSD-card slot). It has a Gorilla Glass display, that's really good -> check out Ericas XDA Video: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
- I own also a Galaxy Nexus, use it mobile/out of the house and anywhere and I don't wanna miss that one. It will be a "it depends on" thing. Honestly, more important to me it's the smartphone.
- Ratings - it also depends on. But for my usage it would be about 8/10.

benkxda said:
First of all, I don't have the Nexus 7 yet, but I am familiar with the most stuff around.
- I used the way slower Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 @1,38 GHz with Android 4.1.1, very smooth & "buttery", I can't believe that the faster Nexus 7 would lag here
- Gaming: Sorry, no idea.
- Well, it can't be that bad crap from Asus, it's cheap because of missing things (eg back camera & light, microSD-card slot). It has a Gorilla Glass display, that's really good -> check out Ericas XDA Video: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
- I own also a Galaxy Nexus, use it mobile/out of the house and anywhere and I don't wanna miss that one. It will be a "it depends on" thing. Honestly, more important to me it's the smartphone.
- Ratings - it also depends on. But for my usage it would be about 8/10.
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Thanks. I am confused between smartphone and tablet, want to enjoy youtube,browser,games on bigger screen but dont want to give my smartphone

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Thanks. I am confused between smartphone and tablet, want to enjoy youtube,browser,games on bigger screen but dont want to give my smartphone
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Well, I use both. At home I just update the Galaxy Nexus but use the Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for surfing from the couch. The GTab 2 is sold and will be replaced by the Nexus 7 16 GB.
If you want to save money, buy a Nexus 7 with 8 GB, buy a USB OTG cable and use a USB stick or small USB plug for more memory. Then you could use the USB OTG + USB stick with your Smartphone as well, if it has also an micro USB slot and if the kernel supports USB OTG.
I dont' know, if the Nexus 7 natively supports USB OTG, but Francisco Francos kernel does this for the Galaxy Nexus and I guess, this will work with the new Nexus 7 kernel also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341
Edit: Maybe helps you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30803801#post30803801

mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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No of will not lag at all
Sometimes this happened because they might not be built for the tegra 3, the problem of asphalt 7.
Small games are awesome and I prefer them on my n7.
Build quality is very good, fell on the stairs and dropped my nexus, not a scratch.
I have a regular phone to call and text and my nexus works fine. Although you can get tablet all and use your nexus and use it as a phone working with your smartphone.
My nexus is a........ 9 1\2 out of 10
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I have my Nexus for over a month now, i dont use it heavily for gaming but it runs temple run beautifully.. id say the 7" screen actually suits it a bit better than smaller phone screens..
Here's an interesting article i read on tegra 3 the other day
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-how-powerful-is-tegra-3
Thats an interesting idea about selling your smartphone and going for the nexus.. a lot of the functions i use my smartphone for as easy/easier to replicate on the nexus 7. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone but wouldnt part with it. I run tablet talk on both the 7 and phone so can send/receive texts on the tablet. If you do go for a cheaper phone make sure you can still use it as a portable hotspot so you can tether the nexus 7 to it, unless you are always in wifi coverage
Re build quality - I would say its fine.. its probably no better/worse than any smart phone/tablet nowadays.. if you drop it and it doesnt have a case, you are going to damage the corners.. it will probably survive but i wouldnt be without a case on any device like this.
The home screen doesnt lag, Some apps cause lag, I had an app called ultimate rotation control and it would take a few seconds for the icons on my home screen to redraw when rotating the tablet. im still not sure whether i'd like the home screen to rotate or accept googles stance that its better than its always in portrait mode.
Anyway good luck deciding oh and out of 10.. for me so far its 10/10... if i could improve i'd say put a higher quality DAC in the device.. but hopefully some android compatible usb DACS will be available to purchase soon..
Cheers,
Mick
mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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mehdi110z said:
Hello guys... First of, I have never used a tablet before so I need your suggestions and opinions about this device.
- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
Your opinions are very much appreciated, please also tell me if you own Nexus 7 or you read the above answers somewhere.
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Hi there, I actually upgraded to both a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7 coming from a Nexus One. The Nexus 7 being my first tablet, it fills my need for a portable entertainment device (games, media, news, browsing). Going on to your questions:
Lag Issue: No lag from widgets although it depends on what ROM you have. I used stock for a week with 3 active home screens filled with widgets and I experienced no hiccups whatsoever. I've been using AOSP based ROMS with the Apex launcher without lagginess as well.
Games: As mentioned by people above me, the lag is due to the developers and not the OS. As an example, I've been playing Max Payne and have experienced the touchscreen being unresponsive or having random turns. After the update a few days ago, all issues have been fixed. Temple Run scales well IMO.
Build Quality: Mine experiences the screen flicker and screen lift, but it isn't a deal breaker. It still is under warranty so I can ask for repairs, repair it myself, or ask for a replacement. The back and screen is a smudge magnet (I have oily hands) so it would be best to buy a case and screen protector the same time you buy the Nexus 7.
Downgrading smartphone: Depends on what kind of smartphone you have. If you have a phone from the past year, the Nexus 7 will complement it nicely. In my case, I still regularly use my phone for emails, SMS, calls, and some games, so you won't lose any utility out of your phone if you buy a Nexus 7.
Rating: I'd rate my Nexus 7 to an 8/10 with the minus points being the build quality.

- Does this device lag if I fill my homescreen with widgets that constantly refresh after intervals like rss feeds, gmail, facebook, youtube, weather ?
The N7 is well spec'd and punches above its weight. I have rarely, if ever, noted any slow down. I don't have a ton of stuff over my home screens but the usual. Very impressed with performance.
- I have been reading threads about games lagging on it, like nova 3, asphalt. Also I read there are random turns in Shadowgun and dead trigger. Is this issue resolved or any hope it will be resolved? Also does small games like Fruit ninja, Where's my water, Templerun look stretched out on 7" screen or it manages it beautifully?
I used to be a big online fps play in my youth (kids seem to have taken over now!) so I haven't played many games on mine, but I have tested a few. I found no problems with Dead Trigger, it looks fantastic and seems as smooth as I could possibly want. If there is an issue with slowing down I haven't noticed it but then I have only played through a few levels.
- How is the build quality ? Is it strong enough that it can manage the falls from short distance ? Considering its price, I am very curious to know about its build.
It certainly feels well built. But I have noted a couple of people complain on Twitter that they have broken theirs by dropping it. My view on this is that these things are being dropped everyday - they've sold millions and people can be clumsy (my toddler plays with mine!). Inevitably some are going to fall the wrong way and will break. Mine isn't wrapped up in cotton wool but it cost enough to want to take reasonable care of it - perhaps the best advice is try not to drop it!
- Is this a good choice, If I sell my smartphone and get Nexus 7 and a simple phone to manage calls and sms.
It depends. Do you need 3G access? Do you like having a handy camera in your phone? The N7 is very portable, but you wouldn't want to slip it in your pocket on a night out. I think only you can judge this.
- Overall, how much will you rate your Nexus7 out of score of 10.
I'd give it a 9. I really love it but I wanted SD card expansion so that was my compromise. There are ways to live with this though and you'll find plenty of chat on the forum. Flash support is another niggle. Other than that there's not much I'd change.

Honestly the best $250 I've ever spent. Lacking in a few areas but Deff wished they put in a micro sd slot. Regardless still give it a 9/10
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benkxda said:
First of all, I don't have the Nexus 7 yet, but I am familiar with the most stuff around.
- I used the way slower Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 @1,38 GHz with Android 4.1.1, very smooth & "buttery", I can't believe that the faster Nexus 7 would lag here
- Gaming: Sorry, no idea.
- Well, it can't be that bad crap from Asus, it's cheap because of missing things (eg back camera & light, microSD-card slot). It has a Gorilla Glass display, that's really good -> check out Ericas XDA Video: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/
- I own also a Galaxy Nexus, use it mobile/out of the house and anywhere and I don't wanna miss that one. It will be a "it depends on" thing. Honestly, more important to me it's the smartphone.
- Ratings - it also depends on. But for my usage it would be about 8/10.
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The Nexus 7 does not have Gorilla Glass. It's just a scratch resistant glass from Corning.

i would say it needs a screen protector.. the first nexus 7 i had the kids managed to get some hair line scatches on it.. i managed to sell it for full purchase price and bought a new one... i am quite anal about scratched screeens! i havent taken the replacement out of its plastic wrap yet.. am waiting for screen protector to arrive
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The Nexus 7 does not have Gorilla Glass. It's just a scratch resistant glass from Corning.
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veeman said:
The Nexus 7 does not have Gorilla Glass. It's just a scratch resistant glass from Corning.
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Argh. You're right. I always assumed that this is Gorilla Glass. Google did not agree, just said "scratch-resistant Corning glass". I'm sorry .

Since I bought my Nexus 7, I don't use my galaxy s2 anymore, only for calls nexus 7 is perfect for browsing YouTube videos and gaming
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Note 10.1 for school

I just recently picked up a Note 10.1 to replace my HP touchpad for use at school. I was having a tough time deciding on the tablet so I thought I would post my experience using the Note 10.1 for productivity the last week. Any comparison I have is to the HP Touchpad running android ICS. Here is some key points.
The Good:
1. The Note 10.1 is not very heavy, I use it as a notebook and its about the same size and weight as a notebook.
2. The device has darn good battery life, I'm not going to throw numbers around because it varies, but its good.
3. The Note 10.1 is of good quality. THe one I have does not creak, has good sound and what I consider a quality screen. Side by side compared to my HP Touchpad of similar pixels, there is no comparison, the Note 10.1 is FAR superior in picture quality and color saturation.
4. The S-Pen is very useful. Best thing about Note devices in general, you can use them in class and people don't assume your on facebook or texting, simply because you have a pen in your hand. I don't have a facebook anyhow but the perception is different.
5. The software is solid, it does not lag, it does not shut off, it just works, at least so far.
6. The device is pretty close to a desktop replacement for me, the multitasking really opens up the options and works pretty well.
The Bad:
1. When using the device at school (I have very long days in one classroom), it can't be sat upright AND be on the charger. I have the samsung book-cover case and when it is upright, since the charging port is on the bottom, it won't plug in.
2. Proprietary cable, I know there are some good things, but my touchpad had micro USB and I think it was nice to have a standard.
That's all. It's overall a great device. I am very happy with it.

If you get a 360 case you can rotate the tablet while in the case so that the charging port would then be on the top and you can charge that way. I kind of like the 30 pin connector as it is more hefty, I have seen so many people complain about damaged micro usb charging ports on other device forum pages. Playbook and kindle fire especially. Just my 2 cents........
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fosmon-Leather-Folio-Stand-Case-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10-1-Dark-Purple-/290833896213?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item43b70d1315
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You can get an adaptor that gives you normal usb ... I have a hub that connects to the 30 pin connector, gives me 3 usb ports and a couple of sd card ports. 1 normal sd and 1 microsd... I got this for around $20 on ebay and have no regrets as it works flawlessly with everything I've thrown at it, excepting of course an unpowered HDD....

Thanks for sharing your experience with the GNote. I'm curious about how you connected your tab to the monitor? Hdmi adapter cable? And how about the keyboard? Is it bluetooth? Make?
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Widget21 said:
Thanks for sharing your experience with the GNote. I'm curious about how you connected your tab to the monitor? Hdmi adapter cable? And how about the keyboard? Is it bluetooth? Make?
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You can connect a BT keyboard, you can generally share music, video and photo's to an HDTV if it has WiFi (DLNA), You can use the HDMI adapter or a Samsung All Share Cast Hub that sends a wireless mirrored image to anything with an HDMI connection. There are many options.
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I wanted to touch on the school usablity. I'm the only one that I've seen in my school with a Note. I have the origonal note on ATT for a while, but I didnt feel the software matched the hardware at all. I sold my transformer infinity prime (which was awesome hardware but really really bad software) for the Note 10.1.
I've used it for a few weeks now in lectures and for homework. Many of my instructors upload either PDF of power points of their lectures. The Note excels at handling this. I simply import PDF directly to SNote or if its a powerpoint, I can open it in the included office program then export it as a PDF then import it to SNote. Either way, I have folders for all my classes along with lecture notes organized in a slim format. I used to go through almost a ream of paper every term printing out slides (6 per page) and then organizing into a huge binder and watching the pages wear out. And not something I want to haul around and study. The Note replaces all this. When I work out math problems, I have an instant "dry erase" board with me. I don't go through notebooks. Also, I have the equation solver in Snote which is awesome by the way.
I wish I could get flash working well. I have it sideloaded and have firefox on it, but the online homework sites that use flash do not recognize onscreen keyboard inputs. Other than the laggy lock screen (seems to be all the animations) it runs great and snappy.

I've also switched from paper notes to digital. It's awesome, there's just one problem. Several times I've caught myself looking for the undo button in class on the real-life whiteboard

Does anyone use there note for textbooks? If so, how is it with the resolution? Especially if you use it in multi window while taking notes.
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It's not bad. Use hyreader for chm, ezpdf/acrobat/radeepdf for pdf reading. It does take away space from the already small screen for notes so I tend to use my laptop or an actual textbook instead if I intend on taking notes. Sometimes i'll just give up and write directly on the pdf instead. for PPTs, I convert to PDF and write directly on them w/ acrobat or ezPDF.

setasai said:
It's not bad. Use hyreader for chm, ezpdf/acrobat/radeepdf for pdf reading. It does take away space from the already small screen for notes so I tend to use my laptop or an actual textbook instead if I intend on taking notes. Sometimes i'll just give up and write directly on the pdf instead. for PPTs, I convert to PDF and write directly on them w/ acrobat or ezPDF.
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If im decidimg between this and a nexus 10, would it be better to go with the nexus for the higher resolution for better clarity of textbooks and take any notes on a netbook I already have? If the lecture is using a PPT thats provided, I could always take the notes on the "note" section of the power point slide. Typing is also faster than writing. After seeing the nexus 10, im having a hard time going for the note due to the clarity of screen. What do you think?

I've had no issues w/ reading textbooks on the Note 10.1. The question you need to ask yourself is if you want the s-pen. It's really the deciding factor. If you want to be writing and taking handwritten notes with it then there's no question about it, go with the Note. If you just want a tablet to read things and surf the web then go for pretty much ANY tablet out there, or go with the Note anyways. Doesnt really matter.
As for PPT notes, sure you could type faster if that's the type of classes you have. I'm in med school and writing/drawing out diagrams is super super useful. For example, I'll have a slide with an image of a lung, the pen lets me circle the abscess and label it. Really depends on the purpose.
Think about your purpose. Think about what fits your usage and what you want to use it for. S-pen is unparalleled and the screen resolution isnt breath taking but it's NOT bad at all.

Sher The Love said:
Does anyone use there note for textbooks? If so, how is it with the resolution? Especially if you use it in multi window while taking notes.
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This is my main concern as well. I'm wanting to use a Note 10.1 for my pdf textbooks and be able to take notes with it as well. Am I going to need another tablet just for the books or will I be able to dual view or switch windows quick enough where I only need the one device?

witchdoc13 said:
This is my main concern as well. I'm wanting to use a Note 10.1 for my pdf textbooks and be able to take notes with it as well. Am I going to need another tablet just for the books or will I be able to dual view or switch windows quick enough where I only need the one device?
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The feature you are looking is what makes this tablet unique.
I almost never use my hard copies of books. Just use the digital version.
I the multi Window features plus spen is very useful to take notes while reading. No other tablet offers these two. I thought the newer Windows tablet might work better but I am wrong. Their pen input needs a lot more improvement.
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aalupatti said:
The feature you are looking is what makes this tablet unique.
I almost never use my hard copies of books. Just use the digital version.
I the multi Window features plus spen is very useful to take notes while reading. No other tablet offers these two. I thought the newer Windows tablet might work better but I am wrong. Their pen input needs a lot more improvement.
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That's just what I wanted to hear. The Windows Surface Pro was my other choice, but I figured I could get a Note 10.1 and a cheap laptop at the same cost. I just ordered a 32gb Note 10.1 and it should be here in a few days. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for the reply.

Sher The Love said:
If im decidimg between this and a nexus 10, would it be better to go with the nexus for the higher resolution for better clarity of textbooks and take any notes on a netbook I already have? If the lecture is using a PPT thats provided, I could always take the notes on the "note" section of the power point slide. Typing is also faster than writing. After seeing the nexus 10, im having a hard time going for the note due to the clarity of screen. What do you think?
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I was in the same boat so I got both lol.

I would definitely recommend the Note 10.1 for textbook reading and note-taking, especially if u can find your textbooks on the Kno website. Their textbooks are interactive in more than a few ways!! The S-Pen seals the deal here too, at least for me.
I'll post some screens of my Music Textbook. Or maybe I should do a vid.

And to top it off you can add the 64gb sd card and increase your memory... I know that a lot of tabs dothis but a few don't, I'm looking at the nexus family here.... This is a real downer as sometimes 32gb just isn't enough.
The screen is fine, I read books in epub format all the time and also read a fair few PDF's with no problems... And I'm not a student...:laugh:

I have a note 10.1 and I've been using it primarily for my revision for my exams and its been awesome !!
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Action B said:
I just recently picked up a Note 10.1 to replace my HP touchpad for use at school. I was having a tough time deciding on the tablet so I thought I would post my experience using the Note 10.1 for productivity the last week. Any comparison I have is to the HP Touchpad running android ICS. Here is some key points.
The Good:
1. The Note 10.1 is not very heavy, I use it as a notebook and its about the same size and weight as a notebook.
2. The device has darn good battery life, I'm not going to throw numbers around because it varies, but its good.
3. The Note 10.1 is of good quality. THe one I have does not creak, has good sound and what I consider a quality screen. Side by side compared to my HP Touchpad of similar pixels, there is no comparison, the Note 10.1 is FAR superior in picture quality and color saturation.
4. The S-Pen is very useful. Best thing about Note devices in general, you can use them in class and people don't assume your on facebook or texting, simply because you have a pen in your hand. I don't have a facebook anyhow but the perception is different.
5. The software is solid, it does not lag, it does not shut off, it just works, at least so far.
6. The device is pretty close to a desktop replacement for me, the multitasking really opens up the options and works pretty well.
The Bad:
1. When using the device at school (I have very long days in one classroom), it can't be sat upright AND be on the charger. I have the samsung book-cover case and when it is upright, since the charging port is on the bottom, it won't plug in.
2. Proprietary cable, I know there are some good things, but my touchpad had micro USB and I think it was nice to have a standard.
That's all. It's overall a great device. I am very happy with it.
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I'll comment on battery... I think it's great
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Why is everybody saying that iOS has better pdf handling than Android?

I find the spen, ezpdf, Dropbox combo to be perfect.
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I actually just said that in a recent post. It is true. I know that having the pen with ezPDF is amazing and works well. The issue is in the performance. Try an iPad. Load a graphic intensive PDF on it and then start moving around from page to page and zooming. It's smooth as heck. Now do it on the Note 10.1 2014... Choppy, inconsistent and slows down to a crawl sometimes. As much as a hate Apple and I think that their products are mainly consumption kiddy toys, they do have some very optimized well put together hardware and software. There is a reason why they are praised for their gaming capabilities, because the GPU capabilities are amazing. But like I said, outside of that, there is nothing special about it so it's not like that would win me over. The Note 10.1 2014 is what I am sticking with and it will do wonders for most everything, I just hope the video processing and random system performance gets patched along the way soon.

Dissappinted to hear that. I wanted to upgeade to a 2014 for better, faster pdf handling. I guess all the ipad needs is a pen with good palm rejection.
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dtziheucdavis said:
Dissappinted to hear that. I wanted to upgeade to a 2014 for better, faster pdf handling. I guess all the ipad needs is a pen with good palm rejection.
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If they put a Wacom Digitizer in there they may have something.
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yeah my daughters old ass ipad2 is still pretty smooth. any 2yr old android tablet can't even hang - tegra2 sucked!

Is what you are seeing really attributable to a difference between an iPad and Android from a hardware and OS perspective or is it a difference in the PDF apps that are available? I know that it really doesn't matter in the end because the results of the same but it seems to be more related to deficiencies ezPDF then in the hardware or OS. I really wish Bluebeam would step up and bring their PDF reader to Android.

I think pdf handling on the note 10.1 2014 isn't perfect but its definitely smooth enough unless you're OCD

Compare GoodNotes on iOS to ezPDF on Android and you'll see why.

Check out Mantano reader. I find that it has the smoothest experience out of all android PDF readers. There performance may not be as good as the iOS alternatives, but it comes pretty close. I can read a 1000 page textbook on my galaxy s3 without any noticeable lag or stutter. The performance should be just as good, if not better on the note 2014. It also has annotate/highlight functionality which could put the pen to good use.

C2Q said:
Check out Mantano reader. I find that it has the smoothest experience out of all android PDF readers. There performance may not be as good as the iOS alternatives, but it comes pretty close. I can read a 1000 page textbook on my galaxy s3 without any noticeable lag or stutter. The performance should be just as good, if not better on the note 2014. It also has annotate/highlight functionality which could put the pen to good use.
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Before I shell out for the Premium version, does it have the ability to put sticky notes, and does it have a "turning page" effect like ezPDF?

Han Solo 1 said:
Before I shell out for the Premium version, does it have the ability to put sticky notes, and does it have a "turning page" effect like ezPDF?
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You should try out the lite version first because I think it's essentially the same in terms of performance. The turning page effect is not there for PDF files (doesn't matter to me really), it just a straight horizontal or vertical scroll. I believe you can put some equivalent of sticky notes - you can write a text note and have it linked to a page, but it wont explicitly show a sticky note symbol on the page. Also I must warn you that despite the scrolling and rendering to be really smooth, the text rendering isn't that amazing, but I'm not sure which other PDF reader has that anyway. What I mean is that, when zooming in, there is a delay before the text gets sharper.
Edit: there's also this other reader I heard is quite good performance wise. Radaee PDF reader. I haven't tried it out myself, but maybe you want to give that a look as well.

C2Q said:
Check out Mantano reader. I find that it has the smoothest experience out of all android PDF readers. There performance may not be as good as the iOS alternatives, but it comes pretty close. I can read a 1000 page textbook on my galaxy s3 without any noticeable lag or stutter. The performance should be just as good, if not better on the note 2014. It also has annotate/highlight functionality which could put the pen to good use.
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Mantano is indeed good and smooth, but it seems it does not have palm rejection when using the spen?

Han Solo 1 said:
Before I shell out for the Premium version, does it have the ability to put sticky notes, and does it have a "turning page" effect like ezPDF?
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Remember. You have a 15 minute refund window. I refunded it myself cause I couldn't find a way to persistently highlight. It was annoying to keep to the side to highlight. I emailed the Dev to ask but no reply yet.

Its the apps that are present.
Just two app 'notability' and 'good reader" in ipad can already give superior annotating which up to date no developer in android has ever manage to create.
It has everything lecturenote, snote, ezpdf or any annotating app on play store has to offer. On top of that they auto cloud sync(no need for dropsync), it keeps text formatting of your pdf files, import and export in seconds.
Downside is... there is no s pen for ipad. If one day those 2 companies plan to hit the android market I think those apps I mentioned will probably be obsolete. I was quite disappointed with android in this when I traded in my iPad for a note 10.1 2014.
If a digitizer appears on iPad. It will be the end for the productivity appeal of android (apart from note 10.1 with multi window IMO).

earthtk said:
Its the apps that are present.
Just two app 'notability' and 'good reader" in ipad can already give superior annotating which up to date no developer in android has ever manage to create.
It has everything lecturenote, snote, ezpdf or any annotating app on play store has to offer. On top of that they auto cloud sync(no need for dropsync), it keeps text formatting of your pdf files, import and export in seconds.
Downside is... there is no s pen for ipad. If one day those 2 companies plan to hit the android market I think those apps I mentioned will probably be obsolete. I was quite disappointed with android in this when I traded in my iPad for a note 10.1 2014.
If a digitizer appears on iPad. It will be the end for the productivity appeal of android (apart from note 10.1 with multi window IMO).
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Best post in this thread. I agree on every point.

Han Solo 1 said:
Best post in this thread. I agree on every point.
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:good: Hope you are not having a bad time with your note 10.1 haha..
Anyway my opinion is not a biased one. I have always tests device and tell friends if they are good or not. I have tried almost every single annotating there is on android but all were not up to my standard of productivity.
Please don't read peoples' comments on how good this app is or that app is. I was fooled.. Most of them only had the experience on one side of the coin and not the other. Try it yourself (if you can), and tell yourself which is better.
Here is my advise though:
If anyone want get an android device for PDF annotating or dealing with PDF(drawing diagram etc), please reconsider your option as a jotpro + notability/good reader on iPad as it does a better job.
If you don't mind all the hassle(frankly speaking its very troublesome) of rendering every single pages during import and export which takes a whole lot of your time for lecturenotes/s note (not to mention increase in pdf sizes and lack of quality) or lack of functionality of ezpdf (and other pdf annotator). Go ahead and get a note 10.1 for its multi screen so you can view and refer to multiple document at once.
If you are considering of hardware performance-wise, I'm not sure about gaming but other than that there is no difference between a iPad 3 and note 10.1 2014 edition performance.

Is jotpro really comparable to spen though? I use my tablet only for pdf reading and annotating. The downside of all the ipad stuff has always been that the stylus is too thick and imprecise, and there is no palm rejection. Other than that, I do agree ipad is superior for just reading pdfs. Although, I have found that mupdf is extremely fast on Android if all you want to do is read and not annotate.
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iPad, Jot Pro and apps are POS. Just look at YouTube videos of mentioned app with Jot Pro like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4oTEQqSiyo
- Writing input is laggy even compared to my old Note 2. Should be even faster on Note 3 after it finishes downloading Call of Duty Strike Team.
Update: Note 3 (Snapdragon 800) is even faster as expected. Only suggestion is to change the freehand writing thickness from default super thick to either 1 or 3 point to make it more responsive.
- No palm rejection will give you carpal tunnel syndrome writing awkwardly with palm in the air. Or, you can waste half of your screen with what this guy is doing using a make shift palm wrest.
- Even on a full size iPad with the input window zoomed in, the writing is inaccurate and looks like chicken scratches. On Note 2 5.5" without zooming I can write tiny text accurately.
- I tested the free Acrobat Reader to annotate a 133 page PDF and it's fast to scroll, zoom in/out, manipulate, etc. and this is on my old Note 2. It has built-in cloud sync with Adobe or you can use a number of other services like Google Drive, Dropbox, SkyDrive, etc.
- On the iPad with only 1GB DRAM you risk losing whatever you're working on when you task switch if, for example, you have to switch to VOIP app to take a call, check Gmail/Maps, run another app, etc. I've lost comments I was in the middle of writing task switching just between browser and Apple Maps and back on an iPad because the browser reloaded. Non-issue with Note series with 2GB and 3GB DRAM on the newer devices.
- It's wishful thinking but no stylus including Jot Pro can compare to the Note's Wacom pen and there's no way to stow inside so it's bound to get lost.
- If you're concerned about performance check out the Note 10.1 2014 LTE with Snapdragon 800 which is what I'm waiting for along with 12.2" to arrive in the US.
Forget about the iPad. I've used both and it's a POS.

That's exactly why I left ipad and ios. There still doesn't seem to be a good stylus option with PM rejection that is even close to spen.
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It depends.. I never used notability with my Palm in the air before. There are work around for it. The video quality aren't very good that's why the words are sketchy. I have also never lost work while switching apps. I'm lazy to elaborate more lol.. Anyone would wanna consider go try them and see for yourself. Try notability! Really a good app. See if you can name one in Android that is better than that by experience not by videos or others' POV. I can post the screen shot of lecturenotes/s note and annotation done by notability to see if writing is sketchy.
Other than these I think I like the function of the s pen and the multi window functions. Otherwise I would really chunk this device out of the window*just kidding*
Point is, you should ignore what everyone is saying including and do the comparison yourself.